[Q] Gaming Edition or Base Fire TV? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I want top get an Amazon Fire TV Gaming, but the price jump just for the controller made me balk just a bit, would it be better to just get the $99 dollar version and pickup a cheap third party controller?

shiz0id said:
I want top get an Amazon Fire TV Gaming, but the price jump just for the controller made me balk just a bit, would it be better to just get the $99 dollar version and pickup a cheap third party controller?
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The Amazon Controller will probably work better than most other controllers. However, there are quite a few that work fine. I use a Gamestop Red Samurai (bluetooth) and it works great. It was $7 when I bought it from Gamestop. Don't know if they went up on the price since I bought mine. I think there is also a thread that talks about best controllers for the Fire TV also.

If you are looking for a compatible controller I have a working & non working list here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267

I don't know how the new Amazon Game Controller is, but I got the first-gen edition and the D-Pad is stiff as a rock. If you plan on playing any fighting games, I wouldn't recommend getting the older controller. Otherwise, it works great if you only play games that use the analog sticks.

sneezing_corgi said:
I don't know how the new Amazon Game Controller is, but I got the first-gen edition and the D-Pad is stiff as a rock. If you plan on playing any fighting games, I wouldn't recommend getting the older controller. Otherwise, it works great if you only play games that use the analog sticks.
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I just got the rockcandy xbox 360 controller (wired) in asorted colors & works great, dpad & sticks superloose & feels great In your hands.
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deanr1977 said:
If you are looking for a compatible controller I have a working & non working list here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267
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Icontrolpad and other controllers

I'm looking to gamify my Note as much as possible. Thanks to Coldfustion's great video series on the Note, I've got an Rii Bluetooth mini-keyboard on order.
I'm also considering getting the iControlPad, hoping that it can attach to the Note securely. I want to get my Note in the same league as the Play/Vita and other portable gaming devices.
What hardware accessories are you guys using?
I have two Phonejoy's, a ZeeMote, and use PS3 remotes with mine. Not sure how the iControlPad will go with the Note's size - I see Gametel has a similar design out now too that looks like it'll fit a wider range of handset sizes. I have a few YT vids showing these sorts of things (mostly with an SGSII, but same stuff all works with the Note too).
I have the iControlPad, but its gathering dust. Let me know of some games you want to test and I'll see if I can get it working with it, as long as I don't have to buy it.
I had the Pandora console and I can tell you its better playing classic games on it than any Android devices.
The Note is the first phone I felt its actually bearable to play using onscreen controls.
I just got my Phonejoy analogue controller today, and it's great. The only thing I don't really like about it is it isn't true to term analogue, but the feel is enough for it to be overlooked. All in all a fantastic thing.
Might I point out that while not being as small and have a bracket of sorts as the iControlPad does, it's much cheaper for a genuine controller feel.
I did see the Gametel device online a couple days ago, which in turn led me to the icontrolpad... these are more inline with what I'm looking for at first: a controller that attaches and holds the Note.
Like I said, I'm just getting into the gaming side, and I haven't yet rooted my Note. Here's some games I have that I'd like to use with an icontrolpad or gametel clamp-on type controller:
Shadowgun
Samurai II
GTA III
Asphalt 6HD
Order and Chaos
Pacman
After I root and install the emulators, I'll be checking out Zelda and several Atari games. Maybe FPSe and Final Fantasy games.
I'm also all ears for any other HD MMO's (Chaos Rings supposedly is coming to Android soon)...
P.S. ... Looking to sell your icontrolpad? I'm interested in buying, provided it holds the Note and works with most of the games above?
I picked up some PS3 controllers and they are awesome. The prices fluctuate so much on Amazon but I managed to get the kit with the controller, HDMI and USB cable for $33 but I see it is back at $60.
I wish there was a clamp to attach the note to the ps3 controller for when I am not attached to the TV. Kind of like these old controllers with lcds in them.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000078D1V?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1
I can tell you that unless the game itself let you set hard keys or has inate support of hard keys then iControlPad will be useless with it. Since the iControlPad emulates the keyboard and most games relies on touch besides emulators. And not all emulators support iControlPad either, however there seems to be big support of WiiMote and PS3.
I will try some of those games when I have time.
I do notice I can connect a mouse by wire to Note and gets a mouse cursor.
I meant to reply last nite, but I got distracted with "testing" the games that might be compatible, heheh.
Turns out that most of the modern games I have don't have the option to use external controls. The emulator games, however, do, at least the Atari games I've tried so far. I will be trying out the N64 and other emulators, so those may be compatible.
My main question remains, though. Can the icontrolpad accommodate the Note?
The next question, then, is for everyone else who uses gaming accessories with the Note: are there plenty of decent games which justify using the an external controller? I know NZtech demo'd Super Mario, and Confustion demo'd a few good ones as well....
Perhaps a single gaming accessory is enough (the Rii miniBt) since it does double duty...
I have a gametel pad which i'll be reviewing in the next couple of days, it supports more games than it says it does which is nice.
psionic11 said:
I meant to reply last nite, but I got distracted with "testing" the games that might be compatible, heheh.
Turns out that most of the modern games I have don't have the option to use external controls. The emulator games, however, do, at least the Atari games I've tried so far. I will be trying out the N64 and other emulators, so those may be compatible.
My main question remains, though. Can the icontrolpad accommodate the Note?
The next question, then, is for everyone else who uses gaming accessories with the Note: are there plenty of decent games which justify using the an external controller? I know NZtech demo'd Super Mario, and Confustion demo'd a few good ones as well....
Perhaps a single gaming accessory is enough (the Rii miniBt) since it does double duty...
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Can't with the sixaxis controller app you can emulate the screen.
rootzwiki.com/topic/12032-tutorial-use-a-sixaxis-with-gta-iii/
le3ky said:
I have a gametel pad which i'll be reviewing in the next couple of days, it supports more games than it says it does which is nice.
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Yes please do I'm debating if I should or shouldn't. Is it too small for the phone?
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Hey guys, I'm a bit late to the party, but I just discovered the Onlive App that lets you play console-quality games online!
Do the various controllers mentioned in this thread (icontrolpad, gametel, phoneboy, sixaxis) work normally via this app? If so, that would be awesome...
Anyone get a chance to test the icontrolpad or gametel yet?
fosselman said:
I wish there was a clamp to attach the note to the ps3 controller for when I am not attached to the TV. Kind of like these old controllers with lcds in them.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000078D1V?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1
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A bit late to the party, but I thought I would pop in to say I'm working on a 3d-printable project that does exactly that. If all goes according to plan, you should be able to order one from a 3d-printing service for $30-50 (I hope!).
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Can't with the sixaxis controller app you can emulate the screen.
rootzwiki.com/topic/12032-tutorial-use-a-sixaxis-with-gta-iii/
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Well think about that for a moment.
A screen register is just a signal sent into the mainframe, sort of like a keystroke.
I think it can be emulated.
For instance, a rooted device with a modified Bluetooth stack and adjusted settings could be made to play well. Hitting X on a DS3 controller could register as a screen tap on 1024, 360 (X, Y coordinate) ... which would trigger the "Heavy Attack" command within the Samurai Vengence II App.
In fact, a screen tap would suffice well. Most games requiring movement/pov, have a virtual D-Pad and don't require any Swiping movement... a tap in the right direction triggers your desire. Android supports multiple screen taps, so hitting multiple gamepad buttons can trigger multiple "screen taps" virtually, so no problems!
And this can be fully mapped and navigated using such exploit. So you wont miss out on anything, all Apps can theoretically be navigated easily using a gamepad.
The only problem is: requires root, compatible bluetooth device, lots of time setting up the X,Y coordinates for each different app (or an ability to download/save them as profiles).
@ekin
An app to do precisely what you describe is apparently in the works from the icontrolpad team.
That said, I'm still hesitant to order the icontrolpad as it looks like the holder may not quite fit the Note. I'm also keen to hear if anyone's successfully used it yet (the holder, not the actual pairing/functionality).
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ever since i saw the gametel at CES i´ve been researching a lot
the gametel will not support the Note i´ve seen a video somewhere where they say the maximum phone size for gametel will be arout the galaxy nexus size.
The Icontrolpad seems to be better than the gametel controller´s, it supports analog buttons and it seems to have more developpment behind it (it´s an older deveice tough).
I just discovered the phonejoy which seems to be the better solution for me, i´ll probably invent/addapt some case around it so it can hold my s2, i can´t seem to find it for sale in europe though i know they ship it worldwide but i´d rather buy it here ...
can someone tell me the difference between phonejoy and the ps3 controller configuration/compatibility wise?
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I use my ps3 controllers with my sixaxis program and I sit roughly 12ft away from my tv. I just have the hdmi from the phone to the tv and leave it on my ent. center. All emulators work well with sixaxis. You can connect up to 4 controllers, I only have 2 but they work fine. No problems so far.
what about regular android games with the ps3 controller
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Any Good Bluetooth Game Controllers?

I don't own the phone yet but just checking out all the options for it (I am pretty excited to get it).
This phone seems awesome for gaming. I have seen a few HDMI mirroring videos that has got me really interested in getting a games controller for it.
I have seen you can use a wii controller but I don't really like them. I do like the idea of using a PS3 controller but the idea of paying for an app for this has put me off.
Games have started to get really good for Android (one of the reasons I am upgrading and getting this phone) but I haven't really seen any good controllers yet.
Does anyone here own a bluetooth android games controller and if so what make and is it any good?
I just use a ps3 controller, it works perfect for everything.
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Sorry, but the best bluetooth game controller for android is the PS3 controller. The app allows the controller to be used in any game. since it can also map the controller to the touch screen controls.
Anyone one that uses the Wii controller?
pinguy1982 said:
I don't own the phone yet but just checking out all the options for it (I am pretty excited to get it).
This phone seems awesome for gaming. I have seen a few HDMI mirroring videos that has got me really interested in getting a games controller for it.
I have seen you can use a wii controller but I don't really like them. I do like the idea of using a PS3 controller but the idea of paying for an app for this has put me off.
Games have started to get really good for Android (one of the reasons I am upgrading and getting this phone) but I haven't really seen any good controllers yet.
Does anyone here own a bluetooth android games controller and if so what make and is it any good?
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Great choice on phone, been lovin' mine for over a year now. And yeah, it is great for enjoying games on a large screen.
Hate to be the one to break this to ya, but if the game(s) that you are wanting to play do not have gamepad support built in you will be needing that app anyway. Even with those 'Android controllers'. In games without native support you will have to have a way to map the button presses to the touch screen equivalent. I would think that there is probably a really hard way to do that without the SixAxis app from the Play Store (or maybe there is a free app somewhere?), but, at only being 2 bucks it's a fast, easy, and really good way out. I've tried the 360 controller, the Wii, and a few others. None compare to the PS3 + SixAxis IMHO.

Moga Controller worth it?

Im thinking about buying this controller to play emulator games on my phone. Just wondering if its worth it or is there something better out there? The only thing is missing is the bumpers how would that affect in playing a psx emulator? Does anyone have this and can tell how good this thing is?.
http://www.powera.com/moga
http://www.amazon.com/MOGA-Mobile-Gaming-System-Android/dp/B0096L2SJ0
The idea of having the phone attached directly to the controller is cool. But for the money, you would be better off buying a wireless PS3 controller and connect your phone through bluetooth via this app. At least then you can still use the controller for a PS3 or PC if needed.
Additionally, you can buy this extremely affordable Suction Ball Stand to set your phone on a desk/surface when gaming.
I managed to grab one of the MOGAs when they did their free+shipping Christmas offer. It works well, but I haven't tried it on any emulators yet.
I like it, but it is a questionable value at the $50 price point.. Like the prior reply, a PS3 remote would probably be better, but I couldn't pass up the chance to grab the MOGA for $5.
Google SNES Controller Bluetooth" or similar and bang out an affordable hack!
If you play at more 3rd Gen+ HW like PS1 etc. Maybe not ideal.
It does give you +3 to Nerdery and +2 to OG Rep though.
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boricua10 said:
Im thinking about buying this controller to play emulator games on my phone. Just wondering if its worth it or is there something better out there? The only thing is missing is the bumpers how would that affect in playing a psx emulator? Does anyone have this and can tell how good this thing is?.
http://www.powera.com/moga
http://www.amazon.com/MOGA-Mobile-Gaming-System-Android/dp/B0096L2SJ0
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no support for any emulator or the games at this time but it is being worked on by the developers only games that will work with the moga game controller is the ones in the moga pivot app that syncs with the controller all other games are being coded by the developers to work with the moga, heres a list of games i have that work great
1.Asphalt 7<<<<apk
2.dead trigger
3.dungeon hunter<<<<apk
4.N.O.V.A. 3<<<<apk
5.pacman
6.sonic cd<<<apk
7.TDKR batman dark night rises<<<apk
all these games work great with the moga also via mini hdmi with my flat screen tv also there still other great games like grand theft auto & modern combat 4 wild blood and others soon to come that are being coded to work with the moga game controller also noted battery life not bad:good: i say great controller for on the go and for at home via hdmi with your galaxy S2, i got the moga when it frist came out and still works great.
caught this on engadget today. http://impulsecontroller.com/ Might be something to consider depending on what you're looking for
I was able to grab up a MOGA when they were giving them away, and I have both the official and the unofficial driver app (for emulators) on both my GS2 and Nexus 7 and I have to say that the controller works pretty fantastic both for emulators and for official games. Overall it is a great product that seems well made and manufactures, it connects fast with no issues, and is responsive. It still has L and R shoulder Buttons just no "L2" or "R2" which im guessing is what people refer to as bumpers. One downside for me with the MOGA though, is when playing NES/SNES/PSX emulation most prefer to have a D-Pad rather than be forced to use an analog stick. The MOGA has two nice analog sticks, but I think the lack of a D-pad is a downside on this compact model. A full size MOGA (Edit: http://www.destructoid.com/ces-full-size-moga-pro-controller-announced-for-android-241931.phtml here it is.) which looks more like a PS3 controller is supposed to be released soon as well, so be sure to google that before making a final decision.
For the money though, I agree with a few posts above me. There are pros and cons to both controllers, but If you are using it for mostly emulator gaming, I'd spend the money on a PS3 controller and use that. It'll be more comfortable, have more buttons, and can be set up great for emulators. The moga also works well, don't get me wrong... it's very portable, flat and fits well with your tablet or phone wherever you stash it, but if you don't have to worry about the portability factor then I'd take the PS3 controller over the moga still any time.
Bottom line. It's a great product that does what it says, but I wouldn't have bought one for the price tag if I hadnt gotten it for free in the deal. I would've eventually went PS3 or waited for the full size moga to drop.
I have a Moga controller and its freaking awesome.. Honestly it is more responsive in games than the PS3 controller was.. Not to mention they have alot of games are are optimized for the controller. Also If you download the universal driver the controller will work in unsupported games also.. For example GTA 3 doesn't work with the Moga app, but when you run the universal driver it works great..
Has anybody tried this ion go pad? Would it be compatible with our phone?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004YC4NN0/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&m=A9VBWN1Q1U6E6
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would love to try if it were like $20
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[Q] Best 3rd party controller out-of-box

I have some games on my Fire TV I'd like to play, but need a game controller. I don't currently have any compatible controllers, so I thought I might as well buy the official one. However, it looks like both it and the Nyko pad are on back-order for around a month. Rather than wait, I'd like to get a decent third party controller, preferrably wireless. Can anyone say definitively which controller (other than the official one or Nyko) is the most functional out-of-box. FYI, my Fire TV is unrooted with current firmware, so anything requiring root is out.
Here are some of my current choices:
Microsoft Xbox 360 controller for Windows (included USB receiver)
Logitech F710, wireless USB receiver
Logitech F310, wired USB
The Xbox receiver supposedly supports up to 4 controllers. Would the Fire TV and any apps currently out support them? I'm partial to Logitech gear, but I read somewhere that on the Fire TV the F710 uses "xinput mode", emulating an Xbox controller. Does this mean it would work just as well as the Xbox or a close second? While I prefer wireless, I listed the F310 for the obvious benefit of not having to recharge or replace batteries. I don't play enough to where a cord would really bother me. If there are major caveats with the wireless ones, I might just get the F310.
Amazon controller would be best in my opinion for full compatibility. I have an ouya controller which works very well and waiting on the nyko play pad pro cause I picked it up cheap on amazon so I couldn't pass it up. If I prefer the nyko, I'll end up getting rid of the ouya one most likely or keep it to use with the other aftv.
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Amazon controller would be best in my opinion for full compatibility. I have an ouya controller which works very well and waiting on the nyko play pad pro cause I picked it up cheap on amazon so I couldn't pass it up. If I prefer the nyko, I'll end up getting rid of the ouya one most likely or keep it to use with the other aftv.
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Thanks for the input. I had assumed Amazon had best availability on the Fire Controller, but I found it on Best Buy's eBay Store. Supposedly will deliver by Jan 6-13. We'll see.
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Bluetooth/USB OTG Game Controller

Has anyone tried using a hardware game controller to the Asus Zenfone 2? Either via pairing with bluetooth or USB OTG.
What are your experiences? Do you have recommendations?
I plan to use it mainly on PPSSPP (damn, The 3rd Birthday is hard to play using touch controls) and maybe some Android action games, but PPSSPP is the main reason.
From what I've read, I can use the OEM PS3 controller using USB OTG, but that seems to require root, correct? But I would prefer the non-root solution, as I have no plan to root, not yet at least.
I'm using a SteelSeries bluetooth controller with emulators now and I've used an otg adaptor with an xbox 360 controller. Both worked just as well as any other fairly modern phone once you get the keybindings set up properly. Neither required root for me to use.
raynan said:
I'm using a SteelSeries bluetooth controller with emulators now and I've used an otg adaptor with an xbox 360 controller. Both worked just as well as any other fairly modern phone once you get the keybindings set up properly. Neither required root for me to use.
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Oh okay, thanks! I'll look into those.
Is this the one you're using?
Capataz said:
Oh okay, thanks! I'll look into those.
Is this the one you're using?
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That's exactly it. If you have "fat fingers" or large hands, it may be too small to use comfortably, but it works well and has a good amount of controls.
raynan said:
That's exactly it. If you have "fat fingers" or large hands, it may be too small to use comfortably, but it works well and has a good amount of controls.
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I just went for the sure-fire PS3 Controller + USB OTG. After I saw video reviews of these bluetooth controllers, I just knew they weren't for me.
I was about to give up on this until I read that root is only required for using bluetooth with the PS3 controller, USB OTG does not. I've tried it out and the controller works without a problem in PPSSPP as well as GTA3 for android.
I also read about those gamepad clips that could clip my phone on to the PS3 controller, I'll get one of those in the future.
Capataz said:
I also read about those gamepad clips that could clip my phone on to the PS3 controller, I'll get one of those in the future.
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I saw one in DataBlitz, forgot the price though.
mbolinao said:
I saw one in DataBlitz, forgot the price though.
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Ordered from Lazada already for 550php (710php including shipping). It has a 1 month shipping duration but that's better than buying a GameKlip for 1800php (ad I saw in Juantamabayan), which is a certified ripoff as the price is 2x the original selling price of a GameKlip.
In the gadget shops I've visited, they only sell the PS4 controller clips. I've tried them and they do not work with a PS3 controller, because of that goddamn touchpad in the PS4 controller.
I've seen workarounds and DIY clips online, but it just isn't worth the time and effort, let alone the potential damage a DIY rig might cause to my phone or PS3 controller.
Capataz said:
Ordered from Lazada already for 550php (710php including shipping). It has a 1 month shipping duration but that's better than buying a GameKlip for 1800php (ad I saw in Juantamabayan), which is a certified ripoff as the price is 2x the original selling price of a GameKlip.
In the gadget shops I've visited, they only sell the PS4 controller clips. I've tried them and they do not work with a PS3 controller, because of that goddamn touchpad in the PS4 controller.
I've seen workarounds and DIY clips online, but it just isn't worth the time and effort, let alone the potential damage a DIY rig might cause to my phone or PS3 controller.
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saw this one in the mall earlier, same one in DataBlitz. They both have for PS3 and PS4.
mbolinao said:
saw this one in the mall earlier, same one in DataBlitz. They both have for PS3 and PS4.
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Ah nice. What branch of DataBlitz did you find that? I took a look at DataBlitz in Cyberzone in Megamall a while ago but no dice.
Capataz said:
Ah nice. What branch of DataBlitz did you find that? I took a look at DataBlitz in Cyberzone in Megamall a while ago but no dice.
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alabang town center. you can find that too in any small over the counter stores (not those walk-in stores) that sells gaming and mobile stuff. like the tiange type, that's where i found this. DataBlitz may have the same price. if not, most probably just very little difference.
mbolinao said:
alabang town center. you can find that too in any small over the counter stores (not those walk-in stores) that sells gaming and mobile stuff. like the tiange type, that's where i found this. DataBlitz may have the same price. if not, most probably just very little difference.
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Ah gosh that's gonna be quite the commute. Manila boy here.
Anyway, I have one pre ordered from Lazada. I'll just wait for it. But man, that's really low priced. Seems like Cyberzone does not carry accessories for "old" things anymore, tsk.
I saw on one of the Facebook group for Asus Zenfone 2 Philippines, one of them is using iPega controller but according to some reviews on YouTube some function doesn't really work well but now I'm looking for a MOGA Controller to test, sadly there's not a single Moga controller I can find here in my location.
SenpaiCham said:
I saw on one of the Facebook group for Asus Zenfone 2 Philippines, one of them is using iPega controller but according to some reviews on YouTube some function doesn't really work well but now I'm looking for a MOGA Controller to test, sadly there's not a single Moga controller I can find here in my location.
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Have you tried Lazada?
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Have you tried Lazada?
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There's no Moga Pro / Moga Pro Poewr Controll on Lazada. That's why it's hard to find one specially in Bicol.
SenpaiCham said:
There's no Moga Pro / Moga Pro Poewr Controll on Lazada. That's why it's hard to find one specially in Bicol.
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Good luck on finding that controller. :good:
If all else fails, a Sony PS3 controller + USB OTG works like a charm. Its almost as if the controller is an OEM accessory to the ZF2.
Capataz said:
Good luck on finding that controller. :good:
If all else fails, a Sony PS3 controller + USB OTG works like a charm. Its almost as if the controller is an OEM accessory to the ZF2.
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PS4 Controller + GameKlip + Rooted Phone works well, but in some games my phones tends to restart itself when I press X or O button.
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PS4 Controller + GameKlip + Rooted Phone works well, but in some games my phones tends to restart itself when I press X or O button.
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Oh okay. I haven't really played anything outside of emulators so I haven't had any troubles with the PS3 controller + USB OTG setup.
What games were your playing when that happened?
Capataz said:
Oh okay. I haven't really played anything outside of emulators so I haven't had any troubles with the PS3 controller + USB OTG setup.
What games were your playing when that happened?
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Modern Combat 4
Modern Combat 5
N.O.V.A 3
Those games
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Modern Combat 4
Modern Combat 5
N.O.V.A 3
Those games
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Oh okay, I'll try to take a look if the same would happen to me.
Capataz said:
Has anyone tried using a hardware game controller to the Asus Zenfone 2? Either via pairing with bluetooth or USB OTG.
What are your experiences? Do you have recommendations?
I plan to use it mainly on PPSSPP (damn, The 3rd Birthday is hard to play using touch controls) and maybe some Android action games, but PPSSPP is the main reason.
From what I've read, I can use the OEM PS3 controller using USB OTG, but that seems to require root, correct? But I would prefer the non-root solution, as I have no plan to root, not yet at least.
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There is this thing called ipega PG-9025 which you can order from Lazada.

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