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[Q] Internal storage

Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance

Your wildfire could install what....20-40 apps before getting a low storage warning?
Install an SD card, all your apps go to internal, (except app data...ie games) and your SD card is your "user storage".
Unless you install over 200 apps, most of them large, you will never get a low storage warning on the One V and that is a good thing.
When you want to upgrade to a new SD card, just copy the contents over to your new one, install and go........that simple.
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Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage

Compizfox said:
Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance
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Please free ur internal memory as free as possible....only keep frequently used apps in it, we have 4GB internal memory of which 1GB is available to us...in es file explorer click on favorites and there will be a phone icon.if u want to paste something not ur internal storage as writable through settings
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Compizfox said:
Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage
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Ahhh, you mean that 95 or so mb of user storage?
1. No, you cannot move apps there
2. Really, not alot of place for music, some photos sure, just select internal storage in the camera app.
The 95 mb or so HTC left us is basically a joke, if youx have a suitable sd card (16gb ones are twenty bucks or less) I really sugest using that and consider that small space as a buffer if your card is removed and you want to suddenly snap a photo......or whatever.
In the future, when we have s-off and can repartion the nand that tiny space will be irrelevant.
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I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.

Compizfox said:
I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.
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No problems man, I'll start at the beginning.
Go to settings > storage, you will see:
Internal storage, total space 0.94GB...........it will report apps, and available. The two together should add up.
This is where your apps go
Phone storage, total space 95.23MB.........then available (mine is 95.21MB!!!!)
Storage Card, same total space / available.....this depends on what card you have
This is where app data goes, "user storage" ie. photos, videos, music, email attachments, downloads, etc. It will default to using your SD card if installed. If there is no SD card, or you temporally remove it, it will save stuff to your phone storage.
What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
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The "partions" are as listed above. There are some directories that you may not be able to view because you may not have "root access". If you root your phone, you will now have access to view and edit the entire file system (kinda like being an admin on a windows machine). Unless you are an advanced user, this is not really required. Some system files are hidden by default for good reason, change them or move them (or delete them like my Dad on his home computer**#@!) and you can really mess things up in a way you do not realize until later.
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
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Like I said before, the "internal storage" is for apps only, your "user storage" on your phone is only 95.23MB. Not enough for music really, maybe some photos (In the camera app itself under camera setting > storage > you can select storage card or phone storage) but....you are limited to the 95.23MB of space.
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
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Yes, but they obviously will not be able to access any data on the card that is no longer in your phone!!!
It is easy to upgrade your SD card from the one that came with the phone. hook a USB cable to your phone, select "disk drive" from the drop down menu, copy the contents all at once onto the new SD card (if hooked upto your computer as well), power down the phone, swap cards and reboot......boom....more storage!!!
I hope that answered your questions, if not we'll have to talk S-off, hboots, nand partioning etc!!!!
Regards.

Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw

Compizfox said:
Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw
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Yup, you've got it right.
The CWM probably has that option for other devices. The HTC desire, by default (similiar to the wildfire), 512MB nand, approx 105MB for the user (apps, user data, everything!). With s-off, we had scripts in which the ext3 partion of the sd card would be read as part of the "internal" storage, so not all was lost.
But, back on topic, yes just nandroid to your sd card.
Cheers man, glad to hear your enjoying your phone.
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it's because i put the option in..
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Lloir said:
it's because i put the option in..
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Cool, what partion does this option use?
Edit: disregard the question dude, read the dev thread and got ky answer. Good work.
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Android Marshmallow: Format external SD card as internal

Hello there
I formatted my external SD card as internal in Marshmallow (CyanogenMod 13) and I'm able to access it from the device, however when I plug the device into the computer, I can only see the internal storage rather than the external as well. What can I do about this? The reason I am asking is because I took a backup of the External SD Card before I formatted it as internal and I'd like to put everything back (music, pictures, applications, etc.).
Thanks for your time.

TarekElsakka said:
Hello there
I formatted my external SD card as internal in Marshmallow (CyanogenMod 13) and I'm able to access it from the device, however when I plug the device into the computer, I can only see the internal storage rather than the external as well. What can I do about this? The reason I am asking is because I took a backup of the External SD Card before I formatted it as internal and I'd like to put everything back (music, pictures, applications, etc.).
Thanks for your time.
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If I were you I would reformat it back to portable storage because I heard that there can be problems with formatting as internal. Not sure if what I heard is true or not but I would just reformat it back to portable. Then, hopefully it should show up through USB.

JazzieBoi said:
If I were you I would reformat it back to portable storage because I heard that there can be problems with formatting as internal. Not sure if what I heard is true or not but I would just reformat it back to portable. Then, hopefully it should show up through USB.
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@JazzieBoi you're right, using it as part of the internal storage turned out to be too much of a hassle; it's back to portable for me even though it won't allow me to write to it in Titanium Backup and other apps. Thanks for your input.

TarekElsakka said:
@JazzieBoi you're right, using it as part of the internal storage turned out to be too much of a hassle; it's back to portable for me even though it won't allow me to write to it in Titanium Backup and other apps. Thanks for your input.
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Yeah when I store my titanium backup folder on my external with Marshmallow I noticed that when you go into the TB settings and look at the backup folder it says that is isn't writable. Its must be some new permission to deal with the External sdcard on Marshmallow because on Lollipop I never had this problem.

JazzieBoi said:
Yeah when I store my titanium backup folder on my external with Marshmallow I noticed that when you go into the TB settings and look at the backup folder it says that is isn't writable. Its must be some new permission to deal with the External sdcard on Marshmallow because on Lollipop I never had this problem.
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You can fix this by going to Preferences -> Backup Folder Location. At the top of this window there is a "Storage provider" section. Click on this and then change it to "DocumentProvider storage", then find and choose your Titanium Backup folder. This resolved the issue on my LG G4 running Marshmallow and I was able to take my backups.

zook388 said:
You can fix this by going to Preferences -> Backup Folder Location. At the top of this window there is a "Storage provider" section. Click on this and then change it to "DocumentProvider storage", then find and choose your Titanium Backup folder. This resolved the issue on my LG G4 running Marshmallow and I was able to take my backups.
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Yeah man didn't even see this before, thanks

Fulmics 3.7 SD Card problem

please someone help...
my SD card is unusable! it works on my pc, i copy things on it, but when I mount on my phone, it has a weird name (mainly numbers) and appears empty, and when I check it on my pc it's empty too (the storage is still used up)
and i can't copy anything (says it stopped responding or disconnected).
i have to reformat it, but that doesn't fix anything. that issue still occurs

Bastienhere said:
please someone help...
my SD card is unusable! it works on my pc, i copy things on it, but when I mount on my phone, it has a weird name (mainly numbers) and appears empty, and when I check it on my pc it's empty too (the storage is still used up)
and i can't copy anything (says it stopped responding or disconnected).
i have to reformat it, but that doesn't fix anything. that issue still occurs
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how exactly did you reformat it?

6th_Hokage said:
how exactly did you reformat it?
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through my pc. quick format. FAT32
It's too weird.. i think it's the rom. because, now, i can see the SD Card's content when i mount it with a USB adapter to my laptop.

Hi
You need to go into settings on the phone and long press on the SD card and you will be able to format the card to copy to. Do not format as internal.
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Stransky said:
Hi
You need to go into settings on the phone and long press on the SD card and you will be able to format the card to copy to. Do not format as internal.
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I long press where? it doesn't trigger any menu to format

Settings srorage sd card. Long oress on left side and you should get the option to format as portable storage.
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Bastienhere said:
through my pc. quick format. FAT32
It's too weird.. i think it's the rom. because, now, i can see the SD Card's content when i mount it with a USB adapter to my laptop.
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http://download.cnet.com/MiniTool-Partition-Wizard-Free-Edition/3000-2094_4-10962200.html use this tool to partition it here is a guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142844 i'ts for link to sd but you can just use it to format to fat 32

Sprint LG G5 android app Storage has no option to move to External_SD (SD card)?

I have the Sprint LG G5 running ZV5 and I'm having a problem where I can't change the Storage settings for any apps (like Snapchat or GoPro app) to use the external SD card. For example, normally in Settings > Apps > GoPro > Storage, I should be able to click on Storage and move the app and it's storage to the external microSD card (app/data/cache). However with this it shows:
"Storage
631.35 MB used in Internal storage"
With no option to move or use the portable/external SD like it normally does on my other phones.
On my older Sprint LG G4 I can move apps this way to use the microSD card so the internal 32GB doesn't get full (both GoPro and Snapchat fill up gigabytes quickly!). Thanks for any help, maybe I'm missing something simple!
PS. Just wanted to clarify that the SD card does work for photos/movies using the default LG camera app, which is fine. So the microSD card is "working". But I want other video/cam apps like Snapchat, GoPro (with it's 4k videos), and my 3DR solo drone app to use the SD card as these apps generate much larger files! This worked normal on the LG G4 and now I'm stumped with the G5. Thanks for any help.

It is there, just reorganized/hidden. That part that tells you how many mb of internal storage used, is actually a menu button. It looks like an item, not a button, but it is actually clickable. Click it and a storage menu opens, under 'Storage Used' click change and select SD card
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Move app to SD Card not available
PedroDaGr8 said:
It is there, just reorganized/hidden. That part that tells you how many mb of internal storage used, is actually a menu button. It looks like an item, not a button, but it is actually clickable. Click it and a storage menu opens, under 'Storage Used' click change and select SD card
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Hi Pedro, actually that is how I normally would get to it, but it's not working. The screen it takes me to when clicking the Storage used area doesn't have a Move to SD Card option or any reference to where the app is stored (see Screenshots attached). Any idea what's going on here? Are you able to move apps to SD Card? Thanks again!

danboarder said:
Hi Pedro, actually that is how I normally would get to it, but it's not working. The screen it takes me to when clicking the Storage used area doesn't have a Move to SD Card option or any reference to where the app is stored (see Screenshots attached). Any idea what's going on here? Are you able to move apps to SD Card? Thanks again!
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I just tried around three dozen apps and with one exception, the only ones that didn't allow me to move them were system apps and apps that were pre- installed with the device. The one exception is Spotify, I think that is because that app has this setting built into the app itself. Everything else, I could move.
Edit: In fact, just installed Snapchat to test. Sure enough that feature is there.
Which G5 software version are you on (ZV3, ZV4 or ZV5)? I'm on ZV5.
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Wow, thanks! I'm on ZV5. Maybe I need to reformat the microsd card in the phone, I'll try that and see if it works.
EDIT - well, it's still a no go, still the same issue. I took out the card, and on my mac and formatted it as a mac format so the phone would be forced to reformat it. Putting it back in the phone and turning it on, it did pop up with an option to format it. After formatting on the phone there still is no option to Move to SD in the Storage settings (like you have in your screenshot). I'm wondering if I have a dud or if my microSD card is incompatible somehow? Its a fastest I could find Samsung 128gb Pro+. When I get home I'll try a different SD card (I have a Sandisk Extreme Pro 64gb there) and see if that works any better. Thanks for any ideas.

Still a no go
Well the Sandisk Extreme Pro 64gb that worked fine in my other phone (G4) does not work the same in my Sprint LG G5 running the latest update (ZV5). So far I can only save photos/videos to the microSD card, no option to move apps shows up. I did find others that have been experiencing this issue (see this video: "LG G5 cannot save your apps to SD Card" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA9Ix5IVPMI ).
However, with the above reply by @PedroDaGr8 who also has the Sprint LG G5 on ZV5, I have hope that it is possible to move apps to the SD card, and I would like to get to the bottom of this issue of why I can't move any apps to SD! Any ideas of what I can try to further troubleshoot this?

@danboarder I just thought of something. I enabled adoptable storage on my SD card. I have a 128GB SD and I figured it would be good to give the system partition another 32gb. I wonder if this also enabled the move to storage option. I used the command line option that was discovered for the S7 which also works for our phone.
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I used this procedure here:
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
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ADB method for adoptable storage and moving apps to SD card
Hi @PedroDaGr8 thanks, I'll try this. Is root required? (is root even an option yet on this G5?)
PedroDaGr8 said:
@danboarder I just thought of something. I enabled adoptable storage on my SD card. I have a 128GB SD and I figured it would be good to give the system partition another 32gb. I wonder if this also enabled the move to storage option. I used the command line option that was discovered for the S7 which also works for our phone.
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I used this procedure here:
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
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danboarder said:
Hi @PedroDaGr8 thanks, I'll try this. Is root required? (is root even an option yet on this G5?)
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Root is not required nor is it am option yet.
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PedroDaGr8 said:
Root is not required nor is it am option yet.
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@PedroDaGr8 follow up - thanks, it worked! I used the method you linked to using ADB (no root required) and was able to activate adoptable storage, now my Sprint LG G5 can now move apps to SD.

Can't access internal & external storage

I am on 2.20.40.194. I am not able to aceess internal & external storage nither from PC nor from phone.

ketan_naik said:
I am on 2.20.40.194. I am not able to aceess internal & external storage nither from PC nor from phone.
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When did this start? Kind of sounds like a motherboard problem.
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No it is not like that. Though files are there, it is not showing