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Charging Speeds and Confusion

Hey guys! I've been a long time lurker and finally have decided to come out of the woods and get some help.
I'm looking to order all my accessories today however I want to make sure I'm getting what I need so I don't have to go back and buy different cords.
I guess my first question is: Will a USB C to USB C cable charge faster than a USB A to USB C cable? Or does it all depend on the wall/car adapter?
I was hoping to buy 3 USB C to USB C cable with an extra wall adapter and car adapter. The whole USB C and QC 3.0 discussion has confused me like many others. What do I need? This is what I was looking at getting:
Anker PowerLine USB-C to USB-C 2.0 Cable (3ft): (Can't post links...)
USB C Charger,Tronsmart 30W Dual USB Wall Charger with Quick Charge 3.0 Technology: (Can't post links...)
USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Car Charger with Dual AiPower Ports: (Can't post links...)
Do all of these products seem that they would give me the best possible charging times and be safe to use with the HTC 10? I appreciate all the help!
Thanks much!

I'm using the Aukey in my car and it charges really quickly and the popup for rapid charging comes up.
Can't really recommend the others only the one I have.

spicypixel said:
I'm using the Aukey in my car and it charges really quickly and the popup for rapid charging comes up.
Can't really recommend the others only the one I have.
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So you use USB A to USB C? There won't be a noticeable difference between the charge times if using a USB C to USB C cable?

type a to c "may" limit speeds in some situations. like this car charger you wont get the quick charge from they type A to C but if you use the type c to c in the other port youll get the speeds with say these cables here

The phone can't support two USB specs simultaneously because that's a direct violation of the spec. If you use a C-C cable with a charger that outputs via QC 2.0/3.0 then it will charge at QC 2.0/3.0 speeds. On the other hand if you use a charger that is for the Nexus 5X/6P which outputs using the USB-C charging spec (5V/3A: 15W) then it will charge slowly at 1.5 A not fast charge. This is because it can only support one standard or the other no both, so I recommend just getting QC 2.0 or 3.0 chargers and use whatever port they offer. It could either use a conventional USB-A or the USB-C as long as you use the appropriate cable and the charger spec matches your phone (Qualcomm quick charge), then there won't be any issues.

Pilz said:
The phone can't support two USB specs simultaneously because that's a direct violation of the spec. If you use a C-C cable with a charger that outputs via QC 2.0/3.0 then it will charge at QC 2.0/3.0 speeds. On the other hand if you use a charger that is for the Nexus 5X/6P which outputs using the USB-C charging spec (5V/3A: 15W) then it will charge slowly at 1.5 A not fast charge. This is because it can only support one standard or the other no both, so I recommend just getting QC 2.0 or 3.0 chargers and use whatever port they offer. It could either use a conventional USB-A or the USB-C as long as you use the appropriate cable and the charger spec matches your phone (Qualcomm quick charge), then there won't be any issues.
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Ahhh that makes sense. Perfect response! So I'll plan on getting QC 3.0 chargers and just match the appropriate cables. It will probably come out to be cheaper this way as well.
Thanks again!

DanOpi said:
Ahhh that makes sense. Perfect response! So I'll plan on getting QC 3.0 chargers and just match the appropriate cables. It will probably come out to be cheaper this way as well.
Thanks again!
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Not a problem, I actually wrote up an OP showing the expected charging speeds via different charging methods across the devices that I own. QC 3.0 isn't faster than QC 2.0, but to conclusively prove that I will add a QC 2.0 test conducted with my HTC 10 to my OP linked below. Since I own a Nexus 6P, and S7 Edge so it's easier for me to test and check that which is why I mentioned it in my comment.
Here is the OP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/comparison-htc-10-qc-3-0-charging-test-t3377397

Very cool. I'll check it out.
Any idea why I can't find a solid wall charger for under $25? Anker's is $26. iClever has one for $13 however I've never seen iClever talked about on here.

DanOpi said:
Very cool. I'll check it out.
Any idea why I can't find a solid wall charger for under $25? Anker's is $26. iClever has one for $13 however I've never seen iClever talked about on here.
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Here are some from Choetech and Tronsmart
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019Q...charge+3.0&dpPl=1&dpID=41LzzQEkH5L&ref=plSrch
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015Z...Y200_QL40&keywords=tronsmart+quick+charge+3.0
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01C3...charge+3.0&dpPl=1&dpID=41FGcPJzkDL&ref=plSrch
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019C...charge+3.0&dpPl=1&dpID=31sKiOJkFwL&ref=plSrch

DanOpi said:
Very cool. I'll check it out.
Any idea why I can't find a solid wall charger for under $25? Anker's is $26. iClever has one for $13 however I've never seen iClever talked about on here.
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What about this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Compatible-Samsung-Wireless-Charging/dp/B01B2SD8UW?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A10DKVET0O3A33

I just finished testing the charging speed using a QC 2.0 charger and the results were very interesting. I'll post them up tomorrow, but I don't see what the big deal about QC 3.0 is.

Pilz said:
I just finished testing the charging speed using a QC 2.0 charger and the results were very interesting. I'll post them up tomorrow, but I don't see what the big deal about QC 3.0 is.
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Efficiency. Nothing more, nothing less.
I can't understand where people have gotten the impression that QC 3.0 would somehow be faster than QC 2.0, with phones that is.

lagittaja said:
Efficiency. Nothing more, nothing less.
I can't understand where people have gotten the impression that QC 3.0 would somehow be faster than QC 2.0, with phones that is.
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Qualcomm claimed that it was faster.
Even being more efficient, it should be at least a little faster and produce less heat... both of which are good things.

lagittaja said:
Efficiency. Nothing more, nothing less.
I can't understand where people have gotten the impression that QC 3.0 would somehow be faster than QC 2.0, with phones that is.
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Nitemare3219 said:
Qualcomm claimed that it was faster.
Even being more efficient, it should be at least a little faster and produce less heat... both of which are good things.
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I posted a picture from Qualcomm where they state QC 3.0 is faster. In reality QC 3.0 is not faster, or even better from what I've seen so fsr. I didn't notice a difference in the amount of heat generated, technically the higher the volatge and lower the rate will result in a cooler phone but QC3.0 does the opposite.
Here is the slide from Qualcomm again where they say it's faster.

It's just 10% faster. You will be hard pressed to see these 10% in real life scenarios.
When they are saying it is less heat dissipation they are talking about the charger. The efficiency of power transfer is in the charger.
-= Sent from a parallel universe through a wormhole =-

ro_explorer said:
It's just 10% faster. You will be hard pressed to see these 10% in real life scenarios.
When they are saying it is less heat dissipation they are talking about the charger. The efficiency of power transfer is in the charger.
-= Sent from a parallel universe through a wormhole =-
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It doesn't even charge 1% faster, in fact it's slower. There wasn't a noticeable difference in heat when I tested it. I didn't actually measure the temperature because I don't think an app will accurate depict the temps, but I can to see if it is cooler. QC 3.0 isn't all its hyped up to be unless something changes I don't think it's really all that great.

I tested out of curiosity the charger from the Note4 (QC2.0) and it is fast as well .. but I could not see any noticeable difference. ... Then again, my phone is just 4 days old so the battery is not up to speed (it requires about 5-6 cycles for a Li-Ion to get to the full potential). Maybe you are right, maybe I'm right .. I do not know yet.
However, if I reach a definitive conclusion with my gear I'll post it here.

ro_explorer said:
I tested out of curiosity the charger from the Note4 (QC2.0) and it is fast as well .. but I could not see any noticeable difference. ... Then again, my phone is just 4 days old so the battery is not up to speed (it requires about 5-6 cycles for a Li-Ion to get to the full potential). Maybe you are right, maybe I'm right .. I do not know yet.
However, if I reach a definitive conclusion with my gear I'll post it here.
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I've verified that more or less with my testing so for better or worse we have QC 3.0 if you choose to use it.

[Review] CHOETECH QC 3.0 6-Port USB charging

Just wanted to post a short review on the CHOETECH 6 Port charger. Model Q3-4U2Q
For full disclosure I received a discount on the item if I would post an honest review of the item on Amazon. I still paid a fair price and there was actually no guarantee for them I would even post any review let alone a positive one. Fair enough... It was well timed for me having just gotten my HTC 10 so I thought I would share some of my findings.
I'm currently using it with the Belkin USB-C usb 3.1 cable that can be found at walmart. This charger has 6 USB ports (2 QC 3.0 and 4 smart sensing ports). With my aforementioned cable I get the same if not better charge time than I did with my HTC provided qc 3.0 charger. No heat. No warnings. No funkiness. Which is big given some of the recent hot phone posts I've been reading. One other non-HTC thing that surprised me is that this charger also plays nice (even though they posted a warning it might not) with the Moto X pure 2015. I was able to quick charge both my Moto X pure and my HTC 10 at the same time off the same charger!
I had been wanting to replace my power strip full of chargers with a single block on my night stand for a long time. No longer have trip lines all over the place. Also have a single efficiency power supply now instead of 5 different ones all burning juice whether used or not. If you are looking for this type of solution to replace your many chargers, this one I can recommend.
Product support page here... http://www.choetech.com/Quick-Charger-3-0-6-Port-USB-Charger/

I just want to follow up on @dottat's review. I got my 6 port charging dock over the weekend, and am extremely happy with it. I was able to clean up my mess of cables for charging all of my devices, and the QC3.0 ports work great with my QC2.0 and 3.0 devices.
I was lucky and received a USB C cable with my dock, but that might have been an abnormal case, since most people have been getting micro-USB cables instead.
If you don't have any qc3.0 chargers already, I would highly recommend this over a standard wall plug, as it is well worth the price difference.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

To add to @dottat review I was sent a charger from Choetech at a discount in exchange for my unbiased review.
The adoption of QC 3.0 in flagships this year (aside from the S7/S7 Edge) has created a market for accessories to meet this standard. My HTC 10 supports QC 3.0 thankfully, so this hub will allow my phone to take full advantage of that capability while still allowing my S7 Edge to charge via QC 2.0 over the other QC port due to the backwards compatibility Qualcomm has.
Each of the two QC 3.0 ports are clearly marked with a signature blue to make the easier to find. Choetech also has them on one side so you know exactly where to find them if you need. Along the front you will also find a nice softly lit blue LED indicator light that turns on when the hub is plugged into the wall.
I was able to quick charge both my HTC 10 and S7 Edge via the hub while also having both my Nexus 6P’s charge at 5V/1.5A over the standard smart ports. This is about the limit of the hub given how each QC port can output 18W max, while the smartports each can offer 12W if the device can pull that much power over the 5V port. Given the 18W per QC port while the two phones are charging and 7.5W per Nexus phone from the smart ports that would be about 45W if all of the devices were pulling the maximum amount of power from each port simultaneously. In reality the devices will fluctuate the amount of power, so you shouldn’t have any issues charging multiple devices fast with this hub.
On the build side of things Choetech never disappoints with their solid construction, soft feel finish, and compact design. I own a QC 2.0 version of this same hub that sat on my TV stand for a while before being replaced by the Type-C hub I also reviewed. This particular one is sitting on my desk powering a wireless fast charger for my S7 Edge, my HTC 10, Logitech MX Master mouse, LG Tone Platinum headphones, and anything else that I need to charge.
What’s in the box:
-Choetech 50W QC 3.0 6 port charging hub
-Power cable
-MicroUSB cable
-Hub stand
-Documentation
Overall I think Choetech took an already great charger, and made it better by adding QC 3.0, and a stand thus fixing any small issues people might have experienced before.

I also have this product. I figured I would leave a review when I seen this thread. This this works amazing good with HTC 10. The rapid charging is legit and I would recommend this is your look for a new charging setup. Love all the ports for multi device access.

Also wanted to follow up on @dottat's review. Left a 5 star review over on Amazon. A genuinely good charging hub. I would seriously take this station into consideration. Cheers!

I'm very happy with it. There was a coupon when I got it. I just wish I would have purchased one more sooner with USB C port. When I'm charging in the HTC 10 nearly dead battery It's saved me several times and the quick charge 3.0 is very very quick. I like have spare ports. Solid build quality. Excellent product. Highly recommened.:good::good::good:

It's a great hub. I charge my phone at fasted speeds but mostly I use it for gaming. I have my ps4 controller being charged as I play and phone stay charged with it.
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Just received my unit today and it couldn't have come at a better time! First off the build quality is great, and it has a very nice weight to it. You don't have to worry about it sliding all over the desk either. I only have the HTC usb type C cable right now and it works flawlessly with it, and I have another cable coming from Amazon so we will see how it works with that. It charges the HTC 10 just as fast as the charging brick that it comes with. This desktop charger is perfect for my desk and all of the gadgets I have and although I received it at a 70% discount I wouldn't hesitate to buy it at full price. If you have a HTC 10 and are worried about buying a charger that won't take advantage of the quick charge 3.0 on your HTC 10 then this is exactly what you need. The only con I can think of is that it doesn't come with a USB type C cable but it does come with a nice quality micro usb cable.

I received this charger, and it works great. Small and compact, and charges by devices very quickly. I recommend it highly.

I'd also like to add to this review. I received this desktop charging station at a discount for an honest review. I've gotta say I've been really impressed with Choetech products, and this is no exception. It comes in a clean minimal looking box, open the cardboard and you get the 6 port hub, the power wire, a nice, thick micro usb cable, and even better a nice hub stand, which is a nice thought for those of us who hate having things topple over.
I've tested this on an LG G5 and the HTC 10, the hub has quick charge 3.0, actually has two of them, while the other 4 ports are nice smart ports capable of 2.4A output. It charges at quick charge 3.0 no problem, even using both ports (highlighted by blue ports) at the same time. Meanwhile the other 4 ports can easily charge other devices at basically max speed (2.4a) for those with iPads/tablets and/or other phones like iPhones.
I took this with me on vacation with my family, and it was super convenient being able to basically charge all our devices at the same time no problem. It never got hot, and the stand was a nice touch. I highly recommend it.
Some pics

I have ordered the CHOETECH 6 -port desktop charger for my devices and specifically for the HTC 10 because it supports the latest Quick Charge 3.0 technology .
The unit has a nice size . It is small and does not need much space . It has an output power of 50 watts. Thus, several devices can be charged together easily . By QC3.0 slot it charges my HTC 10 in about the same time as using the supplied AC adapter from HTC . It has 2 Quick Charge ports and 4 normal USB ports to charge the device . Moreover, it remains a USB Type C cable included .
It helps the clutter and the vast amounts of network devices that you already have to be replaced by a single one .
Can recommend to others !

Here is my review for the CHOETECH QC 3.0 6-Port USB Charger that I also left on Amazon.
I tested this Quick Charge 3.0 CHOETECH wall charger with my new HTC 10. I am happy to report that so far this charger has charged my HTC 10 at the same speeds (if not better) than my stock HTC 10 charger. This charger is MUCH better than my stock HTC 10 charger though, because it includes 1 EXTRA Quick Charge 3.0 port and 4 Auto Detect ports! I now have this as my main charger for my HTC 10, work iPhone, N3DS, and Power Bank. I highly recommend this charger!
Pros:
- 2 QC 3.0 Ports + 4 Smart Ports = 6 Total Ports!
- Small enough to carry while traveling
- Frees up space on my power strip now that I can plug most of my devices into this wall charger
- Bonus: Comes with a nice micro USB cable!
Cons:
- None that I have seen so far. I will update my review if I find any
I have received this product for free or discounted price for my unbiased review. This does not affect my review score, as I try to review each item honestly.

Like others on here, I did receive this item for a discounted price, but had no real expectations of it beforehand. Having used it for a few days now, I'm very impressed. It's quite a small unit and only requires a small 2 pin power lead, so you don't really have many trailing cables being plugged into the mains. Been using it charge various devices at the same time and had no issue with charging on any of them. At any one time I've had a Nexus 6P, HTC 10 and an iPad mini plugged in to it and all have charged at relatively the same time it would on a normal charger.
My only downside is that it doesn't support rapid charging for the Nexus 6P, however that would be picking small faults with quite an impressive device.

Disagree with NONE of the above. Wonderful piece of kit.
It'd be perfect if the UK didn't use mains plugs the size of a small family car. Mind, I can hardly blame Choetech for that. Truth is, their UK mains plug is about as small as it can be. If I could find one, I'd attach a picture of a UK plug so those who aren't familiar with it can see just how big it is.
Wait, here's one...

I too got one of those Power Stations for Discounted Price in exchange for review. I compared to other Chargers as a baseline in terms of Current Drawn by the phone.
For the purpose of Test, I used my LG G4 (Qualcomm Snapdragon 808) which supports Quick Charge 2.0. The technology is backward compatible. In order to minimize the variables in the Testing, I have used one Cable for all the Testing across Charges as well as both devices. I used the free Ampere app to measure the Current drawn by the Battery. Screenshots are attached. In addition, I kept the devices Idle for the purpose of testing. This would eliminate any In Use changes of current Drawn.
The G4's Stock LG Charger is Qualcomm Quick Charge Compliant. When I started to charge, the phone's battery was at 34 %. I typically let the battery die to about 5 to 8% before plugging in. But in this case I didn't want Android Battery Saver to kick in and throttle CPU. So I plugged in at 34 %. When plugging into Quick Charge Port, the Max Current was registered at 1000 mA. This was same as the LG Stock Charger. I also compared against another Charger that was not Quick Charge as well as a 4th one that was Quick Charge as well. The Non-Quick Charge charger registered 780 mA.
Conclusion - With the Quick Charge Port, the current drawn is in line with the LG Stock Charger. However the one one for Normal port predictably drops down in comparison. Also at lower levels of the battery, Current drawn from the Quick Charge Port is much higher, just like in case of Stock Charge. However it drops to lower values as Battery nears completion. The current from Normal port nearly remains the same irrespective of battery levels.

Just going to give my thoughts on this charger.
The charger seems to be well made, and has plenty of power to support multiple devices charging simultaneously.
Testing with my Nexus 5X and USB Doctor, I get just under 1.9A and just over 5V which about what is expected.
Tests on the QC3.0 compatible Axon 7 results in the much faster quick charging which is expected as well.
So overall, the charger does it's job.
What surprised me the most was the little things they added to make the product feel more premium then it's competitors. The charger is encased in a soft plastic that has a nice tactile feel. It also comes with a nice stand and a USB A-C cable. The LED on the charger is a soft glow instead of the blinding glare that you often see on other electronics.
Given the cost, it's probably one of the best bang for buck charging stations compared to it's competitors. I definitely recommend it if you're looking for a USB charging station with QC3.

I bought one of these new off of ebay and I"am using it with my unlocked Htc 10 I have a question, isn't your Htc 10 supposed to pick this up as a quick charger ? I see the specs list 2 ports are 3.0 and I tried all the ports and my unlocked 10 does not show rapid charger connected when I plug it in to any of the 6 ports ? I do have a CHOETECH 30 watt 12 volt car charger and when I plug it in my 10 does show quick charger connected but it does not for this 6 port 50 watt charger ? Anyone have theirs show as quick charger connected when plugging in to any of the 6 ports on this charger ?

M9guy said:
I bought one of these new off of ebay and I"am using it with my unlocked Htc 10 I have a question, isn't your Htc 10 supposed to pick this up as a quick charger ? I see the specs list 2 ports are 3.0 and I tried all the ports and my unlocked 10 does not show rapid charger connected when I plug it in to any of the 6 ports ? I do have a CHOETECH 30 watt 12 volt car charger and when I plug it in my 10 does show quick charger connected but it does not for this 6 port 50 watt charger ? Anyone have theirs show as quick charger connected when plugging in to any of the 6 ports on this charger ?
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The top 2 ports are quick charging. You need complaint cables also

afuller42 said:
The top 2 ports are quick charging. You need complaint cables also
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So your htc 10 shows quick charger connected when you plug it in to one of the quick charge ports ? Mine does not and the same cable when used with my oem Htc quick charger it does show quick charger connected. Maybe mine is defective then ?

M9guy said:
So your htc 10 shows quick charger connected when you plug it in to one of the quick charge ports ? Mine does not and the same cable when used with my oem Htc quick charger it does show quick charger connected. Maybe mine is defective then ?
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Yeah I shows for me, using it as I type. Also in a few pictures in previous posts people have screens of it displaying

My biggest concern... USB-C

I've got a lot of devices that use micro usb, and several quick charge adapters and hubs.
From my understanding the OP3 will only quick charge when using the specific charger and cable that comes with it.
Now I'm wondering if I'll no longer be able to charge while driving and using GPS... only true quick charge seems to catch up to that kind of drain.
Anyone have an idea how this might work?
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I too heard that only its own charger will charge it, but with root and custom kernels I can only imagine it'll get open to any usb-c cable

It would still charge with any cable but not at "Dash" rate!

OnePlus AMA on Reddit they say there are Power Management chips built into the Chargers so doubtful of it being opened up to any USB-C cable at Dash Charge rates.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/4o308u/oneplus_ama_oneplus_3dition/

tal123 said:
I too heard that only its own charger will charge it, but with root and custom kernels I can only imagine it'll get open to any usb-c cable
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Nope not true at all. Any charger with a USB-C cable will charge this phone. Confirmed by Andrew on Android central

I submitted a question on what kind of usb type C connector they used. I'm wondering if they circumvented the "official" type C connection in order to implement their dash charging tech.

Get the £25 Car Charger that will stop problems with drain.
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Okay, reading through the thread, I feel like I can give you some definitive answers, and maybe solutions as well.
1) The Dash charging management IS offloaded to the charger. This means that only a charger with the built in functionality will trigger Dash charging safely. However, they WILL be selling accessories for cars, walls, etc. Might be available now. Keep checking, and if you're really curious you can call them and find out if they have any plans for the above.
2) ANY USB-C cable will charge the device, but not at QuickCharge/Dash speeds. This isn't a matter of triggering it in the device via software; the device is missing the hardware to make this work without the proper chargers. So it WILL charge, but at normal speeds.
(That being said, I ADVISE AGAINST using any charger that's not branded for the device. These things can and have caught fire and gone boom, and there's a reason they test the **** out of them before releasing them into the wild. The kid in China making $2/hr does not get paid enough to care if you die, so that's your responsibility.)
3) The inclusion of quickcharging means you can get to a destination with a plug and be reasonably charged within an hour. Unless you're a trucker, you'll probably just need to carry a charger around with you if it becomes THAT much of an issue, or keep one at your destination (I do this with my HTC 10, since i only have one plug. Works fine, lasts overnight and the 1 hr train ride to work.)
Hope this helps.

I have a nexus 5x that has usb-c with no issues. I use the stock power brick to charge and bought a respectable anker usb to usb-c cable for my pc. Can use that to adapt to my car charger to. You shouldnt have any issues. When my op3 gets here ill still use the same anker cable.

I've been using the Anker 4.8A / 24W car charger for at least a year and have (quick charged) my Note 4, LG G4, Moto G, and other devices without any problems. But I've never owned a USB-c device, so I'm weary about using it.
I honestly don't want to spend another $100 on an extra adapter, cable, and car charger just to make it a little more convenient!

Well, while it is type C, and can charge at 2.1amps, it is also wise to understand the factory charger and cable are capable of so much more. It is essentially OPPO's VOOC, which takes the heat out of the device into the charger and pushes about 20 watts, even while the phone is active.
The below video (i came across) has a great comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAS76EZ87dc

I don't wanna start new theme. So quick question. Does this usb-c support any hub with hdmi, full usb 3.0 (or2.0)and usb-c charging?

Keep in mind USB-C is the new standard, everything next year will be USB-C. So whats the difference between spending $100 on new chargers now or $100 next year when it is the only choice you have?
Also a quick google-foo shows there are several USB-C to HDMI/USB/USB-C adapters

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Nope not true at all. Any charger with a USB-C cable will charge this phone. Confirmed by Andrew on Android central
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Thanks for that info. I have to look that article up. I just wonder will is have USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 to Rapid Charge. I now know that not every smartphone that has a USB-C port rapid charges. Neither my Nextbit Robin nor HTC 10 do, and I later found out they weren't USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 compliant.

Not sure why you refer to USB-C to HDMI or DP but OP3 does not have video out support.
Think I'll just take the hit on my wallet and buy a spare Oneplus dash charger. I'm slightly annoyed they went for a protected system, when Apple did it we were unhappy, so far I've not seen the community complain about this new Oneplus 'feature'.

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Not sure why you refer to USB-C to HDMI or DP but OP3 does not have video out support.
Think I'll just take the hit on my wallet and buy a spare Oneplus dash charger. I'm slightly annoyed they went for a protected system, when Apple did it we were unhappy, so far I've not seen the community complain about this new Oneplus 'feature'.
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I was going to complain, but then I did the research on DASH/VOOC and realized it is best in class, better than anything on the market to date. Quickly Charge with little heat... I'll pay 30 for a 2nd charger. And if I am in a bind, I'll just use normal USB C and suffer as I do now with my 1+1.
My only grr moment is seeing a car charger is $30.

PryvateiDz said:
Thanks for that info. I have to look that article up. I just wonder will is have USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 to Rapid Charge. I now know that not every smartphone that has a USB-C port rapid charges. Neither my Nextbit Robin nor HTC 10 do, and I later found out they weren't USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 compliant.
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sorry did not see this. the oneplus 3 charges at a much slower speed using the stock nexus 6p charger. i checked

I use the dash charger at home and a standard 2.1A Capdase Power adapter in the car and a 2.1A Capdase Wall Adapter at work. Obviously only the Oneplus Dash Charger Charges at lightning speeds. But to be honest.the other chargers also do faster than normal charging. Im comparing from my oneplus 2 that one used to take forever to charge. I get a full charge with the dash charger in say abt 45 to 50 mins. And with the normal charger in about 1hr 30 mins. Which is still quite fast IMO. Oneplus 2 used to charge completely in about 3 hours. Im using the oneplus 3 cable with the Dash charger. The Oneplus 2 Cable in my car and an UltraProlink USB to Type C cable at work.
Tldr. Dash charger works super fast. Other normal chargers work just fine.

jerflash said:
sorry did not see this. the oneplus 3 charges at a much slower speed using the stock nexus 6p charger. i checked
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Thanks for checking. Excuse my lateness. I had a feeling that would be the case because it charges severly slower with my USB-C Rapid Wall Chargers.
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Angadadlakha said:
I use the dash charger at home and a standard 2.1A Capdase Power adapter in the car and a 2.1A Capdase Wall Adapter at work. Obviously only the Oneplus Dash Charger Charges at lightning speeds. But to be honest.the other chargers also do faster than normal charging. Im comparing from my oneplus 2 that one used to take forever to charge. I get a full charge with the dash charger in say abt 45 to 50 mins. And with the normal charger in about 1hr 30 mins. Which is still quite fast IMO. Oneplus 2 used to charge completely in about 3 hours. Im using the oneplus 3 cable with the Dash charger. The Oneplus 2 Cable in my car and an UltraProlink USB to Type C cable at work.
Tldr. Dash charger works super fast. Other normal chargers work just fine.
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That's great, It takes me about 70-72 minutes for a full charge from 0-100%. On top of the speed, I really appreciate that it doesn't overheat. I feel more confident with any smartphone that doesn't overheat while charging.

what is your favorite fast charger for the le max 2?

Hello guys,
as the title already says I'd like to know what is your favorite charger for the Le Max 2?
Do you guys all think that the OEM charger from LeEco is the best considering the charging speed or did you find even faster solutions?
Curious for your answers!

ANY qc 3.0 charger, i suppose

miskokupuje said:
Hello guys,
as the title already says I'd like to know what is your favorite charger for the Le Max 2?
Do you guys all think that the OEM charger from LeEco is the best considering the charging speed or did you find even faster solutions?
Curious for your answers!
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Dear collegue. I am yet waiting for my X822. Maybe you could give me some information how long does it take you to fully charge your X820 from 0% and are you satisfied?
regards Olek

If the phone is off, I need about 1h30min. to full charge it when it is not in quick charge. First time I used QC and the phone heated up so that's why I know use the normall method.

For me it takes 1h20min with phone on and the capacity of the battery is correct measured with small USB tool. Fast charging is sometimes 8V and 2.5 A.
Wysłane z mojego Le X822 przy użyciu Tapatalka

got the X822 aka the grey version in transit, couldnt resist it at 222US, ewen thow im not in the market for new mobile, allready pretty satified with the p8max that i like a lot and that dont got any quickcharge tech at all afaik, other then just plain 1.9amp charge cycle., according to my YZXstudio1270 meter, but the 4300mah takes here around 2.15 hour to fill, but slowing down massive the last 5 to 10% like the norm.
that tempo is fine by me, but have also purchased the Vinsic P3 terminator with QC and type C in & out. intended for the X822. seemed reasonable at 28US and with product-specs that shouldnt be to fare for real-world according to reviews.
JUst wondering if you can trick QC3.0 trigger on other devices, got an relative old usb trigger for QC, but no QC phones or at least chargers to check if 9v and 12v can be optainable and be used for ones 12v coreM tablet, just like that and push of an button..
anyway certainly looking forward for my first entry into my first QC device Lemax2 X822 and not least typeC.. LeMax2 lookzs wicked in grey. .:good:

DaneLaw said:
got the X822 aka the grey version in transit, couldnt resist it at 222US, ewen thow im not in the market for new mobile, allready pretty satified with the p8max that i like a lot and that dont got any quickcharge tech at all afaik, other then just plain 1.9amp charge cycle., according to my YZXstudio1270 meter, but the 4300mah takes here around 2.15 hour to fill, but slowing down massive the last 5 to 10% like the norm.
that tempo is fine by me, but have also purchased the Vinsic P3 terminator with QC and type C in & out. intended for the X822. seemed reasonable at 28US and with product-specs that shouldnt be to fare for real-world according to reviews.
JUst wondering if you can trick QC3.0 trigger on other devices, got an relative old usb trigger for QC, but no QC phones or at least chargers to check if 9v and 12v can be optainable and be used for ones 12v coreM tablet, just like that and push of an button..
anyway certainly looking forward for my first entry into my first QC device Lemax2 X822 and not least typeC.. LeMax2 lookzs wicked in grey. .:good:
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Where you found grey version for 222$?

Schumi_wk said:
If the phone is off, I need about 1h30min. to full charge it when it is not in quick charge. First time I used QC and the phone heated up so that's why I know use the normall method.
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You are sure that the quick charge is actually off.?
when checking on mine X822 and turning the knob in setting < battery < quick charge' to not active.
it still display the same voltage and above +6v to around 9v dynamic.. (its the same when the phone is off)
its like the "quick charge off function" doesnt do anything at all. (am on stock X822 assume its 16s EUI'build)
if you got an usb-meter, try to measure if the voltage actually stays around usb 5v level when turning the quick charge off. (mine it doesnt on stock QC charger)
// digitalnasarma it was on AliE ref CB.

http://www.banggood.com/Qualcomm-Ce...ith-Power3S-Tech-p-1047935.html?rmmds=myorder - CHARGER
http://www.banggood.com/BlitzWolf-3...3ft1m-Data-Cable-p-1051395.html?rmmds=myorder - CABLE

DaneLaw said:
got the X822 aka the grey version in transit, couldnt resist it at 222US, ewen thow im not in the market for new mobile, allready pretty satified with the p8max that i like a lot and that dont got any quickcharge tech at all afaik, other then just plain 1.9amp charge cycle., according to my YZXstudio1270 meter, but the 4300mah takes here around 2.15 hour to fill, but slowing down massive the last 5 to 10% like the norm.
that tempo is fine by me, but have also purchased the Vinsic P3 terminator with QC and type C in & out. intended for the X822. seemed reasonable at 28US and with product-specs that shouldnt be to fare for real-world according to reviews.
JUst wondering if you can trick QC3.0 trigger on other devices, got an relative old usb trigger for QC, but no QC phones or at least chargers to check if 9v and 12v can be optainable and be used for ones 12v coreM tablet, just like that and push of an button..
anyway certainly looking forward for my first entry into my first QC device Lemax2 X822 and not least typeC.. LeMax2 lookzs wicked in grey. .:good:
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Hello. Has anybody understand what this guy is writing. He always write muach but I cannot get any clue. Get off with your YZXStudio but just say how values you can achieve charging Le 2 Max with Vinsic Powerbank.

I also ordered the blitzwolf charger and cable.
Gesendet von meinem P9000 mit Tapatalk

We just need a qualcomm quick charge 3 compatible charger right?

Ugreen

is the adapter which was included in the package not quick charge 3.0 ?

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is the adapter which was included in the package not quick charge 3.0 ?
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According to qualcomm, it is. My le max 2 shipped with charger EQ-24BUS.
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
I'd like a charger for night-time charging. Does anyone know if there are ill effects by leaving your phone on quick charge for extended periods and doing so daily?
And would one risk damaging this phone by using any other 'regular' charger?

Any charger should be safe, just make sure the cable you use has Pullup resistor of 56kΩ, without that 56k chip all kinds of stuff can go wrong. usb A to usb C is a really bad setup and you'll need that chip for protection..

Thanks castuis. Best thing I learned today This (and this thread w/charger links) is good to have.

So Which charger and cable are the best for the price? Original or something else. And where to buy with shiping to EU?

https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/s0Inv
This is by far the best way to buy cables and chargers. You will learn way more than you ever wanted about USB accessories.
I bought the multi pack of Orzly cables , they are the best, relatively cheap... Sturdy.... And won't burn up your phone/house.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+BensonLeung/posts/5kADUwQKhY9

Supertacomonkeyexplosion said:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/s0Inv
This is by far the best way to buy cables and chargers. You will learn way more than you ever wanted about USB accessories.
I bought the multi pack of Orzly cables , they are the best, relatively cheap... Sturdy.... And won't burn up your phone/house.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+BensonLeung/posts/5kADUwQKhY9
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Right, but those links mostly focus on USB C standard, not QuickCharge 3.0, which I believe technically violates USB C standards. I'd still suggest sticking to cables confirmed to have the correct pull-up resistor, and if you want to use USB power delivery rather than QuickCharge technology you can also stick to chargers and power banks from that list. I think QuickCharge 2.0/3.0 will still charge faster than USB power delivery though, in which you probably won't find them on that list.
In any case, I bought an 1 port Aukey QuickCharge 3.0 car charger and it seems to work well to charge up to 4 amps. I also bought an Aukey 10000 mAh QuickCharge 2.0 power bank, and it too seems to charge my phone at up to 4 amps. Both were bought from Amazon Canada. I use them either with the cable that came with my phone or good micro USB cables and Tronsmart Micro USB to USB C adapters (which have the appropriate pull-up resistor.)

Compatible chargers

I come from a Nexus 6P that also had a USB C port. Today I needed to charge my phone and the 6P charger was next to me. But, knowing all the issues there are/were with USB C, I decided to search before using the charger and I found this article:
http://www.androidcentral.com/my-htc-10-hates-pixel-c-charger
After reading this article, I found some threads speaking about this and decided that I would stick with the official charger only.
But, I got curious. When this information came out, the phone was pretty new. Were there any new findings regarding this in the meantime? Is it really mandatory that I only use the official charger unless I want my phone to turn into a Note 7?

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I come from a Nexus 6P that also had a USB C port. Today I needed to charge my phone and the 6P charger was next to me. But, knowing all the issues there are/were with USB C, I decided to search before using the charger and I found this article:
http://www.androidcentral.com/my-htc-10-hates-pixel-c-charger
After reading this article, I found some threads speaking about this and decided that I would stick with the official charger only.
But, I got curious. When this information came out, the phone was pretty new. Were there any new findings regarding this in the meantime? Is it really mandatory that I only use the official charger unless I want my phone to turn into a Note 7?
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Google does not support Quick Charge technology forced by Qualcomm. They go with proprietary USB Power Delivery. So no wonder Google charger does not work with QuickCharge enabled phones.

I think HTC is to blame here though. They should have gone with USB C standards, not Qualcomm's.
So, we should stick with only the official charger I guess?

You can basically use any charger but just to be on the safe side I would stay away from the USB-PD chargers. USB Power Delivery and Qualcomm Quick Charge differ quite a bit.
"Any charger" being anything that's a basic 5V USB charger whether it's a 1A or 1.5A or 1.8A or 2A or 2.4A... Or any Quick Charge 2.0 or Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
And if you want to be extra safe, only buy chargers from reputable brands and in the case of Quick Charge chargers, pick one from the certified list.
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list (PDF)
If you come across a QC charger that's not on the certified list, you can ask yourself: has the manufacturer certified any other products? If they have, you're pretty much good to go. If they haven't, well ask the manufacturer why they haven't certified any QC products they make. Another good question for a charger manufacturer would be to ask what power controller are they using in that product? If the power controller is certified then, well, that's that. I'd say you're good to go as the power controller is the brains of the whole operation.
I personally have a Tronsmart CC2TF charger in our car, it's not on the certified list but they have certified a dozen different accessories in the past so I'm not even slightly worried. They make good products.
P.S. @cavist Qualcomm doesn't force anything. If an OEM doesn't want to use Quick Charge on their device then they will not use it. Whoopdy doo, big deal.
Also USB-PD is non-proprietary, royalty-free spec in contrast to the proprietary, royalty-free Quick Charge spec.

P.S. @cavist Qualcomm doesn't force anything. If an OEM doesn't want to use Quick Charge on their device then they will not use it. Whoopdy doo, big deal.
Also USB-PD is non-proprietary, royalty-free spec in contrast to the proprietary, royalty-free Quick Charge spec.[/QUOTE]
I mismatched the words and meaning, thanks for correcting this. As for forcing issue, I meant that almost every device with Snapdragon with QC is using that feature and the company is advertising their power delivery standard which anybody would expect opposite to Google which is relying on approved USB PD specification. It is strange that so many big companies choose the QC and not proper USB PD in its place while having a free hand in choosing the charging standard.