I just bought a Fiio K1 USB dac/amp to use with my laptop, but I also read that it works with some smartphones via an OTG cable. So I hooked it up to my S6 with my OTG cable and it didn't work. Sometimes I would hear a weird static noise, but otherwise my music wouldn't come through any output while the K1 was plugged in. I then tried my same OTG cable and K1 with a friend's Verizon S6 and it worked flawlessly. Both of our phones are running Android 5.1.1. What's going on? Did Sprint butcher USB audio on the S6 with their custom ROM? I'm really disappointed.
If anyone has gotten USB dacs to work with their Sprint S6, was there anything special you had to do first?
first it was hml now this. I'll try it later tonight
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thank you for the usb audio idea. I tried it on my phone, my usb dac works fine on the sprint s6. im using hacker kernel, perhaps that makes the difference?
BTW, I had to update the firmware of my usb dac so that it can work with android phones.
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thank you for the usb audio idea. I tried it on my phone, my usb dac works fine on the sprint s6. im using hacker kernel, perhaps that makes the difference?
BTW, I had to update the firmware of my usb dac so that it can work with android phones.
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I would assume it works for you because you are running a different kernel. I can't know for sure though until someone other people can chime in. Thanks. I would go a custom kernel route but I got out of the rooting/modding scene a while ago.
After upgrading to Marshmallow, this still doesn't work.
Have you used OTG Troubleshooter to see if your OTG is working correctly? Also try using Onkyo HF player and USB Audio Player Pro. A lot of phones that don't natively support USB audio will work through those apps.
Getting the same here... A bit of occasional "digital static" (like old cell phones near a speaker) when I start a track, but that's about it. Often the progress indicator won't even start on a track. However, "Neutron Audio" does show that there's specifically a Fiio K1 connected, and Android (7.1.1 CM14.1 based on hsbadr's Note4 builds) did prompt me to allow Neutron access to this audio device.
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Does the stock kernel support USB audio out?
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I would also like to know if USB audio out works, wanting to do a 2013 Nexus 7 car install
No, it does not. One of the first things I did was to connect my DAC through a OTG cable and it does not work. DAC works perfect with my HTC One.
Thank you, guess we will have to wait for kernel support
Thank you for confirming this. I want to do a car install with it in the future as well. I guess the Sero Pro is an option as well.
Any people already try the 2013 Nexus 7 can use the usb audio???
I recently purchased a USB DAC/amplifier combo to use with my high end IEMs on the go, as well as my sennheiser HD650s at home. They sound/work great with my nexus 7 (cyanogen mod 4.3) with just the stock kernel (faux's kernel works also)
However, i cannot find a kernel for my trust old Gnex (gonna use as a mobile digital audio soruce, the amp dac/amp is tiiiiiinnny but the tablet is so big its just not portable, and my Moto X doesnt support USB audio and has no custom kernels, for the first time I am wishing i had gotten an s4 as even the stock kernel supports USB audio.
So far i have tried: Faux123,
Franco.Kernel,
Glados 2.3 (downgraded to 4.2.2 just to try, and even after loading the modules, nothing..)
and finally stock CM.
None of these even came close to seeming it was registering at the least, much less delivering auditory bliss.
If i need to compile my own kernel and just add in USB audio support, I would love to learn,
ideally though, I would just love to find a kernel that meets my need, rather than having to create one.
Thanks in advance,
J.P.
First off, HD650s rock. Nice choice. Also what DAC/amp?
Anyways.
I somehow recall something about how the kernel version the GNex is on (as opposed to the 3.4 kernels a Nexus 7 totes) does not have any USB audio support. I might be wrong.
Android just rarely caters to the audiophiles, sadly.
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I add my question!
Me too try to use my Gnex with the Fiio E18, an USB DAC/AMP that seems to work with many Android device.
When I try to connect the DAC, it seems to be recognized (a red led becomes pink, wich means that the DAC is "connected" somehow), but no sound comes out.
So the question is: the problem is software or is also from the Gnex hardware?
On a thread on head-fi, James (a Fiio employee) says that is a hardware limitation...
But I know that the Gnex can work with pendrive and an OTG cable (I've got mine and it works!), so on the hardware side is this not enough?
And new Android KK 4.4: how it is regarding USB Audio?
Well I am extremely happy right now.
It turns out that with an OTG cable, my 4.4.2 RAZR M can suddenly output audio via USB to my Fiio E17 amplifier. I can finally ditch the 2G iPod touch I have been clinging to for years.
Awesome. Will test with a Droid 3 dock as well
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Well I am extremely happy right now.
It turns out that with an OTG cable, my 4.4.2 RAZR M can suddenly output audio via USB to my Fiio E17 amplifier. I can finally ditch the 2G iPod touch I have been clinging to for years.
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I am just starting to explore the possibilities of using my M for high quality audio. Does the above work without root, custom rom, etc.? I am not rooted and am bootloader locked and need to remain that way.
Are there any decent guides available on the net on this topic? I have been doing a lot of googling and trying to piece things together but haven't found a good consolidated source for information.
Thanks much.
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I am just starting to explore the possibilities of using my M for high quality audio. Does the above work without root, custom rom, etc.? I am not rooted and am bootloader locked and need to remain that way.
Are there any decent guides available on the net on this topic? I have been doing a lot of googling and trying to piece things together but haven't found a good consolidated source for information.
Thanks much.
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Worked before I even rooted, all stock. Just used and OTG cable and connected it to my DAC/AMP.
Is there a USB sound standard I should be looking for to find devices that work? Or does it work with any USB sound device?
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Is there a USB sound standard I should be looking for to find devices that work? Or does it work with any USB sound device?
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It's called 'class compliant' USB audio device.
If it works on Windows, Macintosh etc. without the need to install a device specific driver, it's probably class compliant.
Btw., the support for OTG connected class compliant USB DACs has been present in CM builds for Razr M/HD family since September 2013.
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It's called 'class compliant' USB audio device.
If it works on Windows, Macintosh etc. without the need to install a device specific driver, it's probably class compliant.
Btw., the support for OTG connected class compliant USB DACs has been present in CM builds for Razr M/HD family since September 2013.
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That is true, but seeing as I need Bluetooth in all its glory and some other things that never seemed to work right in CM11, I am glad to see it in a stock build
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It's called 'class compliant' USB audio device.
If it works on Windows, Macintosh etc. without the need to install a device specific driver, it's probably class compliant.
Btw., the support for OTG connected class compliant USB DACs has been present in CM builds for Razr M/HD family since September 2013.
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:good: Was able to pick up for a whopping $1.04 shipped, a USB audio dongle from eBay which works great, but needs external power.
Now if only I could get PodMode to work, I'd have a perfect 1-plug replacement for an old iPod.
Looking to output signal out of the phone into my USB DAC. It works with my current phone, quite well.
If I'm to buy this Find 7 I need to know that it will work first. Anybody have any experience with this?
If I remember correctly find7 doesn't support USB OTG at all. Someone can correct me if I remember wrong
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If I remember correctly find7 doesn't support USB OTG at all. Someone can correct me if I remember wrong
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The Find 7 supports OTG, but if it's supports a DAC, I don't know, I've only used for usb storage, keyboard and mouse.
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The Find 7 supports OTG, but if it's supports a DAC, I don't know, I've only used for usb storage, keyboard and mouse.
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My mistake. It was MHL then that was missing
I'll let you know if it works with my DAC, soon, as my phone is slated for delivery today.
MHL, what is that? Hi-rez video out to an external device?
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I'll let you know if it works with my DAC, soon, as my phone is slated for delivery today.
MHL, what is that? Hi-rez video out to an external device?
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Yup. Standard that allows HDMI output from usb port. I use it a lot with my tablet.
after working perfectly with 4.4 - my Fiio E17 DAC no longer works with my Tab S
from reading forums this seems quite a common complaint across Samsung users - including some Note 4 users (although bizarely some seem to have no issue)
I am not sure if it is a combination of the Tab S Exynos chipset + 5.02 + my specific DAC that has an issue - so has anyone with a Tab S and Lollipop got any USB DAC to work please ? I find the Headphone out rather poor (nowhere near as god sounding with my headphones as my Note 3) - but the screen class leading - so the combination of the Tab S + USB DAC was absolutely superb
I have read of one user using a E17 with a Sony device and Lollipop 5.02 - although can't verify it
I think Samsung had their own USB audio implementation before on 4.4 - which worked flawlessly for me - have they moved across to generic Android 5.02 implementation - and therefore could that be the issue (but doesn't explain why some non Samsung devices working ok) - OR has Samsung disabled their own USB audio but hasn't somehow implemented the 5.02 audio correctly?
hence I was wondering if anyone has managed to get USB Audio out of their Tab S please
USB audio works fine in USB Audio Pro tool - but you can only play local music content, 99.9% of my Tab S usage is with Spotify, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video etc etc
thanks for any help
LOVING Lollipop on Tab S otherwise so would be a shame to have to go back to 4.4 just for USB Audio
Bought an Oppo HA-2 and am having the same issues.
Sounds totally distorted using Player Pro, Poweramp, Samsung native music player, Spotify.
On Poweramp. the sound is distorted and the speed is super slow ie it gives the low demonic voice, like when slowing down a LP.
I don't want to have to load the Tab S with audio files and that only to use UAPP.
Fiio E18 here, works flawlessly with my Sony Z3 Compact.
On Tab S 10.5 LTE just gives slowmo playback and massive distortion..
I'm in the same boat. I used to use DACs with my Tab S 10.5 fine on the stock OS (4.4 I think), but when I upgraded to Lollipop it just hisses at me when I plug one in now. This is esspecialy annoying as I've just bought the Oppo HA-2 as well. I find this very odd since Lollipop is supposed to bring generic support for this to devices and yet it has stopped it working here. My wife has a Elephone P7000 (running Lollipop) and that works fine. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and a Galaxy Alpha (both running 4.4) and they work fine, butt if the Alpha (my main phone) gets an upgrade to Lillipop I will have to leave it now, as I need these two devices to work (they look so damn pretty together!).
Have you complained to Samsung about this? If so have you got a response? I think I will mention it to them now...
Im having problems as well...ive recently got a tab s 8.4...i upgraded to lollipop right out of the box...damn!
Anyway....my device is SMSL X-USB (XMOS based usb receiver). Works great with UAPP but not natively....no sound. On my Note 4 with lollipop 5.1.1 UAPP and native works great with it.
I want native to use RDIO, TUNEIN RADIO ETC....and then use UAPP for my hidef 96/24 flacs.
Im thinking of trying some custom roms but there are so many! Has anyone had any success with any of the custom roms?
Ok, I decided to change my entire Car Tablet install. Eliminate my Bluetooth head unit for a DAC and a DSP only to find issues. Both my Tab S 8.4 and S6 Edge will NOT WORK without using UAPP. But that's a music player. So no Android app sounds go through it. No YouTube, videos etc. Total fail with Samsung. I can test a HTC M8 just to try. Nexus 7 fresh from the 5.1.1 update doesn't work but I don't trust using my current DAC, since it's a 5.1 Surround Asus Xonar U5.
I've been trying to find DACs that work but haven't found much. I joined HeadFi and found some people that ditched the awesome Tab S for the downgraded Tab S2 because their USB SPDIF only DAC worked on the Tab S2.
I wouldn't mind downgrading to 4.4 to make DACs work, but will not get rid of my lovely screen, size, and install to go to a different tablet I dislike.
Like I stated I can't trust the Xonar, it's not a typical DAC. Unless someone can confirm it works with the Tab S on 4.4.
I know I'm not a 10.2 user but virtually the same devices, including the Tab Pro. So no need to make a new thread.
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So, Cheap USB DAC's are working fine on Samsungs with Android 5+. But the ones I've tried out that are capable of digital audio output don't work unless using UAAP. This is not Ok. Time to look for a CM10 Rom to install on my Tab S. This is a huge failure on Android 5. I don't think its just samsung because my Nexus 7 on 5.1.1 OEM (Maybe CyanogenMod 12 as I have not tried it yet) also does not work, as well as my HTC M9. Everything works if using UAAP, but thats just a Music Player, does not work with any other audio. I personally might end up trying a decent priced DAC with only Analog output. Since I can't hear the difference in quality in my car.
USB audio out and DACs
I had same problems with usab audio out on lollipop on tab s, nexus 7 and LG G3.
I eventually got Tab S T805 USB audio out to work after I flashed the AICP 5.1.1 rom. Worked perfectly.
Last week I flashed the AOSP Marshmallow ROM and USB audio out and this works perfectly too.
I am sending to an Audio GD DAC via an OTG adaptor.
Eventually got the G3 to work on lollipop by using a powered hub but this did not work for Tab S.
Buckster76 said:
after working perfectly with 4.4 - my Fiio E17 DAC no longer works with my Tab S
from reading forums this seems quite a common complaint across Samsung users - including some Note 4 users (although bizarely some seem to have no issue)
I am not sure if it is a combination of the Tab S Exynos chipset + 5.02 + my specific DAC that has an issue - so has anyone with a Tab S and Lollipop got any USB DAC to work please ? I find the Headphone out rather poor (nowhere near as god sounding with my headphones as my Note 3) - but the screen class leading - so the combination of the Tab S + USB DAC was absolutely superb
I have read of one user using a E17 with a Sony device and Lollipop 5.02 - although can't verify it
I think Samsung had their own USB audio implementation before on 4.4 - which worked flawlessly for me - have they moved across to generic Android 5.02 implementation - and therefore could that be the issue (but doesn't explain why some non Samsung devices working ok) - OR has Samsung disabled their own USB audio but hasn't somehow implemented the 5.02 audio correctly?
hence I was wondering if anyone has managed to get USB Audio out of their Tab S please
USB audio works fine in USB Audio Pro tool - but you can only play local music content, 99.9% of my Tab S usage is with Spotify, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video etc etc
thanks for any help
LOVING Lollipop on Tab S otherwise so would be a shame to have to go back to 4.4 just for USB Audio
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interestingly I get proper sound out of Neutron with their new "direct to USB" option
except then my Note 3 crashes
Neutron?
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It's a music player
Whilst talking about USB DACs - someone on another thread posted a work around for Note 3 and USB DACs and woks perfectly on my Note 3 but no go on Tab S
If you just want to play Music, try UApp. I'm completely against settling for JUST a music player. I want to play a movie and YouTube and everything.
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I totally agree as most of my usage is the likes of Spotify etc
The workaround for my Note 3 although adds a few steps allows you to use DAC for all apps but doesn't work for Tab S
Annoying as the headphone out from my Note 3 is very very good anyway but the output from my Tab S I find rather poor and the main reason I bought the DAC in the first place !
Yes. I'm hoping there is a fix on 6.0 because I am not ok with just music. My tablet is built into my car, with a optical DAC, and a Helix DSP.
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I can't comment on the fiio as I've only got the amp only E11k but I can say my turtle beach earforce 450 DAC seems to work fine on my tab s. No surround, obviously, but I do get sound.
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All analog DACs seem to work. It's the DACs that have an optical out that are having issues.
Might join in on the Android 6 pages to see if they can fix the Native drivers. Doubt Samsung really cares enough. Typical DACs are working, that's good enough for them.
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Well, guess the "Native" USB DAC 'crap' Google has implemented doesn't work worth a damn on 6.0 either. Soo odd how it works almost flawless across soo many platforms before Android 5, then they release "Native" drivers that cripple all worthwile DACs. It's like they are purposely preventing us from using better DACs than that was installed internally so we'd be forced to use the Wolfson.
And Apple devices have Optical built in. Lol
Anyway I'm on 6.0 now testing out my Asus Xonar. Same issues as before. Using UApp it works but since UApp is 'only' a music player it leaves all other audio routed through the tablet. Noticing one issue that's new, there is a click sound every couple seconds of music playback that wasn't there on 5.1.1.
Need to find me a pre 5.0 CyanogenMod Rom to run.
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what about trying your stock 5.0.2rom with another kernel? like ironkernel or skyhigh kernel.
i do(or want to) belive dac suport is a kernel issue
if already are on lollipop 5.0.2 i would try this before anything else
i am currently on 4.4.2 and was just about to update to 5.0.2, had read it has native dac suport lol.
just tought i would check if there was any issues first
becouse i do have some issues of my own with my cheepo 5$ ebay pcm2704 dac with optical out (everytime i coldstart my xenons or i bump my cable it gets disconnected/connected in an instant and then sound gets wierd kinda like an echo of sorts, and i have to close music player remove cable wait a bit plug in and all is fine. quite annoing and dangerus now in the wintertime when there are frequent xenon cold starts) was hoping 5.0.2 would solve this.
im in the same boat as many others, dac suport inside player does nothing for me, as im using the tab as gps/mediasenter
so from what im reading im gonna live with it or atleast until someone have tryed 5.0.2 with another kernel
Cmon be a guinnipig, your device doesnt work anyway nothing yo lose ;p
Name the kernel and Rom, I've been on them all. I'm a vivid tester. It's not a kernel issue. This "native" support, technically just removed drivers for some dedicated DACs. Leaving the others that have been tested and proved working for years... Yes years before "native", I know I've been using DACs in all my tablet car installs from cheapo eBay 1 dollar pos dacs to high end, removed. The app UApp has this specific driver built into the app itself.
However what your describing sounds like a wiring issue.
I even jumped on the Android 6 bandwagon. It's not working on OEM Samsung Android 6 that was just released in beta form.
The hifi forum has 790 pages of info. And page one a collab of info on what dacs work and how they work.
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indeed i had wirering issues, nothing was sheilded, resoldered otg with sheilded cables and grounded dac chassie to cable (at the same time made a y on the otg cable for simulcharge with 88kohm resistor) and behold all is as should. ( all but a clicking sound left so i guess my dsp needs the same treatment) thanks
no build with a fix thats just wierd, there are so many clever rom/kernel builders in here
guess we cant do nothing but hope for a fix then
thanks for testing and letting us know