In case you bought an ATT Note 5 N920A and someone sold you a stolen device or did not remove their google account, well here you go
(Note this package will get you out of DM failure when your stuck on the boot screen )
To repair the root key you will need an IMEI Box
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Edc179PBU
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DECRYPTION KEY
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So these tools are to assist people in receiving stolen property? Shouldn't they instead be returning it to its rightful owner?
Gary02468 said:
So these tools are to assist people in receiving stolen property? Shouldn't they instead be returning it to its rightful owner?
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No Gary they don't build tools to use stolen property! Why should the person that bought the phone go and return it to the owner will that owner refund there money, will the guy he got the phone from refund it never this tools are made to help people that are in need not thief's!!!!!
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No Gary they don't build tools to use stolen property! Why should the person that bought the phone go and return it to the owner will that owner refund there money, will the guy he got the phone from refund it never this tools are made to help people that are in need not thief's!!!!!
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Imagine if your phone got stolen. And imagine that a week later, you tracked it down and found it in the possession of someone who'd bought it from the thief. Would you say that the phone no longer belonged to you, that the person who has it now is the new rightful owner? Or would you think that person should return it to you?
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Imagine if your phone got stolen. And imagine that a week later, you tracked it down and found it in the possession of someone who'd bought it from the thief. Would you say that the phone no longer belonged to you, that the person who has it now is the new rightful owner? Or would you think that person should return it to you?
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Buddy your beating a dead horse OK imagine you bought a phone for 500 of Craig's list now you find out its lock what do you do I can go on on with this your post above pretty much I'm so many words called him a criminal or has been doing criminal things by helping people with lack list thing! What if the guy that sold the phone called it in stolen cause he insured it ATT would black list imei now what do you have all the info on what happened probably not so all I'm telling you GARY sometimes comments are best keep in your head instead of clogging up forums that's just me you have a nice day and move on with your issue thankyou
+1 otisman. Let me clue you in on something Gary your little Crusade isn't stopping anything the thieves that choose to steal phones and resell them on Craigslist don't need me and I'm not posting anything that's one big secret I'm here to help the honest man which I've been helping in my shop for years and that's folks who gets screwed over because they went out and honestly bought a phone and then found out later on that somebody stole that phone and sold it to them and in good faith they went on Craigslist and they tried to find the original owner but they couldn't or they got stuck with the handset so don't come on here and troll my post or anybody else's because that's what your doing yeah if you have something valuable to contribute to the conversation or the Forum please do if not go away
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otisman said:
imagine you bought a phone for 500 of Craig's list now you find out its lock what do you do
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What if this phone I bought on Craigslist was actually yours, stolen from you a few days earlier? Would you say it now belongs to me and not you, just because I paid the thief $500 on Craigslist?
To answer your question: what I'd do is return your phone to you and try to press charges against the person who stole it from you. I would not try to crack the FRP and keep your phone for myself.
Gary let me explain something to you if somebody steals my phone okay and they post it online nine times out of 10 I'm never going to be able to recover that phone. When I have some lady who comes into my shop who just purchased a phone that was stolen on Craigslist I can't find out who that phone belongs too neither and the carrier is not going to share that information with you and you can't go online and find out from the IMEI number who that phone belongs to I've had plenty of customers that have taken pictures of the phone that they purchased that was stolen and posted it on Craigslist and said hey is this your phone and nobody calls them back so when people do their due diligence and they try everything to return the phone and now they're stuck with something that they paid a lot of money for absolutely I will help them like hundreds of other shops do so do me a favor right now stop your whining stop trying to make points that don't make any sense and quit trolling our thread goodbye
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Ive posted a youtube video for you guys / girls the link is in the OP
MJHawaii said:
When I have some lady who comes into my shop who just purchased a phone that was stolen on Craigslist I can't find out who that phone belongs too neither and the carrier is not going to share that information with you and you can't go online and find out from the IMEI number who that phone belongs to
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The carrier has to protect the owner's privacy so yes, they won't reveal the owner's contact information to you.
However, given the IMEI number, you may be able to get the carrier to relay a message to the owner so the owner can arrange to retrieve their stolen phone.
You can also report the stolen phone to the police, who can then help recover the money that was paid to the thief for the phone.
From what I was told by a tech some people are selling phones that work and they get 3rd party ins and after a month or however they report them stolen and get another phone plus some cash considering phones now are upwards of $700+. I am a victim of this I bought a note5 from original owner but when he posted it for sale he also posted screenshot of the imei on facebook. No problems month in phone reported stolen I took phone to at&t and told me the issue. Never asked for the phone nothing they could care less. Who should I give the phone to the man that bought it that has receipt for it that I gave $450 too? There are cases when honest people get screwed and need help. I also understand some will use this to do what this man is clearly not advocating.
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Who should I give the phone to the man that bought it that has receipt for it that I gave $450 [to]?
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That's a very different situation. Others here have been talking about helping someone keep a phone that had been stolen:
In case you bought an ATT Note 5 N920A and someone sold you a stolen device or did not remove their google account, well here you go
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When I have some lady who comes into my shop who just purchased a phone that was stolen on Craigslist [...]
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Gary02468 said:
That's a very different situation. Others here have been talking about helping someone keep a phone that had been stolen:
In case you bought an ATT Note 5 N920A and someone sold you a stolen device or did not remove their google account, well here you go
When I have some lady who comes into my shop who just purchased a phone that was stolen on Craigslist [...]
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I see what you're saying I misread it my sister dog got ran over last night and took it to vet emergency surgery and couldn't sleep. It's a harsh world we live in and in that type of situation someone loses out and can only hope they have ins. I know att wouldn't tell me nothing about who reported it stolen and didn't even want the phone. I was literally thinking police were about to show up when they said it was stolen.
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I see what you're saying I misread it my sister dog got ran over last night
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Hey, no problem. I hope everything works out for you.
(Temporarily) Stuck in boot loop after doing this
I bought a phone on Craigslist from a guy 150 miles away. I tried this method and it seemed to work (Odin reported success) but after the reboot it kept rebooting after the AT&T logo. I finally went back into recovery mode, wiped the cache and factory reset, and it booted up again. However, it still required a previous account to continue. Before the factory reset I tried just wiping the cache but that didn't help.
Did I miss something? Should I try again. The seller says I can do a hangout with him to get his credentials (and let him watch me wipe it again). But I'd rather just get this done for good. At least I think it's for good.
Go to recovery and select the option to use ADB. You won't actually be loading anything but if you let it just sit, it will wipe everything after a few minutes of not receiving any files via adb. I know this will wipe, but not sure it will to the level you need regarding Google accounts. Worth a try maybe.
MJHawaii said:
In case you bought an ATT Note 5 N920A and someone sold you a stolen device or did not remove their google account, well here you go
(Note this package will get you out of DM failure when your stuck on the boot screen )
To repair the root key you will need an IMEI Box
DOWNLOAD LINK
https://mega.nz/#!FxN0jIqa
DECRYPTION KEY
!ce4wrVhzllieGoKRuR3wIVGILWM_Ij-O7iagU8dMvMo
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Interesting
DECRYPTION KEY
!ce4wrVhzllieGoKRuR3wIVGILWM_Ij-O7iagU8dMvMo
Just wondering could we use this to implement it into a custom firmware
will this work on an sprint note 5?
if you can not bypass frp you can contact facebook tungkick777 or skype : tungkick777. Or whatsapp:+84948012006 he can bypass online via teamvwier very very fast.
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Hey guys,
I need your help. I bought of Craigslist and it was stolen.
I am always cautious, so before buying I requested ESN number from seller and called sprint to check phone, some women answered me and said Phone had no problem and I could go ahead and buy with sellers ask price. So I went to that buy and paid 400$. Later that day I called sprint again to double check, cuz phone was without box, after second attempt guy from Sprint that it was reported.
What should I do. Probably I don't have chance to prove that I bought it honestly. But as every carrier service records customer call, I can prove them that they gave me false information. I thought that owner could report it during that two owner difference between first call and second call but chance of that is very low
paata01 said:
Hey guys,
I need your help. I bought of Craigslist and it was stolen.
I am always cautious, so before buying I requested ESN number from seller and called sprint to check phone, some women answered me and said Phone had no problem and I could go ahead and buy with sellers ask price. So I went to that buy and paid 400$. Later that day I called sprint again to double check, cuz phone was without box, after second attempt guy from Sprint that it was reported.
What should I do. Probably I don't have chance to prove that I bought it honestly. But as every carrier service records customer call, I can prove them that they gave me false information. I thought that owner could report it during that two owner difference between first call and second call but chance of that is very low
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It was probably not reported yet. By the time you called again it was updated in the system. So no false info was given. That's why you should always meet at a Sprint store and do the change and activation on the spot. Nothing you can do now.
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wickedskills said:
It was probably not reported yet. By the time you called again it was updated in the system. So no false info was given. That's why you should always meet at a Sprint store and do the change and activation on the spot. Nothing you can do now.
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Maybe, I don't know... I can't afford 400$ lose..If I bring it to dealer and they flash it on Metro or other carrier, will 3G or 4G work and which carrier is best..
I don't know what to do, If I call owner he/she may not request to unlock phone, so I'd rather flash
What you SHOULD do is return the phone to Sprint and get it back to it's rightful owner. You can call the police on the person who sold you the stolen property and go after them for your money. It's wrong of you to keep something that you know isn't yours.
Sorry to hear this happen to you. You should have activated it on the spot to make sure it was good to go. And second. Why did you pay $400. The phones worth $300 max
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gyrospazjohn said:
What you SHOULD do is return the phone to Sprint and get it back to it's rightful owner. You can call the police on the person who sold you the stolen property and go after them for your money. It's wrong of you to keep something that you know isn't yours.
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This. Do this.
Some guy ripped me off on an evo, lost $100.
Edit: meant to say the s3 back to it's owner lol
Go to the police, make the report, your likely to get your money back and the evo to its original owner. Do it ASAP or the report isn't credible.
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First of all unless this was a factory sealed phone you payed too much. I got my S3 in November 2012 and it was from a 3rd party Sprint seller on eBay, which is highly rated by a lot of people. It was an open box item and flawless, I got it for $350 with a 30 day return policy and some accessories. Second if you ever buy a phone off someone on craigslist make them meet you at a Sprint store and activate it while they are there then pay them, all done in the store in front of the workers. If they disagree say bye. Last but not least that could have been their phone for all you know. They could have sold you the phone that they got on their contract then the next day called Sprint and said my phone was lost/stolen here is my insurance cost of something like $150. They get new phone and make $250. Or they just stole it and sold it to you. So lesson learned I guess for you huh. Also Sprint "may record your call for quality assurance" not they record and keep every single phone made to them for quality assurance.
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gyrospazjohn said:
What you SHOULD do is return the phone to Sprint and get it back to it's rightful owner. You can call the police on the person who sold you the stolen property and go after them for your money. It's wrong of you to keep something that you know isn't yours.
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Only problem there is the seller can always play stupid and say he bought the phone from someone and was not aware it was stolen.
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When it boils down to it, OP is now is possession of stolen property, which is a crime.
Go to the police or sprint and give the phone up. You can try to go to the police and take the seller to court. But is that time and effort really worth $400?
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Speedin07si said:
When it boils down to it, OP is now is possession of stolen property, which is a crime.
Go to the police or sprint and give the phone up. You can try to go to the police and take the seller to court. But is that time and effort really worth $400?
Sent from a planet far far away.
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OP, you said you couldn't afford to lose $400, I'm betting the real owner of the phone feels the same way. Do the right thing.
gyrospazjohn said:
OP, you said you couldn't afford to lose $400, I'm betting the real owner of the phone feels the same way. Do the right thing.
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Most likely, real owner is covered by insurance, but still it does not matter. I would be glad if someone would return my stolen phone, so I will do the same.. I hope I will get my money back.
Thanks guys
Speedin07si said:
When it boils down to it, OP is now is possession of stolen property, which is a crime.
Go to the police or sprint and give the phone up. You can try to go to the police and take the seller to court. But is that time and effort really worth $400?
Sent from a planet far far away.
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It wouldn't be like that. He just needs to go to the police. Sprint won't refund any money. If he goes to the police, they will figure everything out, and he will get his money back and likely not even have to go to court. Police have access to digital proof via messages or texts or various other things and can easily get it done.
Legally what happened would fall under fraud and robbery. As the item was stated as genuine and non stolen and in working order, and it happens to be stolen and not in activate able condition, that is fraud due to lying about the product, then he took your money knowingly for a broken product and getting away with money as if it was a clean esn. Ignore sprint, go straight to the police. Your money will be recovered and the phone returned to the right person. If it was him saying it was stolen, after the product was sold, then likely he will get the boot from sprint
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paata01 said:
Hey guys,
I need your help. I bought of Craigslist and it was stolen.
I am always cautious, so before buying I requested ESN number from seller and called sprint to check phone, some women answered me and said Phone had no problem and I could go ahead and buy with sellers ask price. So I went to that buy and paid 400$. Later that day I called sprint again to double check, cuz phone was without box, after second attempt guy from Sprint that it was reported.
What should I do. Probably I don't have chance to prove that I bought it honestly. But as every carrier service records customer call, I can prove them that they gave me false information. I thought that owner could report it during that two owner difference between first call and second call but chance of that is very low
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ACTUALLY THIS PERSON YOU BOUGHT IT FROM WAS A TOTAL BUTT.... I GUARANTEE HE / SHE GOT CASH IN HAND THEY CALLED AND REPORTED IT STOLEN I HONESTLY WOULD BET $50 THATS WHAT THEY DID ONLY BAD THING HAVING A GSM PHONE KINDA MISS HAVING A SIM CARD
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otterboxfan4l said:
ACTUALLY THIS PERSON YOU BOUGHT IT FROM WAS A TOTAL BUTT.... I GUARANTEE HE / SHE GOT CASH IN HAND THEY CALLED AND REPORTED IT STOLEN I HONESTLY WOULD BET $50 THATS WHAT THEY DID ONLY BAD THING HAVING A GSM PHONE KINDA MISS HAVING A SIM CARD
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HOLY CRAP CAPITAL LETTERS BATMAN! haha
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Guys. I had that same thing happen to me. Got it off CL, turned out to be stolen.
Typed ##786# to get the number of the previous owner, because when tried calling the guy who sold i to me, number was unresponsive.
So, when i called the real owner she said phone was stolen, i was not smart to call from a blocked numer, but from my cell, so she had all my information and googled me threatening to turn me in for stealing.
I decided to beat her to it, and handed it over to the cops. She then called me mltiple times threatening, to which i replied i no longer had the phone.
Interesting fact, when the cop took the phone, he ran some check and did not find to be tolen, only sprint knew it was stolen, so unless i would have give him her cell, the phone would have probably sat around. They are not as sufisticated as we thing, this is not FBI or CIA, just some cop.
If u return to the police, do the ##786# and call the previous owner to tell them the stoy, otherwise dont waste your time, it took me 3 hrs waiting for cops at the police station to only hear phone is not stolen.
ReapersDeath said:
It wouldn't be like that. He just needs to go to the police. Sprint won't refund any money. If he goes to the police, they will figure everything out, and he will get his money back and likely not even have to go to court. Police have access to digital proof via messages or texts or various other things and can easily get it done.
Legally what happened would fall under fraud and robbery. As the item was stated as genuine and non stolen and in working order, and it happens to be stolen and not in activate able condition, that is fraud due to lying about the product, then he took your money knowingly for a broken product and getting away with money as if it was a clean esn. Ignore sprint, go straight to the police. Your money will be recovered and the phone returned to the right person. If it was him saying it was stolen, after the product was sold, then likely he will get the boot from sprint
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Police don't have any type of access to any digital records and "various other things" you speak of.
Once in court, the judge would have to issue a subpoena. Once issued, Sprint has a legal department that can release certain digital items.
When you print emails, they can be falsified. I honestly don't think cops care for you buying stolen goods as CL is at your own liability. No one is responsible for it but yourself.
I like how if you don't know an answer, people make stuff or voice how they think the world should work.
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Police don't have any type of access to any digital records and "various other things" you speak of.
Once in court, the judge would have to issue a subpoena. Once issued, Sprint has a legal department that can release certain digital items.
When you print emails, they can be falsified. I honestly don't think cops care for you buying stolen goods as CL is at your own liability. No one is responsible for it but yourself.
I like how if you don't know an answer, people make stuff or voice how they think the world should work.
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My whole family is police.. They deal with Craigs list stuff constantly. Most of the time they report results in the person getting their money back and the person who sold the stolen item gets dealt with whichever way they choose to,
Your not getting your money back unless you sell that phone to someone else. If you do that I highly doubt you get the full 400 but at least you get something back. It ain't right but hell I rather take that chance then waiting to take the person that sold you the phone to court . You won't win that case unless you signed a contract or have a receipt. These phones seriously need sim cards like T-Mobile and at&t and the rest of the world and you wouldn't have this problem. Whoever does this to somebody should seriously get a ass kicking, reading this pissed me off. The original owner of that phone sounds like the same person that sold it to you. He got the money then reported it stolen . Good luck on getting your money back but next time just add another line to your service and avoid the hassle.
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Yeah I got my S3 from Craigslist in December for $300. I never bought a phone like this before but meeting at Sprint seemed like a no brainer ( and a deal breaker if they won't meet there) Seller had no problem meeting meand as soon as the Sprint rep activated the phone and I made a call on it, I handed her the money. Awesome deal considering the phone was only 2 days old, like brand new, in the box with accessories.
I got lucky that this girl didn't like the S3, and wanted her iphone back
But for the op. Hopefully you communicated with the seller by text. That's a record of the communications you can show the cops when you tell them what happened.
You should have used xda's new market place
Swappa
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If u can help me please pm me
I called tmobile and ask politely and said the right answers and they unblocked my imei
What were the right answers? I bought one off the craigs that stopped working a month later. Had to sell it on ebay and broke even.
pcm2a said:
What were the right answers? I bought one off the craigs that stopped working a month later. Had to sell it on ebay and broke even.
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Right answer? Perhaps giving his credit card number to pay off device outstanding amount.
sixk said:
I called tmobile and ask politely and said the right answers and they unblocked my imei
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How did that work? I bought my Note 3 on Swappa, and after it was blocked, T-Mobile basically told me to go suck a duck. They wouldn't give me any info, except to tell me what I already knew (that the phone was blocked). They wouldn't tell me how much was owed either.
But please tell us what you said. There are many people who have been scammed and would like to be able to get their device unblocked.
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If u can help me please pm me
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I went through something very similar, except Swappa, not Craigslist. Is the phone just blocked for non-payment of EIP, or is it reported stolen and blacklisted? That might affect your options.
You have a couple of choices, none of which are ideal.
1. Sell the phone on Ebay for a loss. If you sell it internationally, you might be better off since non-US buyers wouldn't care about it being blocked on T-Mobile.
2. Do what I did. Unlock the device (use Chainfire or something similar) and go to another carrier. I ended up going to Straight Talk (AT&T). All in all, it cost me about $10 to unlock and buy the SIM card. I lost my favorite T-Mobile plan, and now pay more for less data (I cry silently each night), but at least your phone will be usable again.
Hope that helps.
Sorry if I am a noob about this but can someone share some light what is happening exactly? I don't want to fall in this category.
People sell their phones to the customer (via Craigslist or Swappa) and the seller does not pay it off which causes T-Mobile to blacklist them?
Try use region unlock that might help you
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Pedro2NR said:
Sorry if I am a noob about this but can someone share some light what is happening exactly? I don't want to fall in this category.
People sell their phones to the customer (via Craigslist or Swappa) and the seller does not pay it off which causes T-Mobile to blacklist them?
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I think there has been at least one instance in which the phone seemed to have been reported as lost or stolen via insurance. That's based on a phone which was supposedly not on EIP being blacklisted by Tmo. Can't find the thread right now, so that's based entirely on vague recollection.
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Pedro2NR said:
Sorry if I am a noob about this but can someone share some light what is happening exactly? I don't want to fall in this category.
People sell their phones to the customer (via Craigslist or Swappa) and the seller does not pay it off which causes T-Mobile to blacklist them?
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Pretty much. Most likely these people are getting their T-mo service cut off for non-payment and since the phone still has a balance, the IMEI gets blacklisted. Shady seller sells it anyway. Poor buyer gets home, finds out its blocked, and has very little recourse especially if it was a CL deal. People also frequently steal phones and try to sell them as well. I work as a phone tester for a popular "sell us your phone!" service that has commercials all over TV right now, and I see TONS of stolen phones. I open the package, turn it on, see the "you have entered the wrong pin too many times, phone locked" screen, and then the ESN/IMEI comes up blacklisted.
Bottom line- people are terrible and will think nothing of scamming you if they can make a quick buck. Trust no one. I won't buy high-end electronics anywhere but a brick & mortar store or a reputable online dealer who guarantees their products. Saving a couple hundred bucks is not worth the risk of getting scammed.
T-mobile has the best customer-service I've ever talked to. On the phone that is
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Right answer = lies
Im not sure if its the right place to say this.
My N3 was paid off
what I told them was I bought this phone off my girlfriend who wanted to stick with an iphone.
And while she changed back to her iphone there must have been a mistake which blocked the phone.
and after about an hour they said they would review this and call me back... but never got a call back.
So I called back a week later and talked to another person and asked about my phone's status and she told it was not blocked anymore.
Hope that helps.
sixk said:
Right answer = lies
Im not sure if its the right place to say this.
My N3 was paid off
what I told them was I bought this phone off my girlfriend who wanted to stick with an iphone.
And while she changed back to her iphone there must have been a mistake which blocked the phone.
and after about an hour they said they would review this and call me back... but never got a call back.
So I called back a week later and talked to another person and asked about my phone's status and she told it was not blocked anymore.
Hope that helps.
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Sounds so easy. I am assuming you bought the N3 used from a woman at least?
Was actually a guy.
everything was good and was easy to contact but after i bought it he turned off the phone and never heard from him again.
And yea it was craigslist I bought it from.
sixk said:
Was actually a guy.
everything was good and was easy to contact but after i bought it he turned off the phone and never heard from him again.
And yea it was craigslist I bought it from.
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So you basically called T Mobile up and explained you bought this from your girlfriend and get angry and after splitting up black listed the phone or to that effect?
I had an issue like this with my note 3, i purchased it back around October 15 off swappa, then 2 months and about 3 days later my phone stopped working, i looked up the imei and it said it was stolen, conveniently just 3 days too late to file a claim with paypal, I called up tmobile, told them I purchased the phone used, and the date i had started using the phone on their service and said it was now saying it was stolen more than 2 months after this and the person told me they were going to unblock the phone for me, and it would take about 24 hours, it actually took closer to 48 hours but they did unblock it and I've had no problems since.
this is why you do trades at a t-mobile store to verify that it works.
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this is why you do trades at a t-mobile store to verify that it works.
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That only helps if you are SURE to ask the rep to verify nothing is owed........a simple imei scan just states that at the moment it's not flagged. ....had this happen. ..met seller at tmobile. ..rep scanned said it was good to go....literally as I started to hand the money to the dude he mentioned that he owed $500 but had arranged to make payments and that no way he would let his credit get messed up because of it.....I said..."can't do it" and ended up just getting a brand new one from tmobile the next day......glad to not have to deal with the nightmare....
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That only helps if you are SURE to ask the rep to verify nothing is owed........a simple imei scan just states that at the moment it's not flagged. ....had this happen. ..met seller at tmobile. ..rep scanned said it was good to go....literally as I started to hand the money to the dude he mentioned that he owed $500 but had arranged to make payments and that no way he would let his credit get messed up because of it.....I said..."can't do it" and ended up just getting a brand new one from tmobile the next day......glad to not have to deal with the nightmare....
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Oh yeah and the rep had to look up more info to see that money was owed......the guy had left tmobile but his billing hadn't cycled yet so to anyone checking it all seemed legit....be careful guys....even to this day I see Craigslist postings and when you ask if they will meet at store to confirm no money owed...no response. ....use that as a litmus test if you must dabble
you can ask the t mob rep to check it. they arent restricted at doing that with the owner there, you just have to be polite and get the right person.
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you can ask the t mob rep to check it. they arent restricted at doing that with the owner there, you just have to be polite and get the right person.
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What I'm trying to point out is that generally the question is whether the imei is clean.....the "Yes" answer is not a guarantee at all....it may take tmobile 30 days to realize non - payment before it gets flagged....just make sure to also ask whether all handset fees have been payed off as well as imei status.
well basically this is what happens in craigslist, and very rarely on ebay,....
Someone sells there phone, then they report is lost or stolen, then they probably receive another at a cost of $150 pr $175 for a replacement phone.
If you buy this on ebay, call ebay up a tell them to look at the seller of this phone, they will see that it was sold by the seller claiming this imei is in good standards, they should reimburse you... or paypal....
in craigslist you can make sure you print out the add, keep it in a safe place, so when they sell you the phone and you get scammed, try going to the police and let them know you purchased this, they can probably trace everything back to the seller, and probably arrest them, if they claim a good imei and then they have reported it stolen. to receive another phone from the insurance company.
because when someone reports it stolen and does an insurance job, they have to usually get a police report number, then they have to give Assurance or Assurant (insurance company for the cell phones) the police report number then the insurance company... now if they falsified information to the police they can get in trouble. this will really work for the people that sell there phone to do an insurance job. they sell their phone, call the insurance company and get another one.
Hello. trying to relock bootloader to return to bestbuy and for the life of me I cannot get the phone into fastboot with adb. I have USB Debugging on, the computer authorized through the phone, but fastboot devices doesn't do anything. I can't even flash a factory image. I can even get it to show up with adb devices but that's all I can do. I have all the drivers installed and am plugging into the back of the windows 10 computer and also tried two different cables. I'm not sure what to try next. I also cannot get it to go into fastboot with power and vol+. Phone works great otherwise. Nothing wrong with it.
You're typing adb reboot-bootloader? And that doesn't do anything?
Okay I'm an idiot. That was the problem. I was typing in fastboot devices. Still weird how the factory image wouldn't send it to bootloader.
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Okay I'm an idiot. That was the problem. I was typing in fastboot devices. Still weird how the factory image wouldn't send it to bootloader.
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Are you getting a replacement or simply returning? Curious because I think I might be taking mine back. To many issues. Part of me wants to get another one but if it comes with 7.1.1 and I can't unlock bootloader I'd return for good anyways and skip this phone.
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Are you getting a replacement or simply returning? Curious because I think I might be taking mine back. To many issues. Part of me wants to get another one but if it comes with 7.1.1 and I can't unlock bootloader I'd return for good anyways and skip this phone.
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I just got a new one from best buy last week for my wife. Hers came with the October build on it.
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Are you getting a replacement or simply returning? Curious because I think I might be taking mine back. To many issues. Part of me wants to get another one but if it comes with 7.1.1 and I can't unlock bootloader I'd return for good anyways and skip this phone.
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I'm going to try to return because I don't like the locked bootloader and I also think the Pixel XL is too big. It's hard to use with one hand and I'm afraid I'm going to drop it. I'm on my Note 3 until my Pixel comes in from google, but I actually don't mind the Note 3 since the bootloader is now unlocked for Verizon. There's a lot of good roms out now. I don't know if I can step back to the Note 3 camera from the Pixel and 6P before....
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I just got a new one from best buy last week for my wife. Hers came with the October build on it.
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Haven't returned anything to best but before what did you tell them? Did you have to show them the issue? Reason I ask is because I was in there black Friday and the 2 people in the mobile department were very rude to the point where I got in an argument with them and had to talk to the manager. I just wanna at least try getting a new one before returning for good. Was there a restocking fee or anything
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Haven't returned anything to best but before what did you tell them? Did you have to show them the issue? Reason I ask is because I was in there black Friday and the 2 people in the mobile department were very rude to the point where I got in an argument with them and had to talk to the manager. I just wanna at least try getting a new one before returning for good. Was there a restocking fee or anything
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I'm about to head there now. I'll update when I get back. I have a scuff on the phone so I hope they let me return.
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I'm about to head there now. I'll update when I get back. I have a scuff on the phone so I hope they let me return.
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Good luck! Keep me posted I'm gonna head there tomorrow. Not even sure if they have any in stock. I don't know if they are gonna make me show them the issues or tell me to call Google support first.. or if they will simply swap it out.
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Crap I just realized I bought mine online..
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Haven't returned anything to best but before what did you tell them? Did you have to show them the issue? Reason I ask is because I was in there black Friday and the 2 people in the mobile department were very rude to the point where I got in an argument with them and had to talk to the manager. I just wanna at least try getting a new one before returning for good. Was there a restocking fee or anything
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Hers was a new one that I ordered. But I've returned phones to them a bunch of times with no issues. I replaced my wife's old 6p twice at best buy. They just gave me a new one off the shelf both times.
They would not return it because it was outside of the 14 day return policy. Their return policy with the holiday season is ambiguous but I'm stuck with it now. Maybe I'll try to sell on swappa and get a Pixel or go back to my Note 3.
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Haven't returned anything to best but before what did you tell them? Did you have to show them the issue? Reason I ask is because I was in there black Friday and the 2 people in the mobile department were very rude to the point where I got in an argument with them and had to talk to the manager. I just wanna at least try getting a new one before returning for good. Was there a restocking fee or anything
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So I managed to return it today. I brought in the return policy from online which shows off contract phones are under the holiday return policy. There might be a $35 restocking fee though. I had someone more competent today than last night.
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So I managed to return it today. I brought in the return policy from online which shows off contract phones are under the holiday return policy. There might be a $35 restocking fee though. I had someone more competent today than last night.
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I actually got really lucky yesterday. I looked online and the only best buy that had them in stock was an hour and 10 minutes away from me. I called customer service to confirm. So then I wanted to talk to someone IN the actual store before driving there and confirm the return process and also make sure it was there. Figured out that if you call your local best buys number it's nearly impossible to get someone from that actual store and not customer service. I pretended to have a question for the Geek squad and once I got them on the line asked for the mobile department.
So I talked with them and confirmed they had it..told him what was happening with mine and he said it was no problem and he will set one aside for me. He mentioned something about "processing the return" so I wanted to clarify with him what was gonna happen. Best buys $10 a month deal is different than Verizon's. I was worried that if he processed my return and did the purchase from scratch that it might somehow mess this loop hole up and I'd be stuck with Verizon's 2 year bill credits. Thankfully this guy was familiar with EXACTLY what I was talking about. He said they don't know how it is different than Verizon's deal but said he is totally aware of it. So he said he would talk with someone about the exchange process and call me back. Over an hour later I had to call them again. He told me I had two options and he said the first option is something they aren't really supposed to do. He told me they would literally just swap them out and not process any kind of return/exchange with Verizon. He said the only downside to this would be if I ever wanted to trade the phone into Verizon I wouldn't be able to because the one on my DPP would be the original IMEI not the replacements' IMEI. Second option was to process a return and set it all up from scratch. He said we would then have to call Verizon to fix the pricing and get me the $10 deal and that it most likely would be with Verizon's bill credits though.
Naturally I jumped on the first option and told him I'd be right there. Then I asked if I HAD to activate the replacement there and he said "yea that's normally how they have to do it". I then explaied to him how I can't unlock the bootloader if it installs the software update during setup so I need to take the SIM out and skip the setup so I could unlock with my computer at home. Again he knew exactly what I was taking about and said he would ask the other guy again and call me back. 10 minutes later he called back and said "yea we can do that it won't be a problem" so I told him I'd head up there right then.
So I get there and it was as simple as handing him my box (they didn't even look it in).. he did some kind of magic on his computer.. as he was doing this I opened the new one..took out the SIM and skipped through the setup..enabled developer options and turned off automatic updates.. then he gave me a receipt and that was it!
What started out as a confusing nightmare because no stores had them in stock so I was worried about a replacement shipping with the new software.. ended up working out easier and better than I could have imagined.
I got so LUCKY that I dealt with the person I did at that Best Buy becasue the people at my best buy would have been clueless and not done anything like this for me.
Phone is already unlocked and updated now
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I actually got really lucky yesterday. I looked online and the only best buy that had them in stock was an hour and 10 minutes away from me. I called customer service to confirm. So then I wanted to talk to someone IN the actual store before driving there and confirm the return process and also make sure it was there. Figured out that if you call your local best buys number it's nearly impossible to get someone from that actual store and not customer service. I pretended to have a question for the Geek squad and once I got them on the line asked for the mobile department.
So I talked with them and confirmed they had it..told him what was happening with mine and he said it was no problem and he will set one aside for me. He mentioned something about "processing the return" so I wanted to clarify with him what was gonna happen. Best buys $10 a month deal is different than Verizon's. I was worried that if he processed my return and did the purchase from scratch that it might somehow mess this loop hole up and I'd be stuck with Verizon's 2 year bill credits. Thankfully this guy was familiar with EXACTLY what I was talking about. He said they don't know how it is different than Verizon's deal but said he is totally aware of it. So he said he would talk with someone about the exchange process and call me back. Over an hour later I had to call them again. He told me I had two options and he said the first option is something they aren't really supposed to do. He told me they would literally just swap them out and not process any kind of return/exchange with Verizon. He said the only downside to this would be if I ever wanted to trade the phone into Verizon I wouldn't be able to because the one on my DPP would be the original IMEI not the replacements' IMEI. Second option was to process a return and set it all up from scratch. He said we would then have to call Verizon to fix the pricing and get me the $10 deal and that it most likely would be with Verizon's bill credits though.
Naturally I jumped on the first option and told him I'd be right there. Then I asked if I HAD to activate the replacement there and he said "yea that's normally how they have to do it". I then explaied to him how I can't unlock the bootloader if it installs the software update during setup so I need to take the SIM out and skip the setup so I could unlock with my computer at home. Again he knew exactly what I was taking about and said he would ask the other guy again and call me back. 10 minutes later he called back and said "yea we can do that it won't be a problem" so I told him I'd head up there right then.
So I get there and it was as simple as handing him my box (they didn't even look it in).. he did some kind of magic on his computer.. as he was doing this I opened the new one..took out the SIM and skipped through the setup..enabled developer options and turned off automatic updates.. then he gave me a receipt and that was it!
What started out as a confusing nightmare because no stores had them in stock so I was worried about a replacement shipping with the new software.. ended up working out easier and better than I could have imagined.
I got so LUCKY that I dealt with the person I did at that Best Buy becasue the people at my best buy would have been clueless and not done anything like this for me.
Phone is already unlocked and updated now
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Glad it worked out. Expecting my Google Store Pixel to come in Monday.
So I bought a phone that was working until today and all of the sudden it is a reported stolen phone and I can't get in touch with the seller. It was a Verizon Pixel 2 xl. I was using it on MetroPCS successfully until today. Can this be unlocked somehow?
I think you better report to the police. Possession of stolen property is a crime
Unless it belonged to the seller and he didn't pay it off..... Thanks for the lack of help.
Can you go to a Verizon or Metropcs store to check it out...
You are out of luck unless you can straighten it out with Verizon.
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So I bought a phone that was working until today and all of the sudden it is a reported stolen phone and I can't get in touch with the seller. It was a Verizon Pixel 2 xl. I was using it on MetroPCS successfully until today. Can this be unlocked somehow?
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If Seller will not immediately refund the purchase, the Only thing to do with a stolen phone is tell local police the entire story about Seller.
You can't get a stolen phone to function once blacklisted. If you could find a shady character to "flash" something, you would sooner or later be found out.
Not worth it.
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If Seller will not immediately refund the purchase, the Only thing to do with a stolen phone is tell local police the entire story about Seller.
You can't get a stolen phone to function once blacklisted. If you could find a shady character to "flash" something, you would sooner or later be found out.
Not worth it.
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I know this doesn't help now, but you have to keep it in mind about a deal that is too good to be true -- it usually isn't.
But let me ask you this; how exactly do you know that its been reported stolen? If you're trying unsuccessfully to connect a stolen phone to a network using your sim card, that would alert your service provider to the fact that you have a stolen phone, and so I would suspect that you can expect the police to knock on your door shortly.
Ok, so let's get the 800-lb gorilla out of the way here. The phone has been blacklisted. Why has it been blacklisted? Either the seller cancelled their service and refused to pay the ETF fee, or the device was stolen. Regardless of why, both options lead to the same end result: an unusable device.
If the device is blacklisted due to the seller refusing to pay the ETF, the only way to resolve the issue is to pay the ETF fee.
If the device is blacklisted due to being stolen, nothing will resolve the issue. The P2XL would need to be sold, either as a parts device, or to a buyer out of the country.
Unlocking a device will not help here, and in the case of Verizon is moot: Verizon does not SIM lock their devices. A few years ago it was possible to switch carriers and get around the blacklist, but that has changed. The carriers all access the same blacklist, and a device blacklisted on one carrier is blacklisted on all of them. The one loophole in the blacklist is if the device is transported outside of North America. The blacklist in the US is not used worldwide, and thus devices outside of the country will work.
Now that we've covered the issue of blacklisting, let's touch on the theft issue. It's very unlikely that Verizon is going to send anyone to retrieve the device. Even though the device costs a fair amount of cash, the carriers cannot pinpoint exactly where the device is, except to note that it's using a specific cell tower. By blacklisting the device they have rendered it unusable and have already written it off.
if you bought it via swappa or something like that you can file a claim against the user
if via craigslist or in person, you have no real recourse
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I know this doesn't help now, but you have to keep it in mind about a deal that is too good to be true -- it usually isn't.
But let me ask you this; how exactly do you know that its been reported stolen? If you're trying unsuccessfully to connect a stolen phone to a network using your sim card, that would alert your service provider to the fact that you have a stolen phone, and so I would suspect that you can expect the police to knock on your door shortly.
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It worked yesterday when i first added it to my ascot. Today, this afternoon it stopped working and when i checked the IMEI, it was reported lost or stolen. It wasn't yesterday when I checked it. Seller is MIA. Can I order a motherboard or something for it that will fix the issue?
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It worked yesterday when i first added it to my ascot. Today, this afternoon it stopped working and when i checked the IMEI, it was reported lost or stolen. It wasn't yesterday when I checked it. Seller is MIA. Can I order a motherboard or something for it that will fix the issue?
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No, if it is listed as stolen you are done. You can give it to the cops, and the info you have on the seller if you want.
Couple of concerns here.
If I give up the phone, I am out both my money, and the phone. In which case the police will literally do nothing. The phones already been written off and likely replaced.
If I keep it, I have seen multiple claims of company's that can clear a bad IMEI for a fee.
However, I thought that my phone being a Verizon variant, just wouldn't work on Verizon but would work on gsm still? What ever happened to that?
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Couple of concerns here.
If I give up the phone, I am out both my money, and the phone. In which case the police will literally do nothing. The phones already been written off and likely replaced.
If I keep it, I have seen multiple claims of company's that can clear a bad IMEI for a fee.
However, I thought that my phone being a Verizon variant, just wouldn't work on Verizon but would work on gsm still? What ever happened to that?
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It was explained for you in an earlier post. YOUR PHONE WILL NOT WORK IN THE USA BECAUSE ALL USA CARRIERS USE THE SAME BLACKLIST. YOU WOULD HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY OR FIND SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY TO PURCHASE IT OFF OF YOU.
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It was explained for you in an earlier post. YOUR PHONE WILL NOT WORK IN THE USA BECAUSE ALL USA CARRIERS USE THE SAME BLACKLIST. YOU WOULD HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY OR FIND SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY TO PURCHASE IT OFF OF YOU.
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Oh ok, well now that you say it in all caps lock, it makes sense.......
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Oh ok, well now that you say it in all caps lock, it makes sense.......
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Well you didn't understand when someone typed it normally so...
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Well you didn't understand when someone typed it normally so...
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Right but it still doesn't explain if you're just saying that because it's unethical, or actually impossible. Because like I said there's companies out there with decent reviews that claim they can fix this issue....
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Right but it still doesn't explain if you're just saying that because it's unethical, or actually impossible. Because like I said there's companies out there with decent reviews that claim they can fix this issue....
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I don't know anything about bypassing IMEI bans, but I would *assume* that there's some sort of rule on XDA about discussing things of that nature.
This is simple. Be sure you have all your info together about the seller. Print out all correspondences, screen shot and print out any communications (texts, call logs, etc), write down all of the phones info clearly (IMEI, model, etc, etc). Bring that paperwork to the police (don't bring the phone at this time) and file a report. Take said report and contact Google. Email them all of the info including the police report. Wait to hear from Google. Chances are good they will offer some form of assistance, possibly an offer to send in the phone for full reformatting if no one has made claim to that phones IMEI. They may offer a discount on another device. They may tell you to go pound sand. Either way, that's your best/only option at this point.
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Right but it still doesn't explain if you're just saying that because it's unethical, or actually impossible. Because like I said there's companies out there with decent reviews that claim they can fix this issue....
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You are now venturing into territory that is very much frowned upon by XDA moderators. Not giving you a hard time, just a heads up.
I agree, if anyone has info please pm me. Feel free to close the thread.
Two weeks ago I found a TMO G960U laying on the sidewalk. I brought it home, charged it and waited for someone to call it so I could give it back. Well no one ever called so i guess its ok to try to use it. Its not blacklisted, it is however blocked on TMO. But id be using it on att.
Its sim locked and it also has FRP on. Its running tmo december security patch
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themow said:
Two weeks ago I found a TMO G960U laying on the sidewalk. I brought it home, charged it and waited for someone to call it so I could give it back. Well no one ever called so i guess its ok to try to use it. Its not blacklisted, it is however blocked on TMO. But id be using it on att.
Its sim locked and it also has FRP on. Its running tmo december security patch
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so u literally "found" a phone and made minimal attempt to return it to its rightful owner (you could try contacting the carrier) that you claim isnt blacklisted but yet it doesnt work on its originsl carrier (sounds blacklisted to me) as well as it has frp on which is there for exactly this reason and you want someone to help disable the security and unlock it so you can use it urself?
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Yep I found it. And there is a difference between blocked and blacklisted.
I've been a member here for 8 years. I'd use a throw away account if I was doing anything shady.
Move along troll
Wow...did I just read this correctly? You actually called Elliwigy a troll? You must be new to XDA....do the right thing and take the phone back to Tmobile.
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Wow...did I just read this correctly? You actually called Elliwigy a troll? You must be new to XDA....do the right thing and take the phone back to Tmobile.
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haha and it gets better, hes now saying when he does shady stuff he just makes a fake account to do it lol
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so u literally "found" a phone and made minimal attempt to return it to its rightful owner (you could try contacting the carrier) that you claim isnt blacklisted but yet it doesnt work on its originsl carrier (sounds blacklisted to me) as well as it has frp on which is there for exactly this reason and you want someone to help disable the security and unlock it so you can use it urself?
awesome sauce
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there is a major difference between blacklisted and carrier locked. i agree that the OP should call TMO and give them the IMEI so that they can then reach out to the rightful owner. From there, they would have to turn it into the police to allow reclamation to occur within the limits of the law. After the required time allotted by local laws elapses, and the phone is then returned to the finder, if not the original owner, it can then be considered legally owned and therefore unlockable etc etc etc. The police station will issue paperwork showing that it has been released to the person who turned it in and that would satiate me regarding offering help to unlock. Short of that, we will not help the OP do anything with this phone.
@themow we can definitely offer assistance in cases like these, but XDA does not support usage of phones when ownership is a grey area. There are laws in every state regarding things like this, and we do not condone actions that bypass said laws
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Yep I found it. And there is a difference between blocked and blacklisted.
I've been a member here for 8 years. I'd use a throw away account if I was doing anything shady.
Move along troll
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Unsure how your local laws work there are but here if you hand things in and the owner doesn't claim them in three months they become your legit property.
Once I found a newish bike and contacted the shop with the serial number to look up who bought it.
Shop was hopeless, took it to the police station, gave them shop details.
To my dismay 3 months later cops called saying come get it.
Anyway that's what I'd do, at least then your conscience would be free.
Ended up giving the bike to some addict (already got 4 bikes) but was bummed the shop didn't record serial numbers.
If you decide not to return it the procedure is to flash it using Odin but last June Samsung implemented something called KnoxGuard which can remotely lock misplaced devices (like iPhones).
I'm sure you've heard about people tracking devices & getting the law involved, as unlikely as that may be it could contain pictures priceless to the owner.
Good luck
I found a phone in a park. I tried charging in order to see if any owner info was available. It's been a while, but I think it wouldn't power up.
It was a Verizon phone, so I turned it into a Verizon store. I figured the carrier could find to whom it belonged.
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I found a phone in a park. I tried charging in order to see if any owner info was available. It's been a while, but I think it wouldn't power up.
It was a Verizon phone, so I turned it into a Verizon store. I figured the carrier could find to whom it belonged.
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you should have turned it in to a Sprint store, just to mess with them totally kidding, what you did was spot on. Youll never be able to claim ownership of the phone that way, but if you had no want in owning it anyways, then que ser a ser a?
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you should have turned it in to a Sprint store, just to mess with them totally kidding, what you did was spot on. Youll never be able to claim ownership of the phone that way, but if you had no want in owning it anyways, then que ser a ser a?
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Yeah, I think it was a Samsung. I just knew it wasn't mine and someone would be wanting their phone back. I would hope someone would do the same if they found mine.
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Yeah, I think it was a Samsung. I just knew it wasn't mine and someone would be wanting their phone back. I would hope someone would do the same if they found mine.
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I think im safe saying this on behalf of everyone who has ever lost a phone and specifically from those of us at XDA, mods or not, thank you. Im the kind of guy who will stop my car and help people push a stalled vehicle, and i bet you are too. Just 2 weeks ago, i stopped and helped a lady put gas from a gas can into her vehicle because she couldnt get the spring loaded top to work in her gas filler spout. I ended up with gas on my hands and my next stop was the grocery store to buy vegetables for a soup i was planning for dinner. Having gas on your hands makes veggie shopping far less pleasurable than without LoL
anyways, actions like this are appreciated. Thank you again
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I think im safe saying this on behalf of everyone who has ever lost a phone and specifically from those of us at XDA, mods or not, thank you. Im the kind of guy who will stop my car and help people push a stalled vehicle, and i bet you are too. Just 2 weeks ago, i stopped and helped a lady put gas from a gas can into her vehicle because she couldnt get the spring loaded top to work in her gas filler spout. I ended up with gas on my hands and my next stop was the grocery store to buy vegetables for a soup i was planning for dinner. Having gas on your hands makes veggie shopping far less pleasurable than without LoL
anyways, actions like this are appreciated. Thank you again
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I agree! The Golden Rule applies in every facet of life! :good:
Holy Crap "themow" ive been looking for that phone for months
can you please send it back to me