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[Q] Anyone considering returning the E4GT due to bad battery life?

I am one of the unfortunate souls who is experiencing terrible battery life due to the AndroidOS bug. I feel like I spend half my waking hours trying to figure out what is causing it and doing different things to my phone improve my battery life.
I'm definitely getting sick of it and while I realize that Samsung/Sprint may eventually come out with a software update that fixes the problem, I'm not sure I'm willing to wait since it could take months (and the issue was supposedly fixed for GS2 phones in 2.3.4).
At this point, I'm considering going back to the Moto Photon--it's battery life is simply amazing. My only issue with the Moto is its unusable camera.
Anyone else getting as frustrated as I am and considering jumping ship to another phone?

What have you done to fix it?
Are you saying that you still have the bug even aftera factory reset ?

Why not just take it back and have them give you a new one since you obviously have a defective phone?
Also how many hours are you actually getting out of the battery?
I don't see any other phone worth switching to and I have had them all. Each with their own specific problem. But this one here is as good as it gets
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nabbed said:
What have you done to fix it?
Are you saying that you still have the bug even aftera factory reset ?
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I've tried just about everything that has been mentioned in the AndroidOS/battery life thread (reset, wifi, autosync) but I'm still getting only 12 hours of battery life on a good day, 8 hours on a bad day
I might try exchanging the phone, but I'm hesitant to do so due to the LOS bug (I have not experienced this with my phone as of yet).
Honestly, while I love the phone in many other ways, I'm about to throw the thing out the window since 8 hours of battery life is simply not acceptable to me

limeaid said:
but I'm still getting only 12 hours of battery life on a good day, 8 hours on a bad day
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That doesn't mean anything to me. What's the display on time? How good/bad is the cellular signal?

Exchange it bro. Ive had two of these phones so far and none had this problem. I'm getting like 24-30 hours battery with like 4-5 hours screen on time. This phone had awesome battery. Download an apps called better battery stats. This will show wakelocks and processes that are draining the battery. Good luck man.
The Evo3D Killer!!!

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That doesn't mean anything to me. What's the display on time? How good/bad is the cellular signal?
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On a good day, the display is on for less than 30-45 min. On a bad day, the phone display time is somewhere between 90-120 minutes.

I pulled 16 hours ojt of my battery yesterday with over 12 on wifi and i was at 40 percent. I have to use wifi at work as i have no signal and when i do get signal its roaming. I would say that my conditions at work are far from ideal but this phone is great. My old phone would die before 1130(evo shift).
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limeaid said:
On a good day, the display is on for less than 30-45 min. On a bad day, the phone display time is somewhere between 90-120 minutes.
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Yeah bro that's awful. I would take that back immediately. There is no sense in that. U definitely have a bug in that phone. Good luck.
The Evo3D Killer!!!

return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.

madsquabbles said:
return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.
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I had the issue with the stock kernel and custom kernels. I'm just going to hold out until we can get a AOSP build and hope that using as little of Samsung's code fixes it.

madsquabbles said:
return it.
mine doesn't seem to get the android os bug unless i'm on a custom kernel. 1 week stock, no problems, 3 days on custom problems each day, back to stock + root and no problems for 48 hrs.
i still have to be 100% sure that my phone didn't like the kernel though so another test will be coming up after a few more days of observation.
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I'm on stock and have nothing out of the ordinary installed. Out of curiosity, do you have a google account with full sync turned on?

Lol 8 12 hours isn't bad with a stock battery and 4.5 inch screen. If you are in a poor reception area it could be that. Otherwise you have alot of Apps running in the background.
My advice : root it and extended battery.
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limeaid said:
I'm on stock and have nothing out of the ordinary installed. Out of curiosity, do you have a google account with full sync turned on?
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I average 15-20 hours easily on a charge, with a full sync google account
Everything Sync'd Listed below:
- Google+ Notifications
- Music
- Books
- Contacts
- Gmail
- Picasa Web Albums
- Calendar
If anything else can be Sync'd I have not run across it. I also have my Tapatalk set to notify me of PM's, and updates to Subscribed topics, I removed the accuweather widget because it only updates every 3 hours and installed Weatherbug Elite and set it to update every 30 minutes. On top of all that I browse the web regularly to visit sites that are websense'd at work, and I play dungeon hunter 2, and asphalt 6 on my lunch break. At home the phone sits on my desk until its time to pass out, only used for my Rift Mobile authenticator.

This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"

Why does the bug seem to affect the gs2 more than other phones? For example, I've never seen it mentioned on the photon forums
ajamer said:
This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"
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ajamer said:
This is a real bug, with android
the system/0 process goes crazy and chews up the battery.
I get about 12 hours with everything disabled (other than gmail sync) and suspend/0 chews up battery
well documented here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
it's a gingerbread issue, if you haven't experienced on the galaxy, you will soon
I'm also considering returning this great phone with crappy software until google releases a version of android that works.
by that time there may be a new "best android phone"
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I didn't have this problem on my evo and I don't have it on my gs2.
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i use my phone a lot while im at school throughout the day , i last using wifi and 3g, and if needed i can do a quick charge while i study in the car but i lasted to 60% using 3g for a few hours

[Q] Battery Depleting Quickly

I have had my Note 8 for a couple of months and just recently I have been having battery problems. I restored the Note 8 to factory settings (just to be sure) and am still having the same problem.
It seems that when I watch videos or play any games the battery depletes extremely quickly e.g Its 80%, I start to play the game and within 3-5 minutes the battery is 30%. I play again and its 5% and the screen dims (which is also a pain in the ....) I realise that Games and Apps use a lot of power but surely not this much.
I have looked around for battery calibration instructions and apps but are a bit dubious to try them as I have read that you can deplete the battery totally and the device then wont charge.
Just wondered if anybody else has had the same problem.
Thanks.

My note has a great battery life. For this situation I would look in the battery menu for any apps not closing correctly thus sucking battery. Remember to dis activate GPS, Bluetooth and data when not using them. Check the screen brightness is 50% or less. Automatic brightness should be fine also.
here's a lot of info related to batteries. I'm sure you will find it usefull
http://batteryuniversity.com/

Don't waste time with calibration. Sounds like the battery ifs failing or dying, either way it's bad.
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I usually have Bluetooth and GPS turned off and have the screen on Auto Brightness. I also restored to factory and the problem still persists.
One strange thing is that when I charge it from 10% it takes about 50 minutes to get to 100%. I thought that was a bit quick. The battery must be reporting the wrong charge to the OS. I wish they had user replaceable batteries in this thing although its probably not practical.
I will give Samsung a call. Cannot beleive it has happened now as I am off on holiday soon to the US and wanted to use it there.
Thanks.

chas0001 said:
I usually have Bluetooth and GPS turned off and have the screen on Auto Brightness. I also restored to factory and the problem still persists.
One strange thing is that when I charge it from 10% it takes about 50 minutes to get to 100%. I thought that was a bit quick. The battery must be reporting the wrong charge to the OS. I wish they had user replaceable batteries in this thing although its probably not practical.
I will give Samsung a call. Cannot beleive it has happened now as I am off on holiday soon to the US and wanted to use it there.
Thanks.
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Hi, I've had the same issue. I sent the device for service under warranty and they could not find a fault. They only reflashed the firmware.
Its been working fine since I got it back. I updated to 4.2.2 and its working just fine.
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batttery draining extremely fast
JCUK89 said:
Hi, I've had the same issue. I sent the device for service under warranty and they could not find a fault. They only reflashed the firmware.
Its been working fine since I got it back. I updated to 4.2.2 and its working just fine.
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same with me chas0001, and JCUK89, my situation is actually identical to chas0001, but my device is like a mth old now, i received it on august 5th 2013,
so its basically been used for jus over a mth now. and i barely use it, maybe 3 hrs a day, most days less than 1 hr, constant use.
i dont kno, can anyone help. on xda developers. ??

I called Amazon.co.uk (where I bought it from) and they agreed to replace it for me. Its was definitely faulty and unusable. I kept reading about people with the similar problems and so eventually decided to not get a replacement but a refund.
Its a shame really. I really liked the device but I need something more reliable. I also don't care for Samsung with their constantly delayed OS updates. 4.1.2 for a 'flagship' device. Surely if they get rid of that Touchwiz crap they can release timely updates. You never know even my Note 2 may get an OS update this year!
Just went out and bought a Nexus 7 (2013). NOW...what to do with those 5 Galaxy Note 8 cases

jramna1 said:
same with me chas0001, and JCUK89, my situation is actually identical to chas0001, but my device is like a mth old now, i received it on august 5th 2013,
so its basically been used for jus over a mth now. and i barely use it, maybe 3 hrs a day, most days less than 1 hr, constant use.
i dont kno, can anyone help. on xda developers. ??
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I would see of you can get it exchanged (assuming you still want to keep the device).

You and your phone. Battery life after LP update.

So has anyone noticed a severe drop in battery life since the LP update? My phone has dropped 6% using only XDA, on WiFi, and on 18% brightness. I can't go half a day before the bat is at 50%.
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Mine is slightly better
Mine is actually a bit better once I re-flashed stock and upgraded to lollipop, I had some stability issues when I flashed lollipop via twp. the tot restore method helped me.
I'm getting 4 1/2 hours + SOT and It's lasting me a whole day, on auto brightness.

My battery has been a bit better when the screen is not in use(i.e. sitting in pocket idle or streaming music), but it seems worse then before when the screen is on.

Ya I'm not sure what's going on, but I find I am having to charge it more often during the day than I did before.
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johnny tsunami said:
So has anyone noticed a severe drop in battery life since the LP update? My phone has dropped 6% using only XDA, on WiFi, and on 18% brightness. I can't go half a day before the bat is at 50%.
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Mine is real BAD.... does not hold half a day and the back, close to the low volume, gets realy hot....
Wonder if I Reset it will get better....

Nemesis1218 said:
My battery has been a bit better when the screen is not in use(i.e. sitting in pocket idle or streaming music), but it seems worse then before when the screen is on.
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this exactly for me

titoh said:
Mine is real BAD.... does not hold half a day and the back, close to the low volume, gets realy hot....
Wonder if I Reset it will get better....
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I've read about the heat issue but I haven't had it, BUT I did have to do a reset because my phone wouldn't after I first installed lollipop so that might be why I haven't had that issue.

Mines not that great either. I have greenify but not the xposed aspect, I have battery guru, I even installed a script which I normally don't do. All of this has helped minorly. Nothing like it was for me though. I factory reset when I flashed. Waiting to see if reports from official Ota has any differences.

Mine got bad first. Then I did a full factory reset and now its pretty good. Had 0% down after 12 hours at night. Normal workday usage went down from ~40% to ~25%. So instead of charging every other day I need to charge every 3 days.

I have thought about doing a factory reset to see if it helps. I know there was a cm app to backup your phone but idk if you need root. I have chosen to not root my phone, and wonder if you guys know of a good app to help backup my phone before doing so. Thanks.
I am looking into helium, has anyone had any experience good, or bad with this app?
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johnny tsunami said:
I have thought about doing a factory reset to see if it helps. I know there was a cm app to backup your phone but idk if you need root. I have chosen to not root my phone, and wonder if you guys know of a good app to help backup my phone before doing so. Thanks.
I am looking into helium, has anyone had any experience good, or bad with this app?
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Helium works well with early kitkat builds. the cloud backup option blows though. not too sure about using it on lollipop but being that it didn't work to well with late kitkat builds i doubt it'll be any better with lollipop.
also my battery life has gotten plenty better after updating and starting completely from scratch.
currently i'm sitting at 35% with 14hr and 17 min run time, auto brightness, wifi turned on and jumping back and fourth between lte because my router is going dead...

ASUS tell us what's going on.

This battery drain issue is really annoying. I have tried absolutely everything to fix it. Except unlocking bootloader and rooting. I shouldn't have to do that to get what the phone is capable of.
I sold my previous phone which was an Alcatel idol 3. Not a bad phone, just a little leggy. The battery in that phone was a 2900mAh, it lasted 2 days easy!!
This ZenFone 2 has better specs and a slightly bigger battery and I can't make it 10 hours, a lot of other users who also bought the phone have the same issues. Android OS battery drain.
I have 5 days before I can return the phone to the store ( I'll get charged a 10% restocking fee, which I should send the bill to ASUS)
Can anyone from ASUS tell me what's going on regarding a fix?? Update??
Would making a video about the issue help. ( I have access to some big name youtubers, phone reviewers) it might not help your sales though.
Thank you,
From a guy who feels himself and many others have wasted there money.

markdexter said:
This battery drain issue is really annoying. I have tried absolutely everything to fix it. Except unlocking bootloader and rooting. I shouldn't have to do that to get what the phone is capable of.
I sold my previous phone which was an Alcatel idol 3. Not a bad phone, just a little leggy. The battery in that phone was a 2900mAh, it lasted 2 days easy!!
This ZenFone 2 has better specs and a slightly bigger battery and I can't make it 10 hours, a lot of other users who also bought the phone have the same issues. Android OS battery drain.
I have 5 days before I can return the phone to the store ( I'll get charged a 10% restocking fee, which I should send the bill to ASUS)
Can anyone from ASUS tell me what's going on regarding a fix?? Update??
Would making a video about the issue help. ( I have access to some big name youtubers, phone reviewers) it might not help your sales though.
Thank you,
From a guy who feels himself and many others have wasted there money.
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I have a feeling that you have a CN sku with WW rom... Am I correct?

I bought it from a store in Canada, I live in Canada, I know it's a ww Rom, what does the cn stand for

Are you running the latest firmware and are you using Google Fit at all?

Yeah running latest updates I'm not using Google fit

Do you still get a battery drain when you use a different launcher? Ie. Nova launcher?

Do you have SD card inserted? I can't use SD card since before mediascanner finishes (500 songs on SD), all battery is drained or phone crashes and gets stuck in bootloop ... Also the mediascan clogs I/O and phone is so unresponsive that I can't turn screen on once scan starts. Removed SD card and phone works again.

To help improve battery life please ensure to turn off 'Wifi Scanning always available.' To do this go to Apps/Settings/WiFi Settings/Advance Settings(menu in upper right corner)/Scanning always available/ turn Off. Please also see the following information showing 8 ways to extend the ZenFone 2 battery Life. http://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1012981/
Please also see the troubleshooting methods provided in a ZenUI app called ASUS Support/Assistance/Battery/Battery drains fast. If still no improvement with battery then we recommend updating the firmware to the latest version. After firmware is applied we recommend performing a hardware reset including wipe cache partition. For hardware reset/wipe cache partition instructions please see the following: http://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1011956/
Sincerely,
ASUS_USA
[email protected]

I have the latest software, I'm waiting for the software fix which you guys need to provide.
I've done everything you suggested, already, nothing is working , its clearly a software bug.
What would make things easier, is if you just admitted there is a software bug, so people who have spent there hard earned money on your product would have some hope that a fix is in the works. Be honest and tell us.
My Asus phone is turned off as of today and in the box, I instead am using an Alcatel Idol 3, which is a joy to use, especially 2days battery life, with no Android OS battery drain!!

Not all Zenfone 2 have this issue. The one I am currently using can last for a few days on standby with firmware WW_2.19.40.22.
There was a new firmware released today WW_2.20.40.58
Sincerely
ASUS_USA

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Not all Zenfone 2 have this issue. The one I am currently using can last for a few days on standby with firmware WW_2.19.40.22.
There was a new firmware released today WW_2.20.40.58
Sincerely
ASUS_USA
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Of coarse your going to say that, you work for ASUS

I just checked. there is a new version
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My ZenFone 2 heated up extremely a week ago while sitting on standby on my night stand. It has drained 75% in 7 hours. Since then the battery life is terrible. I am going to perform a radiotherapy and see if that helps. Most of the day I am using my 2 year old M7 which lasts the whole day with moderate to heavy usage. If the reservoirs not improve things I will contact Asus and see the next course of action. My phone is up to date as far as firmware is concerned.
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markdexter said:
Of coarse your going to say that, you work for ASUS
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He is right, though. Battery seems to be a mixed beg for some reason? My phone was fine in .20... Buuut I upgraded it anyways to ParanoidAndroid.

Just doing a factory reset on mine and it has been on (erasing) format least 5 minutes. Is this normal.
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quicksilver53 said:
Just doing a factory reset on mine and it has been on (erasing) format least 5 minutes. Is this normal.
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yeah, takes longer than expected

I would say that 30 minutes is asking time to be stuck on erasing.
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Well, AI brought my phone to work last night and got it back into recovery and wiping status. It took about 45-50 minutes before it shut off. Then I powered it back on which brought it back to wiping. It hung there for a minute and the went to the set up screen. That is the longest I have even seen a phone perform a factory reset. Will go through the setup later. Thanks Frank for your long to how to do this.
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I was having really bad battery drain. Flashed CM 12.1 on it and it's been amazing since. Scored 48273 in Antutu and battery is lasting forever. Unplugged at 6am this morning, it's 4pm now, been using it with full brightness all day, I'm a heavy user. 45% still left.

brianhill1980 said:
I was having really bad battery drain. Flashed CM 12.1 on it and it's been amazing since. Scored 48273 in Antutu and battery is lasting forever. Unplugged at 6am this morning, it's 4pm now, been using it with full brightness all day, I'm a heavy user. 45% still left.
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It's a shame that you have to flash different software just to be able to get full use of the phone.
The amount of bloatware that came with this phone is probably the worst I've ever seen!!

Are you happy with Android 10 on this phone?

I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie.
Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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I like 10...No issues other then bluetooth connectivity occasionally acts up when connecting to my vehicle and running Pandora. I never cared for 9 and went back to 8.1 on my PH-1 until a stable version of 10 is available.

MArtyChubbs said:
I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie. Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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Other than Google headed toward completely locking down recovery, I've been happy with it. Stock, rooted, EX kernel. Not experiencing any memory or lag issues at all.

Hello,
I have the device since ~ two months. I don't have any special complaint...
Battery is rather good for the moment. September version was quite buggy..!
I think the october release improved the experience a lot...
Actually stock October image + Root + EX Kernel.
Cheers...
Sébastien.

I only have two issues, and both aren't deal breakers, but they are concerning a bit. The first is random reboots like once a week. It doesn't matter what I'm doing as it just decides to reboot. The other is a bit more concerning as it happened twice since 10 was officially released. Again it doesn't matter what I'm doing, and the screen will go black, and become unresponsive. I have to force a manual reboot, and when it tried to boot the splash screen flashes several times, and then it boots into recovery with a message "Could not load Android OS. You can try again, or do a factory resest.". I selected "Try Again", and it booted normally, but I don't like risking that. Other than those two issue it's been super smooth, and very snappy. I have no complaints about performance at all when it's working normally.

Thank you for the responses. I'll try to wipe and reinstall to see if that helps.
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MArtyChubbs said:
I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie.
Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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Glad you've mentioned the podcast problem. Same here. Either stops randomly and when going back in then it's back to the beginning. Are you using Google Podcast app?

Yes, that app has been the most frustrating. Although, iheart has given me the same problem. Nothing like listening to a 4 hour episode of Hardcore History and then losing where I was just for checking how bad I'm doing in fantasy football. Double kick in the nuts...
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I liked the Android 10. Don't have problem with apps closing or RAM issues. My problem is with the battery draining. Already done a factory reset after the OTA, but the battery life is getting worse every day. Have no social networks besides WhatsApp, using a few data because I live in small town that every place that I go have wi-fi. Using pie, have 36/38 hours with 4.5/5 hours os screen. With Android 10 now have 30 hours at best with 5/5.5 SOT. Battery is draining like 2% per hour, and it really bothers me. Also, full stock here. Probably will back to Pie soon.

november update seems to have made some improvements with battery life.

droidstyle said:
november update seems to have made some improvements with battery life.
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Battery life has been quite great for me.

Goku80 said:
Battery life has been quite great for me.
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Agree...I am getting almost 2 days of use if I run the device down to 10%.

Rafsxd said:
I liked the Android 10. Don't have problem with apps closing or RAM issues. My problem is with the battery draining. Already done a factory reset after the OTA, but the battery life is getting worse every day. Have no social networks besides WhatsApp, using a few data because I live in small town that every place that I go have wi-fi. Using pie, have 36/38 hours with 4.5/5 hours os screen. With Android 10 now have 30 hours at best with 5/5.5 SOT. Battery is draining like 2% per hour, and it really bothers me. Also, full stock here. Probably will back to Pie soon.
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Have you tried Nov update?
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droidstyle said:
Agree...I am getting almost 2 days of use if I run the device down to 10%.
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Battery life has been quite great for me.
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Did you both get the phone at launch?
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MArtyChubbs said:
Did you both get the phone at launch?
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Not for me no. I got the phone back in June.

The battery life on P3XL is garbage. The P3XL is 2 months old. I have a 2 year P2XL with the exact same setup and the exact same apps. The battery life on P2XL is at least 50% better, even though it has been used for 2 years.
With identical usage, the P3XL drains battery twice as fast as P2XL. I've compared multiple scenarios with identical usage on both phones.
So no amount of Vodoo magic will fix the battery in P3XL. It's just terrible. My hypothesis is the battery temperature. I have an app that measures battery temperature and the P3XL seems to have a similar problem as P1XL - it runs WARM.
The P2XL, however runs much cooler in temperature So for ex, browsing Chrome and checking email, the P3XL might be at 35-37 Celsius, but the P2XL will be at less than 25 Celsius in exact same conditions.
Charging the P3XL also make it reach sometimes 40 Celsius, playing game over 45 Celsius. The P2XL almost never goes over 30 Celsius even on heavy load.
The battery in P3XL also drains very quickly with screen usage. I think the phone suffers from poor optimization, bad thermals, overheating and a battery hungry screen.
I'm always stressed out when being out without a charger for the P3XL. With the P2XL - it's never been a problem. I only charge it after 2 days.

to me, Android 10 has been the worst update on the Pixel 3 XL.

v12xke said:
Other than Google headed toward completely locking down recovery, I've been happy with it. Stock, rooted, EX kernel. Not experiencing any memory or lag issues at all.
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This is exactly how I feel. Sad Google decided to lock-down recovery, but it was just a matter of time. Wouldn't be surprised if this is just another step towards eventually removing us from obtaining root. (hope not)
But other than that, I love Android 10.. I love dark mode, bluetooth has been stable for me and stock rom with EX kernel has been great. But that's also been the combo I've had on my phone for years dating back to the Nexus 6P.

Just leaving this here

And I just want a customisable navbar.
Is it so hard Google?