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Verdict? Seidio 3500 mah or Sprint 2600 mah?

So what's the verdict? I've read tons of threads on these two batteries, all good things but my question is, if the Seidio 3500mah has more power, why not get that one over the sprint's 2600mah? Just makes more sense to.
from my understanding:
1) They are the same size
Only drawback from getting the Seidio would be:
1) There are reports of the back cover not completely "fitting" properly on the EVO, is this still the problem or have they fixed their back cover for a more snugged fit?
2) Sprint's battery comes with two color backing, white and black
Your impressions? What would you get?

Well one clear benefit of the Seido battery is that they also make a case that fits it. I don't know what shape the back on the Sprint model is but unless it is like the Seido you wont find a case to fit.
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I can see a potential advantage to the HTC 2600mAh battery:
It's pretty apparent that the Evo has some issues charging extended batteries. There seems to be some kind of charging limit which can stop the charge cycle prematurely when you charge them in-phone. Being as the 2600mAh extended battery is an OEM aftermarket part it stands to reason that HTC might be working on a fix for that, but there's no guarantee that the same fix will work for a battery with ~35% more capacity that the OEM extended battery.
One possible scenario is the battery may talk with the phone (handshaking) via the extra contacts on the battery. That's actually pretty common with cameras and camcorders. For example, my Panasonic camcorder automatically adjusts the "Time Remaining" display when I put a larger Panasonic battery pack on it but the display doesn't even work when I use a brand-X pack.
But the truth of the matter is there is no guarantee that HTC is even working on a fix for it's own extended battery and if that's the case, the extra 35% capacity and the fact that Seidio offers cases and other accessories which support their extended battery gives the advantage to the 3500mAh battery.
However: batteryboss.org reports that the 3500mAh Seidio battery actually has only 2821mAh of usable capacity which is only 81% of the published capacity. Unfortunately there is no like & kind data on the HTC battery to compare that to.
Pete

as far as the back cover goes on the Seidio, it fits VERY tight.... this suprises me because it came with one of the tabs broken. (i superglued it back on, who knows if it will stay?)
It lasts me all day long so far, I have been trying to run it down so I can get a full charge at night. I know that conditioning is not "required" with these types batteries, but I still like to do it anyway.
It does seem to drop to around 70% rather quickly, but the lower the battery gets, it seems the longer it takes to display a lower percentage.

I had both but stayed with the seidio only cause they had a case for it , I got the shell case just covers the back and sides , but as for battery life am only getting 2hrs more than the sprint of course with my type of usage which is heavy.. so there both good just depends if you want a case now or wait till sprint releases cases for theres...

I have the seidio battery, which has a back cover that fits pretty snug, despite coming with one broken clip.
The battery capacity is confusing. I charge it until the light turns green, with the phone on. It will drop 20-30% really fast, then decreases slowly.
If I charge it until the light turns green, then turn it off and plug it in, it will charge more until the light turns green again. As soon as I turn it on, it drops to 96% by the time the phone starts up.
I plan to keep doing this, as I had a simillar problem with an HTC Mogul, however that phone would just freeze at the 80% threshold, and each time I did it raised that threshold to a higher percentage before it would crash. I know this phone is not crashing, but I wonder if there is some OS level driver or setting that needs to be adjusted or hacked? If there is, I have NO clue how to do this.

HTC Evo 3D Battery work in Thunderbolt?

The HTC Evo 3D comes out later this month with a stock HTC 1720 mAh battery, if that will work in the Thunderbolt than I want one! (I prefer OEM batteries and not having to make the phone fatter is preferred)
Please share your thoughts below

scook9 said:
The HTC Evo 3D comes out later this month with a stock HTC 1720 mAh battery, if that will work in the Thunderbolt than I want one! (I prefer OEM batteries and not having to make the phone fatter is preferred)
Please share your thoughts below
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Why not just buy a 1700 mAh battery now..? HTC Express has them

It's not REALLY 100 mAh.

After some investigating it does not look like it will fit ;(
http://www.anandtech.com/Gallery/Album/1123#12
Hoepfully someone will be able to try and confirm though

You can tell by looking at it that it's not going to fit. It's square, and looks to be thicker than ours. Also has some plastic different where it actually locks into the phone.

Siedio makes a 1600ma battery that's slim and on ebay there are 1800's that are slim... but who knows the quality of the ebay ones.

I've got one of the seidio 1600's, and while I can't say it lasts any LONGER than the factory battery, I can say it doesn't last any less than the factory battery.

That is the problem with the thunderbolt, the slim battery doesn't offer much of a power boost over the stock battery. You have sacrifice the form factor for a fat battery. I have tried a knock off battery from eBay and it doesn't longer than stock. I purchased the larger VZW extended battery.

DrPepperLives23 said:
It's not REALLY 100 mAh.
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Just got them the other day.. They last a lot longer than the stock battery on CM7 so I'm going to assume they're at least more mAh than the stock

From what I remember, you can't get more power into a smaller package with Li batteries. The reason is because the cell size is standard. There's no cell that's smaller that can store more power.
So to produce a Li battery that had more storage, you have to add more cells. More cells = larger battery. Looks that those so called "slim" batteries are just the standard battery marketed as having more capacity, when they really don't.

crabjoe said:
From what I remember, you can't get more power into a smaller package with Li batteries. The reason is because the cell size is standard. There's no cell that's smaller that can store more power.
So to produce a Li battery that had more storage, you have to add more cells. More cells = larger battery. Looks that those so called "slim" batteries are just the standard battery marketed as having more capacity, when they really don't.
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So does my CM7 just magically work better..?

joshnichols189 said:
So does my CM7 just magically work better..?
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maybe you had a defective battery or less effective... no 2 phones are the same i doubt every battery is perfect..... and maybe its all in your head or your stock battery wasnt calibrated correctly. lots of options

thejondude said:
maybe you had a defective battery or less effective... no 2 phones are the same i doubt every battery is perfect..... and maybe its all in your head or your stock battery wasnt calibrated correctly. lots of options
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Idk man, calibrated the stock battery every time I flashed a new rom, in recovery and with the app.. and it's not in my head because two days ago on CM7 I had four hours of screen on time (don't judge.. sometimes a 30 min Mario 64 break turns into a few hours..) and 15 hours total which I never saw with stock.. D: Maybe my original battery was defective but I always had better battery life than those who claim only 6-8 hours

Seidio battery
Seidio batteries DO cram more power in the same space. They dont use standard cell sizes and they use less protective shelling around the battery to squeeze in a slightly largers cell size. I remember my old Verizon VX6700 battery from them being a "soft" pack battery... no hard plastic shell like the standard OEM batt.

Mugen power extended battery review

I reviewed my mugen power extended battery for the sensation here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371731 also before and seeing the performance i also ordered one for my Galaxy S II as this phone gives real trouble when it comes to battery life.
So here is how the review goes.
Well, as always – Mugen’s delivery was on time – took around 4 days to get to me here, it was well packed in the usual compact packing with padded protection. Though the packet was alittle whoped maybe the cargo handlers were a little rough, but that’s okay – the battery was perfectly fine.
Inside the packet we had the backdoor, the 3200 mAh battery and the warning card with all the instructions – very basic and simple.
Mugen offers 3 types of back doors with this particular battery – a black one, a white one and a black one with a stand. We got the black one with a stand.
The battery is huge, and almost double the width of the sleek and slender phone, weight wise doesn’t affect much, but obviously heavier. this battery can ruin the looks of the phone – so this is certainly not for the ones who still want to maintain the thinness of their SGS II.
Besides that the door is pretty well built, fits perfectly, not squeaky like other replacement doors.It feels as plastic-y as the stock door – though feels stronger certainly – and the the stand which has a chrome finish does give it a nice touch.
The battery is rated at 3200 mAH which is nearly double the capacity of the stock battery which is rated at 1650 mAh. Going by the capacity we should expect double the battery life, but is it actually double ? Well, we would certainly give full marks to the manufacturer – because it does work wonders.
Alright, first of all let me tell you that I have been using the phone since quiet some time and the stock battery does not last more than a day with heavy data usage which includes constant data transfer, multiple push email accounts, 24X7 connectivity to IMs, Twitter and Facebook, media playback and basic gaming and calls.
I would consider the stock battery backup pretty poor for a user like me, who needs constant Internet connectivity. Here comes the Mugen Power battery in the picture.
I used the phone with the extended battery for a few days at a go, and the results certainly were good and as expected keeping my previous experience with Mugen batteries in mind.
With same usage patterns as I had on stock battery the extended battery did last me over 2 days at a go – which is very good – a little more than double. I assume not everyone uses their phone as intensively as me, so the usage can be much more – and mind you I’m constantly connected using 3G or wi-fi which are big battery drainers.
The Mugen battery Im talking about certainly does make a difference to the way your phone looks, and it’s a huge compromise for battery life – especially on a phone as thin and good looking as the Galaxy S II, though if you are a user like me – who is on the go throughout the day – and not always near a power source to charge the phone – then it is a worthy compromise. The battery is worth it if you travel a lot and spend long hours in transit, though if you stay put at one place I wouldn’t recommend this battery for you – you can go for the thin version which has higher capacity than the stock one, though the size is the same. Overall, this battery being priced at almost $100 is certainly more expensive than others in the market – but, then it’s performance has proved it’s worth – but certainly it is not for everyone. I'd say buy it only if you need it and don’t mind the added thickness.

Hi can u link the site where did u brought this one? and before using this did u charged it or its ready to use???

dan83m said:
Hi can u link the site where did u brought this one? and before using this did u charged it or its ready to use???
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it was at about 50% when it came - but you should always charge it to 100% before you start using, that's what the instructions say !

The problem with the 'chrome' stand is that it will show scratch marks after awhile. And it is not too steady, can wiggle from side to side. Also, the 'chrome' is flaking off for my case now.

dan83m said:
Hi can u link the site where did u brought this one? and before using this did u charged it or its ready to use???
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Hi there! Just registered on XDA, am busy getting my "10 useful posts," hehehe. You can buy Mugen Power's extended batteries from their site and they ship to anywhere in the world. I'd link you, but I think I need some more useful posts first. Just Google for HLI-Si9100XL and you should be able to find Mugen Power's details for the battery reviewed in this thread. Cheers!

Seidio 3800 mAh Extended Battery vs Battery cover case

Welcome.
For some time, I looking to buy extended battery, because the stock battery works for me too short.
Already considering increased battery 2000 mAh Samsung, but that does not give too much more than stock.
The second idea was the Seidio 3800 battery, but this expense is getting a bit too big.
And the third idea is to External Battery Case.
Cost is much better than the Seidio, and if I'm counting (2200 mAh Extended Battery + 1750 stock battery) it even gives you more energy.
Can anyone use it already?
How is it exercised?
It seems to me to work like as a charger permanently connected, so it is not an additional battery, but charger, which is non-stop charge the battery.
Do not destroy / reduce battery life?
And did this significantly increases the size of the phone?
Is it possible to choose the cover?
As for the Seidio, a little do not succeed in choosing the right kit.
The manufacturer's website there are several, and I myself do not really know what they are different.
I need one that will enable me to mount the 3800 mah battery and attach the phone to your belt.
Thank you

I have had sedeio extended batteries before and they where great. I have also has a charger case it was powerskin brand but I must say it sucked. The charger case I had made my phone really hot. I'm planning on buying the extended battery and convert case since I need battery life and protection. And I believe it comes with a belt hook
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DroidDavi said:
I have had sedeio extended batteries before and they where great. I have also has a charger case it was powerskin brand but I must say it sucked. The charger case I had made my phone really hot. I'm planning on buying the extended battery and convert case since I need battery life and protection. And I believe it comes with a belt hook
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I got the Seidio extended battery too. I also have the case that comes with it. It's big but it hasn't been a problem for me since it eliminated the charging-all-day hassle.

is Hyperion battery really THIS much better?

So my stock battery just wasn't cutting it as I would get at best nearly 4 hours of on screen time by using every battery saving feature I could think of, and always keeping Wi-Fi and GPS turned off. I ended up buying the Hyperion battery and this thing is s complete beast. Maxing my phone out, higher brightness, leaving GPS and Wi-Fi all on, playing games and watching streaming media, I can eclipse 4 hours of screen on time before I even get down to 60% remaining.
While this is great, it got me thinking that this battery isn't supposed to be more than double the life of the stock battery is it? While I'm certainly not complaining about the Hyperion, I would like to know if there is s better battery it there that would allow me to use the default case cover without making my phone huge and still allow for better battery life than I'm getting? I have two different stock batteries and both are exactly the same.
Are there any better ones out there that don't change the size of the phone?

theraker007 said:
So my stock battery just wasn't cutting it as I would get at best nearly 4 hours of on screen time by using every battery saving feature I could think of, and always keeping Wi-Fi and GPS turned off. I ended up buying the Hyperion battery and this thing is s complete beast. Maxing my phone out, higher brightness, leaving GPS and Wi-Fi all on, playing games and watching streaming media, I can eclipse 4 hours of screen on time before I even get down to 60% remaining.
While this is great, it got me thinking that this battery isn't supposed to be more than double the life of the stock battery is it? While I'm certainly not complaining about the Hyperion, I would like to know if there is s better battery it there that would allow me to use the default case cover without making my phone huge and still allow for better battery life than I'm getting? I have two different stock batteries and both are exactly the same.
Are there any better ones out there that don't change the size of the phone?
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no , there isnt any other way, if u want ore juice, its gotta be stored somewhere right, unless u double the size , u cant double the battery life. no shortcuts, teh ones that claim so are all fake so dont bother with those.

Its possible. Motorola did it with the RazrMaxx. that tiny phone has a 3300mah battery. I wish some company could look into how they made it that small. i mean if Motorola can do it. samsung should be able to pack at least 4500mah into a similar battery. lol
i read this and it upset me cuz motorola always seemed to be behind on everything and i just never liked anything they put out. the razr maxx doesnt appeal to me but its gay that that it is better in so many different ways.
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-motorola-droid-razr-maxx-hd-2/1003704/

shawn0223 said:
Its possible. Motorola did it with the RazrMaxx. that tiny phone has a 3300mah battery. I wish some company could look into how they made it that small. i mean if Motorola can do it. samsung should be able to pack at least 4500mah into a similar battery. lol
i read this and it upset me cuz motorola always seemed to be behind on everything and i just never liked anything they put out. the razr maxx doesnt appeal to me but its gay that that it is better in so many different ways.
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-motorola-droid-razr-maxx-hd-2/1003704/
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Pretty sure the battery size is larger than the S3 battery. I think the largest possible capacity they can fit into a original size S3 battery is around 2500mAH.

I'm not looking to match my Hyperion with a thin battery. I'm looking for a compromise. Something that'll fit with the normal back but will do better than the stock battery.

shawn0223 said:
Its possible. Motorola did it with the RazrMaxx. that tiny phone has a 3300mah battery. I wish some company could look into how they made it that small. i mean if Motorola can do it. samsung should be able to pack at least 4500mah into a similar battery. lol
i read this and it upset me cuz motorola always seemed to be behind on everything and i just never liked anything they put out. the razr maxx doesnt appeal to me but its gay that that it is better in so many different ways.
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-motorola-droid-razr-maxx-hd-2/1003704/
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The Razr Maxx battery isn't that small. It is simply longer and a bit skinnier than the GS3 battery. Samsung could have done it with a slightly different design of how the battery fits in the back of the phone.
OP: After properly calibrating my Hyperion battery, I religiously get Just over 3 days of usage. I like my Hyperion battery.

theraker007 said:
I'm not looking to match my Hyperion with a thin battery. I'm looking for a compromise. Something that'll fit with the normal back but will do better than the stock battery.
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Im going to be testing the Hyperion 2200 and Anker 2200. Ill post the updates on my battery review thread. I might test the Mugen 2300.

rlatjs17 said:
Im going to be testing the Hyperion 2200 and Anker 2200. Ill post the updates on my battery review thread. I might test the Mugen 2300.
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Let me know what you find out, ive been skeptical of getting the hyperion and anker 2200 or even the mugen 2300 cuz im not positive if just a 100-200mah increase is gonna make that much of a difference.
Mugens website shows good reviews on the 2300 but the customers dont really have any stats to back up the claims in their reviews

shawn0223 said:
Its possible. Motorola did it with the RazrMaxx. that tiny phone has a 3300mah battery. I wish some company could look into how they made it that small. i mean if Motorola can do it. samsung should be able to pack at least 4500mah into a similar battery. lol
i read this and it upset me cuz motorola always seemed to be behind on everything and i just never liked anything they put out. the razr maxx doesnt appeal to me but its gay that that it is better in so many different ways.
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-motorola-droid-razr-maxx-hd-2/1003704/
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I would rather have a faster charging method :fingers-crossed:

I to would like to know about the hyperion 2200 battery. How much more it is over the stock Samsung battery. Thanks
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battery technology just needs a major overhaul... they keep putting bigger displays, more processing power and still using similar battery capacity from the past 10 years or so..
read this article: We need better battery life and more storage space before 1080p displays arrive
Motorola is one of few companies that see battery capacity important.. still, they need to make them smaller and more power, making them bigger isn't the solution..

MarsVoltron said:
I would rather have a faster charging method :fingers-crossed:
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Flash a rom with Fast Charge embedded. Aokp and a few other aosp roms have this built in and it works really well. You can get a full charge in a fraction of the time it normally takes.

tft said:
battery technology just needs a major overhaul... they keep putting bigger displays, more processing power and still using similar battery capacity from the past 10 years or so..
read this article: We need better battery life and more storage space before 1080p displays arrive
Motorola is one of few companies that see battery capacity important.. still, they need to make them smaller and more power, making them bigger isn't the solution..
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Half of that article is uninformed crap. It didn't take a genius to figure out that bigger batteries are better, but the rest of what that guy wrote was nonsense.

aquemeni said:
Flash a rom with Fast Charge embedded. Aokp and a few other aosp roms have this built in and it works really well. You can get a full charge in a fraction of the time it normally takes.
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that is not what fast charge is. all fast charge is, is allowing the phone to take as many amps as possible from a PC connection. when using AC power (or good car chargers) nothing changes.
also, BTW, the faster you charge the battery, the less life it has. (as in in you will need to replace it sooner.)

Fyi, I have 2 Anker batteries. They're nothing special. They're on par with stock, just no NFC, but cheap. I rotate through all 3 batteries regularly and can never tell the difference.
Imho, this is really the best you can expect with a battery with the same physical dimensions as stock.
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has anyone tried these?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3200mAh-...Accessories&hash=item27cb7a2d91#ht_1985wt_941
3200mah in the same size?!.. too good to be true?

quasio said:
has anyone tried these?
3200mah in the same size?!.. too good to be true?
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Yes, it is too good to be true. Cheap ebay battery sellers regularly lie.

rlatjs17 said:
Im going to be testing the Hyperion 2200 and Anker 2200. Ill post the updates on my battery review thread. I might test the Mugen 2300.
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Any good news on testing the Hyperion, anker or mugen ?

A 3200mah pack can be the same size as a 2100mah..
There are a few things that come into play:
- The actual case thickness of the pack
- the cell count inside.
Internally we dont know how many cells make up a stock 2100 pack. Could be a single 3.7volt cell @ 2100mah or could be 2x 3.7volt cells @ 1100mah each(wired in parallel)... the 3200 could be one single cell.
So a 3200mah lipo verywell could fit, and perhaps it just a hair thicker but still fits..