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Each day more and more threads and comments appear regarding the Samsung Note 2, specifically the N7105 LTE version. However, I have yet to stumble across a strong enough thread discussing the cross-carrier compatibility of the N7105 version of the Note 2.
I own the SHV-E250L Korean Model of the N7105/LTE and it works wonderfully - a truly beautiful pho- well, phablet. However, I am concerned now that it might not work in the US when I return home in 8 months. Can anyone FOR SURE confirm or deny this? I know the US has LTE/4G capability across multiple carriers...and isn't the N7105 quadband? Meaning it can support 4 different band frequencies? Are any of these compatible with US 4g/LTE bands?
If I'm going to be limited to 3g in the US with this phone then I will return it and buy either the International or US version or get an altogether different phone that will work both here in Korea and back in the States.
Any one have good information (preferably with sources) that they can offer?
Also, regardless of whether I have to return it or not, I would like to be able to root and un-root the phone to use its full capacity. Well, I have already rooted it using Odin and CWM but now I need the Stock ROM for the N7105 so I can un-root it if I need to return it or use the Warranty. Anyone know where I can find this or can tell me how to un-root/reset the counter?
Thanks all!
Find its specs and match your network bands
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Find its specs and match your network bands
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Thanks for the advice. I found these specs for the N7105:
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Cellular Phone
Cellular Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Cellular Data Links: GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
Secondary Cellular Phone
Dual Cellular Network Operation: Parallel operation
Secondary Cellular Networks: LTE2600 (B7), LTE800 (B20)
Secondary Cellular Data Links: LTE
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So according to this and the information about US Networks I found and cross-referenced with, it looks like this phone WILL work both on 3G and 4G/LTE. Yay!
Anyone see a flaw in my conclusion? Also, anyone know if this version, N7105, comes factory unlocked?
Hi,
I was thinking about getting the N7105 Galaxy Note II but also wanted to make sure that it would work on the 4G networks available in the US. Can I ask where you found the specs for the N7105? I can't seem to find anything absolutely reliable (for example, GSM Arena claims that the N7100 has 4G LTE which I don't think is correct). Wikipedia lists the following bands for AT&T and T-Mobile's 4G networks in the US:
AT&T: 4G LTE @ 700 MHz and 1700/2100 MHz (AWS)
T-Mobile: 4G LTE @ 1700/2100 MHz (AWS)
There are other bands listed for T-Mobile's HSPA+ 3G/4G (1700/1900/2100 MHz), but from what I've heard, this isn't quite as fast as 4G LTE. So I'm not sure how the specs you've listed for the N7105 match up to these purported carrier network specs.
I found somewhere else saying that the AT&T's American SGN2 would be pretty much be identical to the International N7105 except for the addition of a radio for AT&T's special 700 MHz brand of 4G LTE.
-R
bpwsource said:
Thanks for the advice. I found these specs for the N7105:
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Cellular Phone
Cellular Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Cellular Data Links: GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
Secondary Cellular Phone
Dual Cellular Network Operation: Parallel operation
Secondary Cellular Networks: LTE2600 (B7), LTE800 (B20)
Secondary Cellular Data Links: LTE
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So according to this and the information about US Networks I found and cross-referenced with, it looks like this phone WILL work both on 3G and 4G/LTE. Yay!
Anyone see a flaw in my conclusion? Also, anyone know if this version, N7105, comes factory unlocked?
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I'm looking to get this phone in the future. I'd like to clarify what different models there are.
Please correct/add to the following:
International
??
FS180
Korean version
Basebands: ?
Particular differences: ?
F180S - SKTelecom, has DMB, also supports SKT unique SMS format
F180K - Olleh/Korea Telecom, has DMB, using its own Wifi manager with KT security certificates implemented.
F180L - Has DMB, also supports CDMA as well.
LTE band 3/8
LS970
Carrier: Sprint
Basebands (phonearena):
CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 1900 MHz
LTE: 1900 MHz
Particular differences: Notification led on front glass. Non-expandable storage (32GB internal). 13mp camera.
E970
Carrier: ATT
Basebands (phonearena):
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 1900, 2100 MHz
LTE: 700 MHz Class 17, 1700/2100 MHz
Particular differences: Notification led on power button (only flashes every 25 seconds). Expandable storage (16GB internal+16GB microSD). 8mp camera.
E971
Carrier: Rogers
Basebands:
GSM:850/900/1800/1900
UMTS:850/1900/2100
LTE:700/2600
Particular differences: Notification led on front glass. Non-expandable storage (32GB internal). 8mp camera.
E973
Carrier: Bell/Telus
Basebands (bell.ca):
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 1900, 2100MHz
LTE: 700MHz, AWS (1700/2100)
Particular differences: Notification led on front glass. Non-expandable storage (32GB internal). 8mp camera.
why does the japan variant is not a part of this?
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F180S - SKTelecom, has DMB, also supports SKT unique SMS format
F180K - Olleh/Korea Telecom, has DMB, using its own Wifi manager with KT security certificates implemented.
F180L - Has DMB, also supports CDMA as well.
LTE band 3/8
Flyview said:
EDIT: Can someone please move this to General section. Or is it more appropriate here?
E971
Carrier: Rogers
Basebands: ?....+ 2600MHz LTE band
Particular differences: Notification led on front glass. Non-expandable storage. 8mp camera.
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GSM Bands:850/900/1800/1900
HSPA Bands:850/1900/2100
LTE Bands:700/2600
32 gb internal mem
no sd card slot
Ok, so if we wanted the expandable storage on telus, could we import the at&t model and use them, as compatible lte ? And is it easy to import a rom from the att model to the telus model ?
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Thanks guys, updated. What exactly is the "international" version?
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Ok, so if we wanted the expandable storage on telus, could we import the at&t model and use them, as compatible lte ? And is it easy to import a rom from the att model to the telus model ?
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That was partly my reason for making this thread. I'm interested in the ATT one as well. One disadvantage I've found is that the notification led (on the power button) blinks infrequently, apparently only for a second or two every 25 seconds.
i have a e971 but it isnt a rogers phone its an international version =/. But its kinda the same specs, 8mp, 25gb internal space, no sd card,
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i have a e971 but it isnt a rogers phone its an international version =/. But its kinda the same specs, 8mp, 25gb internal space, no sd card,
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Well what carrier is it on? If it's the same specs it's the same specs.
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First off, I hope I am putting this in the proper section. The LG G2 I have is an original Sprint-branded device (LG-LS980), but it has been rooted/modded/flashed to be compatible with T-Mobile and I am hoping for some help with getting the phone to receive T-Mobile's LTE signal, so I wasn't sure what LG G2 section to post this in (Sprint's or T-Mobile's). If this is not the right place, please let me know where I should post it and I will be glad to move it to/re-post it in the appropriate section.
With that stated, I bought this phone from someone off of Craigslist two days ago. It was listed as an "Unlocked LG G2" and when I texted the guy and asked him what carrier the phone was for, he told me it was for T-Mobile; so I believed/assumed it was a T-Mobile LG G2 device that was also unlocked. When I met the guy in person, he was very friendly and gave me time to check out the phone myself and to test my T-Mobile SIM card in it. When I turned the phone on after inserting my SIM card to make a test call, the 'T-Mobile LTE' screen was shown during the startup process, which further led me to believe that it was, indeed, an actual T-Mobile LG G2. So, I bought the phone for $260. After I left and got to use the phone for a while, I noticed that there was no T-Mobile logo on the back of the phone, so I Googled the model number (LG-LS980) and realized that it was actually a Sprint device. After realizing this, I also noticed that the phone only displayed the '4G' logo on the front screen, which led me to believe that it was not picking up an LTE signal (I am not familiar with the LG G2, so I wasn't sure what symbol would be displayed). After logging in with my Google account and downloading/installing the SpeedTest.net app, I ran a few tests and it's definitely not getting LTE speeds; it even seems to be getting relatively-slow speeds for 4G/HSPA+ (around 6Mbps Up/2Mbps Down).
So, my question is this: Can this Sprint LG G2 properly receive an LTE signal with a T-Mobile SIM card? And if so, what do I need to do to make this happen?
For the record, the person who rooted/flashed/modded this phone seems to have done a good job in making it compatible with T-Mobile (for the most part). To my knowledge, everything other than picking up T-Mobile's LTE signal seems to be in excellent working order. The camera works nicely; even on 4G, opening webpages is still fast; the music player works; text and picture messaging work properly; and WiFi-calling is even showing up in the Settings as an option (which, to my knowledge, is exclusively a T-Mobile feature. The phone is even showing up as an LG-D801 in the device's Settings.
I also want to add that there is an icon for 'SuperSu Installer' with a message that reads, "Tap to install SuperSU and root your device," but I have been scared to even mess with this feature. I did click the SuperSU icon and a page opened that showed this: "SuperSu is not yet fully installed - your device is not fully rooted. To finish rooting, the SuperSU GUI needs to be installed. This can be done by instaling it through GooglePlay, or by downloading the flashable ZIP and installing it through TWRP." And there is some more to the message below that, but I did not want to take the time to type every word.
So, do I need to go through the process of "fully rooting" this phone in order to be able to properly receive an LTE signal with my T-Mobile SIM card? Or could I possibly damage the phone by trying that process without knowing what I'm actually doing? Or, is completing the rooting process something that needs to be done regardless, even if it's not going to help with with the LTE issue?
Also, I tried to change the APN settings in hopes of getting LTE to work, but the option to change/alter the APN settings seems to be disabled. Does this likely have something to do with the phone not being fully rooted?
I also want to mention that when I went to check for an update in the 'Update Center,' it is showing an 'Android System Update' that is specifically for T-Mobile and it's apparently 149.6 MB in size. Should I try to download and install this T-Mobile update? Or is this something that should not be done without fully rooting the phone with SuperSU Installer?
Also, for the record, it is currently running Android version 4.2.2, Kernel version 3.4.0, Build number JDQ39B, and Software version D80110c
I apologize for writing such a lengthy post, but I wanted to be thorough and try to give as much pertinent information as I could think of. FYI, the LG G2 I have is a 32GB device. I am considering just trying to trade it for a Nexus 5, Galaxy S4 or HTC One, to someone who knows about rooting/flashing/modding, but I figured I would at least ask if there might be a simple fix for the LTE issue before trying to trade/sell it.
I would sincerely appreciate any help that I get! And if I need to make a donation for the help, I would be glad to do so. Also, I can provide pictures and/or screenshots for any detailed information that I may need to provide to help with this issue. Thanks very much in advance to anyone who tries to help me with this issue!!
If its indeed the Sprint LS980 and not the T-Mobile D801, then you got screwed because the LTE bands are not compatible. File a complaint and get your money back. He probably modded it to enable GSM. If you sell it to a Sprint user make sure everything is back to stock or it may brick during an OTA, which the next person would blame you for.
Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521276
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If its indeed the Sprint LS980 and not the T-Mobile D801, then you got screwed because the LTE bands are not compatible. File a complaint and get your money back. He probably modded it to enable GSM. If you sell it to a Sprint user make sure everything is back to stock or it may brick during an OTA, which the next person would blame you for.
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Thanks for replying. As for what you're suggesting, that the Sprint LG G2 is not capable of receiving T-Mobile's LTE signal because of it not having the necessary LTE bands, are you absolutely sure of this? And if so, do you mean that it will not receive any LTE signal whatsoever with a T-Mobile SIM card? Or that it just does not have the proper bands to detect/receive all of the LTE bands?
As for the phone I have actually being the Sprint LG G2 (LG-LS980) device, I am sure that's what it is, as that is the model number that is on the bottom of the back of the phone. However, as I stated, I bought it from someone off of Craigslist (not eBay), so there is no way for me to file a complaint. However, I think I should be able to re-sell it and get my money back, as $260 seems to be a good/reasonable price for a 32GB model in excellent condition.
sudosurootdev said:
Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521276
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Thanks for the link. I clicked it and checked out that thread, but I was not really sure what it was about. Are you suggesting that I could/should possibly go through the process to try to "Obtain Your MSL, Update PRL, Connect to DFS," because it might enable the phone I have to properly receive T-Mobile's LTE signal? If you would reply to this question and explain to me what good you think trying to go through that process might do for my situation, I would really appreciate it.
By the way, sorry for not replying last night, y'all. I work late-nights and was quite tired after I got home around 6:00 a.m. this morning.
Sprint LS980 uses 1900 MHz, 850 MHz, 2500 Mhz for LTE
2G: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
3G: UMTS2100 (B1)
4G: LTE1900 (B25), LTE800 (B26), TD-LTE2500 (B41)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=5490&c=lg_ls980_g2_td-lte
Verizon VS980 uses the 700 Mhz, 1700/2100 Mhz bands for LTE
2G: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
3G: UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
4G: LTE700 (B13), LTE1700/2100 (B4)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=4726&c=lg_vs980_g2_4g_lte
T-Mobile D801 uses the 700 Mhz, 1900 Mhz, 1700/2100 Mhz bands for LTE
2G: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
3G: UMTS850 (B5), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
4G: LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1900 (B2)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=4810&c=lg_g2_d801_4g_lte
AT&T D800 uses the 700 Mhz, 850Mhz, 1900 Mhz, 1700/2100 Mhz bands for LTE
2G: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900
3G: UMTS850 (B5), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
4G: LTE700 (B17), LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1900 (B2)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=4978&c=lg_g2_d800_4g_lte
Bands are limited by hardware, not software.
Also note the Sprint 1900 Mhz LTE and Verizon 700 Mhz LTE bands are not compatible with the T-Mobile/AT&T 700 Mhz and 1900 Mhz LTE band as they use a different part of that spectrum.
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Bands are limited by hardware, not software.
Also note the Sprint 1900 Mhz LTE and Verizon 700 Mhz LTE bands are not compatible with the T-Mobile/AT&T 700 Mhz and 1900 Mhz LTE band as they use a different part of that spectrum.
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Sorry for quoting the entire post, but I'm at work and on my LG F3 (which has a really small screen), but are you specifically stating that it's physically impossible to get T-Mobile's LTE signal with the Sprint version of the LG G2 because it literally lacks the necessary physical hardware to be able to receive it?
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Sorry for quoting the entire post, but I'm at work and on my LG F3 (which has a really small screen), but are you specifically stating that it's physically impossible to get T-Mobile's LTE signal with the Sprint version of the LG G2 because it literally lacks the necessary physical hardware to be able to receive it?
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Yes, only the AT&T and T-Mobile versions are inter compatible with the AT&T version having one extra band (850 Mhz)
For future reference use PDADB.net for accurate hardware information including sub-models. Its very good.
I wasn't aware that Sprint started using sim cards. Is this a hybrid GSM/CDMA phone? And which bands go with which?
So will this phone work, after unlocking, work with Chinese 3G (Band I 2100MHz) and 4G (Band 41 2500MHz) networks?
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I wasn't aware that Sprint started using sim cards. Is this a hybrid GSM/CDMA phone? And which bands go with which?
So will this phone work, after unlocking, work with Chinese 3G (Band I 2100MHz) and 4G (Band 41 2500MHz) networks?
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Sprint and Verizon's LTE technology requires the use of SIM cards because the device will connect to both the older network and the newer one at the same time. If you yank a SIM card from either carrier's device it will still connect to their CDMA-based network (with 3G technology) but to get their full LTE support it requires a SIM card.
Because of this, Sprint and Verizon devices released since roughly late 2013 have the potential - because they have SIM card slots - of being carrier unlocked. All Verizon devices come carrier unlocked with respect to the SIM card slot now because it was a part of the requirements they agreed to during the FCC bidding process to gain those new frequency allotments back in 2013 - you can go buy any Verizon phone right now, including the Droid Turbo (their flagship phone) and drop a SIM card in it from any other carrier and it'll work just fine without issues. It may not provide LTE support directly because of different LTE band/frequency support so that's what I'll explain below, just for the record, but it WILL work with any GSM SIM card right out of the box.
Sprint, however, wasn't bound by any such requirements and so their devices are not carrier unlocked but sometimes - please note I'm saying SOMETIMES they can be. The Sprint LG G2 is one of those times, and there are two basic ways to do it:
1) Either do all the necessary config/device adjustments to get the SIM card unlocked for use with GSM capabilities (very impractical solution and only useful if you absolutely refuse to use a custom ROM)
2) Use a custom ROM because all the work to unlock the SIM card slot for other carriers is already done for you by the developer of the ROM (or them using code that was ready to go). ROMs like CloudyG2 and others, once installed, offer the ability to use any GSM SIM card in the Sprint G2 without issues.
Having said that, the LTE aspect is where some have issues - Qualcomm "locks down" radio hardware based on the NV (non-volatile) firmware inside it and it's done that way based on the requirements the carrier sets forth. Sprint uses LTE bands (as noted in the post above) that are not directly compatible with T-Mobile's LTE bands - there's no overlap at all; if there were any overlap whatsoever you could feasibly get LTE to work with T-Mobile, but that's not the case with the Sprint G2.
The hardware in the phones is the same (with respect to the GSM capability and LTE falls under that umbrella), it's just that the radio hardware has been "locked down" to only use particular frequency bands. Theoretically it's possible to edit the NV and open up more bands (potentially supporting everything) but that's another thread altogether, literally, and has the side effect of potentially bricking the radio hardware if unsuccessful so people don't even bother with it.
Using the Sprint G2 with T-Mobile will get you HSPA+ capability that'll max out (theoretically) at 42 Mbps which is damned fast, plus HSPA+ offers better signal strength overall than LTE does and better building/structure penetration as well - and better battery life to some degrees (not like it was years ago when LTE hardware and software was truly unoptimized).
When I last had a G2 recently I was pulling about 38 Mbps down and 33 Mbps up in speed testing but I live like 2 blocks away from a T-Mobile cell site here in downtown Las Vegas with line-of-sight to the tower (no obstructions in between) and that's damned fast enough for me and most anyone. LTE is nice but it ain't everything...
Suffice to say if you have a Sprint G2 you're not limited to just using Sprint, obviously - but LTE support will only happen if you use a carrier that overlaps onto the LTE bands/frequencies that Sprint itself uses. That basically rules out any carrier in the US since the remaining carriers of the "big 4" (AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon) all end up reselling their network service to every other smaller carrier or MVNO - the other 3 carriers don't use the same LTE bands/frequencies so you'll have to be outside the US aka non-domestic to get LTE support. The Verizon G2 offers the potential to get LTE on T-Mobile because they do both share LTE Band 4 but it depends on the precise frequencies in use - more than likely you'll still end up with HSPA+ support more than LTE.
That should clear it up a bit for you...
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Next time perhaps take a look at the date of the last post in a thread - this was almost a year old since the last post so... things haven't really changed with respect to the Sprint G2 and LTE on T-Mobile; this info is found in other threads if you do some searching but hopefully you'll understand things better now with the info I provided.
Thanks a lot for all that info. I did check the date and made a new thread as well. I just figured to get more exposure this way.
I understand not much has changed judging by the date but was new to phones capable of CDMA and GSM so wasn't sure how they labeled the bands.
I've looked over the instructions for SIM unlocking and LTE band unlocking but none of those mentioned what bands were for CDMA and which for GSM or if there's any commonly labeled frequencies as the information on CDMA is just not as well laid out in sources I've found.
I remember there being much talk about how iPhone 5s didn't have native support band 41 LTE, which is the only LTE band in China so I'm surprised that there's no talk of use in China of the Sprint LG G2, which seemed to be the only mainstream phone that had band 41 before the Nexus 5 and iPhone 6. Hell, the Galaxy series still doesn't have it. It's also a pain to search for phones with band 41 LTE as China and apparently Uganda are the only countries that have it and sites like gsmarena don't have it as a filter option.
Hola folks!
After finding enough screenshots/video reviews, I am beginning to think that from a hardware perspective the S and L variants are identical (including supported bands), whereas the K is only slightly different from S/L.
Any images of the back cover off on the K models (Olleh) will show "F400 0425 K" indicating the hardware is the "K" variant. (If you watch the review video http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review, you will notice this info up at the top on the backside, right above the camera.) UPDATE: Here is another link with an image http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/#image-4
On the S/L (SK Telecom, LG U+) models, they say "F400 0423 S/L" on the SK Telecom model ("S" variant), and "F400 0425 S/L" on the LG U+ model ("L" variant). You can find images of the "S" model with engadget's review (http://www.engadget.com/gallery/lg-g3-review/2676959/#!slide=2676963), and images of the "L" model with ubreakifix's F400L teardown (http://www.ubreakifix.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ubif-g3-21.jpg).
(Thanks and kudos to the review sites and teardown site for the images.)
As an owner of the F400S, I can tell you that all 3 variants will run on AT&T LTE (as a lot of our LTE is on Band 17 - 700 MHz spectrum). I was able to load my F400S with the TOT and DLL files of all 3 variants (currently waiting on getting it back to the "S" variant once the DLL is posted), and all 3 variants will connect to AT&T with no issues (for those of you that plan on importing like I did).
So for those of you who managed to brick your new G3, as long as you can ADB into it, you can edit your build.prop file with the corresponding korean variant model info, and load any stock image. As @wolfgart has posted a great thread with the TOTs and DLLs, I recommend swinging through there for more info. If you have a K variant, load the K TOT and DLL, and you are fine.
For those of us with S/L variants--with the above info and enough tinkering in the hidden menus of all 3 variants, I can tell you that from a hardware perspective these two models are nearly identical. From a modem/supported frequencies perspective, the S and L variants support the exact same frequencies--meaning, if you bricked your S or L version, you can restore it with an S or L TOT and DLL (after editing build.prop if needed) and you will still get all of your original hardware supported bands/frequencies. This is critical for those of you using LTE Band 5 to connect to your data... (should not be the case for any US AT&T users...).
UPDATE: in the 'Android Development' section, wolfgart's thread with the TOTs and DLLs have been updated to now include the files for all 3 models. So unless you know what you are doing with a build.prop edit, probably best to stick with what came with the phones for those who are new to this stuff.
The main difference between the S/L and K phones in frequency/band support is that LTE Band 8 is supported on the K model only, whereas you will get LTE Band 5 support on the S/L models. All other bands and frequencies (WCDMA/GSM) are the same across all 3 models. All 3 also support LTE Band 17, and will connect to AT&T in the US.
Took me a while to figure this out, but I had a long weekend
Cool! nice to know, thanks for the well explained post
Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
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Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
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Unfortunately, I don't connect to LTE with band 7 so I can't say much on that. However, just based on the hidden menus in both (I am using the L version on my S variant phone at the moment), they both have the same listings of 1,3,5,7 for supported bands.
LTE 700, 850, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 5, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
The above are the fully supported bands on the S and L variants.
The below are the fully supported bands on the K variant.
LTE 700, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 8, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
I don't have the K variant on my device now, but I recall the only band difference is that it supports LTE band 8 (900 MHz) instead of LTE band 5 (850 MHz), but other supported bands are the same. LTE Band 5 is one of the primary bands for both SK Telecom and LG U+ (which partially explains why the two phones have nearly identical hardware, including modem support).
Hope this answers your question. As support for those frequencies are built in (and it makes sense on LG as a mass manufacturer--They can use the same modem and just rebrand it like they did in Korea for the S and L variants).
Why is the S one more expensive than the L?
gsanches said:
Why is the S one more expensive than the L?
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That, my friend, is a question you will have to ask LG and SK Telecom. We sorta see that in the US every so often with "special editions" that aren't really that special and they will add an extra 100ish.
Off-contract, LG U+ is the most affordable right now, with SK Telecom right around $700 USD. With markup and shipping, etc. eBayers are selling it for $750-800.
Also, you have to remember the G3 is a hot commodity even in Korea right now. Had some friends who thought it was funny I got a phone overseas before they even bothered joining the bandwagon.
So though I can't say for sure why exactly it's more expensive, I can definitely say it has to do with the fact that the phone is still only 3 weeks old
And none of those 3 will work on T-Mobile LTE which needs 1700 and 2100Mhz most of time.
There are some spots with 900Mhz support though.
But as much as I want G3, I'll wait for the T-Mo version.
Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much
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Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much
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It looks like you are planning on doing the same upgrade I did. I still have my M7 as my backup , but definitely gotta say I am loving my G3.
That's amazing man...I've been a HTC fan since the Sensation...but currently I feel that they are been left behind...
I'm really sorry, but other brands are offering a lot more for the same price.
The HTC will always win in design and the quality of the phone's body, screen and, of course, sound!...but they are losing in the rest...UI, camera, battery life definitely...it's just sad
Nice to know that you're enjoying your G3...I hope I'll be as happy as you are in a few weeks...and judging by how much I've researched about it...I'm sure I'll love it!!!
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sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?
I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!
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sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?
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From my research, none of the korean models (F400 S/K/L) support FM radio. Instead of an FM radio tuner, they are offered with Korea's DMB tuner, for korean DMB support.
I have only seen DMB function while in Korea and Japan. Anywhere else in the world, you will have to check with local providers, as some countries will charge for DMB as a service (just like satellite television).
Hope this helps
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I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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OK! Thank you
Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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salvador1980 said:
Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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Any of them will do. I would say go for the one that gives you the best price. At this point, enough AT&T users have gotten their hands on all 3 variants. Most can get LTE through band 17 (700 MHz) which is available on all 3 phones.
Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!
kittiyut said:
Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!
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You would have to check which specific band class of 700 MHz the D855 would be capable of connecting to. As I do not have the D855, and specs are varied on the internet right now, I cannot say for sure.
The FCC had ruled four separate band classes to operate on the 700 MHz spectrum in America--Band 17 700 MHz capable modems cannot connect to any of the other 700 MHz band classes and vice versa. (It was claimed that they did not want to have any network interference issues. Carriers purchased the rights to access certain chunks of the 700 MHz spectrum, and they are isolated to those carriers only.)
I am seeing 700MHz (B28) support on D855 models, but I believe that might be related to certain LTE-A rollouts in Europe (meaning it may not be able to connect to current 700 MHz bands in the US (as the US does not have LTE-A networks at the moment) and new band classes are issued for LTE-A (i.e. Band 28).
mikeythedude said:
The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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Does the antenna stand out much? Or is it hidden? Thanks
Can someone tell us the difference between all Nokia 6 2018 models please?
TA-1068
TA-1045
etc...
Is there a specific model for 'Worldwide' like Nexus/Pixel?
Is there a Europe version?
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THANKS!
Very interested in the subject.. Also, if information is available, What models are being sold in what markets...
1045 is the US model.
I'm using one now, I got from eBay. Works great on Cricket, ya know other than it being Cricket. Lol
I know but what's the differences?
I got the TA-1043 model. Ordered it from Bol in the Netherlands and live in Belgium.
What, are, the differences?
nobody knows... it's like the cloud )
Normally it has to do with the modem, bundled apps and charger wall socket type...
Does the US TA-1045 model really have 4GB of ram? Or is it a typo and it has 3GB?
A different wall charger has never changed the model name lol!
The goal of this topic is if some people KNOW the differences between models, not telling what model you have lol
All I know is that I have a TA-1050 model here in the UK and it is perilously close to being 3 months behind with security updates and is still on 8.0 - SIM free and not tied to any carrier.
So much for Android One.
I bought the Chinese version which comes with 4GB Ram and 64GB Memory (TA-1054) .
Sadly i figured out, that the Chinse Version isn't part of the Android One Program.
It seems like a Nokia specialized playstore Custom Rom.
Further im missing the "ZEISS" Brand, which could mean, the Lense was produced by someone else.
But that's just a guess.
Edit: I just realized, that the Display comes with just 320ppi instead of 403ppi
I just got my TA-1045 from walmart. Despite the website saying 4GB, the box itself says 3/32. In settings, it says total memory is 2.9GB.
I just chatted with a support guy from NOKIA, asking for the codes of the non-Chinese (international?) versions. He provided me with the following codes:
Single SIM models:
TA-1016, TA-1050
Dual SIM models:
TA-1043, TA-1045, TA-1068,TA-1089
bsivanov said:
I just chatted with a support guy from NOKIA, asking for the codes of the non-Chinese (international?) versions. He provided me with the following codes:
Single SIM models:
TA-1016, TA-1050
Dual SIM models:
TA-1043, TA-1045, TA-1068,TA-1089
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Thanks!
so the question is, what are the differences between TA-1043, TA-1045, TA-1068,TA-1089...
I saw in ebay and amazon the Nokia 6.1 TA-1068 4GB/64 who sold from US, But with headline :Inertational Stock No Warranty" so maybe the 4GB RAM Dual SIM Inernational / Europ Model is TA-1068.
The bands, by amazon, are:
3G WCDMA B1 / B2 / B5 / B8 ; 4G LTE B1 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B20 / B28 / B34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
Is possible now to pre-order the 3GB from B&H but without model name, with this specs:
GSM 2G GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
GSM 3G/3.5G UMTS: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE LTE: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, 28, 38 Bands
OK thanks.
OMG why so many models Nokia lol
Puppetmaster81 said:
I bought the Chinese version which comes with 4GB Ram and 64GB Memory (TA-1054) .
Sadly i figured out, that the Chinse Version isn't part of the Android One Program.
It seems like a Nokia specialized playstore Custom Rom.
Further im missing the "ZEISS" Brand, which could mean, the Lense was produced by someone else.
But that's just a guess.
Edit: I just realized, that the Display comes with just 320ppi instead of 403ppi
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It' not true, it has the same ppi (401). the only things that change between ta-1054 and others are the android 7.1.1 and frequency bands.
edit: ta-1054 hasn't zeiss lens
Check on Kimovil, i can't post links now
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I just got my TA-1045 from walmart. Despite the website saying 4GB, the box itself says 3/32. In settings, it says total memory is 2.9GB.
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Can you please take a picture of the bands? Maybe it's same as B&H model so 1045 is 3GB dual SIM US model.
nachum37 said:
Is possible now to pre-order the 3GB from B&H but without model name, with this specs:
GSM 2G GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
GSM 3G/3.5G UMTS: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE LTE: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, 28, 38 Bands
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---------- Post added at 05:55 ---------- Previous post was at 05:45 ----------
I'm found this answers:
https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/TxULKW3SZ6SOA9/?source=allQuestionsPage
https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx1BBIFU68UTRL4/?source=allQuestionsPage
So yes, the 1045 is 3GB Dual sim US Model.
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1016 is the 3GB single sim US Model:
https://nokiapoweruser.com/ta-1016-ta-1045-us-bound-nokia-7-6-2018-variants-appear-fcc/
https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-6-...045-confirm-geekbench-canadian-certification/
The bands are need to be like 1045.
1050 it's EU / Global 3GB Dual SIM(?) model.
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...l_sim_td-lte_32gb__new_nokia_6__hmd_nokia_6.1
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-nokia-6-2018-eu#device-profile
https://www.mobosdata.com/nokia-6-2018-ta-1050
The bands are:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
WCDMA: 850, 900, 1900, 2100
LTE: 700, 800, 850, 900, 1700, 1800, 1900, 2100, 2600
TD-LTE: 2300, 2500, 2600
TA-1043 is 3GB Dual SIM model for Russia, Middle East & Asia.
https://m.gsmarena.com/new_nokia_devices__ta1043_and_ta1046_get_certified_in_russia-news-29507.php
https://www.lowyat.net/2018/158422/...oming-to-malaysia-including-the-nokia-7-plus/
https://4pda.ru/devdb/nokia_6_2018
Bands:
GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900), LTE (700, 800, 850, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600), UMTS (850, 900, 1900, 2100)
1089 is the India 3GB Dual SIM.
https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-6-...o-with-april-security-update-list-of-markets/
https://www.onlymobiles.com/mobile/new-nokia-6-2018/2456/black-copper
Bands:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G/WCDMA 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 / 2300 MHz (B40)