Is QuickCharge 2.0 working with magnetic cable? - Xperia Z3 Compact Accessories

Hello friends,
I've bought an Aukey QuickCharge 2.0 (Qualcomm) Car Power Adapter and want to use it with a magnetic cable (original Sony).
Someone know, is this a good combination / is this working?
Regards, Chris
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I have an Aukey QuickCharge 2.0 wall plug. When using a USB cable it appears to charge quicker than when using a magnetic cable (after market). The USB cable is higher gauge than the magnetic cable so that could be why. However, I do not think QuickCharge works on the magnetic connector. That being said the Aukey QuickCharge 2.0 does have a higher current and can charge non QuickCharge devices faster than the regular adapter. So I think you will notice it charge faster using the Aukey QuickCharge adapter and the magnetic cable versus a regular adapter, but not as fast as using a USB cable with the Aukey QuickCharge adapter.

dhchris said:
Hello friends,
I've bought an Aukey QuickCharge 2.0 (Qualcomm) Car Power Adapter and want to use it with a magnetic cable (original Sony).
Someone know, is this a good combination / is this working?
Regards, Chris
Sent from my Xperia Z3 Compact using Tapatalk Pro app.
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yes, works very well for me. I use the same and it goes from under 10% to over 50% in 40 minutes. I slows down a bit after that, and the closer to 100% it gets the slower the charge.
You should be able to get from 0% to 100% in a little over two hours. The reason I bought a Q 2.0 charger is that it negotiates with the phone to get the best rate of charge, so even though it's super fast charging, the phone doesn't even get warm. It worries me when I plug my phone in somewhere I I feel it getting hot, it can't be good for the battery.

I recently bought a Quick Charge 2.0 adapter and can tell you that it made no difference to my charging times. Whether it's the standard charger that came with the Z3C, the Quick Charge 2.0 adapter, usb charging, or magnetic charger, my phone charges at about 1% per minute with any of those combinations.
Supposedly QC2.0 can charge up to 60% in 30 mins, or 2% per minute, i.e. twice as fast as a regular charger, but I didn't get close to that. I had a friend test my QC2.0 adapter on his LG G4 and it charged from 0 to 75% in 30 mins, so I'm guessing QC2.0 isn't active or doesn't work on the Z3C, at least on mine anyway.

Didgesteve said:
yes, works very well for me. I use the same and it goes from under 10% to over 50% in 40 minutes. I slows down a bit after that, and the closer to 100% it gets the slower the charge.
You should be able to get from 0% to 100% in a little over two hours. The reason I bought a Q 2.0 charger is that it negotiates with the phone to get the best rate of charge, so even though it's super fast charging, the phone doesn't even get warm. It worries me when I plug my phone in somewhere I I feel it getting hot, it can't be good for the battery.
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+1 , my phone like that too, I use 2A sams*** adapter

Didgesteve said:
yes, works very well for me. I use the same and it goes from under 10% to over 50% in 40 minutes. I slows down a bit after that, and the closer to 100% it gets the slower the charge.
You should be able to get from 0% to 100% in a little over two hours. The reason I bought a Q 2.0 charger is that it negotiates with the phone to get the best rate of charge, so even though it's super fast charging, the phone doesn't even get warm. It worries me when I plug my phone in somewhere I I feel it getting hot, it can't be good for the battery.
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Thanks, you have solved my question aahahha

With the magnetic does not exactly work.

I thought that for Quickcharge the data lines of the USB cable have to be used, because the CPU needs to communicate with the power supply for switching to QC 2.0. Right or wrong?!
And the magnetic cable doesn't provide any data lines

i just replace my z3 compact battery it turns on but won't charge... how i can made the unit charge again please help... the battery is ok...

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Dual port 2amp Charger - What should I buy

I am aware that many of these dual USB port chargers dont actually charge any faster than 1amp.
Does anyone know of a robust dual charger that can swiftly charge my Z1, without having to turn everything on the phone off?
Also, will charging via the magnetic charging port and the mini usb at the same time, cause any issues or charge the phone faster?
If i am being stupid, please forgive me.
Take a look at the Anker chargers.
As far as I am aware you cannot charge your phone by simultaneously using the magnetic port and the usb port. Most likely the first one to be plugged in will take priority. Q
MobileBritain said:
Take a look at the Anker chargers.
As far as I am aware you cannot charge your phone by simultaneously using the magnetic port and the usb port. Most likely the first one to be plugged in will take priority. Q
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Thanks, I bought an Anker 150000 amp. It's dual. I was looking for an adaptor for a wall socket. Just worded my request wrongly it seems.
I have a Sony mag-cable, and a sony wall charger.. all are stock sony supplies bought directly from the local Sony retail store.
When I plug my mag-cable to the side, it charges it - as expected.
When I then plug the USB cable in, which is connected to the wall charger on the end, the mag cable STOPS working.
Using a voltmeter connected to the prongs on the side of the phone, the voltages dropped to near 0 as soon as the usb was plugged in.
I'm using a NUT's 4.4.4 with a locked BL and stock kernel/everything else.
ptoner said:
I am aware that many of these dual USB port chargers dont actually charge any faster than 1amp.
Does anyone know of a robust dual charger that can swiftly charge my Z1, without having to turn everything on the phone off?
Also, will charging via the magnetic charging port and the mini usb at the same time, cause any issues or charge the phone faster?
If i am being stupid, please forgive me.
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I don't think you can charge them at the same time. I don't know much about them, but you might also look into 4 or 6 port chargers too.
I use the magnetic charger, it charge quite fast as. But I think the voltage limit for magnetic is 1 ma.
But for usb, I charge with Sony fast charge USB power bank, it's charging rate at 2.1 ma.
It's very speedy to charge. So I suppose that having a charger with 2.1 ma charger will fill up your battery better than 1 ma.
Anker chargers are really awesome, been using them for months...
What can you say about Lumsing power banks?

Z5 fast charging

Hi.
I've came from a note 4 with fast charging to a z5p with supposed fast charging. The difference in battery capacity isn't too much. However, the z5 charges so much slower. I've tried multiple quick charge certified wall plugs and a quick charge 2.0 powerbank, the official wire and other wires as well as my old note charger plus wire.
Is this a fault in the firmware or a fault with the phone?
I get the results with the note what I expect. However with the z5 it feels like going back in time with a 'normal charger'
Mines been okay, I even have an Aukey fast charger and it's at the same pace.
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simbob86uk said:
Hi.
I've came from a note 4 with fast charging to a z5p with supposed fast charging. The difference in battery capacity isn't too much. However, the z5 charges so much slower. I've tried multiple quick charge certified wall plugs and a quick charge 2.0 powerbank, the official wire and other wires as well as my old note charger plus wire.
Is this a fault in the firmware or a fault with the phone?
I get the results with the note what I expect. However with the z5 it feels like going back in time with a 'normal charger'
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I've noticed that quick charging isn't as fast too...I have three quick chargers and all three have worked great for phones like the S6, Nexus 6 and even the Zenfone 2.....I'm going to run my phone down to less than 5% and then watch to see how long it takes to get to 100%. It could be due to the Z5 Premium having a very big battery (3450mah I believe)....My Nexus 6 seems to be the fastest to charge...I have seen it literally go from 10% to 65% in 20 minutes.
I'll try my luck this week and report back for you guys.
As an aside though, I've typically avoided using QC2.0 unless I'm super desperate. That kind of heat and power going to the battery just screams "device killer" to me. I've used it on a Nexus 6, HTC One M9, and a Z3 - same heat issues across the board. I think I'll be relying on my faithful Aukey's standard USB ports. (Aukey PA-T1 54W 5 Port USB charger, fwiw)
Please let us know. So far the assumed quick charge 2.0 is a let down. Be back off to Samsung if not sorted
simbob86uk said:
Please let us know. So far the assumed quick charge 2.0 is a let down. Be back off to Samsung if not sorted
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Not OP but been using the Z5P for the past few days... QC 2.0 is pretty fast, but not as fast as I expected it to be. As far as heat is concerned, I've had no issues from it overheating while charging.
fancymans said:
Not OP but been using the Z5P for the past few days... QC 2.0 is pretty fast, but not as fast as I expected it to be. As far as heat is concerned, I've had no issues from it overheating while charging.
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Sony is notoriously conservative when it comes to battery charging. For example the Z3 only used QC2.0 to allow more flexibility in charger cabling - battery current was limited to only 1.5A. With a normal charger you could only hit this if the screen was off with an extremely short cable, with QC2.0 you could hit it even with a thin (more flexible) MicroUSB cable with a right-angle connector that would cripple charging on most phones.
Probe not noticing the results as well with always being on the phone
I bought this one from aukey for €15,- and in dollars like $20
I purchased the aukey quick charge 2.0 charger. It operates fine with my old note 4. So I see this as Sony issue
The device is most definitely using QC2.0 for power input - my Powergen wall charger turns green when the Z5P is plugged in.
Edit: If I'm reading the kernel source correctly, charge current is 2.3A with no step charging. https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/ke...com/msm8994-kitakami_satsuki_common.dtsi#L986 - No way will you hit that without QC2.0 except MAYBE if the screen is off and your USB cable is 3 inches long.
Z5 non-premium is 2.1A with no step charging, Z5C is 2.1A below 65% and 1.5A above 65%
my z5p came with a 2.0 UCH-10 charger from sony http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/06/12/sony-uch10-quick-charger-coming-soon/
Thanks for the input. Any idea about the drop after 65%?
simbob86uk said:
Thanks for the input. Any idea about the drop after 65%?
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That only applies to the Z5 Compact. Smaller battery makes it easier to stress it. In general, rapid-charging a battery is far more stressful above 60-65% charge than it is below this, which is why so many companies specified "time to 60%" specs - because nearly all of them drop the current past 65%. The Z5P seems to be an exception - it has a lower charge rate (compared to the battery size) below 65%, but maintains this charge rate up to the CC/CV transition point (usually 80-85%).
Rapid charging past the CC/CV transition point cannot be done safely.

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the OnePlus 3T can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Love DASH! I quit charging at night because while using WAZE on way into work, I'm at 100% in no time anyway....
insaneoctane said:
Love DASH! I quit charging at night because while using WAZE on way into work, I'm at 100% in no time anyway....
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Same here. This is the 1st phone that I do not charge over night.
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DASH charger is indeed brilliant
Love the dash charging too. Such a big improvement for me. Plug it in, do some things, return and have a phone with at least 70 percent. Hell yeah. Good if you need to leave but dont have much time for charging. Even 10 minutes give you an enormous boost. Never want to miss that ^^
btw where can i rate this thread from the xda app??
i know its a silly Q but if i use a regular USB C cable , will the charge speeds be v slow or just a small % down
This dash charge is a real thing! 2-3 minutes gives you about 8-10%
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DASH is the best charging experience of all times
The cable and brick are dope too indeed
EDIT
Exactly 1 hour 20 minutes from 0 to 100%, proved with a stopwatch
karthics4 said:
i know its a silly Q but if i use a regular USB C cable , will the charge speeds be v slow or just a small % down
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Because of the fact that the adapter is the one that gives you much or less ampere i would say it does not depend on the cable. I.e. when i plug in the usb c cable from 1+ into my tablet adapter that has 2.5 Ampere Output im not on dash charging. It charges normal. The 1+ Adapter does have an output of 4 Ampere, so it gives you the Dash Charging.
So i would say the cable from 1+ IS a normal Usb c cable. (anyone proves me wrong??)
Greetings
Love the dash charge
Dash charge is great. Charge up my phone super fast. Love it.
DASH is definitely great in comparison to QC 2.0 and 3.0. I'm just concerned about battery durability since the battery is not easily removable.
On the ampere app the max input current I noticed was at 3510mA, which is pretty insane.
All in all, awesome technology.
LaCereb said:
Because of the fact that the adapter is the one that gives you much or less ampere i would say it does not depend on the cable. I.e. when i plug in the usb c cable from 1+ into my tablet adapter that has 2.5 Ampere Output im not on dash charging. It charges normal. The 1+ Adapter does have an output of 4 Ampere, so it gives you the Dash Charging.
So i would say the cable from 1+ IS a normal Usb c cable. (anyone proves me wrong??)
Greetings
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Thanks for that, yep, i never had a phone with fast charge. also just wanna ask , is fast charge or wirless charge better as i used to have N4 which i liked as it had built in wirelesss charge
karthics4 said:
Thanks for that, yep, i never had a phone with fast charge. also just wanna ask , is fast charge or wirless charge better as i used to have N4 which i liked as it had built in wirelesss charge
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Never touched a wireless charging thing. from my knowledge i would say it depends on the wireless protocol how fast it charges.
i can't give you any hints if wireless charging is better/faster then dash charging
there are also differences in dash/fast charging. look to other publisher like Huawei or zte. they have different charging times and what you get out of it in you battery.
Now i consider buying this one hahaha
Dash charging is genius. Letting my phone charge after work right now. Picked it up and it was stone cold. Love that. Left it on for onky 20 minutes and i got my 40% juice back easily. Its just great. I love this phone wholeheartedly.
The speed my phone charges at is insane. 30 min and I have at least 60% more battery.
Dash charging works great and overall charging speed is fine.
LaCereb said:
Never touched a wireless charging thing. from my knowledge i would say it depends on the wireless protocol how fast it charges.
i can't give you any hints if wireless charging is better/faster then dash charging
there are also differences in dash/fast charging. look to other publisher like Huawei or zte. they have different charging times and what you get out of it in you battery.
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Wireless charging is more of a gimmick than anything else, it's much less effective and charging currency is about 200-400 milli amps per coil, so at best your can reach about 1 amp with a triple coil charger. ?
Actually, a single coil charger won't even trigger charging on this phone, tried it and it gives up on charging in like 0.2 seconds. ?
pitrus- said:
Wireless charging is more of a gimmick than anything else, it's much less effective and charging currency is about 200-400 milli amps per coil, so at best your can reach about 1 amp with a triple coil charger. ?
Actually, a single coil charger won't even trigger charging on this phone, tried it and it gives up on charging in like 0.2 seconds. ?
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wooow 1A is a pretty sad thing
Even the samsung s2 battery would beat that XDD

slow charging issue

well i am using an anker charger and a good usb c cable that worked with almost all phones and fast charging before
i didnt use the original charger yet or cable .. i usually tend to keep them so if i needed to sell the phone later it will be easier .. also no place for extra chargers
the phone charged 10% in 20-30 minutes ?! pocophone used to charge like 50% in 30 minutes using same charger and cable
so what do you think !! i will try to use the orginal cable and charger to make sure phone is not faulty and will update you
Anker is not compatible with any version of Huawei fast charging protocols while Pocophone is.
Use Huawei's original supercharger.
i used the original charger and original cable and it was super charging
i use the original charger and 3rd party cable and it was regular charging
i used older huawei quick charger and any cable and it was quick charging
i used anker charger and any cable and it was regular charging
so apparently the charging process in huawei is very dependant on both charger and cable .. wished it was much easier than this
i usually use the anker charger for all devices
i also get a feeling that fast charging lesser the battery life over time .. so what is your opinion about that ?!
You need a cable, which support 5V. You can find some on Aliexpress but Anker don't have cable, which support 5V
What I saw is that the first few minutes are slow or regular below 20%. After, the charge is reslly fast. Closing to 100% slow down to.
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Car charging issues (standard S20 5g)

So i've had this phone for a few days and took a road trip and camped this weekend. To say the least, I had a good feel of battery usage of this phone for my typical tasks.
During my road trip, my phone started with about 92% when i threw it on the charger and started driving. I noticed it was charging up to 96% and it started to discharge slowly after about an 45 minutes of driving The phone indicated it was being charged. When I purchased this phone I also purchased a 6a car charger (dual port, 3a each), and also some USB-C to USB-A cables rated at 18w. If I disconnected the power for a little bit, and reconnected, it would charge maybe 3-8% before stopping again and I would repeat the cycle to ensure I had enough battery to allow navigation to take me to my destination. Luckily, I made it to my campsite with 82% battery to spare.
Now the strange thing- when I left this morning to come back home, I had 100% on my phone as I charged it with a battery bank fine. I left the phone plugged in to my car charger as I left, and it stayed at 100%. I even let the phone discharge to 94%, and plugged it in and it was able to charge to 100% with the navigation on as well as pandora.
Am I doing something wrong? Am I supposed to be using a USB-C type charger? Maybe I need a better rated cable?
Would love some help. I'm coming from an S7 edge so a lot has changed. thanks!
liberalswine said:
When I purchased this phone I also purchased a 6a car charger (dual port, 3a each),
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I'm going to guess the charger just isn't that good, which one was it?
peachpuff said:
I'm going to guess the charger just isn't that good, which one was it?
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It's a qualcomm based charger. https://www.amazon.com/AILUN-Charger-Qualcomm-Adapter-Compatible/dp/B01N8PPY1H
Sometimes while driving these things can work loose in the lighter socket, a slight touch fumbling around near it (my dash cam does this), or some bumps in the road.
I suspect on your outbound trip the charger might have been getting intermittent power from being not quite pushed "home", but on the return trip you could have pushed it in harder and it stayed put.
yrp888 said:
Sometimes while driving these things can work loose in the lighter socket, a slight touch fumbling around near it (my dash cam does this), or some bumps in the road.
I suspect on your outbound trip the charger might have been getting intermittent power from being not quite pushed "home", but on the return trip you could have pushed it in harder and it stayed put.
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this wasn't the issue as I tried unplugging it and tried various 12v sockets in my car. However I think I did figure out my issue. The new charger i'm using does not use the "PD" protocol that the newest samsung phones use. Also, although the car charger i have is a qualcomm 3.0 protocol, and 36w- it's actually at 18w per usb A socket. The s20 wall charger is rated at 25w- so I'm now looking for a usb car charger that has a dedicated usb c socket with at least 25w of power and supports PD and pps
I'm using this one, no issues https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07VP3HLGW/
jonboi said:
I'm using this one, no issues https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07VP3HLGW/
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is "super fast charging" enabled with that charger? I just ordered: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077ZRBPNB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I read somewhere that the newer samsung devices require PPM protocol in order for super fast charging rates to be active (as well as PD)
liberalswine said:
this wasn't the issue as I tried unplugging it and tried various 12v sockets in my car. However I think I did figure out my issue. The new charger i'm using does not use the "PD" protocol that the newest samsung phones use. Also, although the car charger i have is a qualcomm 3.0 protocol, and 36w- it's actually at 18w per usb A socket. The s20 wall charger is rated at 25w- so I'm now looking for a usb car charger that has a dedicated usb c socket with at least 25w of power and supports PD and pps
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I've reconsidered using fast chargers after the purchase of the S20, we've started using old 7.5W and 10W AC power adaptors. The 7.5W charger brings the phone up from about 30% to 80% in about 75min and I am fine with that. I have also used the 5W S3 charger but I think I'm happy with using the 7.5W charger.
If I need a fast boost I can always pull out the 25W charger.
I did buy a Belkin 18W PD car charger with the phone thinking "yeah, I need this" but now I will only use it for emergency charging. Tomorrow I'll pull out an old 10W car charger and plug the phone into the 10W socket while I drive around, see what happens.
Well I got into the car at 10:55 with the battery around 26%, plugged it into an old car charger I bought for our S4s (Pleomax, apparently OEM for Samsung) which has 2A & 1A outlets. It's not obvious on the charger which outlet is which but turns out I used the 1A outlet (AccuBattery showed the charging current hovering around 1000 mA).
Anyway, after 1hr of driving to my destination with a 5min break to fill up, the battery reached 66% so the 1A car charger raised the battery by 40% in about 60min, which I think is quite acceptable.
Car connected by BT for phone/SMS, received 1 call only. GPS/NFC etc are usually kept off.

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