TTS Voices do not mute the music when GPS speaks - MTCB Android Head Units Q&A

Hello everyone,
This is not my first post on this issue. Sorry for the long post, but I am sick of this issue.
I have an Eonon G2110F head unit - RK3188 / MCU: MTCB-KLD2-V2.67 / KitKat 4.4.4.
It is stock (with only simple "factory setting" root). This is the "universal model".
Everything functions correctly. But I have an issue only with part of the GPS function.
I have a confirmed "good" iGO Primo version from a reputable GPS forum (v2.4+). I have installed it with maps/pio, regular voices, and TTS voices on my phone and tables. It work 100% correct, the way it is supposed to (both when installed to internal memory and external memory). What I am specifically testing for is how my phone and table function when I am playing music at the same time that the GPS is running (on both the stock mp3 player or Poweramp player).
When I set iGO Primo to use its regular voices, the music mutes when the GPS announces directions, then the music un-mutes once the announcement finishes. This is 100% correct. When I set iGO Primo to use its TTS Pro voices (using the Android default TTS engine), the music mutes when the GPS announces directions (which now include street names), then the music un-mutes once the announcement finishes. This is 100% correct. So as you can see, my iGO Primo build is a good correct working version.
However, I can not say the same thing when I install the same iGO version on my head unit (on the GPS card slot). Overall the app works. Both the regular voices and the TTS voices work and announce directions correctly. But once I am playing music at the same time, that is when the issue starts (regardless if its the radio / stock mp3 player or Poweramp / iPod / CD - I have tested them all). When I set iGO Primo to use its regular voices, the music mutes when the GPS announces directions, then the music un-mutes once the announcement finishes. This is 100% correct....,
However, when I set iGO Primo to use TTS Pro voices (using the Android default TTS engine), the music does not mute when the GPS announces directions (which now include street names). Instead, both the music and the TTS voice are playing at the same time. The TTS voice is much lower in volume and is hard to hear over the music. This is not correct. I have tried several other iGO Primo versions that are know as good working builds. These all work on my phone and tablet. But they have the same issue on my head unit once TTS voices are used. I have even tried by installing the app to the internal memory or the external SD card slot of the head unit.
I feel there is some kind of disconnect between the app and the MCU audio stream once the TTS voices are used. Remember, when the regular voices are use, the app and the MCU audio stream both work in the correct way. But as soon as I switch to use TTS voices, then the MCU audio stream does not mute when the GPS announces directions.
Over the past year, I have read so much that my eyes are bleeding. I have tried almost everything. I have even worked with senior members at the GPS forums. I am sick of this. When iGO Primo is installed on my head unit it is laughing at me to my face. So now I am ready to go "Ninja Assassin" on it.
Is there any other solution out there to force the music to mute? Is there an Xposed module that can deal with this issue? Is there some kind of modification that need to be made (on either the app or the head unit). Otherwise, I will need a full professional developer to look at this and create a solution (for hire $$). I have seen several, several posts on the internet with similar issues - yet no solution. So I am ready to hire someone and pay to have a solution developed (for the good of the community).
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Again, sorry for the long post.
Thanks,
ggee

Tried using some TTS voices in other languages to see if the issue is related to the voice you're using?
Tried using another music player?
I have the same Eonon G2110F and use iGo Primo (one of the latest versions) with a dedicated Italian TTS voice and have no problem while listening to the radio (not tried iGo and music player together with active navigation).

themissionimpossible said:
Tried using some TTS voices in other languages to see if the issue is related to the voice you're using?
Tried using another music player?
I have the same Eonon G2110F and use iGo Primo (one of the latest versions) with a dedicated Italian TTS voice and have no problem while listening to the radio (not tried iGo and music player together with active navigation).
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Hello,
My issues happens with any music applications. It will happen with the stock MCU music apps (Radio / iPod / CD / Music ). And it will happen with third party music player (like Poweramp).
I have had people reply before who say they have no problems. But when I ask follow up questions and dig deeper, I discover they either don't use TTS voices, or don't play any music while driving (which is why they don't know of any problems). Or I find that they run the app from their phones/tables and bluetooth the audio/screen to the head unit. There is always something different about how they use it that explains why they do not have an issue. For example, they find out that they don't really have a legitimate iGO Primo version - instead it is some generic GPS app with an iGO skin and very limited features (yes, these do exist).
- Can you please let me know the specs of your head unit (firmware version / MCU version / Custom Rom if any)?
- Do you have any major software modifications on the head unit?
- Are you using the stock Android TTS Engine or a third party TTS Engine (like Vocalizer/Nuance)?
- Can you please let me know what version of iGO Primo you have and where you got it from (check the Settings/About screen in iGO for the exact version)?
- Can you share the TTS voice file, and the sys.txt file with me (this way I can test the setting on my head unit).
-If you can share your whole iGO Primo build with me that would be even better (minus your maps/pio/dem/buildings files)? You can PM if you prefer that way better.
I use a real iGO Primo version in a normal way, on a normal stock head unit. That is why I am asking the above questions. I personally feel there is an issues with the MCU.img that some how causes a disconnect to the android audio stream when using an "outside" TTS voice over the android TTS engine. By "outside" I mean that the GPS card slot is technically a separate memory area on these head units. Since iGO Primo is running from this "outside" memory area, it might be causing an issue, such that the MCU does not see a running TTS voice. Therefore, it does not know to mute the music (but when regular voice files are used, it somehow knows). This is what makes this so strange and freaking annoying.
Thanks again for any help,
ggee

I have the original Eonon MCU and ROM, rooted.
The iGo specific Italian TTS voice has been provided by an Italian iGo user forum, but I don't think the TTS voice matters for your issue.
Obviously no iGo version can be shared...
Anyway, I have never heard of similar problems, at least on the iGo Italian fora.
Maybe it's better to ask on some specific iGo forum, all those fora of course deal with Android head units...

themissionimpossible said:
I have the original Eonon MCU and ROM, rooted.
The iGo specific Italian TTS voice has been provided by an Italian iGo user forum, but I don't think the TTS voice matters for your issue.
Obviously no iGo version can be shared...
Anyway, I have never heard of similar problems, at least on the iGo Italian fora.
Maybe it's better to ask on some specific iGo forum, all those fora of course deal with Android head units...
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Hello,
Since you "can't" share anything
Can you at least tell me what MCU version you have on your head unit? In this way, I can see if I have the latest MCU version. If your version is newer, I can at least go back to the seller and ask them to send me the same or latest version (and flash my head unit).
For example, this is my version: MCU: MTCB-KLD2-V2.67
What version do you have?
There are many posts on the internet where people mention some type of volume issue with iGO Primo using TTS voices.
Also, can you at least tell me what forum you are referring to. If you have specific forum/post link information that would be better. As I mentioned in my original post, I have read and been to many other forums before. I have tried many things already. This is not me trying to be lazy. But if you have a specific forum, or a specific post - can let me know what it is? That would be of great help.
Thanks,
ggee

gguevara said:
Since you "can't" share anything
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It looks like that probably you're not completely aware that there are no "legitimate" versions of iGo for private users (maybe except in Israel), so of course I'm not going to share anything...
And for this reason too IMHO this kind of discussion shouldn't be carried on XDA and so I suggested you to better ask on other specialized fora.
That said, the last and final information I can give you on this subject are the current firmware version of my head unit, see the attached images.

themissionimpossible said:
It looks like that probably you're not completely aware that there are no "legitimate" versions of iGo for private users (maybe except in Israel), so of course I'm not going to share anything...
And for this reason too IMHO this kind of discussion shouldn't be carried on XDA and so I suggested you to better ask on other specialized fora.
That said, the last and final information I can give you on this subject are the current firmware version of my head unit, see the attached images.
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Hi "mission",
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the info about your MCU version. I have a lesser version, so I will ask the seller to send me the latest official MCU version (not BETA).
I will talk to you soon..., keep your eyes open
Thanks again,
ggee

You can find all the known MCU versions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3246386

themissionimpossible said:
You can find all the known MCU versions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3246386
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Hello,
Today I received the same mcu.img version that you have (for my exact KLD2 head unit). I noticed that my stock firmware is newer than yours, but your mcu version was newer than my.
Anyways, I updated the mcu to my head unit successfully. However, this has not resolved my TTS voice issue. It is acting in the same way. The music does not mute when the TTS voice on the GPS speaks. They both play at the same time. When listening to the radio, the TTS voice volume is much lower. When listing to MP3s on the stock MTC Music player, the TTS voice volume is about equal (the same thing when using PowerAmp, except the TTS voice volume is not as low as the radio scenario). Why Does Yours Work and My Does Not???
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Anyway,
This goes out to anyone else out there who is willing to actually help me with this (not just empty talk or drop their 2 cents). As I mentioned, I now believe this is an issue with the MTC side of the head unit. Something is affecting the MTC audio stream from acting properly when the TTS voice of the GPS speaks. I have tried everything I can get my hands on. This is so frustrating.
When I use Google Maps on the head unit, it acts 100% correct. Keep in mind that Google Maps exclusively uses the android TTS engine and TTS voices. Additionally, I have installed the same iGO on my phone, and it works 100% correct.
Can someone who is an expert on the MTC function of these head units please help me??? Or can someone point me to the right person(s)???
Do not hesitate to Private Message me if you want to "assist" me.
Anyone else...., Please!!!!!
Thanks,
ggee

There are more than one TTS engine available to try.
Try for ex. latest Vocalizer (Nuance).
Search on the net.

Hi
I think the issue may be that the software for the TTS is run from head unit system and not from the Igo software. The standard voices use the Igo software and Igo mutes the radio or any music. The TTS is actioned by the head unit.

Ok I'm back,
So just to quickly update you on my 2din issue. It is still an issue. Update finished.
Back to my install on my phone, though. As a reminder, I installed the same Igo Primo on my android phone just so that I could test to see if it would have the same TTS Pro voice issue as I am experiencing with my 2din (TTS does not mute music when speaking). I initially reported that my phone installation works 100% correctly when using TTS voices and playing music at the same time. The music mutes when the GPS speaks.
However, I noticed something the other day. When I initially tested with music on my phone, I initially used the default android music play on my Samsung Galaxy phone. This worked fine. But the default music player would also pick up the audio files from the Igo folders and list them within the music library. I do know there is a simple work around in order to stop the default music player from seeing the Igo folder (and not play the GPS audio files).
But instead I started playing music on my phone using the Power Amp player. Anyways, when I play music through Power Amp, the TTS Pro voices do the same thing as my 2din (which is that the music does not mute when the GPS speaks). Yet when I play music using the phone's default android player, this issue does not happen. So now, I have this question and issue to resolve. Maybe this will somehow explain why my 2din also does not mute the music when the GPS speaks (using TTS voices).
Does anyone have an idea on this.?I would think that the audio stream for music would be the same for both mp3 apps. So if I change the audio stream options on the Igo sys.txt file it should affect how it reacts with all apps. Not just one app and not the other. Is this a correct assumption? Does this mean that the default music player uses one audio stream (the same one used by Igo), and that Power Amp used another audio stream?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
ggee

Hello,
I want to pass this along in case there is someone out there with the same issue on their 2din android car head unit. Someone on another forum shot me a private message to try something as a workaround and it seems to have worked for me (I can live with it).
My issue was that when using iGO Primo with TTS voices, the head unit would not mute or lower the volume of music when the navigation voice speaks. It did not matter if I used android's built in Google-TTS engine or another third party engine. However, I did not have this issue when using the normal non-TTS voices (in this case the head unit worked correctly with muting/lowering the music).
So they suggested that I switch back to using the built in Google-TTS engine and the correct language in the android settings of the head unit. Then go into the head units GPS settings and assign the Google-TTS engine as the default GSP application. Doing this will mean that the hard GSP button on the head unit will no longer launch iGO Primo. But that is ok because I can launch it through the iGO icon/shortcut on the screen. Then make sure to go into the iGO Primo sound/volume settings and select the correct TTS voice, with the correct language that matches the language on the Google-TTS engine setting. Then properly exit from the iGO Primo app and reboot the head unit. That's it.
This somehow causes the head unit to function correctly when iGO Primo uses TTS voices. This workaround only works when using iGO Primo with TTS voices. It will not work when using normal non-TTS voices.
If you are using any third party TTS engine (like Nuance or Ivona) and try this workaround, it will not work properly. It will work at first until you shut off iGO Primo or the head unit reboots. When this happens, the settings get lost and you will need to redo the settings each time. But the settings "stick" when using the built in Google-TTS engine.
So far I have not had any issues in over two weeks. I hope this helps anyone else with the same annoying issue I had (look at my first post on this thread for a full description of the issue).
Thanks,
ggee

themissionimpossible said:
It looks like that probably you're not completely aware that there are no "legitimate" versions of iGo for private users
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Not true anymore. IGo is available in the PlayStore.

m00n61 said:
Not true anymore. IGo is available in the PlayStore.
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Finally!
Thanks for the news!

I am curious if you have gone to the GPS settings in the head unit under settings and modifie the volume setting fade in or out. I put mine to the highest seting and now the volume mute is good. hope this is what you meant and helps.

roscored1000 said:
I am curious if you have gone to the GPS settings in the head unit under settings and modifie the volume setting fade in or out. I put mine to the highest seting and now the volume mute is good. hope this is what you meant and helps.
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Changing GPS settings didn't help me. Setting gps app to Google TTS only works.

Since the navigation hardware key does not work anymore when GPS app assigned to Google TTS, can the key be assigned to iGO app directly? From Factory Settings menu all keys can be mapped to different functions, but cannot be mapped to android apps. Is there a solution for assigning apps to keys?

yves31 said:
Since the navigation hardware key does not work anymore when GPS app assigned to Google TTS, can the key be assigned to iGO app directly? From Factory Settings menu all keys can be mapped to different functions, but cannot be mapped to android apps. Is there a solution for assigning apps to keys?
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Use mtc-keys xposed module

I have the same problem with Sygic. TTS voices much lower than the system volume. And no way to higher them up. Sygic i think is only using the default google tts engine.... any idea??

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Bluetooth A2DP on my Tilt2: WORTHLESS AS $H!T

Ok, so I finally got into the smartphone game to get a better music streaming experience. MFRadio and MFScorn just weren't cutting it for me anymore. I hated the skips and the ridiculously long (and repeated) buffering time. So I first looked at Android phones but went with WinMo because they say you can run both OS's with WinMo (and the only Android offering from AT&T has a 12-hour standby time before the battery dies, according to reviews).
I have a Bluetooth head unit and have had over a dozen phones paired with it. This phone however is a completely different story. I have installed the latest "release" from AT&T (from a thread on this site). At first I tried streaming with the bundled Windows Media Player which apparently doesn't stream anything at all (with both the bundled and downloaded releases of the OS), then downloaded TCPMP. TCPMP is everything I have ever dreamed of in a streaming media player, but the only problem I have with it is that it won't connect to a stream unless I have already opened up a browser window and went to a website. Not the end of the world.
So, I get in my truck and initiate pairing to the phone. It sees the head unit as a Hands-free and as Stereo Audio. I can get it to connect for a split second and then it dies. I get a popup notification that tells me that the phone cannot control volume when paired to the bluetooth device and audio must be adjusted from the device itself. Fine. But then it doesn't work at all. At first, I wanted to blame TCPMP until I realized that nothing at all was working with the head unit. I think I got it to work once but it never worked again.
So is there any way to fix this problem? This is the one thing I wanted working on my new phone. Yes, the notifications that my texts were successfully sent are very annoying (as well as the other notifications), and yes, Windows Media Player for Mobile is useless, but the fact that I can't stream Bluetooth audio on this phone really makes this phone worthless to me. Didn't anyone bother testing this stuff before releasing this garbage? The Tilt is a paperweight to me right now because it can't do the one thing I want it to do the most. I might as well go back to my Sony Ericsson W760a at this point!
What can I do? I have not yet unlocked anything (although I have a SIM unlock code waiting) and have not yet flashed Hard-SPL. My phone has Bluetooth for Windows Mobile Version 1.9.2 Build 600 HCI Version 4.84. I'd do anything at this point to get this working. Windows Mobile is not that precious to me either. PLEASE HELP!
e-thug said:
Ok, so I finally got into the smartphone game to get a better music streaming experience. MFRadio and MFScorn just weren't cutting it for me anymore. I hated the skips and the ridiculously long (and repeated) buffering time. So I first looked at Android phones but went with WinMo because they say you can run both OS's with WinMo (and the only Android offering from AT&T has a 12-hour standby time before the battery dies, according to reviews).
I have a Bluetooth head unit and have had over a dozen phones paired with it. This phone however is a completely different story. I have installed the latest "release" from AT&T (from a thread on this site). At first I tried streaming with the bundled Windows Media Player which apparently doesn't stream anything at all (with both the bundled and downloaded releases of the OS), then downloaded TCPMP. TCPMP is everything I have ever dreamed of in a streaming media player, but the only problem I have with it is that it won't connect to a stream unless I have already opened up a browser window and went to a website. Not the end of the world.
So, I get in my truck and initiate pairing to the phone. It sees the head unit as a Hands-free and as Stereo Audio. I can get it to connect for a split second and then it dies. I get a popup notification that tells me that the phone cannot control volume when paired to the bluetooth device and audio must be adjusted from the device itself. Fine. But then it doesn't work at all. At first, I wanted to blame TCPMP until I realized that nothing at all was working with the head unit. I think I got it to work once but it never worked again.
So is there any way to fix this problem? This is the one thing I wanted working on my new phone. Yes, the notifications that my texts were successfully sent are very annoying (as well as the other notifications), and yes, Windows Media Player for Mobile is useless, but the fact that I can't stream Bluetooth audio on this phone really makes this phone worthless to me. Didn't anyone bother testing this stuff before releasing this garbage? The Tilt is a paperweight to me right now because it can't do the one thing I want it to do the most. I might as well go back to my Sony Ericsson W760a at this point!
What can I do? I have not yet unlocked anything (although I have a SIM unlock code waiting) and have not yet flashed Hard-SPL. My phone has Bluetooth for Windows Mobile Version 1.9.2 Build 600 HCI Version 4.84. I'd do anything at this point to get this working. Windows Mobile is not that precious to me either. PLEASE HELP!
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Hmmmm .... I don't believe you ever stated what type of headset you are trying to get working here? I find your problem to be very strange, even though WinMo does seem to be lacking in a lot of different areas, audio streaming via bluetooth stereo headset is definitely not a problem I have encountered. It even streams flawlessly through my 5.1 hooked to my pc via a crappy 8 buck bt dongle and still sounds excellent. Have you considered that the problem may lie with your bt headset itself?
Also, when you say that you installed latest "release" from AT&T (from a thread on this site), what exactly do you mean? I am running the "unofficial" leaked rom from AT&T on mine and I just paired my Motorola S9 stereo headset and it is playing great for me. You also may want to try using some different software, give S2P (Slide 2 Play) a try and see if you have different results. That's what I am using right now, but I have used TCPMP to play a few xVids through my headset and have had no problems.
The problem is not in the head unit. 25 other phones can't all be wrong. I have no problem using my bluetooth headset. That is probably why you don't see the problem. Anything more complex than a headset will not work with this release. The problem lies within the phone as soon as it displays a notification (which, of course I cannot disable) which reads, "The connected Bluetooth headset does not support volume adjustment from the device. Adjust volume on the headset itself."
That message is the kiss of death. So basically any Bluetooth head unit will not work with this phone? Sounds like shoddy programming to me. Yes, I am using the "leaked" release. I really don't think this release will ever see the light of day. Its horrible! You cannot disable notifications (I don't need to know when my text messages were sent successfully), and it looks like whenever I get a system notification, any program I am using crashes immediately. Like I said before, as soon as I get a notification, I lose the Bluetooth connection (which is like a split second before the notification comes up). I highly doubt this "leaked" copy will ever see the light of day, officially (unless AT&T and HTC do absolutely zero testing on it).
A little clarification for those who don't know... when I say "head unit" I'm talking about a Bluetooth-enabled car stereo and when I say "headset" I mean a Bluetooth headset
My Tilt 2 works absolutely fine with all my BT devices, including 2 Motorola headphone sets and my Sony Xplod head unit in my truck.
e-thug said:
A little clarification for those who don't know... when I say "head unit" I'm talking about a Bluetooth-enabled car stereo and when I say "headset" I mean a Bluetooth headset
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I was mis-understanding you about the head unit, I did think you were talking about a headset. Sorry bout that, my Mustang doesn't have built-in BT so I have to use a Motorokr t505 for those chores. It works well but it does give me the same message that you are getting about "volume can't be cotrolled etc" but I can dismiss it and carry on without any problems.
but the fact that I can't stream Bluetooth audio on this phone really makes this phone worthless to me. Didn't anyone bother testing this stuff before releasing this garbage? The Tilt is a paperweight to me right now because it can't do the one thing I want it to do the most. I might as well go back to my Sony Ericsson W760a at this point!
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Since you don't need your phone for calls, just get Sirius or XM. Ya know, considering you only stream music through the phone..
Did you try the BT headset or head unit with the original stock ROM before you flashed the "leaked official" ROM?
Seems like you might have a couple random issues, with the BT issues and the system notifications crashing programs. I haven't flashed the leaked ROM, but I do know that many random issues with cooked ROMs can often be cleared up by running Task29, which completely wipes the phone memory before you flash a new ROM. I think you will need to HardSPL before you run Task29. Might be worth a try, sometimes fragments of the old ROM interfere with the new one, and cause some bugs.
Bluetooth protocols can be implemented differently by different manufacturers.
I know of many people including myself who have NO PROBLEM with the tilt 2 and different Bluetooth products INCLUDING car radios.
I am using the "new" AT&T ROM and have no difficulties.
Clearly your pissed but your subject is wrong. I would suggest changing to "Worthless as $HIT to ME"
I think my problem is that I am getting notifications which seem to be killing my connection. Is there a way to turn all notifications OFF? The only ones I care about are missed calls, incoming SMS and maybe a birthday. I would like to try to kill the notifications first because I think this may solve my problem
You can get yourself a free reg editor (like Total Commander) and apply the following tweaks to modify the notifications:
SMS sent notification: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/06/24/enable-or-disable-the-sms-text-message-sent-notification-bubble/
Other notifications: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/06/24/tweak-and-configure-how-notifications-work-in-windows-mobile-notifications/
Although, this sounds like a band-aid just hiding a deeper problem. What you are describing is not typical behavior, and this is something else going on.
redpoint73 said:
You can get yourself a free reg editor (like Total Commander) and apply the following tweaks to modify the notifications:
SMS sent notification: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...he-sms-text-message-sent-notification-bubble/
Other notifications: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...cations-work-in-windows-mobile-notifications/
Although, this sounds like a band-aid just hiding a deeper problem. What you are describing is not typical behavior, and this is something else going on.
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Thanks I will try these out and report back
For the record my head unit is a JVC KD-BT11 and I have never had any kind of problem pairing any other phone
Somebody else just posted a very similar issue, and found the app hAndyUtils to be helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741311
I think hAndyUtils might just be a app-based way to make the reg edits I posted earlier. But give it a try.
I scanned through the topic and did not see anyone mention this so I thought I would add my .02. The Tilt 2 is different than many other WM phones when it comes to bluetooth as it contains the Widcomm BT stack instead of the MS stack. (Just as an aside, on all my past phones, there were people bemoaning the the fact that it had MS, and trying to replace it with the Widcomm, so I am getting a real chuckle out of folks complaining about the Widcomm and wishing for MS )
In any case, the utilities (Blue music toggle etc...) that used to work for me to toggle between streaming in stereo and plain phone qulity no longer work. However, all my stereo headsets (I own three different brands/pairs) all work perfectly with the Tilt 2. And stay connected and streaming all day.
By the way, coming on a forum that is full of people helping each other and using profanity, anger and threats, is not the most conducive way to get your questions answered. The odds are that the problem you are having is already solved somewhere among the 6+ million posts in this forum. I do not know where or I would post it for you, but it is probably out there. Good luck. And if you find it, please post the link to the answer back here so that other serchers will find it too.
maybe it can come from the phone itself
i had a rhodium for almost a year and never got my motorola headset ht820 to work well enough for me to use it... (more skips than music...cant move my head without a skip)
i flashed to a NRG rom before trying my headset...i tried eveything as far as ref setting, different radios...even flashed my ht820...
no improvement...
then my phone fell in water not so long ago...got another rhodium same model (european)...and it worked perfect out the box on stock rom i can go in a different room than my device and still hear music with no skips...and it still does with nrg rom and latest radio...
so my guess is maybe some actual devices have bad bluetooth hardware ???
I have the Motorola S9 and the HT820 and both work absolutely fine on my Tilt 2.
yatrg said:
I scanned through the topic and did not see anyone mention this so I thought I would add my .02. The Tilt 2 is different than many other WM phones when it comes to bluetooth as it contains the Widcomm BT stack instead of the MS stack.
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Can I change my Bluetooth stack to MS? I have installed Hard-SPL and have experimented with cooked ROMs to no avail.
I sent the phone back to AT&T, went to Trinidad & Tobago for a few weeks and came home to a new Tilt 2 waiting at my doorstep (which could have been stolen by anyone!) and I am still having the same problem. So I guess I sent back a perfectly good phone!
I would love to try some different Bluetooth stacks if possible. Where do I go from here?
e-thug said:
Can I change my Bluetooth stack to MS? I have installed Hard-SPL and have experimented with cooked ROMs to no avail.
I sent the phone back to AT&T, went to Trinidad & Tobago for a few weeks and came home to a new Tilt 2 waiting at my doorstep (which could have been stolen by anyone!) and I am still having the same problem. So I guess I sent back a perfectly good phone!
I would love to try some different Bluetooth stacks if possible. Where do I go from here?
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Did you ever try the solution in this thread? It fixed a lot of issues people were having with bluetooth car kits. Maybe it will work for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591322
The solution source is here: http://www.everythingwm.com/forum/moto-q-9c/q9c-and-infiniti-g35x-bluetooth-problem-16833-4.html
And here is the solution. You need a registry editor to do this:
1. Modify the HandsFree plug-in:
HKLM\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugin\HandsFree
i. Change SupportedFeatures to 45 (default is 1135)
ii. Add value HFBDA binary, set to same value as LastConnectedBda
iii. Add value HFDeviceType decimal 2
2. Modify the WIDCOMM bluetooth general settings:
HKLM\Software\WIDCOMM\BtConfig\General
i. Change bdaddr to (no value)
ii. Change (or add if not there) DisableReopenAudio to 0 (default is 1)
3. Reboot device
You may also want to do the A2DP quality registry edit: Add a DWORD value of LineSpeed to HKLM\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugin\AV\ with a value of 320.
Give it a try, it may work for you.
I will give this a try and report back. Thank you very much for the response!
No luck. And my bdaddr keeps resetting to a binary value when I reset the phone

Bluetooth AVRCP 1.3 - Cannot hear media

so... I think I've narrowed down my issues with newer ROMs coming out and my bluetooth not working in the car anymore. just a little background information,
- 2011 Toyota Camry SE w/ JBL Audio
- Verizon Galaxy Nexus using various ROMs
prior to any newer releases, I would use voice/audio over bluetooth, ran great without a problem. I didn't get metadata on screen but was ok. pandora, spotify, notification sounds, google music, etc... worked like a charm.
well... now I noticed that only voice calls & google music work over bluetooth connection in the car. I thought this was first an issue with pairing the device to the car, so I deleted all the profiles in the car and redid connection on phone. I still couldn't get sound out of any other media application i.e.; pandora, youtube, notifcations, spotify, etc... I could only get google music to work correctly. the apps not working look like they are playing, I turn off bluetooth on phone and it continues playing, but when bluetooth is on I hear nothing.
so after researching, I see that majority of new releases include AVRCP 1.3 which pushes metadata to the displays. I noticed this now works with google music, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to get other media services working properly. I've researched on RW, Google, other Android forums and can see some have similar issues, but the thread soon dies. [/background]
can anyone tell me if I can use an updated ROM with AVRCP 1.0 instead of AVRCP 1.3 to test? does anyone have suggestions I could try to get other media services working? thanks!
RBalber said:
so... I think I've narrowed down my issues with newer ROMs coming out and my bluetooth not working in the car anymore. just a little background information,
- 2011 Toyota Camry SE w/ JBL Audio
- Verizon Galaxy Nexus using various ROMs
prior to any newer releases, I would use voice/audio over bluetooth, ran great without a problem. I didn't get metadata on screen but was ok. pandora, spotify, notification sounds, google music, etc... worked like a charm.
well... now I noticed that only voice calls & google music work over bluetooth connection in the car. I thought this was first an issue with pairing the device to the car, so I deleted all the profiles in the car and redid connection on phone. I still couldn't get sound out of any other media application i.e.; pandora, youtube, notifcations, spotify, etc... I could only get google music to work correctly. the apps not working look like they are playing, I turn off bluetooth on phone and it continues playing, but when bluetooth is on I hear nothing.
so after researching, I see that majority of new releases include AVRCP 1.3 which pushes metadata to the displays. I noticed this now works with google music, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to get other media services working properly. I've researched on RW, Google, other Android forums and can see some have similar issues, but the thread soon dies. [/background]
can anyone tell me if I can use an updated ROM with AVRCP 1.0 instead of AVRCP 1.3 to test? does anyone have suggestions I could try to get other media services working? thanks!
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I think it's AVRCP 1.3 in CM 10 based roms that breaks this. I just switched to jelly belly 9 (4.1.2) which rolled back bluetooth profiles back to AVRCP 1.0 and pandora etc. works but without media info obviously. I also saw a AVRCP 1.3 patch for Pandora somewhere that may make it work. It's possible that the problem isn't that the ROM is not compatible, but that the Apps aren't.
osurferx said:
I think it's AVRCP 1.3 in CM 10 based roms that breaks this. I just switched to jelly belly 9 (4.1.2) which rolled back bluetooth profiles back to AVRCP 1.0 and pandora etc. works but without media info obviously. I also saw a AVRCP 1.3 patch for Pandora somewhere that may make it work. It's possible that the problem isn't that the ROM is not compatible, but that the Apps aren't.
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Ok... I've confirmed it has to be AVRCP 1.3
Last night I took advice. I installed Jelly Belly 9 "4.1.2" w/ reverted AVRCP 1.0 because of BT issues, and this morning I went to work, tested connection with BT and everything worked! So... Looks like the issue lies with AVRCP 1.3. I don't see metadata on screen anymore but it doesn't bother me, I'd rather have all other media players working.
To touch on what others are saying, statements Google Music works perfectly fine with AVRCP 1.3 based ROM's as well as voice through BT. It's just the other media players i.e; pandora, slacker, youtube, notifications, etc.... that don't work. I'm guessing from what I read, is that the applications do not support AVRCP 1.3 and will not push to Toyota head units properly. Not sure if this is going to get fixed or not, but sucks because this limits what I can/can't use for ROMs at least a solution was found and reason why. Thanks bud!
You could also try https://github.com/loganakamatsu/PandoraAVRCP for the Pandora patch. Maybe patches exist for other apps as well...
I read on another thread that any app that supports the Scrobble Droid API hxxp://code.google.com/p/scrobbledroid/wiki/DeveloperAPI will pass the meta info to AVRCP. So I assume if you install ScrobbleDroid app hxxps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.jjc1138.android.scrobbler&hl=en from the play store any app that it is compatible with will also pass the meta info to the display.
As noted, Pandora is not supported as it does not broadcast its intents. I personally had issues getting the PandoraAVRCP github to patch. If anyone has a patched pandora.apk, I would certainly appreciate a PM.
Good luck.

Voice Dial / Commands?

I have a KLD rk3188 unit. It has been great, except for one problem. No voice control. My car's built in Bluetooth supported voice dial perfectly, but i cant seem to get it to talk through the canbus to the head unit. Thus i am dependent on what the radio offers me. Sadly, I can't make voice work. Downloaded the Google App. Tried using Google Now, but when I tap the microphone, the app crashes.
Any tips?
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Bump. Not being able to hands-free dial is a major problem.
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i too have got the same setup today and looking for some help with voice commands. If I find something will post here..
Apparently some of the pumpkin models now use a parrot bluetooth module that supports voice commands.
http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...link-obd2-wifi-3g-steering-wheel-control.html
Otherwise it seems the same as the other MTCB models. Wonder if its possible to replace the bluetooth with the FC6000TN modules they are using?
shaiq123 said:
i too have got the same setup today and looking for some help with voice commands. If I find something will post here..
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I am using the latest Malaysk ROM dated 10th January 2016 for RK3188 1024*600. It lets me speak Ok Google and Call (contact name) to the phone when after pressing the call button. The way it works for me is:
1. Whatever is playing on the unit, it stops when I press the call button on my steering;
2. It launches the unit's dial screen;
3. I say 'OK Google', it launches the ok google listener on the phone;
4. I say 'Call (contact name)' and it calls.
Few things I had to manage before this started working was:
1. Enable the option to receive commands over bluetooth in Google Now settings in the phone;
2. Enable to XPOSED MTC in the XPOSED framework in the head unit;
3. Change the setting to integrate with phone's google now interface (something like that) in XPOSED MTC module.
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Bump. Not being able to hands-free dial is a major problem.
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...t/app-modeswitch-spotify-swc-control-t3310966
Hello Sir
Can you tutorial with more detail? I installed XposedMTC. I want to use voice speech dial to call but It is not success. If you know way., please tell me
Thank you so much
I have Klyde MTCC unit with a Parrot BT board. Voice dial works great. It works just like the one in this video.
What I'd really like to know is how is the microphone overlay added. The microphone icon can be moved freely on the screen, even on the factory home screen. I have changed several ROMs, both 4.4 and 5.1 and it is always there. AFAIK only units with the Parrot BT board have this.
vodoinhoc9x said:
Hello Sir
Can you tutorial with more detail? I installed XposedMTC. I want to use voice speech dial to call but It is not success. If you know way., please tell me
Thank you so much
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I've been able to accomplish this using Tasker and AutoVoice. It doesn't actually make the call, but you can use all voice commands to get the contact screen up with the results of your voice query to pick the person you want to dial.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...tcd-device-t3598908/post72542268#post72542268
I've found a app called Toppal. It is designed to run on Android head units. You have to buy a licence, which I have not done yet, but it dials through the bluetooth app.

Change apps audio channel?

Something seems to have messed around - I'm not able to listen to music (MP3 or Radio) while iGo is active... Navigon is working fine, but iGo seems to use the same audio channel as Radio. Is there any possibility to change that?
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Something seems to have messed around - I'm not able to listen to music (MP3 or Radio) while iGo is active... Navigon is working fine, but iGo seems to use the same audio channel as Radio. Is there any possibility to change that?
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I have a Pumpkin head unit KD-C0224 and encountered the same issue before.
Then I contact Pumpkin and the customer service suggest enter*the*settings-》GPS, then change the GPS sound mode to “Mix” option and setup the GPS mixing ratio. Finally, solved.
You can ask the seller for help.

Need App Suggestions for XTRONS TR100

I'm a new member and have recently purchased an XTRONS TR100. I've already spent countless hours trying various apps, with mixed luck.
I purchased this head unit for GPS (with offline capability), Bluetooth for Telephone Calls, and Music. I also intend to install a Rear-View Camera (already purchased). I am also considering the FCC Car Launcher. So far, all that works well is the supplied music player. I've tried numerous GPS apps, but either the sound is chopped up, the maps disappear from the screen during a trip, or the app just stops working abruptly, and won't restart during the same trip. The supplied Bluetooth app has a nasty echo, and I consider it unusable.
For GPS, I've tried TomTom Go, CoPilot, Sygic, Offline Maps and Navigation, and several others that don't come to mind at the moment. In case it makes a difference, I'm located in Northeast US.
I would greatly appreciate any ideas that would give me a relatively stable operating head unit with the described features. The specifications are as follows
XTRONS TR100
UltraOcta-T9
MCU: 5.3.19-94-10-E06101-180111
Version: V9.2.2_20180518.151736_HC2-FD
32 GB ROM
2 GB DDR3 RAM
I am not above tinkering with the firmware, and have already installed updated firmware provided by the manufacturer, without success.
Thanks in advance for any help.

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