Google play store needs app/game test kitchen who votes yes? - Shield Android TV General

I recently thought to save the incompatible device issue in play store why don't they just make a website and play store app section called test or test kitchen,this would mean people could test the app/game in order to see if it runs on their device,meaning eg.shield android tv owners and other users of certain devices and os's can see if the apps and games run or not with given compatible next to the games and apps,then all purchases that didn't work before as they can't be installed can be tested to see if they run,and refunded if they buy something that doesn't run,who votes yes to this I'm interested to see the results.:laugh: I have requested that they do this,the rep said it's a good idea and he said he would pass it on to the development team. I was hoping I can get some of you xda members here to start backing this idea and then I will present a link to this thread when and if the number of people saying yes gets high if it ever gets to say 1000 maybe then.As unlikely as it is,but it would be great for some people a large number I imagine that can't access their purchases and for those with devices unfairly showing incompatible device next to apps and purchases in play store,especially when the app can and should work with their devices.It looks like they may have added it now sort of with beta testing,that's not really what I meant though lol.This is for all users to test every app and game to try and see if it will work,and get the refund if it doesn't,it would provide a far better archive to the public.

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MetroTube is out!

I think Microsoft should stop fighting Google over their YouTube app and just fund these guys as they're making an amazing job.
The trial is fully functional but really they deserve to be paid for what they get you.
Enjoy
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/apps/8d93224f-2808-e011-9264-00237de2db9e
Edit: If you already own LazyTube you'll get updated to MetroTube free of charge. Process is the same as any other app update.
Peew971 said:
I think Microsoft should stop fighting Google over their YouTube app and just fund these guys as they're making an amazing job.
The trial is fully functional but really they deserve to be paid for what they get you.
Enjoy
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/apps/8d93224f-2808-e011-9264-00237de2db9e
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While I do love lazyworm, MS should never stop fighting as there is still no way to select which app is the default YT launcher and I'm sick of copy pasta. Plus its just crappy business practices on Googles part.
Just updated. Its great , but it seems like they're trying too hard to copy the Android App.
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dtboos said:
While I do love lazyworm, MS should never stop fighting as there is still no way to select which app is the default YT launcher and I'm sick of copy pasta. Plus its just crappy business practices on Googles part.
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it makes no sense that I must download the fake YouTube app just to launch videos posted on websites.
Nice, it didn't update itself and now I have to pay for it again...
Edit: nevermind, it works now like it should
vetvito said:
Just updated. Its great , but it seems like they're trying too hard to copy the Android App.
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I think you're getting this backwards, maybe it's android getting too much inspiration from Metro. Just look at their new marketplace
dtboos said:
While I do love lazyworm, MS should never stop fighting as there is still no way to select which app is the default YT launcher and I'm sick of copy pasta. Plus its just crappy business practices on Googles part.
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Actually you're right. That said, if they do get the green light form Google I would like them to fund Lazyworms and integrate it as an official app rather than starting from scratch. At least Lazyworms gives the app full support, the same cannot be said from whoever did the official twitter and facebook apps for instance.
morpheuszg said:
Nice, it didn't update itself and now I have to pay for it again...
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You never have to pay twice for an app you've purchased. Mine updated just fine.
Peew971 said:
You never have to pay twice for an app you've purchased. Mine updated just fine.
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So you bought LazyTube and it updated to Metrotube? That was something I'm curious about.
PG2G said:
So you bought LazyTube and it updated to Metrotube? That was something I'm curious about.
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Yes sir. They had said already that all the LazyTube owners would get a free update.
Peew971 said:
Yes sir. They had said already that all the LazyTube owners would get a free update.
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Oh okay, nice. It's a great app, will buy it just because its nice that they are adding something so essential to the platform.
Peew971 said:
I think you're getting this backwards, maybe it's android getting too much inspiration from Metro. Just look at their new marketplace
Actually you're right. That said, if they do get the green light form Google I would like them to fund Lazyworms and integrate it as an official app rather than starting from scratch. At least Lazyworms gives the app full support, the same cannot be said from whoever did the official twitter and facebook apps for instance.
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are you serious? This is almost a replica of the Android YouTube app. Which is great, Metrotube offers more widgets/tiles.
I like how the subscription tile shows pictures instead of a number. I just don't like the heart, but I'll live with it. Also like how I can read comments and watch the video, reminds me of Android. Good update. They even responded to my questions.
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are you serious? This is almost a replica of the Android YouTube app. Which is great, Metrotube offers more widgets/tiles.
I like how the subscription tile shows pictures instead of a number. I just don't like the heart, but I'll live with it. Also like how I can read comments and watch the video, reminds me of Android. Good update. They even responded to my questions.
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Actually I've just picked up my girlfriend's Nexus S and MetroTube is nothing like the Android YouTube app except maybe for having comments just below the video. Very odd that we don't see it the same way
Metrotube is nice about the best 3rd party app I have. This thing runs so smooth, you would think it was built into the OS
Peew971 said:
I think Microsoft should stop fighting Google over their YouTube app and just fund these guys as they're making an amazing job.
The trial is fully functional but really they deserve to be paid for what they get you.
Enjoy
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/apps/8d93224f-2808-e011-9264-00237de2db9e
Edit: If you already own LazyTube you'll get updated to MetroTube free of charge. Process is the same as any other app update.
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I would love to pay to buy this apps but my country is still currently not supported by MS in marketplace and Zune, would not like a fake address live id approach, and would like LazyWorm to have another payment channel like moBudget (pay with paypal and download the trial version and it will work like the paid version...)
Forget it. All players seem to have a portrait video player with the ability to swipe left and right while the video still plays. They seem to have came up with the same idea on different sides of the earth.
Lazytube portrait mode didn't allow reading of comments while watching a video, the video played but you couldn't read and watch at the same time. This update made it possible to read and comment just Like another famous player. Yeah, its nothing like that other player though, I'll be blind.
dtboos said:
While I do love lazyworm, MS should never stop fighting as there is still no way to select which app is the default YT launcher and I'm sick of copy pasta. Plus its just crappy business practices on Googles part.
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i would really like to hear it from MS and google about what disagreement they are having. MS is bringing youtube to Xbox. So Google is not completly blocking them out. If google is blocking just for WP, isn't it abuse of market leadership? Google is already under fire for such behavior, I don't believe that's the case.
If anyone has links to any good, accurate information, please let me know.
Having said this, Metrotube is amazingly well done app. It deserves the name Metrotube as it beautifully adheres to metroUI.
Just downloaded this. Much better looking than the HTC Youtube (not that I complained about it).
Does anyone know if the free trial actually expires? Does it have all the features of the paid version? Perhaps the benefits to purchasing is gaining access to updates?
^ who knows. No one ever gave a definitive answer. I'll take metroTube anyway.
It probably is Google though, as there is absolutely no Google apps on this OS. However you have to look at the direct competition to Google which is Bing. So, its complex.
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morpheus1982 said:
Just downloaded this. Much better looking than the HTC Youtube (not that I complained about it).
Does anyone know if the free trial actually expires? Does it have all the features of the paid version? Perhaps the benefits to purchasing is gaining access to updates?
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no differences, and it doesn't expire. You will get updates. He said the .99 version is to help them out.
morpheus1982 said:
Just downloaded this. Much better looking than the HTC Youtube (not that I complained about it).
Does anyone know if the free trial actually expires? Does it have all the features of the paid version? Perhaps the benefits to purchasing is gaining access to updates?
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As far as I'm informed there are no limits or registrations. Trial and paid version are currently absolutely identical. You should be able to receive updates as well. The only "limitation" about the current offer is: it won't last forever. Means if you want the full app for free, better get it now.
But honestly, I'd pay those $0.99 anyway (if I hadn't already done it months ago). In my opinion LazywormApps deserve a lot more than that.
I looked up the youtube API restrictions... I think this might be the reason
What can I do if I'm running into quota limits?
The following information may help you to avoid exceeding quota limits:
•The quota system ties API usage to a specific developer key, which means your application is less likely to be flagged for quota violations if it specifies a developer key in its API requests.
•Different types of API operations count differently toward quota calculations. Generally, you can make more frequent HTTP GET requests to retrieve data than POST, PUT or DELETE requests to modify data.
•Your application should avoid making API requests that do not originate from user interaction. For example, continuous requests that are a part of a background synchronization or bulk import process are likely to trigger quota violations.
If the API does return a quota violation error, your code will need to detect the error and handle it appropriately. we recommend that you stop all API calls from your application for 10 minutes to "reset" your quota. When you resume making API calls, scale back on the frequency of your requests.
If you are still running into the quota limits within these guidelines, and you feel that the quota is throttling legitimate traffic from your site, please contact us.
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So I think Google is not willing to remove the limit for MS. If MS makes a dafault Youtube client, it is very likely to hit the limit as all WP users will be using it rather than other apps like Metrotube.
Other than that, I didn't really find any other restriction in the API.
The description in Marketplace says that the paid version supports HD video streaming. I'm guessing the trial is HQ only.
That said, my Focus seems to stutter even on HQ :/ Anyone else have that issue? Maybe I've dropped it one too many times, heh.

[Opinion] Play Store Screening be done by open handset alliance (HTC, SAMSUNG etc.)

So I have this idea, I hope someone in HTC can do this (Ideally this should be done by all manufacturers)
1. App is submitted in Play Store - Google adds it
2. App is quality checked by HTC for each HTC device before it shows up in say HTC one X play store. Same done by Sammy and others
3. If any problem HTC refuses the app into the Play Store for HTC one X / or for any HTC device, till the developer fixes the problem
4. Plz HTC implement it
Why should they do it ? Because we give them money and they should place quality control over the apps so we get the best experience (smooth, takes advantage of hardware as per each device, end spam)
Edit. I still stick to my point that brand that loose value due to hiccups of apps is the open handset alliance. Google will come out the winner in the end because their handsets are developer handsets thus the apps will always run smoothly on them.
I think the open handset alliance should take an active part in screening for quality of app.
Good idea, but impossible in the long run. There are far too many apps to make this anywhere near workable.
LoL
You serious? Every app has several versions and there are like tons of htc models out there. Even if we don't count custom firmware it is a impossible task..
And this not even a petition.. you are just a lazy bum hoping someone will do the job for you. So if you cant even find the effort for testing out apps... Then just use the standard apps
Grtz
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My favorite statement in this case: buy an iPhone . Or at least a windows phone.
Google gave so much free space to manufacturers, that it impossible, neither in long, nor in short run.
The only way for HTC, is to create own analogue of store with games best passing for your device (apps compatibility is already very good). Like nvidia did.
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My question is, what does HTC get for doing this?
Why do you even want HTC to do this? Apps in the market are by default supported by all phones that pass Google's CTS tests anyway, and all OHA member companies' phones must pass that test before being given the green light by Google to be released.
Do you want them to bankrupt faster?
It is nowhere near being possible.
and I must say I find your approach very very unhealty!
you can not ask for anything from anyone just because u pay them.
HTC is a phone manufacturer and does not promise you anything about any android application.
even if we try to take this approach seriously, HTC is putting sense on top of android which gives us HTC's own way of using your android device, with their own apps in some way. that is what you pay them for.
It's not HTC's job to check the quality of APPs in the Play Store.
This is like saying HP should be checking software is compatible for thier PCs running Windows.
(The software developer or Microsoft should be checking in that case - not HP)
APPs should be either checked by Google (who run the Play Store and Android) or by the developer of the APP itself.
HTC are a hardware manufacturer, not an APP developer....
the public do this already.
Just be careful what you download, pick apps with many downloads and/or many high ratings.
PLEASE NOT!
This wouldn't be a good idea ... Just think about how long it takes to put Sense 4.5 on top of Jelly Bean release. Quality checking apps by manufactures would definitely be a step in the wrong direction.
It would be better when HTC releases a plain Android (asop) version for the HOX.
complete useless and rubbish imo
no way, small company dont care end user
Maybe if you say
"Pretty please with a cherry on top"
They might just do it xD
What a ridiculous suggestion. Let them concentrate on producing great hardware and software.
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Hell no.
I don't like any kind of censorship....
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vua777 said:
no way, small company dont care end user
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What does this have to do with caring about the end user?
Nothing at all.
Still I would argue that if apple can ensure that all apps use the hardware why can't the open handset alliance do the same in assisting google in screening apps. As to why I made the thread I recently downloaded drag racing and immediately I had a notification full of ads which I don't mind however I uninstalled it and now the ads pop up on the screen whenever I switch on WiFi.
HTC and other manufacturers including Samsung need to step up if they want better quality apps for the end user. I would like to play a gameloft game without having to add a mod , changing kernels etc
Just my opinion and yes someone commented of me being lazy .... Yes its a public holiday here so nothing better to do other than making a thread.
No
Hell no!
Play Store is completely Google's thing, plus I don't want HTC fooling around with the way the Play Store works, AT ALL. Google's trying to make the Play Store a cleaner place I believe.
dexteral said:
Still I would argue that if apple can ensure that all apps use the hardware why can't the open handset alliance do the same in assisting google in screening apps. As to why I made the thread I recently downloaded drag racing and immediately I had a notification full of ads which I don't mind however I uninstalled it and now the ads pop up on the screen whenever I switch on WiFi.
HTC and other manufacturers including Samsung need to step up if they want better quality apps for the end user. I would like to play a gameloft game without having to add a mod , changing kernels etc
Just my opinion and yes someone commented of me being lazy .... Yes its a public holiday here so nothing better to do other than making a thread.
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Then rate the app with one star and write a comment. That way you'll help all the others that consider downloading it and hint the developer that the app needs improvement. And vice versa - look at the ratings and comments of others before installing an app. Play Store is for people that can decide for themselves if they want the app or not. Anyone wanting to live in a walled garden and put his/her trust in someone else to not allow "bad" apps (basically those that hurt that someone's interests) should go with iOS.
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Warning from Glu mobile

I am quite worried about what Glu mobile sniffs from my tablet. I use the latest stock firmware, not even root, spent some time in playing their game Bombshells: Hell's Bella, and found that their Career points system is not working since they released it few months back.
So I emailed their support, their replies are quite impolite and simply assumed me to be a cheater. I tried to email them several times and told them that is potentially a bug in their software, but below is the reply I just got from them (including ignore me several times).
I would like to report this rough developer to Google, but not sure how, any suggestions please? I am even happy to let Google check my Nexus7.
Response Via Email (Stan) 01/24/2013
We found unusual activities unauthorized cheat, tool or exploit in our game. Your account is flagged for abuse.
If we detect any further activity of this kind, we will take further measures against you including, but not limited to, revoking of your license to use Glu games. Please review our terms of use at this link:
www dot glu dot com/terms
Your compliance with all provisions of our terms of use is required in order to continue using Glu’s products.
Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation.
Regards,
Glu Mobile Customer Care
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If I were you I'd delete and make a new account. What happened is that someone likely hacked your account and is doing things under your account name. Happens all the time with Mobile games.
I'd tell them to ban it. Then create a new one if you like. IMO, glu games suck and are always looking for intrusive permissions or depend on users spending real world $.
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[Q] What Happens To Apps That Disappear From FireTV App Store?

I am quite positive I have posted to the wrong forum. My question has nothing to do with rooting nor side-loading or any of the other wonderful things you are doing here. The problem is, I don't know where else to ask my question and after reading the community guidelines:
XDA-Developers was founded on the simple principle that *sharing is good* and when many people share what they know, everyone benefits. We exist upon this ethos. We respect each other, we share with each other, we do not judge one another, and we help all who ask.
I figured this was probably the best place to ask.
I have created a tool that monitors which apps are officially available for the FireTV. It tells me as soon as something new lands, if something goes on sale, etc. The problem is - sometimes apps that were available disappear.
For instance - Redux TV (ASIN=B00H8X82AC) It was there for a couple of weeks and this morning, it appears to have disappeared completely from the app store (not just FireTV apps). Did anyone have this installed - does it still work - should I continue to list this as a compatible app?
Some of the items that have disappeared are still available on the app store but not Fire TV such as Twitch (ASIN=B007SOQBCM) and Infinite OverDrive (ASIN=B00K32M1TS). Others were flagged/banned such as VeneziaTestApp CIC Sayak June 14 DeviceLaunch Malware Flagged 001 (ASIN=B00L4VKLBM).
Here is one more for safe measure - TubeMusic - Play Billboard top songs on your TV (ASIN=B00KJW667A)
My problem is I don't know if I should continue to list the apps or remove them from my tool since I don't know what happens to them after they are no longer available from the app store (I didn't happen to install any of these apps). Has anyone here installed any of these apps through the app store (not side-loaded) and can tell me if they still function on the FireTV?
Thanks!

If you have noticed apps going missing on Google Play in the updates list,read this!

For anyone that is reading this,I encourage you to get Google's attention for this utter nonsense and join together to show some backlash against these changes.
I found out about this because I was neglecting to update some listed apps because the changes of the apps weren't worth the update yet.
Recently I noticed a few of the apps I know had updates to them mysteriously vanished from the updates list on my Android Shield TV Pro (2015),which is still on Nougat OTA 6.3, and I couldn't figure out what was going on for a bit.
So when I found out they were suddenly listed as incompatible on Google Play via an already installed Opera for Android web browser that I commonly use,I had to message the app developers.
One of those apps I helped brainstorm a few features for ,so I am fairly acquainted with one of the devs more than the other app developers that I also notified via e-mails.
Turns out,they have to go through some new survey/review garbage now in order to pass a test designed for the most lax Shield TV users (users that never side-load anything and never use a keyboard on it,or users who only use a small number of apps).
Sorry if this offends any users that don't do a bunch of extra things on their Shield TV,its Google messing with Android TV again which causes more extensive users to suffer.
The attached image shows what stuff every app must do in order to become "eligible" to be accessible on a Shield TV.
That means,any abandoned old app that was previously listed more-or-less or any app that the developers don't want to update to make it compatible or "eligible" or any app that the developer is too lazy to even bother with making it compatible again will be locked away from proper updates if they were previously listed on Google Play as compatible for being possible to install/update directly.
The biggest problem in all of this mess is that anyone on the Oreo update is stuck with that stubborn and extra difficult untrusted app sources change that makes it basically impossible to install many apps due to them failing to show up in the list that comes up for allowing you to install each app that you wish to side-load.
I encourage anyone that reads this to help get Google's attention for this utter nonsense and give them some backlash.

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