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[Q] Is there a temporary files folder in android?

Some folder that you can clean once in a while to free internal memory?

each app has its own cache', try an app like cache mate (Paid) or cache cleaner (free), both are great chache' cleaners

Linux does not work like windows, you should not need to do this, it won't free too much space.
If you clean this cache out then use those apps again it won't take long for the cache to build right back up again.

Lennyuk said:
Linux does not work like windows, you should not need to do this, it won't free too much space.
If you clean this cache out then use those apps again it won't take long for the cache to build right back up again.
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OK, so you have any other suggestions for clearing some internal space?
except moving apps2sd 'cause i've done it?
I found a temp folder /data/drm/tmp that sometimes contains the .apk file after you already used them, someone know anything about that?

Lennyuk said:
Linux does not work like windows, you should not need to do this, it won't free too much space.
If you clean this cache out then use those apps again it won't take long for the cache to build right back up again.
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it will free up space on rarely used apps tho, and especialy the market cache can rob 2mb+ when downloading

Try moving Dalvik cache to sd if you want, but if you have 100mb free and your apps are already on the sd I really don't see what your worrying about 100mb is loads when its just being used by cache.

ilya.glants said:
OK, so you have any other suggestions for clearing some internal space?
except moving apps2sd 'cause i've done it?
I found a temp folder /data/drm/tmp that sometimes contains the .apk file after you already used them, someone know anything about that?
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thats the digital rights management folder dont delete nothing from there lol

AndroHero said:
thats the digital rights management folder dont delete nothing from there lol
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But it's the temp folder within it. I deleted two big .apk file that were there. I know it's just apps that I just installed, it had the full name of the .apks I used. And nothing went wrong ^^
BTW, How do I move delvik cache to sd? How much space does it take? Can it affect the apps performance?

ilya.glants said:
But it's the temp folder within it. I deleted two big .apk file that were there. I know it's just apps that I just installed, it had the full name of the .apks I used. And nothing went wrong ^^
BTW, How do I move delvik cache to sd? How much space does it take? Can it affect the apps performance?
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It can free up loads of space, and yes it can affect performance depending on your sd card.
But you missed the big point!
If you move apps2sd then Dalvik Cache to sd the only thing left in data will be the phones data which is tiny, so in effect you will be having over 100mb of wasted space in your phone. Why do you want this?

If I understand correctly then, moving delvik cache can seriously mess up the phone right?
I have now 85MB free on my phone, I think the more the better for phone performance =]

ilya.glants said:
I have now 85MB free on my phone, I think the more the better for phone performance =]
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Why do you think this?
First of all, the memory we are talking about here is being used for disk space, so having more available just means you have more disk space!
Secondly, having loads of free program memory (i.e. the memory used by running programs, as opposed to disk space) won't improve performance anyway. Since Android doesn't use swap, once it starts running low on program memory it will start killing off applications, and will endeavour to optimize memory usage on it's own.
Regards,
Dave

thanks for the info =]

[Q] Removing stock apps to save space?

I noticed some threads for different phones with regard to this but didn't see an answer for the EVO so I'll ask here.
I would like more space on my phone as I'm tired of seeing the little low space hard drive icon. I've already moved all the apps to SD via app2SD. I was thinking of installing the latest rooted stock Sprint ROM (3.70.651.1) and then deleting the stock apps that I do not use but I have read elsewhere that this will, in fact, not free up any more space for applications. Is this true?
If so, can I get a recommendation for the "most stock" ROM that's stripped of the Sprint added apps. If it has some ubiquitous and useful add-ons than that is OK
Thanks!

There's a couple of ROMs in the Dev section that are optimized for speed, and I'd recommend those. A lot of them have them already removed, but you can remove the ones that aren't

Thanks for the response... I apologize if I didn't state my question correctly. I understand that I can remove the apps that I want if I'm rooted, what I'm not sure about is if that space will be made available for other applications when I do remove the programs (in ROM) that I do not want.
Hope that clarifies the question.

Wayno-san said:
Thanks for the response... I apologize if I didn't state my question correctly. I understand that I can remove the apps that I want if I'm rooted, what I'm not sure about is if that space will be made available for other applications when I do remove the programs (in ROM) that I do not want.
Hope that clarifies the question.
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A small amount of space will be freed. If you move Dalvik Cache to the Cache partition this will free up a lot more space than removing apps.

leenypost said:
A small amount of space will be freed. If you move Dalvik Cache to the Cache partition this will free up a lot more space than removing apps.
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That sounds intriguing... can you point me to a "how-to" link or someplace where I can learn more about how to do this?

Wayno-san said:
That sounds intriguing... can you point me to a "how-to" link or someplace where I can learn more about how to do this?
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Search on XDA for "move dalvik to cache". There should be a zip file you can download that will do it for you.

Thanks again for the info. I did as you suggested and now have 266 MB left where before I had less than 50. Using ap2sd with Azrael ROM and do far have not run into any issues. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Note, however, that most of the stock apps are in your system partition. The free space you care about for installing apps is in the data partition. So removing them doesn't free up the space you care about. Even on ROMs that have removed them, I'm not sure if they actually do (or can) resize the partitions to give you the space where it counts (/data).
You can, however, move apps to the system partition if you want. I've done this with some of the updates to stock apps -- GMail, Qik, and Flash, for example. That's freed some space up.

bkrodgers said:
You can, however, move apps to the system partition if you want. I've done this with some of the updates to stock apps -- GMail, Qik, and Flash, for example. That's freed some space up.
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This sounds like it is worthwhile to learn how to do. Is there a thread or program that you could point me to for some guidance on how to do this?
I've also read that ap2sd can move programs that have not yet been modified to enable the regular android 2.2 "move to SD" function to work; but after flashing that app and using it to move the Dalvik cache I do see any obvious front-end for it.

Wayno-san said:
This sounds like it is worthwhile to learn how to do. Is there a thread or program that you could point me to for some guidance on how to do this?
I've also read that ap2sd can move programs that have not yet been modified to enable the regular android 2.2 "move to SD" function to work; but after flashing that app and using it to move the Dalvik cache I do see any obvious front-end for it.
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Basically you just move the APK file from /data/app to /system/app using ES File Explorer (need to enable root mode in prefs) or Root Explorer. Or you can do it with adb or even terminal emulator on the phone if you prefer. I think Titanium Backup Pro (the paid version) has an ability to do this too. You also want to look in /system/app and see if there's an older version under some other name that should be deleted. Titanium Pro may handle this part for you automatically as well. I haven't bought it yet, so I'm not sure (though I plan to, the free version is great and the paid version adds some nice things). I think you can still get updates from the market after you've done this, but the update will go to /data/app. You'd need to move it and delete the prior version again after receiving such an update.
I haven't enabled a2sd yet. My understanding is that it's not so much something you need a front end for. Once you set it up, that's just where your apps go. You don't move your apps to the sd card manually. I could be wrong. I used whatever form of a2sd was available for XDAndroid on my old Touch, but that's been a little while and the DarkStar A2SD that people use might be a little different than that method. I haven't done it at all yet on the evo.

Thank you sir, that's very good info and I'll give it a shot.

[Q] Manually transfer certain app to the sd-ext (ext3/4) ?

Just wondering is there any way to manually transfer certain app to the sd-ext (ext3/4).
Any hidden setting or tweak in S2E ?
I am using S2E but it moves all your applications to sd-ext and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.
I only want to move games,unimportant,less frequent used or non background applications to sd-ext.I think launchers and some other apps just run better or need to be in the internal memory for max performace and to minimize battery drain.
Is there any way to get around ?

if it is moving all your apps and you want to move certain apps back then you could use an app called system cleanup. its a really useful app,once its loaded its as simple as long pressing the desired app and choosing your option. titanium backup also does the same and has a batch mode. not sure if this is what your looking for or not?
edit: miss read your post,so i dont think this will move to sdext? but may come in useful
R.V.3 (MokeeOs)

slymobi said:
if it is moving all your apps and you want to move certain apps back then you could use an app called system cleanup. its a really useful app,once its loaded its as simple as long pressing the desired app and choosing your option. titanium backup also does the same and has a batch mode. not sure if this is what your looking for or not?
edit: miss read your post,so i dont think this will move to sdext? but may come in useful R.V.3 (MokeeOs)
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As far as i understand "system cleanup" will move certain apps to "/system".That is not what we did MTD partiton for.
The problem is when you install an app,S2E moves it to sd-ext(ext3/4) and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.I want to manually transfer the app either to"/sd-ext" or "/sdcard" or just keep it in internal memory(/system).
e.g. App A in system
App B in /sd-ext
App C in /sdcard

optimusodd said:
As far as i understand "system cleanup" will move certain apps to "/system".That is not what we did MTD partiton for.
The problem is when you install an app,S2E moves it to sd-ext(ext3/4) and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.I want to manually transfer the app either to"/sd-ext" or "/sdcard" or just keep it in internal memory(/system).
e.g. App A in system
App B in /sd-ext
App C in /sdcard
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Not sure if you confuse something? Apps on sd?
And yes, you're right: s2e doesn't let you pick individual apps - but... I believe that's a good idea thinking about performance (just my opinion, though).
Any time I have the feeling an app should be in internal I'd push it to system (usually i won't run out of space there as i strip a lot of bloat out). This makes even more sense to me than using two data partitions (what you would have when selectively moving apps to sd or vice versa).
All my user apps and dalvik-cache are on sdext (so there's no need for the OS to search and less possibility to struggle). I use custom mtd partitions, too, but the internal data partition isn't useless as there's still a lot of app data...
But like i said: just my opinion ymmv.
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)

eventcom said:
Not sure if you confuse something? Apps on sd?
And yes, you're right: s2e doesn't let you pick individual apps - but... I believe that's a good idea thinking about performance (just my opinion, though).
This makes even more sense to me than using two data partitions (what you would have when selectively moving apps to sd or vice versa)All my user apps and dalvik-cache are on sdext (so there's no need for the OS to search and less possibility to struggle).
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Nope,I am not confused.I want to manually move selected apps to
>Internal data partition
>SD-ext(ext3/4)
>SD Card(like APP2SD let you choose the apps you want to transfer to external storage)
In short,moving only select apps to the ext-3/4 partition.
The more system related stuff you move to the SD ext, the more information it needs to pull out from the SD Card.
As i said some critical apps need to be in the internal memory for stability and performance reasons while it's better to keep some heavy apps like Offline maps or Dictionaries to external memory (FAT32 partiton).
Any time I have the feeling an app should be in internal I'd push it to system (usually i won't run out of space there as i strip a lot of bloat out).
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I don't want to push apps to system as it's size is 140 MB and out of that 23 MB is free i.e you can't push more than 2-3 apps.And if you really want,you will have to change your MTD partiton again and again.
I use custom mtd partitions, too, but the internal data partition isn't useless as there's still a lot of app data.
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As S2E moves all your apps to sd-ext and don't let you choose whether you want to move or just keep in internal data partition.Whta's the use of internal memory and SD-Card meory.My internal data partition is 310 MB.I don't think the app data can fill even half of it.Moreover 512 MB of SD-ext will get filled very soon.Well,I don't care about running about of space as I can increase the size of ext partiton,I just want it to let me choose the apps that I want to move.
Any idea ?
Thanks

optimusodd said:
Nope,I am not confused.I want to manually move selected apps to
>Internal data partition
>SD-ext(ext3/4)
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I got that well but this one
optimusodd said:
>SD Card
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is not a good idea in my eyes (and from my experience).
FAT32 might be good to store some data (nothing db related or where apps are writing onto very often)
optimusodd said:
The more system related stuff you move to the SD ext, the more information it needs to pull out from the SD Card
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and that's where I think you are at least a bit wrong... an external partition (ext2,3 or 4) is treated just the same way like /data and /system. Of course it might be a bit slower than partitions on the internal drive (and have some faults or instabilities) but it's still a system partition while the FAT32 part of the SD card uses a different format (which will definitely affect performance).
I don't want to push apps to system as it's size is 140 MB and out of that 23 MB is free i.e you can't push more than 2-3 apps.And if you really want,you will have to change your MTD partiton again and again.
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nah, I don't think so - you just do it once and keep in mind that you want to push a few apps there (me for instance deletes a lot of stuff from the ROM, too... if I'm not mistaken that's more than I push back there)
As S2E moves all your apps to sd-ext and don't let you choose whether you want to move or just keep in internal data partition.Whta's the use of internal memory and SD-Card meory.My internal data partition is 310 MB.I don't think the app data can fill even half of it.
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My current stats (total/used in MB):
015/001 cache
300/249 data (= 83%)
960/368 ext
150/113 system
But I must confess that I didn't care to clean up my system recently...

Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire

Hazou said:
Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire
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I use the same link2sd and it works perfectly: it's easy to decide what applications to move to sd-ext or to keep into the internal memory.

stiven68 said:
I use the same link2sd and it works perfectly: it's easy to decide what applications to move to sd-ext or to keep into the internal memory.
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Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire
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Yep,link2sd can do the job but it could be better if S2E provides the same feature and let us choose the apps that we want to move.
Well,after a long forum research i have reached a conclusion that link2sd is way better than S2E.

eventcom said:
I got that well but this oneis not a good idea in my eyes (and from my experience).FAT32 might be good to store some data (nothing db related or where apps are writing onto very often)
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Yep,i did mean dictionary and maps.
And here comes link2sd to your rescue :
It also provides native apps2sd features on Android 2.2 and higher. It can move any non-protected user apps to SD card (force move), with batch moving capability.
me for instance deletes a lot of stuff from the ROM, too... if I'm not mistaken that's more than I push back there
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Did you use TB to remove bloatwares and other unnecessary stuff ?

optimusodd said:
Yep,i did mean dictionary and maps.
And here comes link2sd to your rescue :
It also provides native apps2sd features on Android 2.2 and higher. It can move any non-protected user apps to SD card (force move), with batch moving capability.
Did you use TB to remove bloatwares and other unnecessary stuff ?
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nah, most of the time manual edit. Best practice would be to do the testing by removing the apps one by one and if you're done delete them from the ROM zip and use this as your barebone (and remember which apps are safe to remove).
Btw there are a few good hints of Slymobi and me in the LeWa thread (regarding CM7) which could be seen as an update for the barebones entry in the cyanogenmod wiki.
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)

optimusodd said:
Yep,link2sd can do the job but it could be better if S2E provides the same feature and let us choose the apps that we want to move.
Well,after a long forum research i have reached a conclusion that link2sd is way better than S2E.
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I dont think link2sd is way better. The just do 2 different things.
Link2sd lets u manually push or pull apps to ext. So after each new app install u need to push the app again. It is only useful when u only want a couple of ur apps to ext. It works nice if u dont want to have every app on ext.
S2E will transfer all apps, data and / or dalvik to ext. So u always have enough internal memory. This works especially well when u transfer the apps to ext, but the data not.
They are both very goods apps. U cant compare them to each other, i think. It is just what u want at that moment

eventcom said:
nah, most of the time manual edit. Best practice would be to do the testing by removing the apps one by one and if you're done delete them from the ROM zip and use this as your barebone (and remember which apps are safe to remove).
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I have never tried barebone install lol.Have you tried one ?I use TB to remove them.Using terminal emulator is another option.
there are a few good hints of Slymobi and me in the LeWa thread (regarding CM7) which could be seen as an update for the barebones entry in the cyanogenmod wiki.Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)
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Can you share the link of your post ?

Hazou said:
Link2sd lets u manually push or pull apps to ext. So after each new app install u need to push the app again. It is only useful when u only want a couple of ur apps to ext. It works nice if u dont want to have every app on ext.
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It's possible to set link2sd to automatically move every new app to sd-ext just after the installation and then manually move back to the internal memory if necessary.

stiven68 said:
It's possible to set link2sd to automatically move every new app to sd-ext just after the installation and then manually move back to the internal memory if necessary.
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Yep i know ,
But then i dont see the point of using it, because s2e is already build into CM sort of (just need to download the interface). And with link2sd u get a massive script thats needs to be loaded. Not that it will slow down the device very much.
And with my device, link2sd sometimes wont load all the apps. But that is my experience.
Hazou

Hazou said:
Yep i know ,But then i dont see the point of using it, because s2e is already build into CM sort of (just need to download the interface). And with link2sd u get a massive script thats needs to be loaded. Not that it will slow down the device very much.
And with my device, link2sd sometimes wont load all the apps. But that is my experience.
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Here is why link2sd is better and we want to use it :
>It let us choose the apps we want to move.
>I don't want to move launchers and some other apps due to stability reasons.
>S2E moves and regenrates too much of a cache.
>S2E works only for CM roms
>link2sd provides better control
>some users have reported the issue that after sometime the apps starts to disappear in S2E.
>S2E doesn't work with Titanium Backup properly.
>S2E creates problems during Nandroid backup.I approve that.
>S2E only supports ext3/ext4
>In worst case scenario (card crash) you are gonna bang your head on the wall as it moves everything to sd ext partition.
>In S2E you can't use any application while your card is mounted as a removable disk on your PC.
Other features of link2sd :
Features:
- Create and remove link for apk, dex and lib files of the applications you select
- Automatically link newly installed apps
- Move any user apps to SD even though the app does not support moving to SD (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Shows the apps that support moving to SD with native apps2sd (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Set the default install location of the apps; auto, internal, or external (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Batch link, unlink, reinstall, uninstall, "move to SD", "move to phone" functions (multi-select mode)
- Uninstall system applications
- Freeze and un-freeze system and users applications
- Convert system apps into user apps
- Convert user apps into system apps
- Integrate "Updated" system apps into system (ROM)
- Clear data and cache of the application
- Clear all apps cache at once (1-tap cache cleaner without being root)
- List applications, show detailed size information and link status
- Sort and filter applications
- Search applications by name
- Display available space information of internal storage, SD card and SD card 2nd partition
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Guess enough reasons to go with link2sd:silly:

optimusodd said:
Here is why link2sd is better and we want to use it :
>It let us choose the apps we want to move.
>I don't want to move launchers and some other apps due to stability reasons.
>S2E moves and regenrates too much of a cache.
>S2E works only for CM roms
>link2sd provides better control
>some users have reported the issue that after sometime the apps starts to disappear in S2E.
>S2E doesn't work with Titanium Backup properly.
>S2E creates problems during Nandroid backup.I approve that.
>S2E only supports ext3/ext4
>In worst case scenario (card crash) you are gonna bang your head on the wall as it moves everything to sd ext partition.
>In S2E you can't use any application while your card is mounted as a removable disk on your PC
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nothing wrong using link2sd - everybody has a different setup and different priorities. So just to tell you a different point of view: In my opinion moving apps from the stable and fast internal storage to an external partition is not a good solution at all - but if you aren't satisfied with installing just a hand full of user apps this is the only way to go. In opposite to your opinion i believe (and have the experience) that spreading the user apps onto two partitions (plus the system apps on the system partition) definitely is not more stable than just moving all apps in one place. To me this makes sense as the system needs more information about the app (where to find). It's like having two /data/app directories... I'm pretty much satisfied with my setup (s2e) and didn't have any major issues for one and a half year. I can't confirm any issues regarding cache or "lost apps". The only thing i experienced twice was the system forgot about the ext partition (which could happen with every other solution, too, afaik and hasn't been much trouble to solve).
Furthermore i really believe that the best place for the important stuff, like launcher and file manager, is in /system/app ...
But again: nothing wrong with different prefs...
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)

[Q] Cannot Install Any Apps At All Even With Free Memory

I've been removing some bloatware on my phone with root explorer (because this is the only method that works since I need to mount r/w on the veondor folder), it's been working great and it's much faster now. Suddenly whenever I try to install from the market or an APK it now says I have insufficient storage available when I have 59mb of memory left on my system and plenty of GB on my SD card. I can still update apps through the market perfectly fine but nothing else works.
Things I removed...
From .../System/App
-Officesuite.apk
-talkback.apk
From .../System/Vendor/App
-datatrafficswitch.apk
-semccrashmonitor.apk
-timescapespline,apk
-timescapewidget.apk
-widgetonoff.apk
-playnow.apk
-letsgolf.apk
I deleted these from looking at a guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614761
I am on firmware .587
I'm not sure if this was the cause because I have installed some firmware changing packs such as the nxt theme but ThillanaC and .587 Framework Deodexer by papayayoghurt.
If anyone can help it would really help, and I do have a nandroid backup from before all this but I would prefer to know what caused this.

System space not the same as Data space.
CynicBound said:
I've been removing some bloatware on my phone with root explorer (because this is the only method that works since I need to mount r/w on the veondor folder), it's been working great and it's much faster now. Suddenly whenever I try to install from the market or an APK it now says I have insufficient storage available when I have 59mb of memory left on my system and plenty of GB on my SD card. I can still update apps through the market perfectly fine but nothing else works.
Things I removed...
From .../System/App
-Officesuite.apk
-talkback.apk
From .../System/Vendor/App
-datatrafficswitch.apk
-semccrashmonitor.apk
-timescapespline,apk
-timescapewidget.apk
-widgetonoff.apk
-playnow.apk
-letsgolf.apk
I deleted these from looking at a guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614761
I am on firmware .587
I'm not sure if this was the cause because I have installed some firmware changing packs such as the nxt theme but ThillanaC and .587 Framework Deodexer by papayayoghurt.
If anyone can help it would really help, and I do have a nandroid backup from before all this but I would prefer to know what caused this.
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The applications you deleted resided in the System partition of your internal memory but the new ones you want to install require space on the Data partition. So unless you can use an application like SystemCleanup to move some old apps to the System partition you still won't be able to free up space in the Data partition.

I've had apps fail to install when I've had as much as 60MB free. It really does suck - Sony just didn't give us enough space for apps. Either move some apps to your SD card or install Link2SD and kiss this problem goodbye forever. There is a great guide here:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/
It's well worth doing and doesn't take very long at all.

The applications you deleted resided in the System partition of your internal memory but the new ones you want to install require space on the Data partition. So unless you can use an application like SystemCleanup to move some old apps to the System partition you still won't be able to free up space in the Data partition.
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Works perfectly! Thanks a lot!

can i delete apps from stock rom to save space?

i guys, i have a Stock Room GN2 GT-N7100-Ver. 4.1.2-Ver. Base Band N7100ublh2. is ROOTED, and i install the titanium backup app. and a i realized that from this app. i cant delete apps from the play store (guess more than one kno this:silly, so i want to know , if i can delete apps or packages fron my stock room if so, what apps or packages can i delete from the stock rom with out having problems with the divice?
thanks in advance for ur support.

vrgolin said:
i guys, i have a Stock Room GN2 GT-N7100-Ver. 4.1.2-Ver. Base Band N7100ublh2. is ROOTED, and i install the titanium backup app. and a i realized that from this app. i cant delete apps from the play store (guess more than one kno this:silly, so i want to know , if i can delete apps or packages fron my stock room if so, what apps or packages can i delete from the stock rom with out having problems with the divice?
thanks in advance for ur support.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32151346&postcount=1

yes read above thread for which application is safe to remove, but as per title of thread
if you are doing this to make space then note, these applications stores in System ROM and making free space on system ROM, you can not use that space to replace other user application.
many ppl removing this (bloatware) to enhance performance by preventing them to run in background, though it is also debate whether really how much this help. b''coz android itself have some function to keep process running in background to recall it fast. so if you remove bloatware, that will be replaced by other application till android feel RAM if full, and same time android will autokill background process to make more free space available.

Since your device is root, use Directory Bind to put big data from internal to SD. For instance, i use it for Wild Blood, saving up to 2Gb of internal space. The game take only a longer time to launch.
Instead of deleting apps and risking seeing my device brick, i use the Android 4.1 freeze option, i think it's safer to use it, you can't freeze needed system apps.
Deleting apps is not as useful as doing it with other phones since there is around 780Mb of free system space. To free internal memory, with Titanium you can move apps from internal to system.
If you use Instagram a lot, move Instagram pictures from /storage/sdcard0/Pictures to sd card. Setup the camera to write to SD card.

Ofcourse you can use this space? What prevents you from making regular user apps to system apps?
I would suggest freezing apps first with Titanium, then after several days, if nothing happens, you can remove them. I used to do this all the time on my DHD and do it for a few apps on my N7.