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Anyone else come from the Samsung Galaxy S6 to an LG G4

So I came from an s4 to a g3 as samsung was really bugging me then when I saw an s6 on eBay at 300 notes I thought why not. I must say I am very impressed overall. If you look at my history you will see I like trying as many new phones as possible because in my opinion a phone is something you use the most in your life and I like to know I own the best one don't judge me.
Curiosity got the better of me (yes I know what happened to the cat) and I got a black leather LG g3 on eBay for a good price.
Now having both phones right now and watching youtube phone reviews all the time ... pocket now, mkbhd, AA, EG and johnnnnnnn v from phone arena (annoying git) etc I expected that these phones would be similar in terms of competition but to me the LG G4 is just an ugly bigger g3 and still feels cheap even with leather and when I pick the s6 up it feels a lot more premium.
I really don't like samsung at all but have been forced to accept that the s6 is really good.
I maybe missing something in the g4 and really love the screen size but now the note 5 is out that feature is no longer a 1 up.
I would really love to hear everyone's opinion if they have owned both phones or swapped and the reasons.
Thanks

I haven't owned either phone but I've spent some time with both the S6+G3 in the past week (less tech savvy coworkers got them, had to show them the ins and outs)... I'm biased, but I'd take my G4 any day over those 2 (although, with that said, I didn't spend a whole lot of time with the G3 but from what I seen/experienced, it's pretty close to the G4. At this point, 2 full months of having it, I'm still glad I went with it.
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Kr0m100 said:
I haven't owned either phone but I've spent some time with both the S6+G3 in the past week (less tech savvy coworkers got them, had to show them the ins and outs)... I'm biased, but I'd take my G4 any day over those 2 (although, with that said, I didn't spend a whole lot of time with the G3 but from what I seen/experienced, it's pretty close to the G4. At this point, 2 full months of having it, I'm still glad I went with it.
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Thanks. Recognise you from another thread back in the day of my s2 I think. Maybe. Or HTC one or another phone !
I Taking both today to a theme park to test the cameras. G4 is a little slower to focus and snap and in HDR photos it really lags behind THE s6.

I had both s6 edge and g4 red leather
Decided to stick with G4 better battery better manual mode on camera. Feels better in hand and im not so worried about it being all glass

Same for me....from s6 to g4.....i love this phone!!!And the battery is veeery good!!!!Guys one question....are you using the fast charger or the normal one??

Why did you guys change from s6 ?

Flamehell said:
Same for me....from s6 to g4.....i love this phone!!!And the battery is veeery good!!!!Guys one question....are you using the fast charger or the normal one??
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I use a quick charger for when at home and in the car
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I agree with the premium feel. Coming from a M7 I gotten many compliments for its metal body and classy look.
I just slapt a good looking case on it and called it a day. Since it lives in a case I don't have to think about the back being plastic

I had both the G4 and S6 Edge 128GB at the same time for about 6 weeks.
In the end I sold the G4, despite its amazing camera capabilities as the S6 Edge is orders of magnitude better in materials and style.
2 months later... I sold the Edge and have bought a G4.
I am a camera enthusiast and the use of 3rd party apps to enable RAW and poor interfaces compared made me come back. The G4 camera and its pro mode is just brilliant.
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Thanks for all the great comments guys. I went to thorpe park and then chessington with my 4 year old (merlin passes) and used the s6 for both photos and videos. Really great results especially audio clarity on video and I think the s6 has better stability in ois (what do you guys think) . My son was playing angry birds whilst queuing and he dropped my s6 with the spigen air cusion case on and I thought it had broke !!! But I got lucky. I do think the g4 feels like it would not break at all at a child's drop. Pics attached from s6.
Tomorrow lego land !! With the g4.

I've owned every Verizon phone except the N5 and S6 Edge + (soon enough). The G4 fits my needs with a removable battery, as card slot, nice screen, great camera, and root. I only wish the bootloader was unlocked. I hate everything about Samsung since they took away the removable battery and sd card slot (and unlockable bootloader - N2).
I also have a unlocked M9 that I'll switch back to once CM is more polished. I liked the development on the G3 and M8 better than these current versions but I have to have the latest and greatest, lol.
Out of left field, the new Motorola Moto X Style Pure Edition will be the phone to beat in a month or so. And with a price tag of $400 off contract, XDA will have a field day with it. I'll be pre-ordering the day it becomes available.
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So this is what I mean with the camera on auto. S6 on top G4 below. Any ideas why ? G3 also did this.

I realise the position is slightly different but it was only to hide the person in the bed then they went out the room

Admin please close thread.
The pink spot in the centre of low light photos was really annoying me !! No excuse for that. Reminds me of my old HTC one. Annoying.

Droid Turbo 2 First Impressions

I've been using the Droid Turbo since the original launch date. I picked up the Turbo 2 this morning on the way to the office. Here are my observations thus far:
Good
Turbo charging is much faster.
The screen quality is great (plastic smchmastic!)
Power and volume buttons are improved.
This puppy is fast!
Android 5.1.1 is snappy.
New Moto tools are nice. I'm fond of "lift for voice."
The form factor is an improvement over the Turbo.
Addition of the SD card is very welcome!
I prefer the soft touch material to the Kevlar or ballistic nylon options on the Turbo.
The camera is surprisingly good and has zero shutter lag. It took some good pictures in low light.
Drum roll please... The volume is excellent!!!
Not so good
Do they have to keep making them bigger?
Did I mention it's bigger?
A fingerprint scanner would have been a welcomed addition.
In case you hadn't noticed, it's bigger.
Silly little Verizon logo on the chin is unnecessary.
I'll update this list throughout the day.

Thank you for posting. I am planning on a trip to Verizon after work to take a look, possibly buying if they have color combos that I like.
My questions, if you have time.
Are the front speakers stereo and how well does it work with the bottom one cut in half?
How is the screen in sunlight?

Martingitdave said:
I've been using the Droid Turbo since the original launch date. I picked up the Turbo 2 this morning on the way to the office. Here are my observations thus far:
I'll update this list throughout the day.
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Any chance you can post a photo/vid of the screens side by side on like min/mid/max brightness?
I have a Maxx, but won the DT2 during the droidseeker disaster yesterday

Sorry. I traded in the Turbo. Congrats on winning one. I got kicked out of the game 5 times with no success.
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Sorry. I traded in the Turbo. Congrats on winning one. I got kicked out of the game 5 times with no success.
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ah, damn. Would you say its comparable? Heard some questions about the increased "gap" between the front panels and the actual screen underneath.
Re: winning, i got really lucky got booted alllllll day, then around 10 ish i gave it "one last shot" & it just started working perfectly.

So screen ISNT a downgrade despite 500 layers of materials? Did you have a chance to put the Turbo and Turbo-2 side by side to compare? Thats one thing definitely concerning me.
Also, I assume the speakers, despite 2 grills, are NOT stereo, right? Can you confirm that? glad to hear volume is improved.

calash said:
Thank you for posting. I am planning on a trip to Verizon after work to take a look, possibly buying if they have color combos that I like.
My questions, if you have time.
Are the front speakers stereo and how well does it work with the bottom one cut in half?
How is the screen in sunlight?
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I can't speak to being stereo, or not. The sound is very good. The screen is much easier to read in daylight than my Droid Turbo.

asuhoops8628 said:
ah, damn. Would you say its comparable? Heard some questions about the increased "gap" between the front panels and the actual screen underneath.
Re: winning, i got really lucky got booted alllllll day, then around 10 ish i gave it "one last shot" & it just started working perfectly.
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Perhaps, but I can't find fault with it. Probably more black around the screen then some of the newer slimmer phones.

Martingitdave said:
I can't speak to being stereo, or not. The sound is very good. The screen is much easier to read in daylight than my Droid Turbo.
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I've read reviews that say only the right portion of the bottom speaker bit is actually used for music/speakerphone. No idea if they knew what they were talking about though. Could the bit to the left just be for looks?

rajuabju said:
So screen ISNT a downgrade despite 500 layers of materials? Did you have a chance to put the Turbo and Turbo-2 side by side to compare? Thats one thing definitely concerning me.
Also, I assume the speakers, despite 2 grills, are NOT stereo, right? Can you confirm that? glad to hear volume is improved.
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No, as far as I am concerned the screen quality is at least equal.

Yeah I'd say the negatives pretty much come down to:
1. Big
2. No fingerprint scanner yet
3. Screen size is not as big as it could be, verizon logo, lost some of the aesthetic appeal since the Moto X

Fwiw I looked at four different T2s and every screen was dark and dingy compared to my Pure with full brightness on all of them.
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At the Verizon store last night. Thanks to a non-motivated sales person I did not leave with one, but I got mine ordered on Moto-maker under contract.
The screen was fine for me holding it next to a HTC One M7. I may be more forgiving than others so a personal inspection is a real good idea.
This may just be me but I was kind of expecting stereo speaker output and this is not the case. Youtube played from the lower speaker area on the demo units at Verizon.
Edit: On a side note, does Motomaker normally ship in less than 24 hours? I put in my order at 10pm and this morning Verizon sent me tracking info. That seems a bit fast...I hope they get my order right.

I overheard a sales person saying that they give you a code to follow up with Moto directly. No idea if this is true. Probably a lot of confusion with a new program.
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calash said:
At the Verizon store last night. Thanks to a non-motivated sales person I did not leave with one, but I got mine ordered on Moto-maker under contract.
The screen was fine for me holding it next to a HTC One M7. I may be more forgiving than others so a personal inspection is a real good idea.
This may just be me but I was kind of expecting stereo speaker output and this is not the case. Youtube played from the lower speaker area on the demo units at Verizon.
Edit: On a side note, does Motomaker normally ship in less than 24 hours? I put in my order at 10pm and this morning Verizon sent me tracking info. That seems a bit fast...I hope they get my order right.
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I put a motomaker order in at about 9pm last night, by 1030, it was "being built." I could see it shipping in 24 hours based on this. I seem to remember hearing motomaker would be 1-2 days to build.

Against my principle of waiting for it to have android 6 (so I have no right to complain if it takes forever to get marshmallow... I knew better Lol), I picked up a turbo 2 today.
So far I like it a lot. I was worried about the screen being too detached with all of the layers, and while it does seem farther away than on my note 5, it isn't a big deal to me.
No fingerprint scanner isn't a big deal to me since I have a moto 360, and use it as a trusted device.
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Picked up a dt2 today. Traded in my old lg g2. Loved my droid maxx and still have it as a backup phone. So far I'm really liking this phone. Screen is bright and ui seems fast. Camera is OK but I've seen better. Fp scanner would have been nice but not a have to for me right now. Under development option there's a unlock oem bootloader toggle. Not sure what's that about. It can't be that easy. Yeah the split grills at bottom are not too attractive but hey who really looks at your phone but you. It's not that big a deal to me. Sound is pretty good. Overall I'm happy.

So been away from XDA for a while but just picked up my Droid Turbo 2 and loving it so far... Nice solid build quality, solid reception, Ballistic material has a nice feel, cameras are typical moto in my opinion but good enough for my use... the front flash for the times when the gf wants a selfie is going to be a big plus... overall very pleased so far... looking forward to more time with this device....
Also OEM (bootloader unlocking) has a toggle under developer options so maybe it wont be so locked down...

Just ordered my Turbo2.
Considering I was able to get the trade-in promo of $300 value for my existing Turbo, and use account upgrade on the new Turbo2, I'm actually coming out ahead. Wow.
Awesomeness.
Goodbye root

rajuabju said:
Just ordered my Turbo2.
Considering I was able to get the trade-in promo of $300 value for my existing Turbo, and use account upgrade on the new Turbo2, I'm actually coming out ahead. Wow.
Awesomeness.
Goodbye root
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Really? I was going to order online and was going to do the promotion of the trade in, but they only appraised my Turbo at a value of $191
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Switch from Z3 Compact to LG G4

I'm currently using Z3 Compact and I've been really satisfied.. but now the jack is not working and I'm tempted by all the good offers on the LG G4. I'm just wondering about a couple of things. Hope you peeps can answer some..
1. The size is my biggest issue... I'm afraid the LG G4 may be too big for me. I have quite small hands, but I would like a bit bigger phone than the Z3C. Do you guys think it would be too big for me?
2. Performance wise.. Will it be any upgrade?
Thanks

G4 has a large screen but feels very good in hand.
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I just switched to a G4 from a Moto X 2013. I have to admit the size scared me at first, but I'm getting used to it...
It's sad that I can barely type a message with one hand anymore (I still don't feel 100% confident in terms of balancing the phone in one hand while typing), but all the other benefits make it worth the trade.
The screen is great for reading, media consumption and just beautiful overall, and oh - the camera! Also, Marshmallow!
I don't regret my switch.
But I wouldn't mind having a bit of a smaller phone as my next one.

ProudRambo said:
I just switched to a G4 from a Moto X 2013. I have to admit the size scared me at first, but I'm getting used to it...
It's sad that I can barely type a message with one hand anymore (I still don't feel 100% confident in terms of balancing the phone in one hand while typing), but all the other benefits make it worth the trade.
The screen is great for reading, media consumption and just beautiful overall, and oh - the camera! Also, Marshmallow!
I don't regret my switch.
But I wouldn't mind having a bit of a smaller phone as my next one.
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Thanks.. It's the size im most afraid of, since I mostly use my Z3C with just one hand.. I rarely use it with two. If you were me and still had the Moto X, would you choose the G4 again, or buy a smaller one?

joakimbo said:
Thanks.. It's the size im most afraid of, since I mostly use my Z3C with just one hand.. I rarely use it with two. If you were me and still had the Moto X, would you choose the G4 again, or buy a smaller one?
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Honestly, it's also a matter of how good a deal you find. I got this G4 for a very nice price compared to how much other last year's flagships cost where I live, so the 5,5 inches is just something I can live with in exchange.
But I must admit I would prefer something around 5 inches. I would've gotten the S7 (non-edge, although the edge is beautiful) if I weren't too late for the preorder Gear VR bonus...
Didn't want to dish out so much for just the phone (over twice as much as the G4 cost me).
I had the S7 in hand and it feels perfect. ~5.1 inches is the sweet spot for my hands, it seems.
It also depends on what you're looking for in a phone... I really wanted a good camera and the G4 has one of the best.
Not sure about any other recent phones which are fairly compact and have a really good camera at the same time...
Well, there's the Galaxy S6, and you might ask why didn't I consider it - well, I didn't really fancy Samsung phones until the S7...
Although supposedly the S6 is much better with Marshmallow now... It's not a bad choice, I guess.
In the end, there's no short answer, since the size isn't the only factor here.
I think the G4 overall is such a nice device in every way... if you can get it at a good price, you won't regret it no matter if you end up typing messages in one hand or two...
Think about what you want the most in a phone and check whether the G4 has it and consider whether you're willing to live with the trade-off of having a bigger phone.

joakimbo said:
1. The size is my biggest issue... I'm afraid the LG G4 may be too big for me. I have quite small hands, but I would like a bit bigger phone than the Z3C. Do you guys think it would be too big for me?
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Only you can answer that. Are you a phone size phone type of person or not.. Why not hold one yourself.
Do take this seriously as the best phone in the world means nothing if you can't handle it comfortably. I opted for the G4 because the v10 would be too big. I did this be using a iphone 6 plus as a dummy (!) that blocky device was uncomfortable and the v10 was bigger still. My previous device had a 4.7" screen so jumping to 5.9" was a jump too far.
2. Performance wise.. Will it be any upgrade?
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I'm wondering how demanding you are of battery. How much sot do you require over how long for standby.
What sot/runtime does the Z3c give you currently over data only, over wifi only.

For me I switched from Z3 .. You will get many upgrades and noticeably better performance but you will be disappointed about the battery life a lot especially from a Z3 compact user.. SOT is barely 4 h and 30 m over wifi only.. Standby nearly 20 h

joakimbo said:
I'm currently using Z3 Compact and I've been really satisfied.. but now the jack is not working and I'm tempted by all the good offers on the LG G4.
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Wow that is a jump. I don't know what specifically attracts you to the G4. I chose it mainly for the Camera and the fact that I can enable Qi charging, which I couldn't do with the Nexus 5X. At that time I didn't even know about LG's ridiculous unlocking policy. So if Camera an Qi are not that important to you, I'd stay the hell away from the G4 and get an N5X instead. Real cheap now, latest Android, fingerprint and even a bit smaller than the G4.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 3, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 3 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Looks and feels just right. Has all the essential ingredients of a very good device - nice display, Camera and fast!

I named mine cold Betty. She's cold to the touch, but her love is so warm.

I like so much OnePlus 3 and it really gives me awesome feel, and I fall in true love with it. When I am take it in my hand I am just fits in perfectly in my palms.
I have so many gorgeous protective cases.
OnePlus 3 like to me on first sight for so much but beautiful stuff.
It is a pity that the rear camera of OnePlus is protruding, though it uses 16MP lens IMX298 from Sony.
OnePlus 3 smartphone supports dual sim card dual standby.
OnePlus also gifts me one more VR Headset. Before announcing OnePlus 3 smartphone And this VR Headset is not made by OnePlus either, instead by AntVR.
And have very good battery and features fast charging technology.

Its a good phone for a reasonable price but not a flagship killer for an amazing price.

Isn`t a good phone all we need realy, most extra features on the `flagships` are useless to me anyway

Beautiful phone with a crystal clear display and a powerhouse of its own class
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Love the phone so far. Extremely fast, very responsive fingerprint scanner and beautiful, vibrant screen.

Great phone so far.
The LG G4 on the other hand was frustrating as a device if not for the awful software experience that I couldn't even fix even if I wanted to. Never again doing anything but OnePlus or Nexus. G4 was a huge mistake.

Current 6p and HTC 10 user here and I can't even begin to say how impressed I am with this OP3. Grant it I've only had it half a day, so far I'm completely blown away!! Almost 3 hours sot right now and battery at 50% ?I love everything about it. Only mediocre thing is the external speakers. Amazing camera, beautiful screen, perfect size, feels greet in the hand, shoot it even looks great! Oh and the finger print reader is way faster than both the 10 and 6p. But the thing that impressed me the most is the skin. I'm still bone stock and I never leave phones stock.. it just has all the things Google SHOULD have in stock MM.. no bloatware either.. just an impressive handset and all for 400$ bucks! Here's some photos and screen shots! https://goo.gl/photos/RgwFUT3Rwhyt6XJL6

Nexus 6P, 5x, Note4, LG G4, S6 Edge, OP2 owner here.
OnePlus 3 is very much what Nexus 6P should be. It's lighter and faster than 6P and easier to grip and easier to use.
The 6P has the better display and better all around camera but the OP3 has everything most power user would ask for.
Tap to wake, Dark mode, and customizeable buttons are great to have. Hated how stock Android doesn't have these simple features.

Come from oneplus one, buy it to replace my 6p
using it since last night, overall it's worth buy. Excellenct build quality. loud speaker ( not good as dual-front facing stereo speakers like m8 and 6p, but it's loud and clear. ) good camera ( 6p>op3>note 5 ) ,crazy fast charge, feel rock solid in hand. battery seems ok with 5h SOT on lastest oxygen 3.1.3
I think it's a bang for just 400$

I totally loved my OPO, but now this piece of awesomeness OP3 is my new favorite
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Great phone
Love it

Loving my device. Sold my S7 Edge in platinum today. My one plus came in today. That should say a lot. This thing is a beast.
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It's all that.
As a previous owner of the oneplus 1 and then the oneplus 2, I can say that oneplus has out done themselves. I got my 3 in yesterday. Couple of quick points:
1. I waited for 6 weeks after initial launch date to just get an invite for the oneplus one (June 2014). It took the company 4 more weeks to get it to me after ordering and paying for it. Customer service sucked, invite system sucked, logistics and management sucked... Just about everything with the company SUCKED.
But the phone was awesome.
The specs and price couldn't be matched. That was the first phone I can honestly say I have ever fallen in love with. No screen issues or any of the other crap a lot of people were complaining about. Just pure love for the device, borderline hatred for the company though.
2. The oneplus 2 comes out last summer, again, with an invite system but I get lucky and receive one for being an early forum user within 2 weeks of official launch. It took them 6 weeks to get the phone to me. Was excited when I first got it, and then my optimism quickly turned to disappointment. The oneplus 2 was not nearly worth the upgrade. I should have kept my oneplus one in hindsight. Total buyer's remorse and top of that, the company still didn't have their shlt together. Again, customer service still sucking hard, untimely bug fixes for the OS, lags and heating problems with the phone, I could go on and on... Horrible experience all the way around. Hated that damn phone.
3. One more shot oneplus. Buying my 3rd phone from them in less years. 3 total phone purchases in less than 2 years. And only had the oneplus 2 since late September 2015, though it was ordered and processed the 2nd week of August.
With much apprehension, I placed my order for the 3, Monday afternoon, June 20, to be shipped to Atlanta, GA. I was distraught when my DHL shipping email was received telling me that the phone was in Hong Kong going through customs Tuesday morning. *sigh*, here we go again, I thought, but figured 'at least I didn't have to wait on an invite'. The phone was delivered yesterday afternoon. Less than 72 hours after placing my order, I got my phone in hand. Paid no shipping, no tax.
Totally different buying experience. Blown away. I feel like a parent must feel when they realize their baby is grown up. Almost brings a tear to my eye.
Moved all my crap over from the 2 and have been using the hell out of this thing and I can once again, honestly, say that I have fallen in love with my phone. It's my second love, the first being the oneplus one and now the 3. I have no qualms what so ever with this purchase. Awesome device. Just awesome, everything is as it should be. I have no plans to replace Oxygen or run a custom kernel. Though I have rooted it for using certain apps I can't live without. Adaway anyone?
I don't usually give any credence to these phone benchmark scores or ranks... but out of curiosity, I ran an antutu test and have attached the results. keep in mind, I'm totally stock. Rom, kernel, kernel settings like governor and thermal driver settings are all factory. I just don't see a need anymore, and that's a good thing.
Also, screens showing battery consumption so far. I use high accuracy location to share my whereabouts in real time with my family, that includes WiFi scanning enabled. Bluetooth is always on and connected to my Moto 360 2nd Gen watch, adaptive brightness enabled, vibration on touch and notification on, single Sim (t-mobile).
Anyways, that's my initial rant on things. Been around awhile, at least in oneplus years and right now I am happy as can be. This phone is a monster. Beautiful, sleek and cool on the outside, but down right vicious on the inside.
Don't be worried if your on the fence about getting one, it may not be 100% to 100% of everyone, but what is? You won't be disappointed.
Peace out my brothers from other mothers.
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Onelove

One Plus 2 Complete Review
He lived up to our expectations as a great device, leaving his successor with big shoes to fill.So far the was exactly that. Its beautiful screen coupled with its new oxygen operating system and the old familiar

wow, some even prefering it over the 6p!
well, i watched some reviews of the op3, it is so blazing fast.
how is the ram management for you op3 owners? and how is the display pentile pixel thingie?
some reported problems about ram management/pentile pixel issue, and OP replied quick that they will come with a new software update and fix those 2 issues.
would you op3 who owned a 6p really advise the op3 over a 6p?
(i am saving up for a 6p currently..) i could easily buy a MotoXPure as it is very cheap at 300$ , but it reminds me alot of my current phone lol.. so i rather want something more innovated.

While I like the device a lot I kinda miss the form factor and size of my nexus 5x. The s820 still has some stutter here and there that bothers me. Wish qualcomm could make a chip like the exynos cpus. Other than that ill hold onto it for awhile. At least until the next nexus comes.

Upgrading from the One M8 -- stick with HTC or move on?

I love the HTC One M8. I've had mine for about 2.5 years now and it has worked well. Battery life is still good. If the camera took higher resolution photos and the processor was a little faster, I'd stick with it. This is my 3rd HTC phone. I never buy a phone right after it is released, preferring to see how well it is liked after the first year or two. The M9 was pretty much a disaster, so I left that out of consideration. Then there's the HTC 10.
The HTC 10 looked to be everything I want in a phone, going from the M8. It has good reviews and is recommended as a used phone. But... I didn't do enough homework and unfortunately discovered it has some serious problems. I was one of the unlucky ones. I bought a great condition HTC 10 and thought I'd gotten a good deal. The screen is noticeably richer in color, brighter, and processor speed is faster. But I ran into that nasty battery problem. It shuts down at around 25% and goes into a boot loop that won't quit until you plug in the phone. That's when I went on-line and looked up this problem... much to my dismay, discovering that this is a pretty common problem with no simple fix. I'm in the process of dealing with the seller to return the phone.
Now that I've witnessed this nightmare first hand, I'm very leery of trying this again, buying another used HTC 10. At this point, the U11 is still too new and costly. Frankly, I really don't see a good path... except maybe a Samsung S7. But I've never liked Samsung phones. I much prefer HTC Sense.
I'm wondering if I should just hang onto my One M8 for another year and see how things go with the U11. Or maybe consider a Google Pixel 2.
If you were an owner of a One M8 and upgraded to a better phone, which one did you choose and are you happy with it?

I'd say stick with M8 until it dies, there's really no better replacement for this phone except 10, but as you said it's hit or miss.
U11 definitely isn't a bad phone, but it doesn't have the soul of older HTCs IMO.
Also it really depends what thing in phone do you need the most - build quality and materials? speed? audio quality? overall experience?
ZTE Axon 7 is a solid all rounder and should feel like an upgrade of everything in M8. It's a bit old now though, but if age or manufacturer doesn't concern you then it should be a good choice.
Galaxy S7 also isn't that bad. Hardware wise S series are always one of the best - great camera and display, however it's a Samsung, so due to it's heavy UI it's slower than comparable phones.
OnePlus 5T has four pros - price, speed, ram and metal unibody. Apart from those it really doesn't stand out.
My next phone for 90% is LG V30 - it's pretty much a great all rounder with focus on audio and camera/video quality and that's what interest me the most.

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I'd say stick with M8 until it dies, there's really no better replacement for this phone except 10, but as you said it's hit or miss. U11 definitely isn't a bad phone, but it doesn't have the soul of older HTCs IMO.
Also it really depends what thing in phone do you need the most - build quality and materials? speed? audio quality? overall experience?
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While I'm not a heavy camera/video user, I'd like to have better hardware. The M8 employs this dual 4MP lens design that, while good for its day, is lagging far behind now. All of those factors are important for me: build quality/materials, system and video speed, audio quality, and user experience. The M8 has a great user experience and generally performs quickly, with really terrific audio quality. The screen looks fine, but next to an HTC 10? It's not as bright and quite as color rich.
ZTE Axon 7 is a solid all rounder and should feel like an upgrade of everything in M8. It's a bit old now though, but if age or manufacturer doesn't concern you then it should be a good choice.
Galaxy S7 also isn't that bad. Hardware wise S series are always one of the best - great camera and display, however it's a Samsung, so due to it's heavy UI it's slower than comparable phones.
OnePlus 5T has four pros - price, speed, ram and metal unibody. Apart from those it really doesn't stand out.
My next phone for 90% is LG V30 - it's pretty much a great all rounder with focus on audio and camera/video quality and that's what interest me the most.
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I've not warmed up to these other brands, like ZTE, Huawei, OnePlus. Comparably they've not been on the market for very long. I've read about reliability issues after a couple years of ownership, so getting one of those used is outside my consideration.
Two of my family members have Samsung Galaxy phones, and I can't stand their UI. It's utterly ridiculous how they bury mobile data access control. You should be able to 1) double-finger swipe down, and 2) uncheck mobile data. That's how HTC works. But with Samsung, you've got to swipe, click, swipe, click, swipe, click to get to the mobile data control. They probably did that as a "friend to the carrier" so you'll use up more mobile data because it's too much of a pain to turn it off. Screw that. Of course, you could install a widget for controlling that... but it takes up real estate and it's simply illogical--this should be accessible from the swipe-down menu.
I have to say, I'd looked at the LG V30 and was considering it... until I read LG V30 REVIEW: GROUNDBREAKING PHONE WITH A DEAL-BREAKING FLAW. Screen resolution, clarity, and color rendition is important to me, and the V30 drops the ball. I did look at it compared directly to a couple other phones in a cellular phone store, and I have to agree it's not on par with the competition.

Honestly many smartphones nowadays have some type of problems, it's a gamble to get a perfect one.
As the review said, V30 has bad OLED display, but it's not 100% chance that every model will be as bad and that's what I'm hoping for when I get one.
Pixel 2 phones also had issues with display and some other things. Some of them got fixed with software upgrade, but not all of them, you should look into it.
Can't really think of any other solid phones that could be a good upgrade over M8 and not too expensive. Maybe something from Sony? I've thought about Xperia XZ Premium for a long time myself - hardware wise it's pretty good and their UI is very simple. The size is what put me off - it's just too big to be comfortable, V30 with half an inch bigger display feels pretty snug in hand.
That said, maybe the smaller XZ or XZ1 might be a better choice.
If not then I guess you could think about U11 - it's definitely not a bad phone, but different than M8. If you could accept it's cons it would be a pretty good choice.

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Honestly many smartphones nowadays have some type of problems, it's a gamble to get a perfect one.
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No doubt at all. I'm not expecting perfection, only issues that I can live with. The HTC 10 isn't perfect, but without the reported battery issue it would be my choice for now. If I could find a totally checked out excellent condition example for about $150, I'd be happy. I'd even consider $195, for refurbished/like-new with warranty. In my book, $500~$600 for a new phone is too much. $300~$350 is about right. Back when the Evo 3D was still in play, if the battery was faulty all you'd have to do is swap it out. Unfortunately everyone has moved to these embedded batteries. It really sucks. Was a slim case that compelling enough to do it? I'd rather have a phone where half of it is thicker to house the removable battery. Far easier to manage. But, I think the ulterior motive was control. Now cellular phone makers don't have to worry about non-OEM / 3rd party questionable batteries being used in their phones. What they could have done is make intelligent batteries with circuitry required for usage, something a clone battery maker can't copy.
As the review said, V30 has bad OLED display, but it's not 100% chance that every model will be as bad and that's what I'm hoping for when I get one. Pixel 2 phones also had issues with display and some other things. Some of them got fixed with software upgrade, but not all of them, you should look into it.
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It might have been a production batch issue... you'd have to look at other reviews. I did hear about the Google Pixel 2 having some issues but it looks like they were successfully addressed. And they're more readily apparent and easier to verify than something like a vague battery issue.
The U11 is a very nice phone, but too pricey for me right now. However, the U12 comes out in May. Maybe I'll wait until then for a U11 price drop.

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I love the HTC One M8. I've had mine for about 2.5 years now and it has worked well. Battery life is still good. If the camera took higher resolution photos and the processor was a little faster, I'd stick with it. This is my 3rd HTC phone. I never buy a phone right after it is released, preferring to see how well it is liked after the first year or two. The M9 was pretty much a disaster, so I left that out of consideration. Then there's the HTC 10.
The HTC 10 looked to be everything I want in a phone, going from the M8. It has good reviews and is recommended as a used phone. But... I didn't do enough homework and unfortunately discovered it has some serious problems. I was one of the unlucky ones. I bought a great condition HTC 10 and thought I'd gotten a good deal. The screen is noticeably richer in color, brighter, and processor speed is faster. But I ran into that nasty battery problem. It shuts down at around 25% and goes into a boot loop that won't quit until you plug in the phone. That's when I went on-line and looked up this problem... much to my dismay, discovering that this is a pretty common problem with no simple fix. I'm in the process of dealing with the seller to return the phone.
Now that I've witnessed this nightmare first hand, I'm very leery of trying this again, buying another used HTC 10. At this point, the U11 is still too new and costly. Frankly, I really don't see a good path... except maybe a Samsung S7. But I've never liked Samsung phones. I much prefer HTC Sense.
I'm wondering if I should just hang onto my One M8 for another year and see how things go with the U11. Or maybe consider a Google Pixel 2.
If you were an owner of a One M8 and upgraded to a better phone, which one did you choose and are you happy with it?
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I'm in the same boat as you are. I love my M8, but with some of the new technology out there, and with the M8 still sporting Android 6 (I've tried Oreo - don't really like it), I was a hair away from buying the U11. But I just couldn't see spending $600 for a new phone.
Then I looked at the Moto z2 Force - a great phone with specs similar to the U11. And I can get the Motorola for about $375.00
To me, there is one main "con" for each of these phones:
Moto: Not water or dust resistant (U11 is)
U11: Price is high
Both: No headphone jack
If the Motorola had an IP67 or 68 rating, I'd get it in a heartbeat.
And if the U11 price went down to, say, $400, I'd grab it right away.
To me, those are the two strongest candidates. And the Moto has mods (if that interests you).
I love Sense, and it's able to be added to most phones now, but it's not the same as being built-in.

I love the M8 and has been my all-time favorite phone. I've since moved on to LG V10 and V20, but there are weeks where I pop out my sim card and throw into my M8. Battery on my M8 is still just as good as my V20, and the M8 is just that perfect phone. I wish they could have squeezed a 5.2 inch display and while I loved the Ultra Pixel in its day, its still not bad. In fact I used it over Easter, and in doors I grabbed some great photos that probably would have been hard for my V20 in lower light.
I've also thought of actually selling my V20 and picking up an HTC 10. I've been watching all the phones that come into Swappa. Personally I'm not into the all glass phone trend, so the U11 isn't really an option.
However the only thing that holds me back from picking up a 10 is I'm just not happy with the front design. It reminds me too much of a mash up between an iPhone and an Galaxy S6/S7. I realize that was intentional by HTC, as they had great success with the A9, which was mostly an iPhone clone. But when I see the 10 in a case(which is probably what I'd do), it just kind of loses that unique HTC design touch that was great with the M7-M9. Although I do love Sense as a skin.
I don't think I'll ever let go of the M8.

Hi guys, could anyone tell where to buy an m8 or 10 for cheap right now? Any suggestions plz?
I sold my m8 an year ago for a note 3; I'm tired of the sammy now, and wish to get rid of it.
I checked some Aliexpress listings, but they come off as a bit shady and untrustworthy?
Any reliable sources to grab one of these?(I live in South Asia)

dhrjbhtt0 said:
Hi guys, could anyone tell where to buy an m8 or 10 for cheap right now? Any suggestions plz?
I sold my m8 an year ago for a note 3; I'm tired of the sammy now, and wish to get rid of it.
I checked some Aliexpress listings, but they come off as a bit shady and untrustworthy?
Any reliable sources to grab one of these?(I live in South Asia)
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Maybe try Swappa? Someone might do international shipping for you. Most are pretty cheap.
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gustav30 said:
Maybe try Swappa? Someone might do international shipping for you. Most are pretty cheap.
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The problem with Swappa is exactly with the shipping scene, they just won't ship the device to any international location outside the States. This seemed to be the case at least with the M8 and 10.
Thanks for your suggestion though

dhrjbhtt0 said:
The problem with Swappa is exactly with the shipping scene, they just won't ship the device to any international location outside the States. This seemed to be the case at least with the M8 and 10.
Thanks for your suggestion though
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That is too bad. How about eBay?
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dhrjbhtt0 said:
Hi guys, could anyone tell where to buy an m8 or 10 for cheap right now? Any suggestions plz?
I sold my m8 an year ago for a note 3; I'm tired of the sammy now, and wish to get rid of it.
I checked some Aliexpress listings, but they come off as a bit shady and untrustworthy?
Any reliable sources to grab one of these?(I live in South Asia)
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Don't you have a local online selling site? Most often it's the fastest and reliable way to get things cheaper.

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Don't you have a local online selling site? Most often it's the fastest and reliable way to get things cheaper.
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The closest are the Chinese retailers(I'm in India) through Aliexpress, as any of the online retailers like Amazon and Flipkart do not sell the M8 anymore and the HTC 10 is priced unreasonably high, priced at 490ish usd.

gustav30 said:
I love the M8 and has been my all-time favorite phone. I've since moved on to LG V10 and V20, but there are weeks where I pop out my sim card and throw into my M8. Battery on my M8 is still just as good as my V20, and the M8 is just that perfect phone. I wish they could have squeezed a 5.2 inch display and while I loved the Ultra Pixel in its day, its still not bad. In fact I used it over Easter, and in doors I grabbed some great photos that probably would have been hard for my V20 in lower light.
I've also thought of actually selling my V20 and picking up an HTC 10. I've been watching all the phones that come into Swappa. Personally I'm not into the all glass phone trend, so the U11 isn't really an option.
However the only thing that holds me back from picking up a 10 is I'm just not happy with the front design. It reminds me too much of a mash up between an iPhone and an Galaxy S6/S7. I realize that was intentional by HTC, as they had great success with the A9, which was mostly an iPhone clone. But when I see the 10 in a case(which is probably what I'd do), it just kind of loses that unique HTC design touch that was great with the M7-M9. Although I do love Sense as a skin.
I don't think I'll ever let go of the M8.
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Nice to see another member here with great appreciation for the M8. Phones like this often get easily dismissed as obsolete tech, but I don't think the M8 lags behind all that badly. It's another story when looking at the M8 over the Evo 3D though!
Side-by-side, the HTC 10 screen looks nicer than the M8. It's brighter, more vibrant colors, and you can tell it has a faster processor. It's not a huge difference, but enough to notice when they're adjacent. But take away the HTC 10, and the M8 starts looking good again. To be blunt, I don't know why people get bent out of shape by bezels. I think they look fine on the M8. And really, the back panel doesn't matter all that much because most people use cases. I could not use my One M8 without one, because it's too slippery and that brushed metal back would get dented/scratched. Being in a case has kept it in excellent shape. I use a translucent TPU case, so you can still see the back a bit while enjoying protection.
Generally the way I operate is to always keep a spare phone as a backup, in case I lose my main phone or run into an issue that I can't easily fix/recover. The spare one is quick and easy to activate, so I don't suffer much down-time. I don't want to be forced to run out to a store and pay top dollar for a new phone. When I misplaced my M8, I reactivated my old Evo 3D. And while it did the job, it was... painful. That thing is just too old now. So I was thinking should I get another M8... or upgrade to an HTC 10. That's when I ran into that battery problem on a gently used HTC 10 that threw my plan in the trash. Given how many people have reported the battery issue, I'm now leery of buying from a reseller that unloads large batches of phones with just minimal testing performed. They're not going to do the 1 hour HTC battery test. And when a seller can't answer your questions well for suffering with English as a 3rd language, it makes it risky.
I checked out Swappa, but didn't see anyone in my immediate area with an HTC 10 for a reasonable price.

cytherian said:
Nice to see another member here with great appreciation for the M8. Phones like this often get easily dismissed as obsolete tech, but I don't think the M8 lags behind all that badly. It's another story when looking at the M8 over the Evo 3D though!
Side-by-side, the HTC 10 screen looks nicer than the M8. It's brighter, more vibrant colors, and you can tell it has a faster processor. It's not a huge difference, but enough to notice when they're adjacent. But take away the HTC 10, and the M8 starts looking good again. To be blunt, I don't know why people get bent out of shape by bezels. I think they look fine on the M8. And really, the back panel doesn't matter all that much because most people use cases. I could not use my One M8 without one, because it's too slippery and that brushed metal back would get dented/scratched. Being in a case has kept it in excellent shape. I use a translucent TPU case, so you can still see the back a bit while enjoying protection.
Generally the way I operate is to always keep a spare phone as a backup, in case I lose my main phone or run into an issue that I can't easily fix/recover. The spare one is quick and easy to activate, so I don't suffer much down-time. I don't want to be forced to run out to a store and pay top dollar for a new phone. When I misplaced my M8, I reactivated my old Evo 3D. And while it did the job, it was... painful. That thing is just too old now. So I was thinking should I get another M8... or upgrade to an HTC 10. That's when I ran into that battery problem on a gently used HTC 10 that threw my plan in the trash. Given how many people have reported the battery issue, I'm now leery of buying from a reseller that unloads large batches of phones with just minimal testing performed. They're not going to do the 1 hour HTC battery test. And when a seller can't answer your questions well for suffering with English as a 3rd language, it makes it risky.
I checked out Swappa, but didn't see anyone in my immediate area with an HTC 10 for a reasonable price.
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I'm in a similar boat as you mate, can't find a legit place to but an m8 or 10 here in South Asia for cheap
PLz tell me if u find someone who does international shipping of either of these two.

Has anyone over here bought any HTC device from aliexpress?
I'm planning on buying an HTC 10 from over there, but don't have any past experiences with any of the sellers over there.
The price seems fine, just north of 250usd.
Any idea anyone might have?

My m8 had a bad battery after all the years of heavy usage, hundreds/countless drops to all kinds of grounds even fell in water a few times.It looks really really bad from the outside,completely full of ditches and scratches and other strange markings, I even managed to "pull/curl" a kind of sharp edge out on a small spot of the aluminum on the back through a drop.But besides that it was/is shutting down between 40-75% everything was working completely fine,so I really didn't want any other phone but an htc after that proof of ruggedness/solidness either.
I also got a dead m9 here that just one day to the other shut off and completely died over time,not even a led is blinking anymore and it's only lifesign is plugged into a PC where it shows up as a Qualcomm service hub, but all that is a different story,just wanted to mention that experience with HTC.
I lived with that m8 then for quite a time and nearly ended up buying another new/refurbished m8/9/10 but then i found the ZTE axon 7 to be my perfect replacement,as it was the only phone with good sounding/loud front facing speakers and an all aluminum body,also I wanted to have a slightly bigger screen and the other advantages of the zte didn't seem bad either.So I bought a used axon for 150€ and even though it has its own faults, like the buttons, I wouldn't change back to the m8 for my daily,not even with a factory new battery.
Hope that wasn't too much to read through

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My advice is to wait a little longer, check out U12 and even pixel 3, maybe oneplus 6 (I am notch hater, but maybe you are not).

I'm thinking of picking up a used M9, just to sort of complete what I think is the perfect trifecta of HTC phones. M7, M8, M9.
Yeah, for camera needs I turn to my V20/V10s, but for aesthetics, I don't think any phone comes close to the M series.
M9 could have been a great phone if they had just used a better sensor and thrown in OIS.
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7 years old, my HTC M8 is finally starting to fail. Dot-view now mal-functions, and I can't upgrade anything else without a significant decrease in speed.
I am genuinely happy with this phone. The 'dot-view' function was groundbreaking for its time, as was the body armour that supported it.
I am unsure whether to consider another phone, or upgrade to the HTC 12