Google app/Google search question about crashes - MTCB Android Head Units Q&A

Hi all,
I know there are quite a few people with issues on the google app crashing and I thought it might be helpful to see if we could collate different people's experience here - what hardware (RK?), rom, version etc, in case there is a particular version that works.
I have a RK3066/stock rom configuration. In terms of the version I have tried:
So 3.3.12 didn't crash at all in my brief test . But can't voice dial, guess they changed how it works some point after that .
5.4.x can crash repeatedly, best case feels like every other time. It also does not pick up my navigate requests correctly.
4.9.22 crashes infrequently so far. Never repeatedly which is importantly , worst every other time,usual say every five attempts.
4.7.x similar to 4.9.22
4.5.x - crashed alot
4.1.x crashes every 2-3 attempts, but can voice dial with this version (and above).
There is a 5.12 beta I haven' tried.
APKs at http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-search/
Finally, is there a way of logging the detail of a google app crash - to see if there is something specific causing it?
Cheers

Another option.. I played w/ it on my phone and it was pretty nice. It does rely on google voice search so who knows if it'll crash also.
http://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-get-voice-access-beta/

TT_Vert said:
Another option.. I played w/ it on my phone and it was pretty nice. It does rely on google voice search so who knows if it'll crash also.
http://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-get-voice-access-beta/
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Minimum android version is lollipop

Well that sucks a big one. To be honest it started to annoy me today. Couldn't fund out how to quickly turn it off

I would prefer to dig into why it crashes rather them retry to replace it. We know Goggle Voice works well when it works we just need to keep it working.
Unfortunately I really don't know where to start with it. I wish I had a bench top unit so I didn't always need to be in my car.
Is anyone running a HU emulator?

hans109h said:
I would prefer to dig into why it crashes rather them retry to replace it. We know Goggle Voice works well when it works we just need to keep it working.
Unfortunately I really don't know where to start with it. I wish I had a bench top unit so I didn't always need to be in my car.
Is anyone running a HU emulator?
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Yes I think this will get us furthest, if we can understand why it crashes, then maybe there is a work around. Is it to do with microphone readiness, data connection or some other launch/ROM issue????
Having a crash free google app voice search would turn this HU from good to virtually perfect for me!

Mr Bigglesworth said:
Yes I think this will get us furthest, if we can understand why it crashes, then maybe there is a work around. Is it to do with microphone readiness, data connection or some other launch/ROM issue????
Having a crash free google app voice search would turn this HU from good to virtually perfect for me!
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On my device it crashed offer if radio was playing during while I initiated the search. But it crashed also when the radio was not playing.

p_mike83 said:
On my device it crashed offer if radio was playing during while I initiated the search. But it crashed also when the radio was not playing.
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On my HU is crashing all the time. I'm using the latest ROM from Malay Master. I have tried different version(some are crashes often, some rarely), but until now I didn't find a solution/workaround to this problem.
Still investigating...

dj.martzian said:
On my HU is crashing all the time. I'm using the latest ROM from Malay Master. I have tried different version(some are crashes often, some rarely), but until now I didn't find a solution/workaround to this problem.
Still investigating...
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So are you able to say which are more stable? And what hardware do you have?

Mr Bigglesworth said:
So are you able to say which are more stable? And what hardware do you have?
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The most stable is version 4.9.22.19 from apkmirror.com
HU Technical Specs: RK3188, 1024x600
Here is the link with the product:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Quad...r-DVD-Player-For-FORD-MONDEO/32563024121.html
Best Regards,
D.

dj.martzian said:
The most stable is version 4.9.22.19 from apkmirror.com
HU Technical Specs: RK3188, 1024x600
Here is the link with the product:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Quad...r-DVD-Player-For-FORD-MONDEO/32563024121.html
Best Regards,
D.
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Yes, I also thought that 4.9.22 is one of the most stable of those that I have tried and have proper functionality. I'm on RK3066 and stock ROM. Interesting that your RK3188 doesn't improve things markedly, I don't think it is a processing power issue.
I was thinking about this a little bit more, I remember trying 3.3.12 (or whatever is the stock one installed) and it was very stable, but can't voice dial on it; 4.1.x etc start to crash so I wonder if there is information out there about the main changes that happened between these versions and so what might be causing it. is it something that has greater dependency on a good wifi connection or something else or some kind of software module that's not meshing right with the HU?

I found this in an old thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48854301&postcount=714
gpmg762 said:
Got Google Now working, sort of anyway. Here's how I did it.
install an old PrebulitGMSCore apk https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2FRr4c4c1g8WVI2YWg3TFZ4MTg/edit?usp=sharing (Google Play Services).
install Velvet apk https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2FRr4c4c1g8X2t2MzQ4MkMyd1U/edit?usp=sharing (Google Now).
this step probably not be needed as I was trying to install Google Home Launcher, install Google Home apk https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2FRr4c4c1g8OU9odi1ZRzJ5cHM/edit?usp=sharing (Google Home Launcher).
launch Google Now, it will detect a new version, update it.
I can use Google Now to launch default Radio and Music app by "play music" and "play radio".
"play disc" not working for me, neither are "navigate home" and "navigate office", they just get normal search results.
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Has anyone gone done the route of changing the PrebulitGMSCore apk but with a more functional Google Now etc?

I'm hesitant to dig into this until Malaysk's next update that will be out soon.

Hello all,
I made some good progress, although with one drawback.
Today I tried v3.6 (I think it was 3.6.16) from apkmirror. And tried it just under ten times with NO crashes. A record for my head unit!!
v3.6 does have calling functionality, and navigate works fine too.
The only drawback seems to be the play music function (I really only need these three functions as everything else I do is quite straightforward from steering wheel controls). It doesn't seem to bring up poweramp and play the music as later versions do....But maybe this is something can be resolved by settings, I need to investigate more when I am back in the car.
Please can others try this and contribute to the thread - I feel I am so close to having this up and running well!

I'm going to continue posting on this thread, although it does somewhat feel like I am talking to myself.
So in the car a couple more times today. Absolutely no crashes on this version of 3.6.16 (what did they change after that which made it no work so well on MTCB HU?). When online, call and navigation work brill, don't know why it refused to play ball on play music.
Messing around with some voice command apps, and still testing this, but this sorts out the play music, and play music and navigate commands work well when offline - but just cant seem to get call to recognise properly when offline - it would be the last missing link for me - think it might be something that can be customised to be fixed though - will update when I figure this last bit out!

I'll play with this soon also.
Dave

I'm swamped right now but I will try to test it later in the week.

Ok, that would be great - was in the car again this morning and seemed to work fine. If someone knows how to make this version work well with the play music command (i.e. find local music and load it in poweramp), that would be great!
The other reason why i went to 3.6 is that it offline voices is meant to work but it isn't. I am wondering if the gapps version needs to also be rolled back to an earlier version for offline voices to work.

Mr Bigglesworth said:
I'm going to continue posting on this thread, although it does somewhat feel like I am talking to myself.
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Please continue to talk to yourself, i'm listening
I hope to give version 3.6.16 a try later today and I'll post my results here.
There are some things I need to figure out to make this HU (almost) perfect and a stable voice command/search certainly is one of them.

I loaded 3.6.16 today and so far no issues. Do you happen to have a chameleon or version history so we can try to bisect this?

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G3 and UP24

Well I went headlong into getting a G3 (from an S4). Love the phone, but my first issue is the UP 24 is NOT supported on this phone.
Weird as I was running 4.4.2 on my s4, so its shouldn't be an OS issue. I even called jawbone to whine, and they said "too bad not supported".
Drag, any ideas? I guess maybe when I can get recovery on here I can try some different BT stacks or something...
Are you saying the app doesn't show up in the market, or it won't find the band? Also are you using Dalvik or ART for your runtime?
This was something I was really wondering about. LG G2 isn't officially supported but seems to work. Hopefully it's an issue of not being available in the play store, and sideloading or device spoofing gets around it.
Bought the G3. Used https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jackpf.apkdownloader to get the app installed (had to use the framework ID from my old phone to get it to work) and it paired and appears to be syncing!
I've spent some time playing with this. What happens is, sporadically (2-3x a day, or every 3 days, there's mo real pattern) the app gets "can't find the band" and can't sync. This then blocks BT from working with anything over BT (earbuds, etc).
A reboot fixes it. But, I have also found if you toggle off BT for about 30 secs, it seems to reset everything. Only once has the toggle not worked for me.
It's weird that once the "alert" icon shows up (can't connect), BT seems stuck for everything, so I guess the version of the BT radio is not happy with UPs constant connections and it get's stuck...
Hope that helps those of you that get this. Just running the stock 851 ATT rom, towelrooted and G3 tweaks (but this started before I rooted or tweaked, and continued after).
Also, sorry on the app question, no clue as I brought it over from a TI backup, never went to the store for it.
tahngarth said:
Bought the G3. Used https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jackpf.apkdownloader to get the app installed (had to use the framework ID from my old phone to get it to work) and it paired and appears to be syncing!
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Can someone help me try to do this? I just bought the UP24 and would like to give it a try. I downloaded apkdownloader but I need the package number or something.
It says, API exception. App not found
Griggs2121 said:
It says, API exception. App not found
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I pulled the apk from a TiB, but it's 37Mb, so I can't post it, if anyone has a way I'm happy to provice.
Griggs2121 said:
Can someone help me try to do this? I just bought the UP24 and would like to give it a try. I downloaded apkdownloader but I need the package number or something.
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I used https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evozi.deviceid&hl=en to get the framework ID off my old phone. I think what happens is using the framework ID from the LG G3 the play store still sees that the Up app is not valid and rejects it. Using the old ID from a working device got around this. After that, searching for com.jawbone.up using the apk downloader should get it pulled down.
viper_insane said:
I pulled the apk from a TiB, but it's 37Mb, so I can't post it, if anyone has a way I'm happy to provice.
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Can you upload it to Google drive or Dropbox?
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tahngarth said:
I used https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evozi.deviceid&hl=en to get the framework ID off my old phone. I think what happens is using the framework ID from the LG G3 the play store still sees that the Up app is not valid and rejects it. Using the old ID from a working device got around this. After that, searching for com.jawbone.up using the apk downloader should get it pulled down.
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So I need to find someone to give me their framework id? Is the app and band still working well for you?
I had the same issue, and I love my band and I knew there had to be a way. The app has bugs, like you won't be able to change the portion size for your food entries and the bluetooth might cut out. If the bluetooth cuts out, I just open the open, open the recent apps and flick it closed. The cannot connect notification goes away and it syncs like normal.
Just go to
apkleecher . com (new to forum, can't post links! sorry. just take out the spaces)
It just downloads directly from Google Play without a Device ID to bypass any compatibility issues.
Just put the UP app link directly from the Play Store into the text field:
https:// play.google. com/store/apps/details?id=com.jawbone.up&hl=en
Generate the link, and then click the white box to download UP by Jawbone 3.1.2 (or whatever version is the newest on the Play Store)
This is all done on the phone itself, just make sure under Security in settings that Unknown Sources is checkmarked before downloading.
terrarret said:
I had the same issue, and I love my band and I knew there had to be a way. The app has bugs, like you won't be able to change the portion size for your food entries and the bluetooth might cut out. If the bluetooth cuts out, I just open the open, open the recent apps and flick it closed. The cannot connect notification goes away and it syncs like normal.
Just go to
apkleecher . com (new to forum, can't post links! sorry. just take out the spaces)
It just downloads directly from Google Play without a Device ID to bypass any compatibility issues.
Just put the UP app link directly from the Play Store into the text field:
https:// play.google. com/store/apps/details?id=com.jawbone.up&hl=en
Generate the link, and then click the white box to download UP by Jawbone 3.1.2 (or whatever version is the newest on the Play Store)
This is all done on the phone itself, just make sure under Security in settings that Unknown Sources is checkmarked before downloading.
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This worked for me! The app and band seem to be working too, thanks! I was just about to go to the store to return it
*edit - Just FYI I had to go to the website and download the apk on my PC. It was just getting hung up on my phone. I then connected my phone to the computer via USB and transferred the apk. It's working great!

Endomondo not syncing my runs

Hi there,
I bought Sony Smartwarch 3 primarily for tracking my jogging while listening to music, because at my new job I can't upload music to the phone or install any apps and I don't have 'private' phone (I've Xperia Z4 Tablet, which is too big to run with).
While the experience of running without phone is great, the standalone Endomondo app usually fails to upload my training to the servers. I've set my Endomondo to use watch's GPS so I just go outside - without the phone - and start tracing the run as soon as GPS finds the fix. After I'm back the watch connects to the tablet, but nothing happens. Out of maybe 6 runs just one uploaded correctly and I have no idea what I'd done differently. Is there a particular order of actions I should follow for this to work? Should I run Endomondo on both the tablet and watch before starting the run, so that they somehow "know" that I expect them to connect afterwards? Are there any other equivalent apps that are more consistent and reliable? I hear good things about Ghostracer but it looks very amateurish
Thanks in advance for any tips!
I tried Ghostracer yesterday and I'm sticking to that - despite hideous talet UI it at least communicates to the user what's going it, i.e. it tells you it will end the recording and save the data and then actually uploads them to the app on the tablet, from where I can export it to file & import to Endomondo. Quite a roundabout way to get there, but at least it seems bulletproof.
Same thing is happening to me, I am desperate. Don't know what else to do. I have already did a factory reset to the watch and the phone, same thing happens.
I sent an email to endomondo support but they haven't answered yet.
I don't want to use another app, because I've been using endomondo for several years already and I really like it.
Any clues?
lcompare said:
Same thing is happening to me, I am desperate. Don't know what else to do. I have already did a factory reset to the watch and the phone, same thing happens.
I sent an email to endomondo support but they haven't answered yet.
I don't want to use another app, because I've been using endomondo for several years already and I really like it.
Any clues?
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Well, there's this site: https://tapiriik.com/ which lets you sync your trainings between various services (e.g. Endomondo, RunTastic, Strava),so what I did I copied my trainings from Endomondo to Strava and connected the Ghostracer app to Strava so it uploads automatically.
Alternatively, if you really don't want to leave Endomondo, you can simply run with Ghostracer and - from the phone/tablet app - export the .gpx or .tpx files and import them to Endomondo (via their web-page, I don't think it's possible via app) which works very good. Also, you can use Ghostracer, have it upload your training automatically to Strava or Runkeeper and then use the website I mentioned above to sync that (automatically, if you're willing to donate few $ to its creator) with Endomondo.
Probably not the answers you were looking for, but hope that helps
I don't think Endomondo will care enough for standalone GPS watches to fix this, which is a shame but that how it works.
hey antic604, thank you so much. I have tried tapiriik, it works great!
I have just received a reply from endomondo, at least they accept there is an issue, I am going to ask for an ETA now.
Endo Fernanda (Endomondo)
Aug 10, 14:05 CEST
Hi,
Thanks for contacting Endomondo Support.
We appreciate your feedback. We are aware of this issue and our developers are currently looking into it.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
Regards,
Fernanda
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I'll use your solution meanwhile.
Thank you!
lcompare said:
hey antic604, thank you so much. I have tried tapiriik, it works great!
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I'm happy I could help
Also, it turns out Tapiriik has an app in Google Play Store, which should make the process even easier
I'm afraid the reply from Endomondo is a template, generic answer to any complaint they get, so I wouldn't keep my hopes up. Would be glad if they fixed it, though
Please post in this thread if you get more info from them.
Totally Offtopic, so sorry at first!
But how did you get endomondo installed on SWR50?
Following the guide on endomondo homepage i get stucked on "live manager" which is named different now ...
Any actual tutorial somewhere?
THX!
kosemuckel said:
Totally Offtopic, so sorry at first!
But how did you get endomondo installed on SWR50?
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There's no separate installation happening on the watch itself - you just install the app on your phone / tablet and it should appear on the watch as well (if it's synced with your primary device).
First i could not see it in mini-launcher. Now I fond it in stock and after endomondo download it showed up in mini as well. Thanks!
kosemuckel said:
First i could not see it in mini-launcher. Now I fond it in stock and after endomondo download it showed up in mini as well. Thanks!
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Great I've yet to check that mini-lanucher myself.

Android Auto

It was suggested I come over here and see what's going on. I've got a 5t with Oxygen.
I've never been able to get Android Auto to load, once. It always says "Something went wrong - Google Play services doesn't' seem to be working right now."
I can't Force Stop the Google Play services, or deactivate it. I've cleared my cache. I don't have a Android Device Management App installed either.
I enrolled and updated to the Google Play services Beta, but haven't still can't force stop it either.
Where do I go from here?
I don't know about this issue.
But I can say I use Android auto daily in my car and have no issues.
I have a Volkswagen caddy 2017 and use ob3
I sideloaded the app because it is not officially released in my country. I use version 3.0.
@dashbarron,
I have the exact same problem . I've also gone the play services beta route with no joy. I've tried literally every possible solution I've come across on the web, still no joy. I can't get past this.
Did you ever get AA to work? How?
Thanks!
-Warren
dashbarron said:
It was suggested I come over here and see what's going on. I've got a 5t with Oxygen.
I've never been able to get Android Auto to load, once. It always says "Something went wrong - Google Play services doesn't' seem to be working right now."
I can't Force Stop the Google Play services, or deactivate it. I've cleared my cache. I don't have a Android Device Management App installed either.
I enrolled and updated to the Google Play services Beta, but haven't still can't force stop it either.
Where do I go from here?
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I don't know if you have used Android auto before, so maybe you really like it and my advise maybe of no use to you. But while it is good to use, I soon reverted back to using split screen, top half for nav and bottom half to easily switch between music or radio or whatever else you want, even set up a YouTube video before you get going if it's something that doesn't require your focus on it, with gestures it's safer than messing around with the complicated controls in my car! And I have the plug in version of Android auto built into the car, I literally only plug it in when I have my daughter's on board so they can call out ok Google for whatever tune they want on. Anyway that's how I roll when driving and I'm driving all day everyday, hope maybe I saved u some time getting it working

Android auto issues?

Anyone else having problems with AA? When I unplug from either of my head units, the phone AA app fires up and music keeps playing on the phone. Sometimes it's just the music that keeps playing in the background, so I have to start the app on the phone to stop it.
Oh, and then in AA Waze will show my car traveling sideways on the screen instead of actually orienting the road top to bottom.
It's working fine for me on the N9860. I have next to the system app version of AA also AA for phone screens installed so I can set preferences for AA on my phone. No display issues at all. I do experience sound routing problems in combination with some sound assistant settings. Multi Sound and Separate App Sound conflict with AA audio routing. You need to keep rhse settings off in Sound Assistant.
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Works Fine for me on My AT&T Note20 Ultra 5G 512GB Snapdragon
Running On SM-N986U Galaxy Note20 Ultra 5G 512GB
https://youtu.be/SXmO8l6iyJs
Damn, I was really hoping it was a known issue.
I have not had the audio issue however I do see that my car is not oriented properly on the map.
Make sure location setting is set for greatest accuracy.
Try clearing the System cache on the boot menu.
Try clearing cache and data if necessary on associated apks .
Is the GPS sensor working properly... check it with maps make sure it's not intermittent.
Yea, if I hop over to maps, it's running correctly. I've uninstalled and reinstalled waze. It also only does it with AA. If I unplug the phone, waze runs fine.
Waze is pretty worthless; it's dependent on Goggle maps running in the background to operate.
Just pretty face with no brains.
Try it in Safe Mode. If it runs correctly, it's a 3rd party apk.
blackhawk said:
Waze is pretty worthless; it's dependent on Goggle maps running in the background to operate.
Just pretty face with no brains.
Try it in Safe Mode. If it runs correctly, it's a 3rd party apk.
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Uhh, what?! They use totally different mapping services.. They're based off open street maps. It will run just fine with maps uninstalled.
Also, android auto doesn't work in safe mode.
barry99705 said:
Uhh, what?! They use totally different mapping services.. They're based off open street maps. It will run just fine with maps uninstalled.
Also, android auto doesn't work in safe mode.
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You can't uninstall gmaps normally... it's running in the background when waze is being used.
When I package blocked gmaps, waze went doa; it needed it.
Works just fine on my phone with maps disabled. Waze doesn't use any code, or services from maps. They're still a separate entity, just owned by google.
barry99705 said:
Uhh, what?! They use totally different mapping services.. They're based off open street maps. It will run just fine with maps uninstalled.
Also, android auto doesn't work in safe mode.
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barry99705 said:
Works just fine on my phone with maps disabled. Waze doesn't use any code, or services from maps. They're still a separate entity, just owned by google.
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Haven't used it in 2 years. I saw this behavior though.
Blocked or disabled? I blocked it so gmaps couldn't run in the background which it loves to do.
Just an update, Waze told me to just lock north up, which kinda sucks as a fix. September update didn't fix the issue.
I have this persistent music issue junt one time, but I just can´t get the notifications in the right language. Don't matter if I set the car and everything on my phone to my native language, it always read the notifications in english
rafafischer said:
I have this persistent music issue junt one time, but I just can´t get the notifications in the right language. Don't matter if I set the car and everything on my phone to my native language, it always read the notifications in english
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This is a know issue with AA and Android 10 that is not affecting only Brazil. Google acknowledged it AFAIK but a fix was never delivered. Not sure if someone with Android 11 that used to have this problem can report if it still happens.
I read somewhere (sorry, can't recall where) that if you change the assistant language to English somehow it will read your messages in the right language in AA. Or maybe it was about changing the phone language to English and keeping the assistant in your language.
May have ended up causing more confusion than helping.
antinun said:
This is a know issue with AA and Android 10 that is not affecting only Brazil. Google acknowledged it AFAIK but a fix was never delivered. Not sure if someone with Android 11 that used to have this problem can report if it still happens.
I read somewhere (sorry, can't recall where) that if you change the assistant language to English somehow it will read your messages in the right language in AA. Or maybe it was about changing the phone language to English and keeping the assistant in your language.
May have ended up causing more confusion than helping.
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I've tried this process of change the Assistant language, but not solved the issue... Maybe Android 11 came to save us :laugh:

Question Someone has problems with the app for the Handle?

I am trying to use the ExternalDevice application to connect the Pro Handle, but the application closes all the time, even in Game Space. Has anyone else had the same problem? Have you found a solution?
There is, you have to download the latest version from the Chinese nubia store. Then uninstall and reinstall. I haven't had a single connection issue since (had tons before) I will try to either post a link to the store later, I can directly upload the APK, if that is allowed here. Hope this helps, I was getting so frustrated with mine, almost gave up on it. Now I'm trying to get a second one for a Complete set up lol
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There is, you have to download the latest version from the Chinese nubia store. Then uninstall and reinstall. I haven't had a single connection issue since (had tons before) I will try to either post a link to the store later, I can directly upload the APK, if that is allowed here. Hope this helps, I was getting so frustrated with mine, almost gave up on it. Now I'm trying to get a second one for a Complete set up lol
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I'll try what you say because Nubia mounted an update that solved the problem but the Handle is not accurate at all (When I move the Stick to the right the character goes down)
Cro22 said:
I'll try what you say because Nubia mounted an update that solved the problem but the Handle is not accurate at all (When I move the Stick to the right the character goes down)
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Hm you are right, seems to fix the issue but I have slight lag problems as well but I thought it was all my bt connections (diabetes equipment like cgm, insulin pump, RedMagic watch, bt headband headphones) so we may need another update. Glad to hear yours is working tho

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