T-Mobile JUMP s-off - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

I'm getting tired of my g5 with no root
. So my question is, since I have the jump on demand and usually keep my phones about 6 months, is s-off really worth it for me?
I root, Xposed, rom and adblock. Nothing special.

Josh McGrath said:
I'm getting tired of my g5 with no root
. So my question is, since I have the jump on demand and usually keep my phones about 6 months, is s-off really worth it for me?
I root, Xposed, rom and adblock. Nothing special.
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you dont need S-Off for any of the things you mentioned...

Chord_Hugo87 said:
you dont need S-Off for any of the things you mentioned...
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Thank you for the reply. I'll probably pick my m10 up today. I'm done screwing with LG g5 no root ☺

http://www.xda-developers.com/lg-g5-on-t-mobile-bears-unlockable-bootloader-afterall/
G5 has an unlockable bootloader (and thus root is possible if not out already.) In fact, the process is basically the same as the Nexus phones. The G4 and V10 were the same way.

OP, the devs over at the G5 T-Mobile subforum just achieved root+twrp last night. Take a look if you're still holding on to the phone.

qyrus said:
OP, the devs over at the G5 T-Mobile subforum just achieved root+twrp last night. Take a look if you're still holding on to the phone.
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Yeah I still have my g5 and the m10 so I cant decide honestly. I am far from impressed with the m10 battery and camera
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Josh McGrath said:
Yeah I still have my g5 and the m10 so I cant decide honestly. I am far from impressed with the m10 battery and camera
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Lmk your findings. I have the 10 from tmobile and I may switch it with the g5. The dac is fantastic but the battery life and camera aren't the best specially coming from the s7 edge exynos where camera and battery life are above par
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Ya the s7 has the easiest to use camera too. I still haven't made my mind up. The g5 camera is much easier to use. I am no expect, I just point and shoot. The battery on the g5 seems to be okay but you can swap it out unlike the m10.
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Does tmo care if you're S-OFF for RMA replacements?

Pilz said:
Does tmo care if you're S-OFF for RMA replacements?
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No they don't. I would at least flash a stock or stock looking rom but they people who rebuild the phones are usually too dumb to know anyway but I've sent every HTC phone back with soff too
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Josh McGrath said:
No they don't. I would at least flash a stock or stock looking rom but they people who rebuild the phones are usually too dumb to know anyway but I've sent every HTC phone back with soff too
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Good to hear I had to RMA mine because something is wrong with the antenna/radio since day 1. I'm going to flash the stock TMO ROM again then relock the BL and maybe write the flag to S-ON

Josh McGrath said:
No they don't. I would at least flash a stock or stock looking rom but they people who rebuild the phones are usually too dumb to know anyway but I've sent every HTC phone back with soff too
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Is it the same to return the device? Flash the stock backup, relock the bt, think I'd be okay? Returning two devices, one is untouched.
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Going back to S-ON is a bit trickier without a RUU. If anything is messed up, you brick the phone. I wouldn't set the secure flag just in case. T-Mobile takes Knox tripped phones and that's permanent so I don't see why they wouldn't take S-OFF which is not.

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How is the One X and how is the rom support?

Hi guys, looking at buying a One X possibly tomorrow, tossing up between that and a Nexus, so I'm just wondering how the roms are for the One X, are they fully functioning? How is Jellybean? Does the camera work 100%?. I just want to make sure I'm making the right decision, I don't like sense tho haven't used it since 2.3.4, so I'm looking to rom basically as soon as I get it, and I need to know if everything is working, or if there are missing things and big features missing etc. Also how do you like your One X?
here we are again... everything is alright (for me) and official JB is near
Thanks for the reply. So everything is unlocked and relatively easy to flash roms and all that? Just don't want to make a very expensive mistake that's all
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JDogg1329 said:
Thanks for the reply. So everything is unlocked and relatively easy to flash roms and all that? Just don't want to make a very expensive mistake that's all
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we don't have S-OFF unfortunately, but you can flash rom without problems
matt95 said:
we don't have S-OFF unfortunately, but you can flash rom without problems
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Yeah I've read about that .In your opinion are the specs worth the harder flashing compared to the nexus ?does unlocking the bootloader still boid your warranty?
JDogg1329 said:
Yeah I've read about that .In your opinion are the specs worth the harder flashing compared to the nexus ?does unlocking the bootloader still boid your warranty?
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Its not hard at all to be honest !
And yes its worth it, its an amazing device.
And now with the build quality being FINALLY issue free(ish) then yeah I'd go for the HOX.
The dev section is extremely active and the ROMs and support are brilliant.
Can't comment for the Nexus though as I only have the Nexus 7, but again that is active and good support.
So if I was you, I'd pick the one that looks/feels more of a phone for "you" and don't worry about unlocking etc. As it can be done on both
And on that note, I think the HOX is a much nicer looking phone.
YES IT VOIDS WARRANTY AS ALWAYS.
Hope this helps.
Depends on which Nexus you're talking about.
LG Nexus > HOX > GNexus
Michealtbh said:
Depends on which Nexus you're talking about.
LG Nexus > HOX > GNexus
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Gnexus. Hmmmmmmmmmmm tough call.I think the one x is the way to go then. I'll keep it stock for a while and eventually flash a ROM. Have there been many hard bricks ?had bad experiences with HTC and bad emmc chips
Wilks3y said:
Its not hard at all to be honest !
And yes its worth it, its an amazing device.
And now with the build quality being FINALLY issue free(ish) then yeah I'd go for the HOX.
The dev section is extremely active and the ROMs and support are brilliant.
Can't comment for the Nexus though as I only have the Nexus 7, but again that is active and good support.
So if I was you, I'd pick the one that looks/feels more of a phone for "you" and don't worry about unlocking etc. As it can be done on both
And on that note, I think the HOX is a much nicer looking phone.
YES IT VOIDS WARRANTY AS ALWAYS.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you .I'm pretty convinced now
go for it
I'll report back when it's in my hands
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Can a Verizon HTC One with 4.4.2 OTA be rooted yet?

The 25th of February was the last time I asked this, and it's been a week and a day since then, so I figured that its an appropriate time to ask.
Can a stock Verizon HTC One (the standard One, not Max, not Mini, not dual-SIM) running stock Android 4.4.2 KitKat OTA be rooted yet?
Thanks,
Andrew
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nikalsaki said:
The 25th of February was the last time I asked this, and it's been a week and a day since then, so I figured that its an appropriate time to ask.
Can a stock Verizon HTC One (the standard One, not Max, not Mini, not dual-SIM) running stock Android 4.4.2 KitKat OTA be rooted yet?
Thanks,
Andrew
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Nope. You'll see a thread pop up when its possible. Just scan around the Verizon HTC One forums. When an update happens there's usually chatter in the Rumrunner thread.
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It'll happen when it happens. I want to root my phone as much as the next guy, particularly so that the titanium backup app I paid good money for will have a purpose, but having previously come from a sprint gs II, the "stock" version of this phone is leagues ahead of others I've seen. Root is almost unnecessary.
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Aganar said:
Root is almost unnecessary.
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I agree with you 99%. In fact the only reason I want to root this phone is so I can install adaway.
Tethering
I need root to tether as the 4.4.2 update killed Foxfi. There is no way in HELL I am paying $30 to Verizon just to tether my phone to my computer (I have unlimited data)
KOAO said:
I need root to tether as the 4.4.2 update killed Foxfi. There is no way in HELL I am paying $30 to Verizon just to tether my phone to my computer (I have unlimited data)
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Not to mention you would also lose you unlimited data if you did go with Verizon's service. I'm in the same boat, my Foxfi got killed with the update and I considered paying for the mobile hotspot feature but said hell no to giving up my unlim data.
Aganar said:
Root is almost unnecessary.
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Can't agree with you. Verizon installs a bunch of unneeded software which just drains your battery. Also you can't create a hot-spot. That's ridiculous - they're taking money for a built-in android feature. So having root gives you a real advantage of re-flashing your device with custom firmware and getting rid of all the limitations Verizon put on you.
k-unker said:
Can't agree with you. Verizon installs a bunch of unneeded software which just drains your battery. Also you can't create a hot-spot. That's ridiculous - they're taking money for a built-in android feature. So having root gives you a real advantage of re-flashing your device with custom firmware and getting rid of all the limitations Verizon put on you.
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You can disable most of the bloat software. Just go into your settings, go to app manager, go to all and tap on whatever you want to disable. It will make it like the app was never there.
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You can disable most of the bloat software. Just go into your settings, go to app manager, go to all and tap on whatever you want to disable. It will make it like the app was never there.
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That doesn't exactly fix the problem of the apps taking up valuable space. I kinda agree with both of you. I think that without root this phone, unlike the S4 and others, is mostly enjoyable and still smooth. However, with root it just adds a nice amount of gravy. I like being able to perform nandroids/flash firmwares/etc, use Titanium Backup, flash any rom I please with useful features (like double tap to wake so I don't have to use the poorly placed power button), use Xposed modules, use Adaway, use emulators with a PS3 controller, etc etc.
Root vs not rooted is irrelevant to the OP. The OP wants root.
I highly recommend checking with sonic or checking with mobile tech videos.
It is probably possible to downgrade the firmware to make the phone vulnerable to S-off
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Disagree with those who say rooting is unnecessary. It is like opening a window to endless opportunities on your phone , sort of like Alice through the Looking Glass. It is very worth it. I have been rooted since version 4.2 and to me defines the very concept of Android being open source. Verizon tries to limit the Android like Apple does to the iPhone.
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xdadevnube said:
Root vs not rooted is irrelevant to the OP. The OP wants root.
I highly recommend checking with sonic or checking with mobile tech videos.
It is probably possible to downgrade the firmware to make the phone vulnerable to S-off
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It's not possible to downgrade firmware..unless, of course, you're s-off. If there's a way to achieve s-off for the VZW HTC One on 4.4.2, it will be seen here in the VZW HTC One forums. There's a new thread everyday asking the same question.
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brholt6 said:
It's not possible to downgrade firmware..unless, of course, you're s-off. If there's a way to achieve s-off for the VZW HTC One on 4.4.2, it will be seen here in the VZW HTC One forums. There's a new thread everyday asking the same question.
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Are you sure that Sonic's card method or Mobile Tech Videos can't do it?
Unless you confirm with them, I still suspect it is possible.
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xdadevnube said:
Are you sure that Sonic's card method or Mobile Tech Videos can't do it?
Unless you confirm with them, I still suspect it is possible.
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I'm 100% positive you can't downgrade firmware. Sonics java card is the only other possibility. Don't think anyone has had any luck contacting him, though (check out the java card s-off thread). I know I tried before 4.3 was exploited. If mobile tech videos had a method, you would have seen a thread somewhere in this forum.
Basically all I was getting at is that if there's a way to achieve s-off on 4.4.2, there would be chatter here.
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brholt6 said:
I'm 100% positive you can't downgrade firmware. Sonics java card is the only other possibility. Don't think anyone has had any luck contacting him, though (check out the java card s-off thread). I know I tried before 4.3 was exploited. If mobile tech videos had a method, you would have seen a thread somewhere in this forum.
Basically all I was getting at is that if there's a way to achieve s-off on 4.4.2, there would be chatter here.
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No offense, but you are saying neither Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos have been contacted...
Therefore, your conclusion that it is not possible to downgrade firmware is based on nothing.
Like I said, until I see it from the horses mouth, it is still a possibility. Sonic has achieved S-off for many people and I haven't seen anything to tarnish his good reputation. The Java card will likely work on the latest update.
I do not speak for Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos. Until either party provides a confirmation themselves, I WILL NOT FALSLEY CONCLUDE IT IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY.
People said the exact and thing about the VZW Note 2. AS IT TURNS OUT, Mobile Tech Videos can downgrade the firmware on the VZW Note 2 with JTag. They confirmed when they were emailed. They charge 75$ for the valuable service.
You may be correct in that there is currently no cost free method to downgrade the firmware on the VZW HTC One on the latest OTA.
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xdadevnube said:
No offense, but you are saying neither Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos have been contacted...
Therefore, your conclusion that it is not possible to downgrade firmware is based on nothing.
Like I said, until I see it from the horses mouth, it is still a possibility. Sonic has achieved S-off for many people and I haven't seen anything to tarnish his good reputation. The Java card will likely work on the latest update.
I do not speak for Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos. Until either party provides a confirmation themselves, I WILL NOT FALSLEY CONCLUDE IT IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY.
People said the exact and thing about the VZW Note 2. AS IT TURNS OUT, Mobile Tech Videos can downgrade the firmware on the VZW Note 2 with JTag. They confirmed when they were emailed. They charge 75$ for the valuable service.
You may be correct in that there is currently no cost free method to downgrade the firmware on the VZW HTC One on the latest OTA.
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SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO
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brholt6 said:
SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO
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I'll give it a shot. It's better than useless naysaying and spreading FUD without the info to back it up.
I will get back with an answer. Unless you beat me to it.
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xdadevnube said:
I'll give it a shot. It's better than useless naysaying and spreading FUD without the info to back it up.
I will get back with an answer. Unless you beat me to it.
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I'm s-off so I don't really care what you come up with. But I'm not just BS'ing. It would be great if people had the option to downgrade firmware so hopefully you can prove me wrong (since you're calling BS on the ability to downgrade...the java card gets you s-off, it doesn't downgrade your firmware. You're only hope is mobile tech to prove me wrong).
Anyways, bickering is even more useless than calling BS with nothing to back it up. I really do wish you luck...it would make a lot of people happy.
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Mobile Tech Videos confirmed that they can indeed S-off any, including Kitkat 4.4.2 OTA, VZW HTC One units.
They are charging $75.
No response from the PayPal email address that was used for the transaction with Sonic's S-off procedure. Not yet, anyway.
Mobile Tech Videos has a good reputation and I'm confident they will be true to their word.
Also, there is a new thread unveiling Jcases's root method for 4.4.2 to be unveiled in August.
Certainly not definitive, but I tried numerous times without success to contact Sonic about the java card S-off... I tried PM, text message, tweet, and email with no response. As, I am one of the unlucky ones with the 4.4.2 OTA, I may try the Mobile Tech Videos... anyone ever used them for an HTC Verizon device?

Anyone switch from g5 to m10?

Just wondering what your thoughts are compared with the two batteries and also camera. I can't decide which to keep now that both are rooted.
If there is anyone who has switches from. The g5 that is
You have both? Why bother with someone else's opinion if you have both lol
PunishedSnake said:
You have both? Why bother with someone else's opinion if you have both lol
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Lol because I have to return one but don't know which one ?
Josh McGrath said:
Lol because I have to return one but don't know which one ?
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Lol don't go by someone else's opinion
Which one would you prefer?
Well. I had the m9 so that left a very bad battery experience. I may have a bad. M10 cause the camera only focuses about a quarter of the time and also flashes the whatever thing is blocked when my finger is no where near it
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Josh McGrath said:
Well. I had the m9 so that left a very bad battery experience. I may have a bad. M10 cause the camera only focuses about a quarter of the time and also flashes the whatever thing is blocked when my finger is no where near it
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That can be easily fixed by a software update. From my experience, lg ui isn't very good and sometimes lags over time like touchwiz. Htc sense is the closest to stock Android fluidity
btort1 said:
That can be easily fixed by a software update. From my experience, lg ui isn't very good and sometimes lags over time like touchwiz. Htc sense is the closest to stock Android fluidity
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I'll check that but I think all updates are installed.
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Josh McGrath said:
I'll check that but I think all updates are installed.
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Definitely check if you're updated. This was a known issue with the earlier builds but seems to have subsided for most people.
One thing to keep in mind is that it'll be easier to use custom ROMs at least in the near future since the G5 only just achieved root.
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Definitely check if you're updated. This was a known issue with the earlier builds but seems to have subsided for most people.
One thing to keep in mind is that it'll be easier to use custom ROMs at least in the near future since the G5 only just achieved root.
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Is it a system update or camera update from the play store?
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Receiving my HTC 10 today

I am so geeked!!!!!!!!! I miss my HTC EVO 4G from back in the day. I HAD to get an HTC phone as soon as I could. It arrives today.
So could someone explain to me please......
1.) Should I root and what are the advantages over just Themes and ROMS
2. ) Does HTC still openly support unlocking and rooting your phone?
3.) Other then setting it up, are there any stabilty or performance tricks I should know?
Thank you guys. I can't wait
Sorry, no answers to your question, only warm congratulations with your new toy.
If you are really a fan of changing system icons and using other ROMs, I don't suggest to root.
HTC supports unlock on HTC dev, but not root.
scothern99 said:
I am so geeked!!!!!!!!! I miss my HTC EVO 4G from back in the day. I HAD to get an HTC phone as soon as I could. It arrives today.
So could someone explain to me please......
1.) Should I root and what are the advantages over just Themes and ROMS
2. ) Does HTC still openly support unlocking and rooting your phone?
3.) Other then setting it up, are there any stabilty or performance tricks I should know?
Thank you guys. I can't wait
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1. Most of your custom ROM come rooted already.
2. Yes they support unlocking, rooting not so much.
3. Read through the threads, there are a few.
Alpert3 said:
If you are really a fan of changing system icons and using other ROMs, I don't suggest to root.
HTC supports unlock on HTC dev, but not root.
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So root isn't really necessary anymore ?
scothern99 said:
So root isn't really necessary anymore ?
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I don't like to root it anymore. Since Sense 8 provides a "Free Style" which is very cool. But if you found still need to, then you can, of course.
Alpert3 said:
I don't like to root it anymore. Since Sense 8 provides a "Free Style" which is very cool. But if you found still need to, then you can, of course.
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I have no special needs to root. I just like to tinker and play with ROMS. If I don't have to Root, I typically wont.
scothern99 said:
I have no special needs to root. I just like to tinker and play with ROMS. If I don't have to Root, I typically wont.
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not even adblocker? for youtube and for general ad blocking?
I've never had a custom Rom that didn't come pre rooted.
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I've never had a custom Rom that didn't come pre rooted.
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Yeah me either. I just meant that if root isn't required, I wouldn't go out of my way.

Verizon HTC 10 Root?

I was just wondering if there was a working root for the Verizon version yet?
XperianceIT said:
I was just wondering if there was a working root for the Verizon version yet?
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been out since the phone was released..
no root, but one better.. S-OFF.. perm root
You need to mail it out to jcase or beaups however.
$25 for the service + you pay to and from.
well worth it.
they are great and it's very easy to use:
http://theroot.ninja/verizon10.html
I have always been more of the do it myself kinda person, that's 90% of the fun
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XperianceIT said:
I have always been more of the do it myself kinda person, that's 90% of the fun
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We all would prefer to do it ourselves.
The VZW M9 took a year for App support.
So keep that in mind.
Luckily they are even offering this service or we'd be SOL.
If you create an exploit, please do share.
Now if only there was support for my Moto Z I would be golden!
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So if I get this verizon htc 10 and send it out too to them it says on their site they will s-off/unlock/root and flash twrp. Does the "unlock" mean they will unlock the boot loader? If so can I flash other roms besides the ones in just the verizon htc10 forum. There is only one stock deodexed/tweaked Rom so far, well as of last night when I looked and a custom stock kernel. I'm talking about roms like viper, or , vipre not sure of the correct spelling. Will they work on the verizon device?
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