Having some issues, trying to figure out if it's a defect. - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

What's going on guys, I'm having some serious issues with my HTC-10 I just got on Thursday from swappa... I'm trying to figure out if these issues are just software or if my phone is a dud...
Here are the issues:
1) Extremely bad cell reception, generally I have 1 bar, and rarely 2 bars and even maybe less than 5 times today I remember seeing 3 bars. I was getting this low reception in areas where I used to get maximum service.
2) When using ear-buds or other headsets for phone calls, the other person can barely hear me... if at all. It's bad enough that trying to use ear buds for a phone call is basically impossible.
3) While in speaker phone mode, the other person has an extremely hard time hearing me even if I am 5 inches away and speaking quite loud. Yet google can hear me for voice to text decently.
4) Randomly after a few hours of use, 2 cores of the processor seem to get stuck... they never drop below 1.8ghz, this just makes no sense to me... Why would 2 stay locked up so high? Two show something low like 377mhz or something, but the other 2 never drop below 1.8ghz. I noticed this because I was confused as to why the phone was suddenly very hot and the battery was draining extremely quickly. Like 1% per minute. O.O So i looked and found a setting in the rom I am using (Viper) that shows the Core's Frequencies in the Notification Drawer. Why is this happening?
5) The Audio output from the headphone jack is extremely good, mainly because the stereo separation is just fantastic. BUT... general sounds like ringtones and notification tones are just very weak. My previous daily driver, my oneplus one is just about 2x as loud. Maybe like 1.75x. It's very very noticeable (in a bad way) and I missed 2 calls and several sms messages today due to this.
6) This is the weirdest one... So... just for fun I was comparing the 10 and my oneplus one side by side, doing little "tests" by seeing who could open apps faster. And... the OnePlus One actually beats the 10 about half of the time... Wtf? We had 801, 805, 808, 810, and now 820. So that's Four Generations higher...yet sometimes slower? I'm not sure if this is a "problem" or not, I'm just shocked. The 10 lags in general scrolling times sometimes has this... strange touch delay, but in the OPO none of these issues exist even though the touch screen is off sometimes when typing. Uh... So unsure.
So anyway, can someone shed some light on this?
(update) I forgot to mention that my oneplus one also has this 2 stuck cores issue, but it's 1.2ghz... So I'm just at a loss here.

Locklear308 said:
What's going on guys, I'm having some serious issues with my HTC-10 I just got on Thursday from swappa... I'm trying to figure out if these issues are just software or if my phone is a dud...
Here are the issues:
1) Extremely bad cell reception, generally I have 1 bar, and rarely 2 bars and even maybe less than 5 times today I remember seeing 3 bars. I was getting this low reception in areas where I used to get maximum service.
2) When using ear-buds or other headsets for phone calls, the other person can barely hear me... if at all. It's bad enough that trying to use ear buds for a phone call is basically impossible.
3) While in speaker phone mode, the other person has an extremely hard time hearing me even if I am 5 inches away and speaking quite loud. Yet google can hear me for voice to text decently.
4) Randomly after a few hours of use, 2 cores of the processor seem to get stuck... they never drop below 1.8ghz, this just makes no sense to me... Why would 2 stay locked up so high? Two show something low like 377mhz or something, but the other 2 never drop below 1.8ghz. I noticed this because I was confused as to why the phone was suddenly very hot and the battery was draining extremely quickly. Like 1% per minute. O.O So i looked and found a setting in the rom I am using (Viper) that shows the Core's Frequencies in the Notification Drawer. Why is this happening?
5) The Audio output from the headphone jack is extremely good, mainly because the stereo separation is just fantastic. BUT... general sounds like ringtones and notification tones are just very weak. My previous daily driver, my oneplus one is just about 2x as loud. Maybe like 1.75x. It's very very noticeable (in a bad way) and I missed 2 calls and several sms messages today due to this.
6) This is the weirdest one... So... just for fun I was comparing the 10 and my oneplus one side by side, doing little "tests" by seeing who could open apps faster. And... the OnePlus One actually beats the 10 about half of the time... Wtf? We had 801, 805, 808, 810, and now 820. So that's Four Generations higher...yet sometimes slower? I'm not sure if this is a "problem" or not, I'm just shocked. The 10 lags in general scrolling times sometimes has this... strange touch delay, but in the OPO none of these issues exist even though the touch screen is off sometimes when typing. Uh... So unsure.
So anyway, can someone shed some light on this?
(update) I forgot to mention that my oneplus one also has this 2 stuck cores issue, but it's 1.2ghz... So I'm just at a loss here.
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You got a dodgy phone. RUU if you have no option. Don't know what swappa is, but sounds like second hand sale. Start fresh. You didn't really give much details about phone/carrier/firmware etc, so I'm not sure. I don't have a one plus to compare, but would bet my life HTC is faster. Definitely software related.

purple patch said:
You got a dodgy phone. RUU if you have no option. Don't know what swappa is, but sounds like second hand sale. Start fresh. You didn't really give much details about phone/carrier/firmware etc, so I'm not sure. I don't have a one plus to compare, but would bet my life HTC is faster. Definitely software related.
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Derp! Ah you're right I forgot the details... Lol sorry I listed that late last night.
AT&T, and the latest firmware that just came out.

Honestly I've had nothing but issues buying stuff from Swappa which always ended with me returning the item and getting my money back.
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Lancerz said:
Honestly I've had nothing but issues buying stuff from Swappa which always ended with me returning the item and getting my money back.
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What? I've bought and sold many devices with issues :0

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[Q] Do you regret your purchase/upgrade?

Hi Fellow Members from all over the World:
If you knew all the Desire HD issues before you buy it/upgrade, would have you bought it/upgraded?
Please post your comments and share youir experience!
I thought this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817464 was dealing with this topic (backwards from your) very well ...why create another one?
not in the slighest i thought it was good to start with but today after some searching it was brought to life
M_T_M said:
I thought this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817464 was dealing with this topic (backwards from your) very well ...why create another one?
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Mine is general AND has a poll, the other one is too specific and restrictive: proximity sensor and battery. In mine, you can vote and eventually explain why. That's why I created a new thread.
Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.
kuba1410 said:
Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.
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agreed, the speaker quality is terrible and so low
Hell no this phone rocks.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
By the way, I'll vote and answer when I get mine. I pre-ordered mine as I'm due to an upgrade and they said I'll get it tomorrow but I know the demand for the DHD is so high that it might take longer.
who knows said:
agreed, the speaker quality is terrible and so low
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Isn't it? You would expect more from a flagship phone and boasting "Dolby Mobile" and "SRS", the nexus one had none of these and although the speakers were rubbish too, they still where better then those on the DHD.
Absolutely not! I got mine yesterday & I LOVE it. I cant stop playing with it
Ignoring the battery issue (it's getting better after few charge cycles though), I don't regret it all.
today i took mine out for a solo test run for the first time. came off charge at 10am and 12 hours later has 35% battery, after 45 minutes of gps, 3 hours of wifi internet and and hour of angry birds. oh and 3 phone calls. thats not bad. this is after 8 complete charge cycles done over 4 days. when you use it heavily it dies quick, but pace yourself and it does juuuust fine.
the camera is shockingly bad though. white balance is terrible, focusing in anything but perfect light is crap, and the image quality is questionable.
and the ear speaker volume is a little quiet for calls in loud environments, but its CLEAR. i had no problems hearing what the other person was saying, even in a noisy cafe.
I'm not really shure if I would have bought it and these are the reasons why:
battery life is not that good, although I expected this so it's not really a reason, though I'd like to mention it
"Locations" only works with data connection, so what's the use of preloaded maps then? I want to see my location without having a data connection (when roaming abroad) but this is not possible, why not? such a shame. This should be possible. I even think it's ridicoulously easy to implement in a firmware update, though I wouldn't really know
Speaker is absolutely useless. I never hear it when it's in my pocket and to make matters worse, the vibrator is not one of the best either. It makes a lot more noise than it should and it just vibrates fast, not hard. The lower the frequency and the bigger the amplitude of the vibration, the harder you feel it. Every phone in this price range I ever had, had a better vibrator
camera quality is very disappointing. On the DHD's screen it all looks very nice and crisp, untill you copy the shot to your pc, bummer... I was expecting a serious improvement in quality, coming from an iPhone 3GS but sadly this is not true
setting up the dlna to work (if compatible, which it is rarely!) is harder than running to the store, buying a Nokia N8 + hdmi cable, transfer some movies to it and connect it to your tv. So, kinda useless...
is it really that much trouble to install a LED notification light that you can actually see from an angle?
Ok, flash in the browser works, but how... it's slow and laggy
to sum it up, the DHD is still a fantastic phone, but to me a flagship device should excell on EVERY field, or at least be way above average on every field. This means GPS solution + speaker + camera... everything! And it just doesn't, not even by a long shot.
Honestly I was expecting more from the DHD
for the moment I'm keeping it because I still feel there is no phone out there that can offer me this much, but as soon as Symbian revamps their UI, I'm going back to Nokia. On the insides, S60 is still a very good OS and I love it for its possibilities but sadly it looks like crap and we're too spoiled by iOS and Android to go back there...
kuba1410 said:
Isn't it? You would expect more from a flagship phone and boasting "Dolby Mobile" and "SRS", the nexus one had none of these and although the speakers were rubbish too, they still where better then those on the DHD.
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Dolby is when you use headset not the speaker
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kuba1410 said:
Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.
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Same here. And the colors on the N1 look way overdone. I don't even like to look at it. I read so much on the bad speaker, but I must say I think I have one the better ones I guess. The loudspeaker on mine is very good. I can make too loud sometimes. No distortion at any level. I actually like it. Better than my N1.
The phone arrived four days ago. No regrets yet...
Greenjinky said:
Absolutely not! I got mine yesterday & I LOVE it. I cant stop playing with it
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i bet you do
I've had this phone three weeks (I guess that makes me an old timer) and even now despite the much documented issues of speaker, battery life I can still say not only do I have no regrets, it's the best phone I have ever had.
matthiasdeblaiser said:
I'm not really shure if I would have bought it and these are the reasons why:
battery life is not that good, although I expected this so it's not really a reason, though I'd like to mention it
"Locations" only works with data connection, so what's the use of preloaded maps then? I want to see my location without having a data connection (when roaming abroad) but this is not possible, why not? such a shame. This should be possible. I even think it's ridicoulously easy to implement in a firmware update, though I wouldn't really know
Speaker is absolutely useless. I never hear it when it's in my pocket and to make matters worse, the vibrator is not one of the best either. It makes a lot more noise than it should and it just vibrates fast, not hard. The lower the frequency and the bigger the amplitude of the vibration, the harder you feel it. Every phone in this price range I ever had, had a better vibrator
camera quality is very disappointing. On the DHD's screen it all looks very nice and crisp, untill you copy the shot to your pc, bummer... I was expecting a serious improvement in quality, coming from an iPhone 3GS but sadly this is not true
setting up the dlna to work (if compatible, which it is rarely!) is harder than running to the store, buying a Nokia N8 + hdmi cable, transfer some movies to it and connect it to your tv. So, kinda useless...
is it really that much trouble to install a LED notification light that you can actually see from an angle?
Ok, flash in the browser works, but how... it's slow and laggy
to sum it up, the DHD is still a fantastic phone, but to me a flagship device should excell on EVERY field, or at least be way above average on every field. This means GPS solution + speaker + camera... everything! And it just doesn't, not even by a long shot.
Honestly I was expecting more from the DHD
for the moment I'm keeping it because I still feel there is no phone out there that can offer me this much, but as soon as Symbian revamps their UI, I'm going back to Nokia. On the insides, S60 is still a very good OS and I love it for its possibilities but sadly it looks like crap and we're too spoiled by iOS and Android to go back there...
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Very good points dude.
mancuk29 said:
Dolby is when you use headset not the speaker
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Didn't know that, any way, this till makes you think that speakers have some quality to them.
bobbyphoenix said:
Same here. And the colors on the N1 look way overdone. I don't even like to look at it. I read so much on the bad speaker, but I must say I think I have one the better ones I guess. The loudspeaker on mine is very good. I can make too loud sometimes. No distortion at any level. I actually like it. Better than my N1.
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Actually, the my first impression was: Nice, big screen, but the colors are off.
I had a black wallpaper on my N1, put the same on DHD and it looked bleached.
After over one week of usage I have no reservations as to the colors, the screen is pure brilliance, I am never going back to a <4.3" screen.
You must be lucky with the speaker. Youtube is nigh unusable without headphones.

Love this phone, BUT...

I recently had the SGS2 & Iphone 4 and couldn't wait to get the Galaxy Nexus. I've had it as my primary phone for nearly 2 weeks now. I get that no phone is perfect, but I must say I did have higher expectations due to all the hype backing it up. I'm thinking of returning this phone back to the store due to the following issues:
Battery Life is horrible
Camera quality is poor
Speakerphone volume is too low (yes, even with Volume+)
Google Music constantly crashes while multitasking
While accessing your voice mail and dial pad is on the screen, proximity sensor doesn't deactivate quick enough before your face presses buttons
There doesn't appear to be a "search" feature in the native Exchange e-mail app
During a phone call, when a text message is received, there is no audible sound or vibration (this should be a no brainer feature to have) - light flow is too buggy
That's about it for now. Now I really hope that these items can be addressed via an OTA update, because quite frankly, that's one of the reasons I went with a Nexus phone.
My battery life is great. A full day of use with no charge.
skynet99 said:
I recently had the SGS2 & Iphone 4 and couldn't wait to get the Galaxy Nexus. I've had it as my primary phone for nearly 2 weeks now. I get that no phone is perfect, but I must say I did have higher expectations due to all the hype backing it up. I'm thinking of returning this phone back to the store due to the following issues:
Battery Life is horrible
Camera quality is poor
Speakerphone volume is too low (yes, even with Volume+)
Google Music constantly crashes while multitasking
While accessing your voice mail and dial pad is on the screen, proximity sensor doesn't deactivate quick enough before your face presses buttons
There doesn't appear to be a "search" feature in the native Exchange e-mail app
During a phone call, when a text message is received, there is no audible sound or vibration (this should be a no brainer feature to have) - light flow is too buggy
That's about it for now. Now I really hope that these items can be addressed via an OTA update, because quite frankly, that's one of the reasons I went with a Nexus phone.
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same here, coming from a galaxy note, battery life sucks. I've had the phone off the charger for 30 min and with 6 min of screen time, its already at 96%.
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yep battery life could be better but that's why I have my "slim" 2100mah on the way. I do wonder about the camera though. I am very experienced at photography and even though
I steady all of my shots they still come out grainy and looking like the ISO has been jacked up. I almost feel as if I took better shots with my thunderbolt.
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The battery life is pretty crap. I hope the upgraded battery lasts more than 4 hours of constant use. :|
mike2518 said:
same here, coming from a galaxy note, battery life sucks. I've had the phone off the charger for 30 min and with 6 min of screen time, its already at 96%.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Remember that it doesn't charge to 100%; it's likely that it fell almost immediately to 97-96% right when you unplugged it.
Besides, 30 minutes isn't enough time to give you a real feel for how the battery is going to last you.
I agree on the camera. Even my HTC Legend takes better pictures. Only a tiny bit of movement makes the pictures unusable. Crap! Hope they improve that in future updates.
Everything you listed appears to be solvable via an ICS update from Google, except maybe for the battery life.
The only thing that concerns me on your list is the speakerphone volume. If the speaker itself is fully capable hardware wise, then a software update hopefully should achieve louder audio, unless the speaker is just crap. I use speakerphone a lot so thanks for bringing this to my attention, something I wouldn't have thought to test out in the store.
Everything else on your list is not a big deal, it will get fixed. Thats the benefit of Nexus.
Good point guys. The only other concern I forgot to mention is that when you change the phone's orientation from portrait to landscape (or vice versa), it takes a while before it changes. Sometimes I have to shake the phone (I'm not even kidding) and then right afterwards, when I attempt to change orientation it works just fine. Let's hope a software patch addresses these issues.
I agree about the speaker volume, I keep missing calls & texts when I am out because I just cannot hear them on the Nexus over the background noise. Also the camera is rather underwhelming, though the video recording isn't bad.
skynet99 said:
Good point guys. The only other concern I forgot to mention is that when you change the phone's orientation from portrait to landscape (or vice versa), it takes a while before it changes. Sometimes I have to shake the phone (I'm not even kidding) and then right afterwards, when I attempt to change orientation it works just fine. Let's hope a software patch addresses these issues.
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Yea, i noticed this as well, the accelerometer is very slow on this phone. The transitions themselves are very fluid, but it does take an exuberant amount of time. Meh, software bugs i guess, it'll get ironed out in the end.
Super Chimp said:
I agree about the speaker volume, I keep missing calls & texts when I am out because I just cannot hear them on the Nexus over the background noise. Also the camera is rather underwhelming, though the video recording isn't bad.
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Download Volume+ (by meltus) from the app store and set it to around +8, itll make a world of a difference.
The orientation change isn't a bug, its set at whatever time-lag the development team set it too. If you run a CPU meter in your task bar, the thing doesn't even jump when you rotate. The time-lag is set to a delay time to reduce battery drain for common motions like passing it to a friend or shifting around in bed watching videos. It would be nice to be adjustable, but its set to what it is... like 2-3 seconds. However, I'm sure the orientation code is probably on a low/medium priority thread so some times it could take 3-4 seconds based on background processes. <shrug>
I think orientation speed is nothing to complain about. As long as my home screen swipe without lag and the app drawer opens without gitters, I'm a happy camper!
slowhatch said:
Download Volume+ (by meltus) from the app store and set it to around +8, itll make a world of a difference.
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From the description it sounds like it is really for rooted devices, which mine isn't?
I miss my Thunderbolt...
I read something interesting on another post referring to the LTE Galaxy Nexus. "If you don't get it - don't get it." Those words have echoed in my head as I have been trying to like the GN. Am I deficient in my understanding of the platform and developer orientation. Or is there something fundamentally wrong that I should expect these issues being on the front edge of the 4.0 wave? regardless, my rooted Thunderbolt was awesome! My rooted, unlocked bootloader GN has been somewhat disappointing for many of the reasons mentioned here plus many of the software I used on the Tbolt don't support ICS yet so I lost functionality big time. I am on the verge of assigning my GN to a secondary line and putting my Tbolt back to daily use until GN is solid.
Arent these the types of things one can "assume" will come up when getting a phone like this? It's got a brand new flavor of android. No one troubleshoots, tests like the people over at Apple. I've come to expect things like this. Even with Apple at times. The bugs arent quite squashed yet.
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From the description it sounds like it is really for rooted devices, which mine isn't?
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im not rooted and it works perfect.

Do I return the phone DOA or,

Hi guys, Im new to the forum and figured there would be some pretty cluey tech guys on here to ask some questions/raise concerns of mine.
I have a HTC one X and it has the banding issues, especially when running games or youtube. It also makes click or pops in my headphones when scrolling. The battery is very random, one day I got an amazing 16 hours with moderate/solid use (2.5hours talk time, lots of internet, bluetooth andWIFI on, etc), but then the day before I got maybe 6.5 hours.
The whole warming up thing is a non issue, its a quad core device in a 8mm shell - its going to get warm I belive.
But the above issues are real, Ive never seen this ugly banding or green static down the left side of the screen? Crazy and ugly!
My iPhone 4S was having some battery issues when i first got it, and would drain in 4 hoursm but once fixed it can last with bluetooth and WIfi on the whole time, about 18-24 hours no prob on a regular day for me.
Obiously HTC is more power hungry, more pixels (double) and quad core etc... but why is it random?
Oh yeah the last problem, when I used the camera, 2 issues.
1. It started flashing white screens on and off.
2. It doesnt record audio sometimes.
Sorry but this is horrible and how long does HTC take with the updates, I know apple usually 2-4 weeks.
Any help or suggestions? Ive had a SGS2 before as well, and although not as impressive and having an ugly UI, it was stable.
I'm with you on the battery, it doesn't make sense at the best of times.
I am yet to get more than 3 and half hours on screen time (real usage) yet though and i'm on about my 7th or 8th charge cycle.
This is good as it gets I fear.
It is a little strange that it could be so bad, and they made the battery non-removable? Surely they tested it and found they could make it last a whole day (12-16 hours moderate use) Its a mobile phone, not a home phone.
ONE981 said:
Hi guys, Im new to the forum and figured there would be some pretty cluey tech guys on here to ask some questions/raise concerns of mine.
I have a HTC one X and it has the banding issues, especially when running games or youtube. It also makes click or pops in my headphones when scrolling. The battery is very random, one day I got an amazing 16 hours with moderate/solid use (2.5hours talk time, lots of internet, bluetooth andWIFI on, etc), but then the day before I got maybe 6.5 hours.
The whole warming up thing is a non issue, its a quad core device in a 8mm shell - its going to get warm I belive.
But the above issues are real, Ive never seen this ugly banding or green static down the left side of the screen? Crazy and ugly!
My iPhone 4S was having some battery issues when i first got it, and would drain in 4 hoursm but once fixed it can last with bluetooth and WIfi on the whole time, about 18-24 hours no prob on a regular day for me.
Obiously HTC is more power hungry, more pixels (double) and quad core etc... but why is it random?
Oh yeah the last problem, when I used the camera, 2 issues.
1. It started flashing white screens on and off.
2. It doesnt record audio sometimes.
Sorry but this is horrible and how long does HTC take with the updates, I know apple usually 2-4 weeks.
Any help or suggestions? Ive had a SGS2 before as well, and although not as impressive and having an ugly UI, it was stable.
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Regrading glitches if your are getting them on the side of the screen and while gaming and camera, you might have a defective unit i advice you call HTC
However make sure you have non of the develop options enabled, they look like bugs when enabled if you didn't know what you are doing
Try the tips in here first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590956
Random battery has to do with android and there might be an app in the background eating it or something off in the firmware, an update regarding this is imminent
HTC usually is generous on updates, major OS updates take up to 6 months, bug fixing small updates doesn't usually take long two updates can happen in the same month, flagship phone get the priority in updates

First Impressions (and questions) - AT&T Version

All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
Alpione said:
All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
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Thanks for doing this, i too have and iphone 4, can you please tell me compared to the 4, how loud and clear is the speaker compared to the iphone 4? Thanks!
Alpione said:
All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
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Thanks for the update. I was planning on picking one up tomorrow, but there seems to be more overwhelming negatives than positives from those that got theirs early. I think Google may have really dropped the ball on anointing LG as their official hardware vendor for the Nexus 4. There seems to be widespread overheating issues with the Nexus 4 which shares the exact same hardware as the Optimus G, sans LTE of course. Cause for concern of the reliability of the internal components as well as the glass back having cracked in 2 review units is pretty disheartening, think I'm going to hold off for now.
1. OG has auto bright limit. Proportionately with temp, phone apply bright limit. It is not a hardware trouble.
If your phone is too hot, return it.
2. Try *147359# at dial. It may show popup menu.
So far no problems, one thing is annoying - notification LED is on the power button, can't really see it, also doesn't stay on, just blinks once, kinda dumb.
So I really am liking this phone. Its not perfect, but its incredibly fast, has a great screen, and has some good customization possibilities.
Going to try Eco mode tomorrow to see how it performs and compare battery life. Seen some reviews that say it nearly doubles battery life, which would make it quite good.
The code mentioned above gave me an error, so I'm still looking for a way to turn off 4G.
As for the heat, I got that message in the parking lot at after I got it and again when it was plugged in, but its cool now on the couch.
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I've had no issues with the temp on mine as of now. But then again I set my brightness at 63%. My lite blinks more then once but it only blinks I think like every 30 seconds or so. I'm still watching that I could be wrong. Going to to a you tube review on this tomorrow. I will post it here and on the at&t optimus g forum as well. So far I'm loving this phone.
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I just switched from iphone 4 to this too and I gotta say it feels ridiculous looking at how small the iphone 4 screen is now after getting used to this.
For me the biggest complaints are the camera. I really don't like the quality and the other is the width. I can't get used to holding it. This is probably just a personal problem but it's feels too wide for me.
Other than that it's a great phone. Very fast sans project butter.
Oh n I don't think I can go back to iphone
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Agreed. The camera is average.
Back on the heat thing. For whatever reason, I haven't had any more heat problems since the first couple of days. No issues.
A
Further overall impression after several days of use:
1. Battery life is so-so. Getting through a whole day is a 50/50 proposition, which is a significant drop from my old iPhone 4.
2. Camera, as mentioned, is mediocre.
3. Speed is still great.
4. Screen is still great.
5. Sound is pretty good, but not as good as iPhone 4. Signal from the headphone jack is a bit quieter than i4.
6. Internal speaker is kind of tinny and weak.
7. Voice calls over ear piece are plenty loud and sound good.
I really want to like this phone, but I'm coming up with some limitations. We'll see what happens with the development, which could help #1 and that's my biggest concern.
A
I personally like the camera. Better then my sg3
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All I can say High Quality phone. And the software is sooo smooth
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Yeah, in liking it and will probably keep it. Just being very particular.
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Alpione said:
Yeah, in liking it and will probably keep it. Just being very particular.
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Being "very particular" is good in my book. Thanks to everyone on this thread. I hope to see a lot more join in.
On the heat issue, based on my experience with my DInc...
Charging really heats the battery, so doing anything will lead towards overheating.
Holding it in your hand (the more skin contact the worse) or laying it on it's back (worse on a soft surface) prevents heat from escaping.
Releasing heat (IMO) is best done screen down, propped up against something, so that the phone is barely touching any surface. (Alternatively, lay it screen up on a cold hard surface, and move it periodically... contradicting my previous point.)
I'm itching to upgrade, but I'm waiting to see what's what. The LGOG is the current point of reference for all other droids out there. So I'm really hoping to hear many good things (esp. root and unlocked bootloader). But I also really want to hear all of the nitpicking details, because I expect "perfection" from everything. [OT] Yes, I am disappointed a lot of the time. After all, I'm using Microsoft at work and home. [/OT]
For the LED thing, do any market apps work on this?
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After a week
After owning this phone for about a week and using the Note 2, Galaxy s3, and the One X+ for a bit, I think this is the best phone out there as far as fluidity goes, and its not even on jelly bean. I wish I can rip off the camera on One X+ and glue it on the optimus G but oh well.
If you're holding out because its not perfect, you're right its not. But you'll be hard pressed to find a phone besting this in the 4.7" form factor for a while. Now if you want to go to a phablet, I would suggest you to try the Note 2 for a bit, but you have to make sure you don't wear skinny jeans, have big hands, are proud of yourself (people look at you when you hold it up to your head) or not scared of face cancer (it warms up your face like nothing when talking for a while). But it's a real great phone, I wish there was a Note 2 mini with the same specs.
Of course, there is the Nexus 4, which I got to play with once, for like 5 minutes, and that was awesome. Sadly, you know all about what it's missing, and personally, I thought that between Jelly Bean 4.2 and no microD or LTE, I would go sans Jelly Bean 4.2. I can live with Jelly bean 4.1.
I dropped my screen brightness about 5% each day till i got used to it and now my optimus G lasts longer and I have no problem looking at a < 40% screen brightness indoors. =/ It helps with the heat.. actually I don't feel much heat anymore either and I still dont use the eco mode. It would be nice if it could automatically use eco for less intensive things and then switch to full for games, but it seems to just stay at eco the whole time.
Hope this helps anyone being on the fence. Oh and I use atnt
I actually prefer my optimus g over my nexus. Better battery life. Plus I scores better on benchmarks.
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kydkupa said:
I actually prefer my optimus g over my nexus. Better battery life. Plus I scores better on benchmarks.
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Funny how that is even possible when internally it's identical?
A lot of people really like this phone. Wondering how it compares to the SG3 though?
Muffinman51432 said:
Funny how that is even possible when internally it's identical?
A lot of people really like this phone. Wondering how it compares to the SG3 though?
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They aren't identical. From an operation perspective they have different OS and different radio.
Seems like JB for phones isn't "fully baked" (or at least not for these LG devices). Anandtech got better performance out of the N4, when they chilled it in the freezer 1st.
dbgeek said:
They aren't identical. From an operation perspective they have different OS and different radio.
Seems like JB for phones isn't "fully baked" (or at least not for these LG devices). Anandtech got better performance out of the N4, when they chilled it in the freezer 1st.
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True,what I really meant was same processor/ram, however much more to the phone. I want a phone today, however the N4 looks better in some ways the LGOG in more. If I wasn't sick i would be at AT&T or Best buy right now

Reports of Dimming On Over Heating

Just read the review by PC Mag, and I have to admit it's making me a little hesitant to pick up the phone Sunday. Essentially when the phone gets warm it auto dims the screen. I wish he posted more details about the issue.
I've been jazzed about the phone for a couple of weeks now, but it does have some drawbacks for me right out of the box. The non-removable battery, the lackluster camera, and lack of micro-sd slot on the Sprint version. Still I could live with those issues, by and large, but the dimming issue reported by PC Mag has me to the point where I'm reconsidering buying in.
I'm hoping people who get this phone over the weekend weigh in with their experience on the issue.
Here's the relevant excerpt:
"One big problem: I did most of my testing with the screen brightness set to maximum. I noticed it dip considerably after about 10 or 15 minutes of benchmarking. When I checked on it in the phone's Settings, I saw the brightness level had dropped down to 66%. I tried to turn it back up, and got the message, "Unable to brighten more due to high temperature. Try again later." I encountered this issue on multiple occasions. Especially when using processor-intensive applications like games, the top half of the phone becomes increasingly warm. LG claims it has not encountered this issue, but two test units as well as our AT&T model of the phone did the same thing."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411011,00.asp
Who keeps their phone on max brightness? 66 is twice what my brightness is set on :/
But yes, I will agree that it's an unusual thing to force user to take those measures.
daryllh said:
Who keeps their phone on max brightness? 66 is twice what my brightness is set on :/
But yes, I will agree that it's an unusual thing to force user to take those measures.
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Totally agree. That's why I'm sort of waiting with anticipation for people to get them in their hands and report their experience with that issue. I've got my current phone set to like 30% most of the time, so this is workable, but there are times when I need that brightness maxed out for a significant length of time.
I'm hoping the reports are good. I really want this phone.
If the phone overheats I'm going to ask Sprint to cover the restocking fee when I return it. On the contrary, that's the only review that has mentioned overheating that I could find though.
sn0w said:
If the phone overheats I'm going to ask Sprint to cover the restocking fee when I return it. On the contrary, that's the only review that has mentioned overheating that I could find though.
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Yeah but they said it happened with three test sets, with both the AT&T and the Sprint hardware versions. Looks like it dims by design given the warning message they received. That tends to indicate LG knows they run hot on heavy usage.
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Yeah but they said it happened with three test sets, with both the AT&T and the Sprint hardware versions. Looks like it dims by design given the warning message they received. That tends to indicate LG knows they run hot on heavy usage.
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That's not good news, I'm going to stay optimistic with it since it's already on the UPS truck and if it overheats on any normal use I will return it as defective. In all fairness, I've never had a smartphone that didn't overheat, especially during tethering.
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received mine yesterday and I was able to recreate the pc mag error. It wasn't that hot either, wasn't doing much. I'm a bit concerned.
faithfulshark said:
received mine yesterday and I was able to recreate the pc mag error. It wasn't that hot either, wasn't doing much. I'm a bit concerned.
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I haven't encountered the error yet, it runs a bit warm, but I keep my screen at about 36% to save battery.
My screen brightness is at 40% and looks great.
People have to understand the powerful hardware runs hotter. It's physics and unfortunately, unlike PC, cars etc, they can't simply install a better cooling system so they use software to tone things down when things get heavy. Also, it's not "overheating" unless the phone acts erratically. Running "hot" does not qualify as "overheating".
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My screen brightness is at 40% and looks great.
People have to understand the powerful hardware runs hotter. It's physics and unfortunately, unlike PC, cars etc, they can't simply install a better cooling system so they use software to tone things down when things get heavy. Also, it's not "overheating" unless the phone acts erratically. Running "hot" does not qualify as "overheating".
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More like running warm, I think people might be over reacting a bit whenever this issue is brought up.
This user is reporting random reboots. Also, the sprint rep recommended they pull the battery for about a minute... on the lg optimus g.... with the fixed battery door.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/499063#499063
Sorry to hear that. No problems yet. The camera is disappointing, but everything else is working well. The dimming issue is an issue. I was out taking pics to test the camera and needed more brightness but the phone was locked at like sixty three percent or maybe forty three i cant remember.
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