I'm happy to be a a member of the forum and I'm new here.I own a kindle fire hdx 8.9,but I don't know whether there is a cm11 rom for it.Because I didn't see the word ‘hdx’.And what is the meaning of 'Kindle Fire 2‘？I hope someone can answer my questions.
Kindle Fire first gen
Kindle Fire 2nd gen (HD)
Kindle fire 3rd gen (HDX)
To complicate things a bit more, the 7" version of the first gen 7" Fire was re-released in 2012 with slightly upgraded HW and a new OS, this is called the Kindle Fire 2. The 7" version of the 2nd gen HD was re-released last year as a model that lacks a front camera, this is known as Kindle Fire HD 7" (2013). The 8.9" HD model remains the same. These variants are shown on the respective Wikipedia pages.
As far as I understand it, both 3rd gen HDX models and the 2013 version of the HD 7" suffer from the lack of an exploit that will allow the bootloader to be subverted, meaning that they're locked-down and you can't install a custom ROM. There is an exploit that will allow root on the KFHD7(2013), and there are methods to get root on HDX models that haven't been updated to the latest firmware, see the relevant forum. Once rooted, you can get the Play Store running and some Google services and apps. But if your HDX has already succumbed to the OTA update that started to go out a few weeks ago you're out of luck at present.
The only model that Amazon currently sells which can be turned into a proper Android tablet is the older Fire HD 8.9".
[Actually, it seems that you can still find the upgraded first-gen Fire for sale on Amazon if you follow the link on the Wikipedia entry, but Amazon doesn't advertise it.]
charlesky said:
Kindle Fire first gen
Kindle Fire 2nd gen (HD)
Kindle fire 3rd gen (HDX)
To complicate things a bit more, the 7" version of the first gen 7" Fire was re-released in 2012 with slightly upgraded HW and a new OS, this is called the Kindle Fire 2. The 7" version of the 2nd gen HD was re-released last year as a model that lacks a front camera, this is known as Kindle Fire HD 7" (2013). The 8.9" HD model remains the same. These variants are shown on the respective Wikipedia pages.
As far as I understand it, both 3rd gen HDX models and the 2013 version of the HD 7" suffer from the lack of an exploit that will allow the bootloader to be subverted, meaning that they're locked-down and you can't install a custom ROM. There is an exploit that will allow root on the KFHD7(2013), and there are methods to get root on HDX models that haven't been updated to the latest firmware, see the relevant forum. Once rooted, you can get the Play Store running and some Google services and apps. But if your HDX has already succumbed to the OTA update that started to go out a few weeks ago you're out of luck at present.
The only model that Amazon currently sells which can be turned into a proper Android tablet is the older Fire HD 8.9".
[Actually, it seems that you can still find the upgraded first-gen Fire for sale on Amazon if you follow the link on the Wikipedia entry, but Amazon doesn't advertise it.]
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I didn't notice the 'Kindle' until the second generation,so the question looks a little stupid.But you were so patient.Thank you very much.It's really a very detailed answer.But I still wonder if there is any possibility of getting the device unlocked and installing a custom ROM?
scuwudi said:
I didn't notice the 'Kindle' until the second generation,so the question looks a little stupid.But you were so patient.Thank you very much.It's really a very detailed answer.But I still wonder if there is any possibility of getting the device unlocked and installing a custom ROM?
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only if a dev comes along and get lucky and finds some code he can exploit but it is unknown when or if it will even be cracked so don't get your hopes too high.
stunts513 said:
only if a dev comes along and get lucky and finds some code he can exploit but it is unknown when or if it will even be cracked so don't get your hopes too high.
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I got it.Thank you so much.:laugh:
Hi! I would like to know some of your thoughts on Amazon's Android market. Is it dead? Is anyone planning to buy the new Fire HD? What are your thoughts. Will beloved independent developers step up to get ROM's working on the Fire Phone and the coming Fire HD tablets? I personally do not have a Fire Phone. I have only had the original kindle fire 1 and original kindle fire 2, but I am planning on buying the new Fire HD 7". Anyone else excited about the new device line? It seems the original Kindle Fire was the biggest success. Thanks! Looking forward to your honest answers.
actually I'm interested to get this phone.. but it's not officially available on my country, so I have to make another decision
Grand_Goblin said:
actually I'm interested to get this phone.. but it's not officially available on my country, so I have to make another decision
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Ah. That's too bad
I think Amazon Appstore is certainly NOT dying. Otherwise, it's expanding and now with Amazon's introduction of Fire phone it will continue to do so. Amazon Appstore, together with Google, is the leader in this field.
My mother in law just picked up a second generation Fire TV Stick and was asking me if it's rootable. She said she knows someone who rooted their 1st generation and had a bunch of stuff sideloaded onto it, but from what I have researched online, the second generation is not yet rootable at this time...
Anyone know for sure? I have never dealt with one of these before, I am only familiar with ROKU.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Hello everybody,
I probably have a stupid question, but how do I know which stick generation to buy from amazon now? Is it mantis or bueller? Is that Generation 2 or 3? I don't get it... Amazon doesn't list any informations about device names.
Thx in advance
koboltzz said:
Hello everybody,
I probably have a stupid question, but how do I know which stick generation to buy from amazon now? Is it mantis or bueller? Is that Generation 2 or 3? I don't get it... Amazon doesn't list any informations about device names.
Thx in advance
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Connect with adb, type adb shell and watch out for the name
Stick names from first gen to last, montoya, tank, mantis
First gen box is bueller, 4k second gen is sloane.
The 4k stick currently sold is mantis, the third gen.
the non 4k is the second gen tank
Sus_i said:
Connect with adb, type adb shell and watch out for the name
Stick names from first gen to last, montoya, tank, mantis
First gen box is bueller, 4k second gen is sloane.
The 4k stick currently sold is mantis, the third gen.
the non 4k is the second gen tank
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Thx for your answer
I know how to do that after I bought the device, I meant how to find out what the devices are named before buying them from Amazon.
At that moment Amazon lists a normal Fire TV Stick, a Fire TV Stick 4K and a Fire TV Cube. Mantis is which one?
koboltzz said:
Thx for your answer
I know how to do that after I bought the device, I meant how to find out what the devices are named before buying them from Amazon.
At that moment Amazon lists a normal Fire TV Stick, a Fire TV Stick 4K and a Fire TV Cube. Mantis is which one?
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As I said earlier, mantis is the third generation FireTVstick, i.e. the current 4k stick.
That 'normal' stick is the second gen stick, called 'tank', i.e. the current Fire TV Stick without 4k.
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As I said earlier, mantis is the third generation FireTVstick, i.e. the current 4k stick.
That 'normal' stick is the second gen stick, called 'tank', i.e. the current Fire TV Stick without 4k.
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I thank you again, but you must forgive me. I didn't expect Amazon to offer different generations at the same time. With the fire tablets, only one generation is offered at the same time and next year, when the Fire 7 FullHD comes out, the old one disappears from the shop overnight. So I thought that there are two current fire sticks, a FullHD and a 4K variant and not that the first one would be the old one. There are still a lot of FullHD TVs out there.
koboltzz said:
So I thought that there are two current fire sticks, a FullHD and a 4K variant and not that the first one would be the old one. There are still a lot of FullHD TVs out there.
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Yeah, they sell different stick versions... as of today the second and third generation.
There are two second Gen Stick versions out (stick without 4k), one with and one without alexa (I think the one without alexa is called international version), but both are 'tank' devices.
If you wan't the newest stick, go for the 4k fireTVStick, called mantis.
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Yeah, they sell different stick versions... as of today the second and third generation.
There are two second Gen Stick versions out (stick without 4k), one with and one without alexa (I think the one without alexa is called international version), but both are 'tank' devices.
If you wan't the newest stick, go for the 4k fireTVStick, called mantis.
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But per OP, no way to identify the model Amazon will actually ship you I assume.
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But per OP, no way to identify the model Amazon will actually ship you I assume.
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Nope Of course you can identify the Stick model, i.e. decide which variant you buy...
like I said, only the new stick is 4k capable (QFHD), you see this in the amz. offer and ofcourse that stick is a bit more expensive than the older FullHD variant.
For identify the older FullHD stick, the 'basic' or 'international' version is imho the variant without alexa... slightly cheaper than the normal FullHD fireStick with alexa (and a better remote).
I want to get the mantis fire tv to root. But while looking on Ebay I see 2 different boxes of the same 2nd generation fire tv is there a way for me to know which one is mantis before I actually open the box so I can buy the proper fire tv?