To root or not to root? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone, I love modding but I'm worried to lose warranty. Can you tell me which are the real advantages to have warranty? Thank you so much for your time.

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The main reason I use to rot is to use program like Link2SD. The internal memory is never enough for everything.
I think the only advantage is about the warranty, and depending on the root can have malicious code behind.

sergioreis said:
The main reason I use to rot is to use program like Link2SD. The internal memory is never enough for everything.
I think the only advantage is about the warranty, and depending on the root can have malicious code behind.
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You can move apps to the external sd card by going to the Settings > Apps > Select an app > Storage and then hit Change. I don't think you need to use such kind of tools

joelalmeidaptg said:
You can move apps to the external sd card by going to the Settings > Apps > Select an app > Storage and then hit Change. I don't think you need to use such kind of tools
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But can't do it with every app.

arvarobert said:
But can't do it with every app.
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Yes, the biggest use to not accept change to SD

In MM you can use an external sdcard as internal storage! Android will move apps then auto magically to the sdcard. No need for root no need for tools like link2sd anymore. Correct me if i miss a point here.
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CiroP33 said:
Hi everyone, I love modding but I'm worried to lose warranty. Can you tell me which are the real advantages to have warranty? Thank you so much for your time.
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you can root with locked bootloade and install xposed.. i have locked bootloader.. for warranty.. search google and youll find how to.

why opena again 123456577. root or not topic???Use the search options pls.
Moderator close this pls.Thanks!

raptorddd said:
you can root with locked bootloade and install xposed.. i have locked bootloader.. for warranty.. search google and youll find how to.
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you do know root still voids warranty don't you?
LG have a root checking tool RCT that logs if you have rooted your device.

OllieD said:
you do know root still voids warranty don't you?
LG have a root checking tool RCT that logs if you have rooted your device.
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not if you flash stock firmware.. or in the case of bootloop disable main core and root will be deleted when you flash stock KDZ. but unlocking bootloader you must ask LG for unlock.bin key , so i guess they have record that you requested the unlock key.. some have requested key , and say they didnt use it , got bootloop sent for repair and warranty was void and phone wasnt unlocked..

You can always pay for service if you cannot get out of boot loop yourself.
I think it is a risk worth taking considering benefits of rooting.
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raptorddd said:
some have requested key , and say they didnt use it , got bootloop sent for repair and warranty was void and phone wasnt unlocked..
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Who says that? Can you provide links?
Even LG says your warranty is void if you *unlock*, not if you just download the unlock.bin..

If anything happens and your phone has KDZ outs you can just use LGUP to go back to complete stock. I had a boot loader unlocked flag on boot and i used that to get rid of it when I had a bootloop and had to send my phone in for warranty repair.

You're saying a bootloader unlock is reversible/concealable?

EPa said:
Who says that? Can you provide links?
Even LG says your warranty is void if you *unlock*, not if you just download the unlock.bin..
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its on the bootloop g4 thread... i can provide a link to a way to relock bootloader ... i have not try it..
well apparently thats what one guy said, since they might have record that you downloaded and requested unlock . bin cause i think they ask for something not sure if serial number or imei... so the guys said he assumes they have it on record and belive you unlock it...
link for relocking..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/help/relock-bootloader-h811-t3372970

I asked proof about what you wrote concerning:
LG denying service on the basis of their "who downloaded unlock.bin" database, *even though the device was NOT unlocked*.
Is there any? I would really like to know.. That guy you're referring to, can you find the post please?
Edit: ok, I just noticed the words "thinks" "assumes" and the like. I have read the posts, so don't bother looking. These are not personal experience posts, just assumptions.

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Root XPS (63 & 67 FW) [Update: 20.03.12]

For unlocked bootloaders only!
Please use the recovery now to root any firmware!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1596285
Just flash the SuperSU cwm zip with recovery and your phone will be rooted. To download SuperSU visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Regards
Bin4ry said:
For unlocked bootloaders only!
Download:
http://eddy.uni-duisburg.de/bin4ry/system_xps_prerooted_63fw.img
Connect device in fastboot mode (blue LED).
Open Command prompt and type:
fastboot flash system system_xps_prerooted_63fw.img
This will give you root immediatly after reboot!
A nicer way will come soon. But this should solve first problems
Regards
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ERRRR u beat me to it
Cholek3 said:
Guys, you're asolutely f***ing amazing. Congrats.
Do you mean Command prompt in ADB or windows?
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In Windows command prompt. But ou need fastboot installed.
This is only fist shot. If you dont know really what im talking about, then please wait for another image with good instructions
Jozinek said:
I can confirm, that it work, many thanks.
Edit - it work, but i cant downloads anything from Market, so back to stock version without root. Will wait on new kernel
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If you get market problems go ot Settings -> Apps -> ... -> Search for the market in the list and then delete Data of the App. After that all will work fine.
Regards
Bin4ry said:
In Windows command prompt. But ou need fastboot installed.
This is only fist shot. If you dont know really what im talking about, then please wait for another image with good instructions
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I know roughly what you are talking about. I know command prompt, although I never used fastboot, as I only owned X10 (until I dropped it and USB port snapped ), so never had to/wanted to unlock bootloader this way. But I want to learn, that's why I am reading all this now, and I need to ask about something I am not sure of.
Just go through the unlock bootloader process and then you will know what fastboot is
After that just type my comamnd with my file in the same directory and you will be done.
Regards
If I were you I would wait till I get ICS on the phone then unlock the bootloader and root the phone.
Quick question. It just wonders me. Sony "supports" unlocking bootloader, which is more dangerous than root. Why rooting is not supported then? Is it because we could unistall third party aplications and Sony has some sort of agreements with them and are obligated by law?
Cholek3 said:
Quick question. It just wonders me. Sony "supports" unlocking bootloader, which is more dangerous than root. Why rooting is not supported then? Is it because we could unistall third party aplications and Sony has some sort of agreements with them and are obligated by law?
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No you are getting the idea wrong
Long ago we discussed alot with SonyEricsson and together decided this is the best way of doing it.
The reason is simple:
Rooting alone does not give you access to all partitions etc. pp See X10 Forums for that. Sony is very good in hiding partitions
With a bootloader unlock we get fully workable fastboot. We are able to write all partitions and change what we want. (Root too)
Also Sony(Ericsson) is able to track who unlocks and who not AND is able to provide a check mechanism to forbid unlocking of phones which are not owned by the user (for example provider branded phones in contract, the phone is usually property of the provider).
So this is the reason. Unlocked bootloader gives us nearly full access, so no need to worry I am in this game since X10 times (like you or not ?)and we always got the phones working like we wanted.
Our work for CM9 on XPS has started now too.
Regards
Bin4ry said:
No you are getting the idea wrong
Long ago we discussed alot with SonyEricsson and together decided this is the best way of doing it.
The reason is simple:
Rooting alone does not give you access to all partitions etc. pp See X10 Forums for that. Sony is very good in hiding partitions
With a bootloader unlock we get fully workable fastboot. We are able to write all partitions and change what we want. (Root too)
Also Sony(Ericsson) is able to track who unlocks and who not AND is able to provide a check mechanism to forbid unlocking of phones which are not owned by the user (for example provider branded phones in contract, the phone is usually property of the provider).
So this is the reason. Unlocked bootloader gives us nearly full access, so no need to worry I am in this game since X10 times (like you or not ?)and we always got the phones working like we wanted.
Our work for CM9 on XPS has started now too.
Regards
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See, I was not aware of that "agreement". Now everything seems to make sense. I am android user since I bought X10 back in August 2010. I was more or less following XDA since then as well, but this forum is worldwide community and is almost imposible to keep a track on everything. I would consider myself somewhere between rookie and advanced users. I know how to do certain things (root, how to use ADB, I was changing framwork_res.apk for my own purposes, etc.). My point also is, I am more hardware sort of guy, rather than software. That's why I am glad you guys are here with us.
Will this wipe the phone data or only the system partition ?
Cholek3 said:
My point also is, I am more hardware sort of guy, rather than software. That's why I am glad you guys are here with us.
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Hehe no problem. I'm hardware and software guy
gbil said:
Will this wipe the phone data or only the system partition ?
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Well no. But the first step is that you need to unlock bootloader and THIS WILL wipe your data. To flash the systempartition itself will not wipe userdata.
Cholek3 said:
Yes, I agree. But myself, I will wait for root for phones with locked bootloader as well. I assume I will be happy with phone speed, but when CM9 comes out, then I will consider unlockin bootloader.
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Your choice, i hope too that we will get a nice exploit again soon. But i personally have to time to work on an exploit.
Regards
3Shirts said:
Screw that! There are too many useful reasons for root. My motto:
Got android? Get root!
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True that, after I heard that you can lock back the bootloader and update it via SEUS or PCC, I'm so gonna root it and true again.
thanks sir at all
every thing is ok bootloader is unlocked now and root is ok
just i face a problem when i restored 340 (programs+games) through titanium backup pro ...... and when opening just only setting application my phone force close setting menu .......i dont know why although i still have 330 mb free in app
thanks in advanced
hasan_abeer said:
thanks sir at all
every thing is ok bootloader is unlocked now and root is ok
just i face a problem when i restored 340 (programs+games) through titanium backup pro ...... and when opening just only setting application my phone force close setting menu .......i dont know why although i still have 330 mb free in app
thanks in advanced
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So you restored with Titanium. Since Titanium is a Root app and you don't had Root before i think you are trying to restore a backup from another phone.
If you do that you have to assure that you ONLY RESTORE APPS and NOT SETTINGS! Settings from another phone will be most likely incompatible.
So this wil be your problem!
Regards
Bin4ry said:
So you restored with Titanium. Since Titanium is a Root app and you don't had Root before i think you are trying to restore a backup from another phone.
If you do that you have to assure that you ONLY RESTORE APPS and NOT SETTINGS! Settings from another phone will be most likely incompatible.
So this wil be your problem!
Regards
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thanks sir i do so restore app+data from samsung galaxy note ........what is the best way to restore :
could i reset my phone through setting+pivacy+factory data reset without affecting root or i must reflash this rom in order to save root
thanks again for your hard job
rgrds
hasan_abeer said:
thanks sir i do so restore app+data from samsung galaxy note ........what is the best way to restore :
could i reset my phone through setting+pivacy+factory data reset without affecting root or i must reflash this rom in order to save root
thanks again for your hard job
rgrds
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Restore only Apps in Titanium not Data! If you factory reset the phone root is still there
Regards
does the super one click work after bootloader unlocked?
unic0de said:
does the super one click work after bootloader unlocked?
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I don't think it will, otherwise somebody would already confirmed that I think. At the moment the only way is to flash appropriate firmware (only with unlocked bootloader).
Thread cleaned guys.
Constructive posts only, if you want to say thanks then hit the thanks button.
to whom it concern for call recorder over this rom works like a charm both sides very clear and great loud
just use callrecorder by SKVALEX(green color) from market with choosing recording calls from kernel with 2 way recording patch(root required) option
+wav format
enjoy my friends
great thanks to mr Bin4ry for rooting rom
rgrds

[Q] Need help rooting!

Hey everyone,
Just to let everyone know I am a noob, however I did watch a lot of tutorials on how to root the Xperia ZL. I am referring to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31545627 However, considering I am a noob, i can't post in that thread. I am experiencing some problems when the Bat file won't push the Super User app and Busy Box to the phone. Are there other approved methods of rooting this phone. By the way I have a locked bootloader, and I do not plan on unlocking it. Very afraid of screwing something help.
Thanks.
Just to add, I am using v30 of Binary, and everything works fine until I get passed the "restore option." After I complete this and am told to go into "Service Tests- then Display" this is where nothing is happening, and I am waiting forever!
You can use the new flashtool (Flashtool version 0.9.10.2beta6) to root your new XZL. It's the easiest way to root XZL.
rfg13 said:
You can use the new flashtool (Flashtool version 0.9.10.2beta6) to root your new XZL. It's the easiest way to root XZL.
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Thanks man for the info. I won't have to have the bootlocker unlocked in order to use this method correct?
darkghost220 said:
Thanks man for the info. I won't have to have the bootlocker unlocked in order to use this method correct?
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Yes, you still can root without unlocking ur bootloader.
Using flashtool u even can relock ur bootloader after u had unlocked it.
One tip after u rooted ur phone, please do a full backup including ur TA (this will ensure u still have ur drm key for bravia engine) incase you want to try to flash other rom especially AOSP base rom and getting back to factory default rom.
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butatx said:
Yes, you still can root without unlocking ur bootloader.
Using flashtool u even can relock ur bootloader after u had unlocked it.
One tip after u rooted ur phone, please do a full backup including ur TA (this will ensure u still have ur drm key for bravia engine) incase you want to try to flash other rom especially AOSP base rom and getting back to factory default rom.
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One question if i unlock bootloader and again lock it. Is my warranty lost or?
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kumar abhishek said:
One question if i unlock bootloader and again lock it. Is my warranty lost or?
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Basically, yes ur warranty is void if u unlock the bootloader because u need serial key to unlock the bootloader which u can get it by requesting from Sony website (u have to give ur phone imei number to get the serial key, Sony may blacklist ur imei number).
But if u can make it totally stock after u relock the bootloader (including ur drm key, this key is unique u can't flash others TA in ur phone, it will brick ur phone), and consider u r lucky (the Sony technician may not check the blacklisted list), u may claim the warranty.
This is only my logical thinking, u may need to validate my statement with others. I do not know whether Sony blacklist the phone imei if u request the unlock key. FYI, HTC blacklist the phone imei once u request the unlock key.
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i bought phone off ebay it came with unlocked bootloader. how can i get back drm key?
shah_vm said:
i bought phone off ebay it came with unlocked bootloader. how can i get back drm key?
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As far as I know you can't get back the drm key if you're not backup ur TA first before unlocking the bootloader. U may try to ask the owner of the phone, he/she may have the TA backup but even if he/she have it, I don't know whether you know that TA is belong to ur phone or not. I do not know how to check that, it may have imei number in the file to validate.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Delete lol :laugh:
An you are talking to a complete noob, so I do apologize, but TA? I understand I need to do a full back up of everything, I have done that before on other phones I have rooted. Just use Titanium backup for this, or is there a better app to conduct full backups. I haven't rooted phones in awhile. I had a couple Galaxy's notes and stuff that I rooted but I never did back-ups because I was just using them temporarily. So i've been out of the loop
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Delete lol :laugh:
An you are talking to a complete noob, so I do apologize, but TA? I understand I need to do a full back up of everything, I have done that before on other phones I have rooted. Just use Titanium backup for this, or is there a better app to conduct full backups. I haven't rooted phones in awhile. I had a couple Galaxy's notes and stuff that I rooted but I never did back-ups because I was just using them temporarily. So i've been out of the loop
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Please refer this link to backup your TA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234627
For full backup, i think you need CWM or TWRP recovery with stock kernel, please refer here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2095
If you are very new to this, I advise you to read and understand completely before you start anything. If you want to install hacked games or tweak a system a bit better you just root without unlocking bootloader, if you want to taste AOSP based rom or addicted with ROM flashing unlocking bootloader will ease your job.
Good luck with your reading and happy rooting
The best method to rooting your Xperia ZL is this method I did to unlock my ZL phones, the easiest without unlocking the bootloader believe me.
Please click this thread :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2186368
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[Q]Considering to Unlock the bootloader of my Xperia S!! Just need to ask something

But I'd really like to ask some questions...
Am I losing the warrenty forever, without anyway to get it again? (or i already lose it, since my phone was bought it in April 2012?)
Watching some guide, even not by official way, i have to submit my IMEI code, meaning that I must let sony know that my phone is unlocked?
So even if i reinstall everything, sony will still have a record that i have once unlocked the bootloader??
Is bravia2 working on jellybean with unlock bootloader? (I thought it wont works, some people said it works now in jellybean)
Thank You!!
KWOKSFUNG said:
But I'd really like to ask some questions...
1. Am I losing the warrenty forever, without anyway to get it again? (or i already lose it, since my phone was bought it in April 2012?)
2. Watching some guide, even not by official way, i have to submit my IMEI code, meaning that I must let sony know that my phone is unlocked?
3. So even if i reinstall everything, sony will still have a record that i have once unlocked the bootloader??
4. Is bravia2 working on jellybean with unlock bootloader? (I thought it wont works, some people said it works now in jellybean)
Thank You!!
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I editer your post with numbers so the answers are clearer:
1. As far as i know, you still can relock bootloader before taking to any center. In theory, they can only deny warranty if the problem was caused by any hardware or software modifications (for example CPU burn for overclock).
2. In theory, yes. They will know. I am not sure if the service center check that info in their data base.
3. In their DB, yes. But the people at the service center might or might check that.
4. I think that only video...
Felimenta97 said:
I editer your post with numbers so the answers are clearer:
1. As far as i know, you still can relock bootloader before taking to any center. In theory, they can only deny warranty if the problem was caused by any hardware or software modifications (for example CPU burn for overclock).
2. In theory, yes. They will know. I am not sure if the service center check that info in their data base.
3. In their DB, yes. But the people at the service center might or might check that.
4. I think that only video...
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Thanks for the info bro!!
but what do u mean by " I think that only video..."?
KWOKSFUNG said:
Thanks for the info bro!!
but what do u mean by " I think that only video..."?
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Maybe BE works only on video, not sure.
BE works only on videos
But I relocked my bootloader and restored BE back and by the way it's bravia engine 1 not 2
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zaidx said:
BE works only on videos
But I relocked my bootloader and restored BE back and by the way it's bravia engine 1 not 2
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yeah i know but i'm going to flash bravia2 anyway so i wondor if it works...
can i relock my bootloader when i'm on custom rom or kernal?

please answer me !

guys what do i lose if i UNBLOCK my bootloader..a lot of people are saying that i am going to face many things and my display (screen)is going to have flickers .
and btw if i just want root(to L mod speed and Lucky patcher) can i do that without unlocking the device ?
I believe you have to unlock the bootloader first and then root the device.
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tornido067 said:
guys what do i lose if i UNBLOCK my bootloader..a lot of people are saying that i am going to face many things and my display (screen)is going to have flickers .
and btw if i just want root(to L mod speed and Lucky patcher) can i do that without unlocking the device ?
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yus.. rooting is possible without BL unlock.
zenfone 2 ze551ml
tornido067 said:
guys what do i lose if i UNBLOCK my bootloader..a lot of people are saying that i am going to face many things and my display (screen)is going to have flickers .
and btw if i just want root(to L mod speed and Lucky patcher) can i do that without unlocking the device ?
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Use one click root method from a thread in general
Answers to all your questions are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/asus-zenfone-2-flashing-recovery-mode-t3096596
All u need is root
Root explorer and editing of some files then reboot
Bam u get L speed
Look in official post https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...EPK0UxnWJ04xeaTfQ&sig2=nBo8uLnCBw8iNP3dJOdOZQ
android lover 2000 said:
Use one click root method from a thread in general
Answers to all your questions are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/asus-zenfone-2-flashing-recovery-mode-t3096596
All u need is root
Root explorer and editing of some files then reboot
Bam u get L speed
Look in official post https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...EPK0UxnWJ04xeaTfQ&sig2=nBo8uLnCBw8iNP3dJOdOZQ
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so do i lose anything if i unlock ?i mean like sony devices ...am i going to lose fast charge ?or anything else ?
tornido067 said:
so do i lose anything if i unlock ?i mean like sony devices ...am i going to lose fast charge ?or anything else ?
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No
But, unlock if u are gonna use custom firmware, kernels or recoveries or else no need to do it
It is just for advanced use
Their are two ways to do it
1. Easy way from asus u loose update beacuse u will be blacklisted by them(no more ota's )
2. Not so easy way u loose nothing though
2.2. Someone made a bat file to make unlock bl easy just by one click search in xda the same way one click root
I Hope i helped you
quicksilver53 said:
I believe you have to unlock the bootloader first and then root the device.
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Sorry, my mistake. I realized later that you did not need to unlock bootloader unless installing custom kernels and such.
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Does the 7x have a/b partitions?

I want to install magisk, but I still want to be able to take ota updates. I also want to keep the stock recovery if possible. Is there a good way to do this, or will I have to flash TWRP?
Edit: it looks like magisk v15 is bricking 7x's. Should I wait a bit before I try to install it?
I Could Be Dead Wrong But..
epickid37 said:
I want to install magisk, but I still want to be able to take ota updates. I also want to keep the stock recovery if possible. Is there a good way to do this, or will I have to flash TWRP?
Edit: it looks like magisk v15 is bricking 7x's. Should I wait a bit before I try to install it?
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I Do Believe You Need To Be Rooted To Install Magisk...
And to root you have to Unlock your Bootloader.
Your device will Reject Any and All O.T.A.'s with an Unsecure (A.K.A. Unlocked) Bootloader.
That's why you get that hidious *Warning!* message everytime you reboot.. your device knows it's unsecured.
You can sideload all the upcoming O.T.A.'s when someone makes them available.. I kinda doubt that is going to be on day one though.
The Nice thing about those of you that are rooting is, you can just pay the $18.00 bucks and bring your phone back to stock with that D.C. tool that is being discussed in the Q & A.. I assume it works on all variants ?
Anyway.. good luck to you if you do decide to go ahead and unlock that Bootloader.
RaiderWill said:
I Do Believe You Need To Be Rooted To Install Magisk...
And to root you have to Unlock your Bootloader.
Your device will Reject Any and All O.T.A.'s with an Unsecure (A.K.A. Unlocked) Bootloader.
That's why you get that hidious *Warning!* message everytime you reboot.. your device knows it's unsecured.
You can sideload all the upcoming O.T.A.'s when someone makes them available.. I kinda doubt that is going to be on day one though.
The Nice thing about those of you that are rooting is, you can just pay the $18.00 bucks and bring your phone back to stock with that D.C. tool that is being discussed in the Q & A.. I assume it works on all variants ?
Anyway.. good luck to you if you do decide to go ahead and unlock that Bootloader.
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Magisk is a rooting method, I know from experience that you don't already have to have a rooted phone. Also magisk v14 added a feature where you could patch the boot image and flash it via adb.
What's this "D.C. tool"? It sound interesting
Damn.. It's Been So Long..
epickid37 said:
Magisk is a rooting method, I know from experience that you don't already have to have a rooted phone. Also magisk v14 added a feature where you could patch the boot image and flash it via adb.
What's this "D.C. tool"? It sound interesting
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You Are 100% Correct...
You're conversing with an old "SuperSu" guy here.. I totally forgot mag's is a rooter like Su.
But you still have to Unlock that loader to make it happen.. You are not going to get any O.T.A.'s
I know Magisk can hide root for things like netflix... But not to recieve Vendor Updates.. unless things have changed drasticly.. please correct me if I'm wrong..
But again.. sideloading is always an option.
RaiderWill said:
You Are 100% Correct...
You're conversing with an old "SuperSu" guy here.. I totally forgot mag's is a rooter like Su.
But you still have to Unlock that loader to make it happen.. You are not going to get any O.T.A.'s
I know Magisk can hide root for things like netflix... But not to recieve Vendor Updates.. unless things have changed drasticly.. please correct me if I'm wrong..
But again.. sideloading is always an option.
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I'm probably wrong, but from what I've read, you can still take ota's with an unlocked bootloader?
A Virgin...
epickid37 said:
I'm probably wrong, but from what I've read, you can still take ota's with an unlocked bootloader?
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When It Comes To Huawei.. I'm A Virgin...
Every other phone I've seen, the O.T.A. will notify you that your system has been "Modified" and will not attempt the update.
When you root.. Your Phone Becomes Insecure.. and is vernable to Malware, Virus, Hacks and god knows what else.
O.T.A.'s are Signed Packages.. They Ain't Going To Da Hood To Do Business...
Keep it locked if you want everything on day 1.. Then you can Root to your hearts content.
epickid37 said:
I'm probably wrong, but from what I've read, you can still take ota's with an unlocked bootloader?
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Note u definitely can't take OTA updates with Magisk installed. What's worse is the normal recovery doesn't have a proper update option so u'll have to use Huawei's Dload method which fails if u have tampered the system. Restoring to the stock ROM with a locked bootloader is also incredibly hard on Huawei/Honor devices.
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ayush rao said:
Note u definitely can't take OTA updates with Magisk installed. What's worse is the normal recovery doesn't have a proper update option so u'll have to use Huawei's Dload method which fails if u have tampered the system. Restoring to the stock ROM with a locked bootloader is also incredibly hard on Huawei/Honor devices.
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Here's how to take ota updates with magisk. But what your saying is Huawei doesn't use recovery to update, they use proprietary methods that detect system modifications, right?
epickid37 said:
Here's how to take ota updates with magisk. But what your saying is Huawei doesn't use recovery to update, they use proprietary methods that detect system modifications, right?
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Thats not what I meant, Huawei does use the recovery to update like any other phone but their recovery doesn't let the user to sideload their own OTA files. U'll have to use their Dload method which is an absolute pain.
Further, the Magisk page u posted here mentions the system and vendor must not be modded so that means you can't use any app like Titanium Backup to block or uninstall apps since it tampers the system. Thats really annoying since the whole point of rooting is to modify the system. Also if u used TWRP then u will have a hard time trying to find the right recovery file corresponding to the firmware u r on. It is really hard for Honor devices since u'll have to download a large file and, using a tool on XDA, extract the images u need. IMO rooting this phone is worth it right now especially since it is new and will constantly be recieving OTAs in the coming months.
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ayush rao said:
Thats not what I meant, Huawei does use the recovery to update like any other phone but their recovery doesn't let the user to sideload their own OTA files. U'll have to use their Dload method which is an absolute pain.
Further, the Magisk page u posted here mentions the system and vendor must not be modded so that means you can't use any app like Titanium Backup to block or uninstall apps since it tampers the system. Thats really annoying since the whole point of rooting is to modify the system. Also if u used TWRP then u will have a hard time trying to find the right recovery file corresponding to the firmware u r on. It is really hard for Honor devices since u'll have to download a large file and, using a tool on XDA, extract the images u need. IMO rooting this phone is worth it right now especially since it is new and will constantly be recieving OTAs in the coming months.
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Ah, ok. Thank for your help!

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