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It seems like all of the of the carriers have released the LG G4 locked to the carrier, but where can I purchase it unlocked, so that I can switch between carriers?
Does Best Buy sell it unlocked?
I'm in South Florida, USA.
Thank you.
Best place so far, and several have got them from this seller on ebay here at XDA
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-G4-H...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4196721570
Looks pretty legit, do you have a link to satisfied customers on XDA?
Thank you for the link.
Acill said:
Best place so far, and several have got them from this seller on ebay here at XDA
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LG-G4-H...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item4196721570
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He is selling the Asian version.
The only one with an unlockable bootloader (right now) is the EU version. (if that matters to you)
I suppose I'm confused about the differences. I'd like to be able to root/unlock the bootloader - which will allow me to install custom ROMs/modifications?
But my main concern at the moment is being able to switch carriers - for example from Sprint to T-Mobile.
I dont think you can go from sprint to t-mobile. Sprint is CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM
Also good to know the 815 isnt universal, had no idea. WAY to many SKUs on this phone!!
The Asian version at that link will run on T-Mobile, AT&T or any other GSM provider just fine. It won't run on Sprint or Verizon.
I have an unlock one up gor sale on swappa. Check for Fidelio_o
No one is selling an unlocked version. An unlock is not even available (for the US variants).
I got the unlocked version from that eBay listing. Using it on AT&T. Love it.
Does 815 have quick charging?
Does anyone know if 815 model comes with quick charging?
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Does anyone know if 815 model comes with quick charging?
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Im using my anker quick charger and it works just fine.
B&H Photo will have them around June 20. $629 for non-leather, $699 for leather.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1155900-REG/lg_lg_h815_32gb_blk_g4_h815_32gb_unlocked.html
That's one of the questions I also have. If I buy the unlocked version will it be compatible with both AT&T & T-Mobile. And by compatible I mean will I get full 4G LTE speeds while using on either carrier. I currently have a unlocked branded T-Mobile HTC One M8 but I don't get AT&T's LTE when I put in one of their SIM cards.
gtg465x said:
I got the unlocked version from that eBay listing. Using it on AT&T. Love it.
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I call bull****. An unlock is not even available right now.
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I call bull****. An unlock is not even available right now.
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Go ahead, call it. Hope it makes you feel better.
It's not an AT&T branded model that was unlocked after purchase. It's a factory unlocked model. As in, not carrier branded, was never locked to begin with so didn't need to be unlocked.
See here:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/191577825455?nav=SEARCH
Bootloader unlock is available for the h815 but you just blew your warranty if anyone is selling g4s with unlocked bootloaders i would be careful as there is no warranty lg has already stated once you unlock the bootloader your warranty is blown.
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Bootloader unlock is available for the h815 but you just blew your warranty if anyone is selling g4s with unlocked bootloaders i would be careful as there is no warranty lg has already stated once you unlock the bootloader your warranty is blown.
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Dude, I have an H815. The bootloader is not unlocked. Factory unlocked refers to the phone not being locked to a specific carrier, not the bootloader. It works on AT&T and T-Mobile and any GSM carrier I want. And I didn't have to do any unlocking myself to get it carrier unlocked. It came that way from the LG factory, hence the term "factory unlocked". LG sells this model that way. Warranty in tact.
here http://www.handtec.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?order=most_viewed&dir=desc&cat=0&q=lg+g4
real EU variants
Ok I know that just flicked through the thread and caught some one calling BS about not being able to buy unlocked as I bought mine direct from lg and it's unlocked, by not reading from the beginning I surmised it was about the boot loader.
Whats up guys guys? So im definitely buying this phone, but problem is im on ATT. what really is the difference between Unlocked vs dev edition from HTC.com? i like to use RUUs to update software and occasionally wipe my phone clean after so many ROM installs. on my M9, the unlocked international version, there was only updated available through "update phone" section in settings. the DEV edition allowed me to go on HTC.com and download the RUU and update that way.
So what is truely the difference between unlocked/international and dev?
When you say dev edition.. I'm not sure what you're talking about. As the only thing currently available is an unlocked phone which works on att and tmobile. It's basically a dev edition.
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Whats up guys guys? So im definitely buying this phone, but problem is im on ATT. what really is the difference between Unlocked vs dev edition from HTC.com? i like to use RUUs to update software and occasionally wipe my phone clean after so many ROM installs. on my M9, the unlocked international version, there was only updated available through "update phone" section in settings. the DEV edition allowed me to go on HTC.com and download the RUU and update that way.
So what is truely the difference between unlocked/international and dev?
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There is no "Developer Edition" for the 10, only an "Unlocked" version. "Unlocked" in this case does not mean bootloader unlocked, it means carrier unlocked. There was a "Developer Edition" AND "Unlocked" version for the M9 and older devices, the difference being that "Developer Edition" came with an unlocked bootloader AND carrier unlocked. The "Unlocked" version comes only carrier unlocked but NOT bootloader unlocked. However, the bootloader on "Unlocked" devices CAN be unlocked through HTC Dev bootloader unlocking program.
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There is no "Developer Edition" for the 10, only an "Unlocked" version. "Unlocked" in this case does not mean bootloader unlocked, it means carrier unlocked. There was a "Developer Edition" AND "Unlocked" version for the M9 and older devices, the difference being that "Developer Edition" came with an unlocked bootloader AND carrier unlocked. The "Unlocked" version comes only carrier unlocked but NOT bootloader unlocked. However, the bootloader on "Unlocked" devices CAN be unlocked through HTC Dev bootloader unlocking program.
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yea i was talking about my M9 between those devices. on the M9, both the international and dev edition used different firmware. for this international HTC 10 device, where would i be able to get RUU's to update it? for the M9 international, they were not offered directly through HTC.
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yea i was talking about my M9 between those devices. on the M9, both the international and dev edition used different firmware. for this international HTC 10 device, where would i be able to get RUU's to update it? for the M9 international, they were not offered directly through HTC.
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The unlocked US version (2PS650000) is different than the international version (2PS620000). They are actually different models. For past devices, HTCUSA has posted the RUUs for unlocked US devices on their rom update web page:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html
HTC International/EMEA typically does not post RUUs for their devices. That being said there are websites where leaked RUUs are always posted, however, they usually require a subscription.
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The unlocked US version (2PS650000) is different than the international version (2PS620000). They are actually different models. For past devices, HTCUSA has posted the RUUs for unlocked US devices on their rom update web page:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html
HTC International/EMEA typically does not post RUUs for their devices. That being said there are websites where leaked RUUs are always posted, however, they usually require a subscription.
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ok so now my question is, is it better to get the international version or the USA unlocked version? i plan on traveling to countries outside the US, but want to try and stay on ATT as much as possible,
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ok so now my question is, is it better to get the international version or the USA unlocked version? i plan on traveling to countries outside the US, but want to try and stay on ATT as much as possible,
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Personally, I would go for the US unlocked version if for no other reason than warranty issues. To get a warranty repair on the international device you would have to send it overseas. Plus the international version is not sold in the United States so you would have to import it and pay taxes on that. Finally, that is the one that you know will have all the necessary radio bands for AT&T to work properly, as HTCUSA has tested the device on AT&T network.
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Personally, I would go for the US unlocked version if for no other reason than warranty issues. To get a warranty repair on the international device you would have to send it overseas. Plus the international version is not sold in the United States so you would have to import it and pay taxes on that. Finally, that is the one that you know will have all the necessary radio bands for AT&T to work properly, as HTCUSA has tested the device on AT&T network.
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ok, but i am going to be spending some significant time out of country, idk where 100% yet, but i would like my phone to work on their radios if possible. countries like Japan....
Quadrider10 said:
ok, but i am going to be spending some significant time out of country, idk where 100% yet, but i would like my phone to work on their radios if possible. countries like Japan....
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It's an unlocked device it should work on most GSM Networks as long as you have a SIM card for that Network otherwise you would be using AT&T international roaming. Data speed may well fluctuate depending on what frequencies individual carriers predominantly use but you should be able to make phone calls and whatnot without issue.
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It's an unlocked device it should work on most GSM Networks as long as you have a SIM card for that Network otherwise you would be using AT&T international roaming. Data speed may well fluctuate depending on what frequencies individual carriers predominantly use but you should be able to make phone calls and whatnot without issue.
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yea thats all i would care about is phone and text... ok sounds good. ima go for the USA unlocked. Thank you very much!
If you unlock the bootloaders for the unlocked version it is still covered by warranty. So there's not much difference other than if you want updates right away go Nexus. If you don't mind waiting for developers or HTC to bring the next version then get an HTC 10.
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Nowadays tmo with their overseas roaming is the hot ticket for extended traveling. Just turn your phone on wherever you land and it works without having to get localized sims, distribute your regularly changing number, etc. Oddly the coverage overseas is better than in the US. They say you will be restricted to unlimited 2G data but normally you will get 3G. Seriously, I'm old and travel a lot. You're ahead of the game to port over and back compared to sim swapping because low cost sims are not always available and you save a lot of hassle. Next best option is sim swapping, Worst possible option is to use at&t as their overseas stuff is stupidly overpriced.
No matter which way you go most recent flagship phones travel pretty well as long as you don't require LTE, if you do you will want to research the carriers in the areas you will be traveling and get a prepaid on a network that your phone supports. Trip adviser forum is a pretty good resource for getting advise on the local coverage.
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Nowadays tmo with their overseas roaming is the hot ticket for extended traveling. Just turn your phone on wherever you land and it works without having to get localized sims, distribute your regularly changing number, etc. Oddly the coverage overseas is better than in the US. They say you will be restricted to unlimited 2G data but normally you will get 3G. Seriously, I'm old and travel a lot. You're ahead of the game to port over and back compared to sim swapping because low cost sims are not always available and you save a lot of hassle. Next best option is sim swapping, Worst possible option is to use at&t as their overseas stuff is stupidly overpriced.
No matter which way you go most recent flagship phones travel pretty well as long as you don't require LTE, if you do you will want to research the carriers in the areas you will be traveling and get a prepaid on a network that your phone supports. Trip adviser forum is a pretty good resource for getting advise on the local coverage.
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all i really care about overseas is the use of call and text. data, as long as my phone can operate, idc what it is. ill have wifi everywhere i go for the most part.
Yeah, I don't care about LTE myself, is nice but not in any way a requirement. Having some data however is huge. You can translate, get information, and maps has become very good with walking and mass transit directions. I also use Here and download the maps for the entire area I'm going to be in before I leave. It's the easiest way to have mapping capability in remote areas.
The information I posted is essentially the conventional wisdom you will get if you search the travel forums, they're the go to for specific local information.
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The unlocked US version (2PS650000) is different than the international version (2PS620000). They are actually different models. For past devices, HTCUSA has posted the RUUs for unlocked US devices on their rom update web page:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html
HTC International/EMEA typically does not post RUUs for their devices. That being said there are websites where leaked RUUs are always posted, however, they usually require a subscription.
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would please post the links for HTC International/EMEA RUUs websites which require a subscription, I really need to check them. thanks
HTC Europe Tech support and Bootloader unlock
This is a reply I got from HTC Europe tech support re HTC 10 and bootloader unlock
Thank you for your email. My name is ***** and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team. You will have the option in the menu to unlock the bootloader, as this is a function in the Marshmallow.
Note this applies only phones purchased from HTC , I have one on pre order so will keep you posted
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The unlocked US version (2PS650000) is different than the international version (2PS620000). They are actually different models. For past devices, HTCUSA has posted the RUUs for unlocked US devices on their rom update web page:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html
HTC International/EMEA typically does not post RUUs for their devices. That being said there are websites where leaked RUUs are always posted, however, they usually require a subscription.
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Do you know what the difference is in between the two models? The thing is that I will be in US until mid May and then will move to Europe. I am planning on pre ordering it but not sure if the US unlocked version would work flawlessly in Europe. I would opt buying it in US if there are no differences as I can use the discount coupon and it is much cheaper here than UK or Germany.
I could read out some changes in terms of bands, but not sure what does it translate to!?
I would appreciate any help!
fidanhGPE said:
Do you know what the difference is in between the two models? The thing is that I will be in US until mid May and then will move to Europe. I am planning on pre ordering it but not sure if the US unlocked version would work flawlessly in Europe. I would opt buying it in US if there are no differences as I can use the discount coupon and it is much cheaper here than UK or Germany.
I could read out some changes in terms of bands, but not sure what does it translate to!?
I would appreciate any help!
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The supported network frequencies are the big difference. Check to confirm that the international model supports the network frequencies you will need while still in the states and vice versa.
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The supported network frequencies are the big difference. Check to confirm that the international model supports the network frequencies you will need while still in the states and vice versa.
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I have checked both the unlocked US and EMEA model, the only difference is on the LTE bands. I checked the LTE bands in Europe through wiki and most seem to use band 1,3,7,20, which are covered by the US model as well. Other than that gsm, 2G and 3G are the same.
Would someone confirm that the US model would work properly in EU?
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...us.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Camellia Red, Topaz Gold, Carbon Gray exclusive to HTC.com
Camellia Red and Topaz Gold will begin shipping in early October.
What are the odds I could convince HTC to send me a Camellia Red Unlocked phone to replace my Carbon Grey Unlocked phone when I apply for the Uh-Oh protection? I could wait 2 months with a damaged camera lens to get a Red model. I loved my red M8.
Other colors won't start shipping until October. Kind of like the A9, a fiasco, and 2 $100 credits I ended up getting with them due to delays on shipping. I can wait, and hope they can't deliver, and get more credits!
Now if I can get my credit reinstated of $100 that expired for whatever reason. HTC support is so slow!!!
Sucks that it's only for USA, that red one looks really good!
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I just bought the 10 right before the 100 off offer expired on Aug 7. If I know this would be available I'd have waited.
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Contivity said:
I just bought the 10 right before the 100 off offer expired on Aug 7. If I know this would be available I'd have waited.
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FYI: Now it's $150 off and red is in stock
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HTC.com is reporting $150 off new colors
edit @spjetrovic beat me to it
It's not US only @Chad_Petree it should be available in each country where HTC.com sells phones directly to consumers.
For example the discounted price (-15%) is 594,15€ for Finland, Sweden and Denmark at least.
Germany is 568,65€
UK 484.49£
France, Spain, Ireland, and Italy 636,65€
And so on. Don't have the time to check more countries..
Edit: Pfft, nvm, that was an old message to the original offer. Should learn to read.
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It's not US only @Chad_Petree it should be available in each country where HTC.com sells phones directly to consumers.
For example the discounted price (-15%) is 594,15€ for Finland, Sweden and Denmark at least.
Germany is 568,65€
UK 484.49£
France, Spain, Ireland, and Italy 636,65€
And so on. Don't have the time to check more countries..
Edit: Pfft, nvm, that was an old message to the original offer. Should learn to read.
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Thank you ! It is indeed discounted on Germany , but no red color for us , it's not listed on HTCs website , ha !!!? That's not cool HTC Germany is the only country in Europe where you don't get the red version ... At least we got the best price our of Europe ... what about in your country ? Can you buy it there ?
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Red is available here in the States but it won't ship until later this month. I'm sure the unlocked version will work in other countries. All of our phones FINALLY have to work on all networks now!
rhodyvik said:
Red is available here in the States but it won't ship until later this month. I'm sure the unlocked version will work in other countries. All of our phones FINALLY have to work on all networks now!
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I wish someone would tell verizon that now all phones have to work on all networks lol, because you have to do mods on the Unlocked 10 to get it to work on verizon and if you want volte to work you have to fully convert your unlocked version to a verizon version and verizon still will not accept and activate your unlocked 10 imei on their network, you have to activate your verizon sim in a verizon phone then put that sim in your unlocked 10. FCC should get verizon to stop this crap or start fining them.
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I wish someone would tell verizon that now all phones have to work on all networks lol, because you have to do mods on the Unlocked 10 to get it to work on verizon and if you want volte to work you have to fully convert your unlocked version to a verizon version and verizon still will not accept and activate your unlocked 10 imei on their network, you have to activate your verizon sim in a verizon phone then put that sim in your unlocked 10. FCC should get verizon to stop this crap or start fining them.
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In the end of your statement you said that you have to activate a verizon sim in a verizon phone...and then put that sim in the unlocked 10? I actually bought the Verizon HTC 10 not knowing any of this until I called Verizon to activate and the guy told me I could have just bought the unlocked version from HTC.com where I purchased the phone. He was actually really helpful. Most of the time when I talk to the folks at Verizon they're knowledgeable enough to know what they have to do. My question is: why do you need to go through the hassle of activating the SIM in a Verizon phone first? They have to accept the unlocked version. You might have to use a Verizon SIM which only makes sense to be honest. But those are free at the corporate Verizon Wireless stores...not the Wireless Zones and the Radioshack's of the country. I don't even think RS sells Verizon anymore.
I'm just pissed that I bought the Verizon variant. HTC.com should know better and just sell the unlocked version saying it works on all carriers. The Google Pixel coming out doesn't have special variants. Just one phone that works for all! Yes Verizon has an "exclusivity" partnership with them but I don't see the benefits for Verizon. Unless people pre-order through Verizon where there's more of a supply...and probably some ****ty bloatware that you can get rid of in a snap. I just got my HTC 10 on Thursday. I've already rooted it and unlocked it with s-off. I'm trying to find someone with the Android Nougat 7.x firmware but the people that do won't give it out and I definitely understand why. I can still return the HTC 10 within 30 days, and then buy the Google Pixel XL once they've depleted the pre-order stock. I've been loyal to HTC since the Thunderbolt days though. That's a long time.
So to answer your comment -- Verizon reps know they have to activate the unlocked version. But they can still require a Verizon SIM or I could have just taken the one out of my M8 I still have if they were that intense. Do you see any benefit with Google and Verizon being partners on this? It doesn't make any sense when you can order the phone through Google.com anyway.
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In the end of your statement you said that you have to activate a verizon sim in a verizon phone...and then put that sim in the unlocked 10? I actually bought the Verizon HTC 10 not knowing any of this until I called Verizon to activate and the guy told me I could have just bought the unlocked version from HTC.com where I purchased the phone. He was actually really helpful. Most of the time when I talk to the folks at Verizon they're knowledgeable enough to know what they have to do. My question is: why do you need to go through the hassle of activating the SIM in a Verizon phone first? They have to accept the unlocked version. You might have to use a Verizon SIM which only makes sense to be honest. But those are free at the corporate Verizon Wireless stores...not the Wireless Zones and the Radioshack's of the country. I don't even think RS sells Verizon anymore.
I'm just pissed that I bought the Verizon variant. HTC.com should know better and just sell the unlocked version saying it works on all carriers. The Google Pixel coming out doesn't have special variants. Just one phone that works for all! Yes Verizon has an "exclusivity" partnership with them but I don't see the benefits for Verizon. Unless people pre-order through Verizon where there's more of a supply...and probably some ****ty bloatware that you can get rid of in a snap. I just got my HTC 10 on Thursday. I've already rooted it and unlocked it with s-off. I'm trying to find someone with the Android Nougat 7.x firmware but the people that do won't give it out and I definitely understand why. I can still return the HTC 10 within 30 days, and then buy the Google Pixel XL once they've depleted the pre-order stock. I've been loyal to HTC since the Thunderbolt days though. That's a long time.
So to answer your comment -- Verizon reps know they have to activate the unlocked version. But they can still require a Verizon SIM or I could have just taken the one out of my M8 I still have if they were that intense. Do you see any benefit with Google and Verizon being partners on this? It doesn't make any sense when you can order the phone through Google.com anyway.
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Unless something has changed ? The unlocked 10 to be used on verizon has to have the verizon radio flashed to it which requires s-off to stick and root access.
Checkout Dottats thread below on how to use unlocked 10 on verizon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/vzw-how-to-unlocked-model-vzw-t3376743
You can still s-off unlock and root your verizon 10 just use the sunshine app its $25 but it frees your phone from verizons choke hold lol. Go to http://theroot.ninja and it lists it all out for you.
M9guy said:
Unless something has changed ? The unlocked 10 to be used on verizon has to have the verizon radio flashed to it which requires s-off to stick and root access.
Checkout Dottats thread below on how to use unlocked 10 on verizon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/vzw-how-to-unlocked-model-vzw-t3376743
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None of that is necessary per FCC regulations and law...but I didn't activate an unlocked 10 on the network. I'm pretty sure you just call them up with a Verizon SIM number associated with an IMEI that you want to use it on and that's it
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None of that is necessary per FCC regulations and law...but I didn't activate an unlocked 10 on the network. I'm pretty sure you just call them up with a Verizon SIM number associated with an IMEI that you want to use it on and that's it
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Verizon never added the unlocked imei numbers to their network. Seriously this has been going on since it came out verizon wont do it and people did file complaints with FCC and verizon gets out of it.
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Verizon never added the unlocked imei numbers to their network. Seriously this has been going on since it came out verizon wont do it and people did file complaints with FCC and verizon gets out of it.
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I guess we'll find out. I don't really care personally. The only phone I'd get if I return the 10 is a phone in the Pixel series. I just wish they had expandable memory! But I like the 10 with Viper on it.
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I guess we'll find out. I don't really care personally. The only phone I'd get if I return the 10 is a phone in the Pixel series. I just wish they had expandable memory! But I like the 10 with Viper on it.
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Its been since april. The unlocked 10 needs the verizon radio flashed to it, plus volte wont work unless you use the other thread which you flash the verizon ruu to an unlocked 10 then volte will work. Links below both go over all that. I also wish pixel had the sd card slot, but also stereo speakers instead of the one facing down speaker it does have also has no OIS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/vzw-how-to-unlocked-model-vzw-t3376743
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/guide-convert-unlocked-to-verizon-t3380615
Never said I didn't believe you.
rhodyvik said:
I guess we'll find out. I don't really care personally. The only phone I'd get if I return the 10 is a phone in the Pixel series. I just wish they had expandable memory! But I like the 10 with Viper on it.
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New pixels have expanded storage capabilities I thought
@M9guy
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New pixels have expanded storage capabilities I thought
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@afuller42 You either have to buy the 32gb or the 128gb and that's it. There's no microSD slot in the Google Pixel series phones.
I've been running on an M9 for the past two years, and with the HTC11 coming around the corner, pricing on the 10 becomes very tempting. But I might be switching carriers from AT&T to Verizon, so I need to know if there's any difference now between the phones, or if they're all 'multi-carrier' at this point. IOW, do I need to look for a specific Verizon-variant or AT&T-variant, or is there no difference anymore?
Thanks in advance!
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I've been running on an M9 for the past two years, and with the HTC11 coming around the corner, pricing on the 10 becomes very tempting. But I might be switching carriers from AT&T to Verizon, so I need to know if there's any difference now between the phones, or if they're all 'multi-carrier' at this point. IOW, do I need to look for a specific Verizon-variant or AT&T-variant, or is there no difference anymore?
Thanks in advance!
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Verizon one is a CDMA variant, it supports most but not all of the Unlocked version LTE bands. Also you're at the mercy of VZW for software updates (they haven't even updated to Nougat yet).
On the other hand, the Verizon variant works with all their network features (e.g advanced calling) out of the box. To get the Unlocked version working on the VZW network, you'd have have s-off first and flash new radios. This isn't difficult to do, but beware of the added cost of having to S-off.
So then there are, in fact, two variants - CDMA for Verizon and GSM for AT&T. Correct?
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So then there are, in fact, two variants - CDMA for Verizon and GSM for AT&T. Correct?
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Yes but the GSM one (referred to as U.S Unlocked) is not make specifically or only for AT&T, if that's what you mean. It's sold by HTC for use on any gsm network.
I believe there is also a version from Sprint that is a CDMA variant.
Edited my original post to say the Verizon variant doesn't support all of the Unlocked version LTE bands.
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So then there are, in fact, two variants - CDMA for Verizon and GSM for AT&T. Correct?
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Tarima said:
Yes but the GSM one (referred to as U.S Unlocked) is not make specifically or only for AT&T, if that's what you mean. It's sold by HTC for use on any gsm network.
I believe there is also a version from Sprint that is a CDMA variant.
Edited my original post to say the Verizon variant doesn't support all of the Unlocked version LTE bands.
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Hardware wise all models are the same. With S-OFF you can convert your model to any other.
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Hardware wise all models are the same. With S-OFF you can convert your model to any other.
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So what you're saying is that the radio can operate on all bands, and I could theoretically buy a 'Verizon' model, re-flash the radio, and it becomes a fully functional AT&T model?
I'm asking, because back in the day, the radio hardware was different. Ive flashed ROM and radio combinations for my Inspire/Desire and M7. My present M9 is a bit of a disappointment, only because I'll never again buy a phone with a camera that lacks OIS. Hence my interest in the M10.
Unless, of course, the purported HTC11 us a world-beater, but truthfully, I'm not confident.
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BillTheCat said:
So what you're saying is that the radio can operate on all bands, and I could theoretically buy a 'Verizon' model, re-flash the radio, and it becomes a fully functional AT&T model?
I'm asking, because back in the day, the radio hardware was different. Ive flashed ROM and radio combinations for my Inspire/Desire and M7. My present M9 is a bit of a disappointment, only because I'll never again buy a phone with a camera that lacks OIS. Hence my interest in the M10.
Unless, of course, the purported HTC11 us a world-beater, but truthfully, I'm not confident.
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yes. You see lots of verizon users converting their unlocked to verizon or the other way round.
You just flash the HTC US Unlocked RUU, not just the radio. Supercid and set the mid to US unlocked.
You need s-off though..additionally it needs to be on Marshmallow. temp root on vzw nougat got patched and sunshine s-off won't work anymore.
j to the 4n said:
yes. You see lots of verizon users converting their unlocked to verizon or the other way round.
You just flash the HTC US Unlocked RUU, not just the radio. Supercid and set the mid to US unlocked.
You need s-off though..additionally it needs to be on Marshmallow. temp root on vzw nougat got patched and sunshine s-off won't work anymore.
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Got it. I did Sunshine for my M9, and it was great. I'll wait to see what HTC does with the upcoming 11, and unless it's incredible - and worth $400 more than a NIB 10, I'll probably go with the 10 to save money and get a camera I can live with. It's hard to imagine what not having OIS can do to your pictures.
j to the 4n said:
yes. You see lots of verizon users converting their unlocked to verizon or the other way round.
You just flash the HTC US Unlocked RUU, not just the radio. Supercid and set the mid to US unlocked.
You need s-off though..additionally it needs to be on Marshmallow. temp root on vzw nougat got patched and sunshine s-off won't work anymore.
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Because I'm getting closer to making a purchase, I'd like to touch on this one last time.
Since AT&T didn't carry the M10, I'm forced to look for a Verizon, Sprint or Tmobile variant. I prefer something New In Box, but it seems they're hard to come by, the best condition (and most adorable) being from Sprint.
But if I can't unlock and flash an RUU that would enable the phone to be fully functional on AT&T, it would wind up being an expensive paperweight.
So, any last assurances that this will work out no matter which variant I buy would really put my mind at ease.
Thanks again!
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BillTheCat said:
Because I'm getting closer to making a purchase, I'd like to touch on this one last time.
Since AT&T didn't carry the M10, I'm forced to look for a Verizon, Sprint or Tmobile variant. I prefer something New In Box, but it seems they're hard to come by, the best condition (and most adorable) being from Sprint.
But if I can't unlock and flash an RUU that would enable the phone to be fully functional on AT&T, it would wind up being an expensive paperweight.
So, any last assurances that this will work out no matter which variant I buy would really put my mind at ease.
Thanks again!
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Hi,
I was in your situation and finally pulled the plug on Verizon variant. It came with an OS that is patched by Verizon blocking Sunshine S-OFF/Unlock. But browsing around XDA & google search, I found the steps and spent some $ to S-OFF/Unlock. Long story short, finally I ended up with HTC 10 Verizon variant converted to Developer Edition.
1) Will Verizon variant work with AT&T out of box? Yes, but LTE didn't work for me. I set bands to Global to get 4G. One thing I observed was unable to do OS update. I didn't invest much time on OS update because I was prepared to convert phone to unlocked well before purchase.
2) Which variant of HTC 10 is best? Unlocked if you can get good condition phone within budget. Else, refer point #1.
cnu4u said:
Hi,
I was in your situation and finally pulled the plug on Verizon variant. It came with an OS that is patched by Verizon blocking Sunshine S-OFF/Unlock. But browsing around XDA & google search, I found the steps and spent some $ to S-OFF/Unlock. Long story short, finally I ended up with HTC 10 Verizon variant converted to Developer Edition.
1) Will Verizon variant work with AT&T out of box? Yes, but LTE didn't work for me. I set bands to Global to get 4G. One thing I observed was unable to do OS update. I didn't invest much time on OS update because I was prepared to convert phone to unlocked well before purchase.
2) Which variant of HTC 10 is best? Unlocked if you can get good condition phone within budget. Else, refer point #1.
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Seems the best price on FleaBay is about $430 with no warranty, but HTC has them for $499 brand new direct, probably because the Ocean is to be released in about three weeks.
I wonder if it makes sense to wait for the price to drop further, or buy now with a direct purchase in the hope of getting price protection and/or a warranty.
Does HTC include any warranty when buying from them?
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BillTheCat said:
Because I'm getting closer to making a purchase, I'd like to touch on this one last time.
Since AT&T didn't carry the M10, I'm forced to look for a Verizon, Sprint or Tmobile variant. I prefer something New In Box, but it seems they're hard to come by, the best condition (and most adorable) being from Sprint.
But if I can't unlock and flash an RUU that would enable the phone to be fully functional on AT&T, it would wind up being an expensive paperweight.
So, any last assurances that this will work out no matter which variant I buy would really put my mind at ease.
Thanks again!
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
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cnu4u said:
Hi,
I was in your situation and finally pulled the plug on Verizon variant. It came with an OS that is patched by Verizon blocking Sunshine S-OFF/Unlock. But browsing around XDA & google search, I found the steps and spent some $ to S-OFF/Unlock. Long story short, finally I ended up with HTC 10 Verizon variant converted to Developer Edition.
1) Will Verizon variant work with AT&T out of box? Yes, but LTE didn't work for me. I set bands to Global to get 4G. One thing I observed was unable to do OS update. I didn't invest much time on OS update because I was prepared to convert phone to unlocked well before purchase.
2) Which variant of HTC 10 is best? Unlocked if you can get good condition phone within budget. Else, refer point #1.
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be aware that it will just work on the verizon variant, when it is running marshmallow. temp root is patched on verizon when it is running nougat, means only way to s-off would be a javacard/mail in service handled by @jcase for example.
Hi everybody. I bought a very strange HTC 10 at ebay. Could you please help me to understand the phone's history? the photos of the IMEI/Serial and Download Mode ara attached:
1) After checking IMEI and Serial Number I can see the next:
Source: https://imei24.com/warranty_info/HTC/
Customer Description T-MOBILE USA
Country USA
Lock status locked
Warranty start 2016/05/09
Warranty end 2017/08/09
So the phone is old/renewed. Or at least was bought in the USA at 2016 - like T-Mobile phone.
2) After checking info in the Download Mode I can see the date "January 2, 2018". What is it? The date of selling? Or just the date, when the phone was first turned on?
3) In the download mode I can see the CID "htc _pmewl" and "OS - 3.16.617.2". They mean, that the phone is unlocked. But IMEI shows that it's T-Mobile phone. How to explain this?
galaktiker said:
Hi everybody. I bought a very strange HTC 10 at ebay. Could you please help me to understand the phone's history? the photos of the IMEI/Serial and Download Mode ara attached:
1) After checking IMEI and Serial Number I can see the next:
Source: https://imei24.com/warranty_info/HTC/
Customer Description T-MOBILE USA
Country USA
Lock status locked
Warranty start 2016/05/09
Warranty end 2017/08/09
So the phone is old/renewed. Or at least was bought in the USA at 2016 - like T-Mobile phone.
2) After checking info in the Download Mode I can see the date "January 2, 2018". What is it? The date of selling? Or just the date, when the phone was first turned on?
3) In the download mode I can see the CID "htc _pmewl" and "OS - 3.16.617.2". They mean, that the phone is unlocked. But IMEI shows that it's T-Mobile phone. How to explain this?
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Regarding your third question, it means the phone software was modified to turn it into Unlocked. Most likely it was a T-Mobile device, and the seller changed the cid to Unlocked and installed that software to it. Do you have s-off? It should tell you in download mode.
Tarima said:
Regarding your third question, it means the phone software was modified to turn it into Unlocked. Most likely it was a T-Mobile device, and the seller changed the cid to Unlocked and installed that software to it. Do you have s-off? It should tell you in download mode.
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I did have S-On when the phone is arrived. But then I manually unlocked the bootloader (with htcdev website) and got S-Off (via sunshine). May be you know what does the date "Jan 2 2018, 18:22:58" mean? Is it the date when the seller change the cid of the phone?
galaktiker said:
I did have S-On when the phone is arrived. But then I manually unlocked the bootloader (with htcdev website) and got S-Off (via sunshine). May be you know what does the date "Jan 2 2018, 18:22:58" mean? Is it the date when the seller change the cid of the phone?
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I'm fairly sure that date is when the software build was made. I have the same date on mine (U.S Unlocked)
Tarima said:
I'm fairly sure that date is when the software build was made. I have the same date on mine (U.S Unlocked)
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Thanks, now I see. Are you familiar with T-Mobile practice of selling subsidized smartphones (for example "subscribe for 1 year tariff and get a smartphone for just 70 USD")? After that it's very easy to unlock them and to sell at ebay as normal ones.
galaktiker said:
Thanks, now I see. Are you familiar with T-Mobile practice of selling subsidized smartphones (for example "subscribe for 1 year tariff and get a smartphone for just 70 USD")? After that it's very easy to unlock them and to sell at ebay as normal ones.
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Yeah I used to buy only subsidized phones in the past, but the long contracts were annoying so with the 10, I bought it outright and I'm loving the freedom of not being tied down to a single carrier for a year or two.
Tarima said:
Yeah I used to buy only subsidized phones in the past, but the long contracts were annoying so with the 10, I bought it outright and I'm loving the freedom of not being tied down to a single carrier for a year or two.
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But those people, who sell new subsidized phones at ebay.com are obviously not tied by their carrier. So there's a method to buy a subsidized phone (or a lot of subsidized phones) and immediately say goodbye to the carrier
galaktiker said:
But those people, who sell new subsidized phones at ebay.com are obviously not tied by their carrier. So there's a method to buy a subsidized phone (or a lot of subsidized phones) and immediately say goodbye to the carrier
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I believe most of those people are buying used/refurbished/firesale phones and modifying the software to make it look like it's a brand new Unlocked one. I've seen countless threads around here with people asking about a 10 they've bought on ebay and which has conflicting software version numbers. Tons of them have been Sprint (CDMA) variants being sold as Unlocked, and I'm assuming they're either refurbished or they were originally purchased when Sprint was liquidating their 10 stocks at a low price.
I bought a HTC 10 "Unlocked" in Camellia Red from eBay that was apparently factory sealed. It came in shrink wrapped packaging in what looked like the factory box. Upon closer inspection, the box had spelling mistakes and accessories that didn't ship with the 10, for example, a 1AMP wall charger and earphones from the M8. The phone is genuine but the bootloader was unlocked and the setup wizard had already been completed, minus a Google account