[Q] 42C while Quickcharging ? - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Hi Friends,
after 7 years of Samsung I am finally back to HTC and so far I am loving the device except for one thing that concerns me a little.
After turning it on it started installing Apps, Updating etc. doing the regular stuff it was getting quite warm on the back. Not really hot but warm enough to be a bit uncomfortable.
Now that I plugged it in to charge I checked the temperature and it says 42c. I didn't touch it for 30 minutes, it was just charging with the stock charger and reaching this temperature.
Is that unusual? Should I worry?
Thanks for helping!

nervermind the temperature went down again. It seems like updating apps makes the device overheat. Anyone else with this experiecne when you setup the device for the first time?

exxi said:
nervermind the temperature went down again. It seems like updating apps makes the device overheat. Anyone else with this experiecne when you setup the device for the first time?
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It's worse when you are flashing TWRP and backing up in order to root. When I did that for mines, it had to update all of my apps about 172 of them. Phone was really warm even with a spigen case on it.

That's weird. I am not used to this kind of heat from my samsung phones. Maybe it is the all metal body that conducts the heat better to the point where you feel it.
It makes me feel like the phone is really struggeling and draining the battery.
Just regular Web Browsing will make it reach a solid 40C.
Anyone?

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Extremely high phone temp!

Does anyone have issues with your SGSII T989 phones having extremely high temps?
I get it when using the GPS, charging the phone while i'm talking on the phone, and doing a few other activities. It did not do this on my first purchase of the phone and i'm a bit weary of the temps as sometiems it gets quite warm!
Currently I'm on O.E. SGS II Rom w/ root, that's about it! No OC no mods or anything of that sort. (Just CWM and Root).
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, as this heat as caused me from using my phone each day more and more.
P.S. I WAS on Juggernaut Rom and then flashed back to Stock, and it was having this heating issue then, should i try to do a complete 100% wipe like on one of the development threads and start from scratch like I just got the phone from the factory again? I wiped my system using Odin and it seems to of kept my old programs, no information like games and etc. was kept however, does anyone think that might be the problem? Once again thanks!
XxGoKoUxX said:
Does anyone have issues with your SGSII T989 phones having extremely high temps?
I get it when using the GPS, charging the phone while i'm talking on the phone, and doing a few other activities. It did not do this on my first purchase of the phone and i'm a bit weary of the temps as sometiems it gets quite warm!
Currently I'm on O.E. SGS II Rom w/ root, that's about it! No OC no mods or anything of that sort. (Just CWM and Root).
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, as this heat as caused me from using my phone each day more and more.
P.S. I WAS on Juggernaut Rom and then flashed back to Stock, and it was having this heating issue then, should i try to do a complete 100% wipe like on one of the development threads and start from scratch like I just got the phone from the factory again? I wiped my system using Odin and it seems to of kept my old programs, no information like games and etc. was kept however, does anyone think that might be the problem? Once again thanks!
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If you are rooted you might want to try a different kernel and maybe SetCPU. I had some overheating/temp issues a while back and after I lowered my CPU a bit and set it to an Ondemand state with a profile for screen off running CPU very low when not actively in use it seemed to fix the problem.. Btw SetCPU is free for XDA users, there is a thread somewhere in the Android Hacking Apps forum..
GL
Edit: I thought it was free to xda users, I checked and cant find the thread, maybe I was wrong or they changed it..
ty VoiD
I'm on the stock kernal, I was on the modified 1.7ghz kernal before i believe, as I could overclock over that, but i just recently stopped that and went back to stock. I was and still am expecting the phone to malfunction on me sometime soon lol. It's been a really reliable phone so far! My G1 and Mytouch 3G slide (gf's phone) took soo many dumps on me while I used it. Each of those phones were probably sent back 5-8 times and they were kept completely stock for a while!
Back on subject though. Any kernals that go well with the factory rom? I don't favor any aftermarket roms right now as they're not stable enough for my usage IMO.
I have heat problems but I've always had the stock kernel...
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Undervolt at the stock clock if you want to lower temps. However, charging will always increase heat especially if you are using the phone at the same time, and depending on ambient temps.
Dude my moms sgsII literally got fried because it heated up once. She was using her phone normally and all of a sudden it started heating up. She kept using it and the next day the phone won't turn on, charge or get into download mode. It looked like what a hard brick would look like. So I just returned it for a HTC one S.
Btw she was on full stock.
My phone heats up a lot because I'm down south with 90-95 degree temps and I keep phone in the car dock by the windshield but it never failed on me.
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I thought it was a well fixable issue. Guess not? lol... Either way, everytime my batt temps rise, i notice i get 40-45C and i start to get worried. So if i'm in a car, i'd just put it next to the AC vent while the car's running and temps get down to about 25C and i'm good again. I just don't feel comfortable with the phone anymore like I use to. It never did this before, why now??
I have an app that warns when it goes over 40 and it happens daily. I was downloading torrents one time and it keeps the screen active while downloading and the thing got like 62 celsius before I realized what happened. It almost burnt my hand lol. if your ever in sunlight or palming the phone while using gps on 4g.
overheating is very common with this phone I wouldn't worrie about it to much it is uncomfortable though if in your pocket
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Also remember, any app that uses hardware acceleration for graphics or video (games, browser, etc.) or gps will cause the phone to heat up if used for a prolonged period of time.
Playing Osmos was like setting my phone on fire.
curry67 said:
I have an app that warns when it goes over 40 and it happens daily. I was downloading torrents one time and it keeps the screen active while downloading and the thing got like 62 celsius before I realized what happened. It almost burnt my hand lol. if your ever in sunlight or palming the phone while using gps on 4g.
overheating is very common with this phone I wouldn't worrie about it to much it is uncomfortable though if in your pocket
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Are you sure I shouldn't worry? I mean, I don't want solder points falling off due to too high of a temp. Then again these temps don't even reach 100C yet. I've got the same app too probably, it's a battery monitor that tells u when the phone gets too hot. mine's goes off everytime i'm around 40+
AaronPauley said:
Also remember, any app that uses hardware acceleration for graphics or video (games, browser, etc.) or gps will cause the phone to heat up if used for a prolonged period of time.
Playing Osmos was like setting my phone on fire.
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Yep, I use GPS and often. It's just so much easier than guessing your way off a piece of paper. But yeah, like you the phone gets soo hottttttt. I have to always put the phone to my AC vent.
It's normal to a point.
These are serious computers we have.
Think of the old P486's back in the day, those things needed huge heat sinks and some even had fans
our phones which is what, 4x the cpu power and not only no heat sink but everything is squished together inbetween a hot screen and a hot battery
That being said, I use a program called A-see, which is to watch my security cameras while out.
And if I forget to close it out (Actually exit the program) It will keep running and running and eventually probably fry my phone
lets put it this way, I will actually start to feel it in my jeans pocket, it gets that hot.
Also I have a program which will alert me if my phone gets to 130 degrees F
And will automatically shut the phone down if it gets to 140
overheat protection or something
I had this issue where whenever I try to charge my phone it would overheat to the point unbearable to touch I went back to stock flash different roms in the end i exchanged it it was still under warranty

Phone Overheating & Won't Switch On

I'm a bit worried about my phone overheating when it's not being used. This has happened twice in the last 3 days. It was on my desk, not been used for a while then when I pick it up it's red hot. I hadn't been using the phone recently and the only things I use are phone/sms/internet, no games or anything. It was so hot that I thought I better switch it off. However, after powering off the red light stayed on and the phone continued to get hotter even though it was off. I tried to switch it back on but it wouldn't power on.
Eventually it switched back on, cooled down and all seemed well until it happened again just now. This time I was charging the phone while on, I left it for an hour or so, went back to it and realised it was red hot again and the same thing happened.
The only things that have been different since the problem started are that I flashed the OTA update for the latest ViperX rom (stock kernel) and I've put it in a different case, an official HTC case with a hard back and leather front flap. Could either of these be causing this? I've searched the ViperX thread and although others have mentioned the phone getting hot it's always been when they were playing games. Mine just heats up on its own while not in use
Does anyone have any ideas? I'm really worried the phone will overheat without me realising and fry itself to a crisp or something
Edit: I forgot to mention, I installed SmartStay Ex recently as well, could this cause overheating?
I’m on Viper 2.1.0 too, and don’t play games. Mine never gets hot while browsing, youtube, streaming music etc..The only time it gets a little warm is when navigating (google maps) + BT streaming + charging at the same time. If yours is getting hot for no reason then I suspect there is a rouge app or something else is forcing your phone to run at full speed all the time. Install CPU spy and check how your CPU behaves. Most of the time should be spent in deep sleep while rest at 640MHz or lower speeds. It shouldn't be spending that much time in 500/1400Mhz mode if you are not running CPU/Graphics intensive apps. You can also check battery stats and see which apps are using most of the battery.
eggshaped said:
I'm a bit worried about my phone overheating when it's not being used. This has happened twice in the last 3 days. It was on my desk, not been used for a while then when I pick it up it's red hot. I hadn't been using the phone recently and the only things I use are phone/sms/internet, no games or anything. It was so hot that I thought I better switch it off. However, after powering off the red light stayed on and the phone continued to get hotter even though it was off. I tried to switch it back on but it wouldn't power on.
Eventually it switched back on, cooled down and all seemed well until it happened again just now. This time I was charging the phone while on, I left it for an hour or so, went back to it and realised it was red hot again and the same thing happened.
The only things that have been different since the problem started are that I flashed the OTA update for the latest ViperX rom (stock kernel) and I've put it in a different case, an official HTC case with a hard back and leather front flap. Could either of these be causing this? I've searched the ViperX thread and although others have mentioned the phone getting hot it's always been when they were playing games. Mine just heats up on its own while not in use
Does anyone have any ideas? I'm really worried the phone will overheat without me realising and fry itself to a crisp or something
Edit: I forgot to mention, I installed SmartStay Ex recently as well, could this cause overheating?
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do a factory reset, probably some bad app that is running in the background like crazy. disable smartstay and see if that changes anything
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Thanks Phoenix and KLUVJ, I think you were right about it being an app. I uninstalled Smartstay as that was the only thing I've installed in the last couple of weeks and so far everything seems fine. It's not even warm
If it happens again I'll get the CPU app Phoenix mentioned and look into it more closely, but I've got a feeling it must have been Smartstay.
Thanks for your advice, very much appreciated

Left Side gets Heated

I was reading on the Note 8 the other day and started noticing that the left side of the tablet gets pretty warm/hot. Is it just me or does anyone else have this issue? The rest of the tablet remains cool- just the left side around the middle.
JokeZony0u said:
I was reading on the Note 8 the other day and started noticing that the left side of the tablet gets pretty warm/hot. Is it just me or does anyone else have this issue? The rest of the tablet remains cool- just the left side around the middle.
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This issue already discussed before. It is quite normal for a device to get some heat. Anyway, I think there is a big difference between warm and hot. If your device really gets HOT, then it is a problem. My device gets warm as well as you described, but I wouldn't say it gets hot or uncomfortable to hold. I think the temperatures quite similar to my SGS3.
CPUs and GPUs put out heat. Batteries put out heat. The more intensive the activity (particularly watching video, gaming, internet use and GPS) the more heat will be generated. This is a fact with all tablets, and computers in general. I'd think it was strange if the device didn't get warm somewhere. Heat on the left side is completely normal, although not sure what component (CPU, battery, etc.) is located there.
Now its impossible to tell what OP means exactly by "warm" or "hot" as this are not quantitive in any way. It shouldn't get hot enough to be uncomfortable (or even hurt) to hold in any way. Excessive heat may be an indicator of a faulty battery or some other hardware defect. But usually not. And the device will shut itself down long before a temperature is reached, that will hurt anything (if that is what you are worried about).
There are ways for the system to tell you the temperature, but I think its only at one location (CPU?) which may not be the problem area. So measuring this way may have limted usefulness in real life.
That is the location of the cpu unit so I wouldn't worry about it unless it gets very disconcertingly hot.
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Im using the Sansung OEM cover. Holding it in portrait mode, mine gets "warm" on the left side near the edge... but only when its in my pocket and its in sleep mode and wifi is turned off. Kinda fels like my BlackBerry when its polling for a tower, it gets real warm. I have a N5110 wifi no radio so trying to determine why the warm up.
Regards,
Heat "problem"?
JokeZony0u said:
I was reading on the Note 8 the other day and started noticing that the left side of the tablet gets pretty warm/hot. Is it just me or does anyone else have this issue? The rest of the tablet remains cool- just the left side around the middle.
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My Galaxy Note 8 has this problem. I installed an app which read the temperature and it reaches 40°C when I play video games. It has the power saving mode on. Is it normal? I'm worried about this
JNoise05 said:
My Galaxy Note 8 has this problem. I installed an app which read the temperature and it reaches 40°C when I play video games. It has the power saving mode on. Is it normal? I'm worried about this
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i've installed diagnosis app to check the temp, mine reaches ~40C(i think this is the battery temp) when i play also. so i think many of us is experiencing this *____*
Just with normal use the left side of my unit is getting annoyingly warm. Hopefully they can fix this with an update or something. I'm experiencing this on stock, anyone on custom software experiencing this too?
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Hey thanks for all your input guys. It's good to know I'm not the only one experiencing these problems. So far, I don't think it's bothering me to the point that I wish to call Samsung up for a replacement. It does get a bit warmer especially if I have the pen out and writing some notes. I do also understand it's more than likely that the cpu is located there but I've never had a warming problem w/ other smartphones and tablets I've had.
Either way, thanks for all the input!
I agree
JokeZony0u said:
I do also understand it's more than likely that the cpu is located there but I've never had a warming problem w/ other smartphones and tablets I've had.!
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I agree with you, my father's got an iPad mini and the gadget doesn't present warming problems and battery life is much better. Do you think all Note 8 devices present the same problem? I'm thinking seriously of replace mine for a brand new Note 8.0 but if it presents the same problem, I'll be wasting my time...

galaxy note 8.0 heating too much?

I just bought mine yesterday and this is my first tablet. I like it mainly for the size and the s-pen. During my 1 day of use I immediately feels that it's heating up a little too fast around the left side (maybe this is where the battery is). Do you guys have the same problems.
Thanks.
mfcruz said:
I just bought mine yesterday and this is my first tablet. I like it mainly for the size and the s-pen. During my 1 day of use I immediately feels that it's heating up a little too fast around the left side (maybe this is where the battery is). Do you guys have the same problems.
Thanks.
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I think that is where the CPU is. I'd install a terminal shell and run the "ps" command to see what process(es) are using CPU.
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I've installed Diagnosis App and it's showing ~40C when playing games... Is this normal temp for a tab?
Thanks
Is it normal for a device to heat up under heavy use? Clearly yes. Is it normal for a device to heat up while sitting there with nothing going on? Clearly no. Does your computer heat up when you use it? This is no different, except that there is no fan to help keep it cool. If you are not seeing any problems, reboots, crashes, or abnormal battery drain, why are you worried?
I think CPU problem.
I think the problem is can be CPU.
Please check your CPU
mfcruz said:
I've installed Diagnosis App and it's showing ~40C when playing games... Is this normal temp for a tab?
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Totally normal. About 104F, that's not even close to hot. Don't even need to start getting worried until you hit 120 or 130F.
This is starting to be the question that gets asked on here every day or 2. Already about 4 other threads asking this exact question.
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redpoint73 said:
Totally normal. About 104F, that's not even close to hot. Don't even need to start getting worried until you hit 120 or 130F.
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I agree with you but, Do you think it's normal when I start to use it and after 10 minutes of web browsing, facebook and downloading apps it increases its Temperature level around 10°C? This is my first tablet and I'm worried about that. I compare the temperature with my Razr i and their behaviors are similar but, comparing with a Sony Tablet S it reaches 30°C doing the same processes. I hope you can help me, I just made a phone call to the shop where I bought it for a device replacement, but it wouldn't have any case if all Note 8 devices present the same problem.
Thank you very much!
This is now my second 8.0 and I really feel that this runs much cooler temperatures. Writing notes for several hours or casual playing I felt the first Note 8.0 also heat up a bit too much (still comfortable to hold) from the left side whereas this second runs nicely without heating up. Also what I noticed yesterday was the while charging the chargers was just warm when before with the first device it was actually getting hot.

The heat Issue?

I am thinking to buy the phone but I saw some posts there are some heat issues. So what is the problem besides the phone getting too hot? Is it shuting down when it gets too hot or get really laggy? Is there any other problem when heated except it gets really hot?
Rupar4o said:
I am thinking to buy the phone but I saw some posts there are some heat issues. So what is the problem besides the phone getting too hot? Is it shuting down when it gets too hot or get really laggy? Is there any other problem when heated except it gets really hot?
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I haven't experienced any heat issues. I have yet to feel my g3 get warm Tbh.
Others (not sure which model) have reported issues with heat, to the point that it causes the device to throttle the brightness down. Again haven't experienced this on my at&t model.
Heisenberg420 said:
I haven't experienced any heat issues. I have yet to feel my g3 get warm Tbh.
Others (not sure which model) have reported issues with heat, to the point that it causes the device to throttle the brightness down. Again haven't experienced this on my at&t model.
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Thanks for the reply, someone with issues ?
Same here not felt it get warm even watching video.
When the phone gets hot several things happen.
1) The CPU is clocked down to help lower heat
2) Brightness is capped to help lower heat
3) If the phone continues to get too hot (usually when its already hot and you then start to play a really intense game, or benchmark the phone may shut itself down.
People complained a lot with the Korean model but I haven't seen anyone with a US model complain. Maybe the type of person that waits is less likely to be a phone gamer? They may have actually tweaked it so it doesn't activate as quickly or harshly. I do know some people disabled it on the Korean model. I haven't heard of anything bad happening but those few people may have felt dumb if it destroyed their phone and not posted that it did...
I have no heating problem with my lg g3 international D855 16gb model, even during quadrant test or playing games.
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Define an actual temperature for hot.
I disabled the thermal protection on my AT&T version and yes, I've felt it get quite hot while playing Final Fantasy 6. The heat radiated mainly through the metal power button but the entire top half of the device got pretty hot. Didn't bother me all that much tho, as I've had other devices get hot like that in the past.
I use exposed app CPU temp my g3 sits at about 30c and 45c which is normal temps and about 50ish whith thermal protection on disabled.
what heat issue
jutley said:
I use exposed app CPU temp my g3 sits at about 30c and 45c which is normal temps and about 50ish whith thermal protection on disabled.
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Do we have any official documentation from Qualcomm on how hot the cpu can safely be?
flaring afro said:
Do we have any official documentation from Qualcomm on how hot the cpu can safely be?
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Not sure it must be out there somewhere I am sure.
[email protected] said:
I disabled the thermal protection on my AT&T version and yes, I've felt it get quite hot while playing Final Fantasy 6. The heat radiated mainly through the metal power button but the entire top half of the device got pretty hot. Didn't bother me all that much tho, as I've had other devices get hot like that in the past.
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My girlfriend picked this up yesterday and this is happening to her G3. Not playing games though, just browsing the internet/reading an article. It makes no sense to me. How can you take control over that? She doesn't want to root the phone.
But yeah, just reading something or even looking at Facebook, the phone gets way too hot.
I picked up the Verizon version yesterday. It's gotten pretty warm around the power button a few times for me also. Typically not bad or what I would consider unusual with one or two exceptions.
My G3 (UK) go very very hot yesterday when I was on the train playing a graphically intensive game.
It shut itself down and then refused to turn on again. Ever.
I tried everything all night but no joy. I got a replacement handset today.
I'm sure it was because of the overheating that the phone malfunctioned. Without knowing exactly what has happened to it the timing is too coincidental for it to be random hardware failure. It was SUPER hot!
ShiroEd said:
My G3 (UK) go very very hot yesterday when I was on the train playing a graphically intensive game.
It shut itself down and then refused to turn on again. Ever.
I tried everything all night but no joy. I got a replacement handset today.
I'm sure it was because of the overheating that the phone malfunctioned. Without knowing exactly what has happened to it the timing is too coincidental for it to be random hardware failure. It was SUPER hot!
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This is strange. Does the kernel not shut the phone down before it "fries" the SOC?,unless the throttling temps are too high? Wonder if this is linked to the display flickering problem myself and another poster had.
Batfink33 said:
This is strange. Does the kernel not shut the phone down before it "fries" the SOC?,unless the throttling temps are too high? Wonder if this is linked to the display flickering problem myself and another poster had.
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Funny you mention display flickering. I had that about 2 weeks ago. The display started flickering really badly, like nothing I've ever seen on any Android device, and I needed to pull the battery to reset. It didn't boot straight away either, it had to cool down a bit.
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Define an actual temperature for hot.
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this.
all phones get warm if you are on it for an extended period of time, surfing (using data), gaming etc etc screen on for long periods of time. those saying they can game and not have heat are lying to you. phone gets warm when screen is on for extended period of time and by phone I mean any phone
ShiroEd said:
Funny you mention display flickering. I had that about 2 weeks ago. The display started flickering really badly, like nothing I've ever seen on any Android device, and I needed to pull the battery to reset. It didn't boot straight away either, it had to cool down a bit.
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Yeah, i had a flickering display which didnt go away.I returned that phone. Another poster yesterday had the same issue.Im wondering if the GPU is frying itself? Although the GPU does throttle as well as the CPU. Running Antutu I would get 60+deg C maybe playing a game for an extended period of time for example is causing damage? Just a theory.

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