Hello,
I'am on rom stock, no custom recovery and bootloader locked.
If I root my OP3, will I still receive rom stock updates and will I still install this updates like before ?
Thanks.
No. if u root you wont get updates
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Uh okay. It's embarassing..
In this case how get update ?
doums_ said:
Uh okay. It's embarassing..
In this case how get update ?
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Via incremental updates, flash it through TWRP recovery
And it's the officials updates ?
Yep, download from the oneplus website and flash
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ptoner said:
Yep, download from the oneplus website and flash
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Ok thanks all !
Sorry to hijack the thread.
Can someone tell me whether you can still use Android pay after you root?
Thanks.
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As long as you don't install xposed I think you are OK.
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Thanks for that ptoner
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doums_ said:
Hello,
I'am on rom stock, no custom recovery and bootloader locked.
If I root my OP3, will I still receive rom stock updates and will I still install this updates like before ?
Thanks.
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You have to unlock the bootloader too. Unblocking the bootloader will wipe your device.
As a rule of thumb, I always unlock bootloader on day one of purchasing my devices. (mostly Nexus or OP so far). This way you avoid potentially losing data.
Or u can download systemless xposed which will allow to turn on and off to use Android pay
Bradl79 said:
Or u can download systemless xposed which will allow to turn on and off to use Android pay
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You'll still have to reboot each time to use it
2x4 said:
You'll still have to reboot each time to use it
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What is the problem with Android pay with rooted device ? (I have never used Android pay and I dont know this app)
doums_ said:
What is the problem with Android pay with rooted device ? (I have never used Android pay and I dont know this app)
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With rooted it can work in certain conditions.
With xposed it cannot if it is active
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With rooted it can work in certain conditions.
With xposed it cannot if it is active
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Ok, and wath is the best way for rooting my device, xposed or traditional way (unlock bootloader, install TWRP and flash root apk ?)
doums_ said:
Ok, and wath is the best way for rooting my device, xposed or traditional way (unlock bootloader, install TWRP and flash root apk ?)
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root (access) is obtained via apps like SuperSU
xposed has nothing to do with root access - it is an additional framework allowing for low level modifications (like amplify, etc)
unlocking bootloader is always the first step, from there you can flash supersu (which is NOT just an APK file).
there's a number of threads about it that can explain it better than i.
2x4 said:
root (access) is obtained via apps like SuperSU
xposed has nothing to do with root access - it is an additional framework allowing for low level modifications (like amplify, etc)
unlocking bootloader is always the first step, from there you can flash supersu (which is NOT just an APK file).
there's a number of threads about it that can explain it better than i.
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Ok thanks you. I see the threads in OP3 xda forum.
One more question : is the warrantly lost after rooting ?
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I would like to know if once you fully root your phone and go S-Off can you still use Android pay?
I haven't rooted yet but plan on doing so but just want to be fully aware of what I would lose by rooting. Also outside of Android pay is there anything else you would lose or won't work correctly after root.
Oh and sorry if this has been said before, I at least didn't see quickly anything posted about this...
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Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
nobnut said:
Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
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Prefect, will try that method. Do you know what the difference is with that method compared to others?
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nobnut said:
Via systemless root, yes, you can indeed use Android Pay. You lose nothing by rooting (apart from the ability to take OTAs with TWRP installed).
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Do you have a link for this method? Maybe I'm blind or just overlooked it but couldn't find using my xda app on my phone.
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madskills843 said:
Do you have a link for this method? Maybe I'm blind or just overlooked it but couldn't find using my xda app on my phone.
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Indeed. Install TWRP and root following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
anees167 said:
I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
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its working still. flash the super user in the guide. don't modifiy anything in system and should be fine to use. but just being s-off and unlocked 100% wont effect AP at all, its the act of modifying the system is what breaks it.
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I might be mistaken, but I heard that even with systemless root, android pay doesn't work
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You're mistaken.
Hi, I've unfortunately not followed what, for me, would have been the most important bit of this excellent guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
Namely the line that would have enabled me to flash SuperSU and maintain encryption rather than blundering in and flashing the latest SuperSU regardless...doh!
The most important thing for me is to be able to use Android pay which obviously now I can't.
Can I undo my stupidity?......or not?
Is there some way to get root without unlocking the bootloader/wiping?
AFAIK root requires a custom recovery, to flash a custom recovery requires unlocked bootloader, so simple answer is no.
ghostofcain said:
AFAIK root requires a custom recovery, to flash a custom recovery requires unlocked bootloader, so simple answer is no.
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What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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Nothing, the only downside is the need to wipe data.
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Nothing, the only downside is the need to wipe data.
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I want sure about the fingerprint, etc. Thanks!
Damn, read a bit about what a bootloader is, its role is described in its name. Those fears are pointless.
Striatum_bdr said:
Damn, read a bit about what a bootloader is, its role is described in its name. Those fears are pointless.
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Not necessary, coming from other devices. I am no noob, I know what BL is, but some manufacturers tie certain features to locked BL. Sony for example cripples camera when you unlock.
kokesh said:
Not necessary, coming from other devices. I am no noob, I know what BL is, but some manufacturers tie certain features to locked BL. Sony for example cripples camera when you unlock.
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oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.
bonham1988 said:
oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.
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How does it work with OTA updates? Do those work with TWRP?
kokesh said:
How does it work with OTA updates? Do those work with TWRP?
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Otas dont work with twrp, oneplus releases a singed ota update on their forums usually within a week or two after the official ota. These singned updates can be flashed via twrp.
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The only downside to unlocking the BL on the OP3 is that you get a warning message (http://i.imgur.com/88NcI2K.jpg) when booting the phone. Lots of people hate it, i like it personally. It makes pressing button combos to get into fastboot/recovery obsolete.
bonham1988 said:
Otas dont work with twrp, oneplus releases a singed ota update on their forums usually within a week or two after the official ota. These singned updates can be flashed via twrp.
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And xda often have a TWRP flash able update before the OTA has reached everyone.
ghostofcain said:
AFAIK root requires a custom recovery ...
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If flashing is the only way to root the device, then yes.
And unfortunately flashing seems to be the only way.
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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Security. Your data are no more safe if your phone get stolen.
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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All SafetyNet apps stop working (Android Pay, PokeGO etc.)
kokesh said:
What functionality do I loose with unlocking? Wiping data of course, but otherwise?
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I loose Android Pay. That's what i miss
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fp1707 said:
I loose Android Pay. That's what i miss
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Use Magisk and its all fine.
Puddi_Puddin said:
Use Magisk and its all fine.
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I tried setting that up but i keep failing. Not sure what i'm doing wrong
NVM i see what i got wrong, now it works just fine
bonham1988 said:
oneplus works same whether the bootlader is locked or unlocked. the only downside is as soon as you lock or unlock your bootloader your phone is wiped completely.
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This is not correct on OxygenOS 4.0.2, it's possible to root without wipe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDRPWvYJYfU
If so, can you post a little about the initial setup? If you want to change kernels do you have to resort back to stock each time?
I understand you need to be completely stock when you install it the first time, I assume with an unlocked bootloader?
I got magisk running smoothly. I can share if anyone wants.
Sorry, what's Magisk?
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Sorry, what's Magisk?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/mod-magisk-v1-universal-systemless-t3432382/page344
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/mod-magisk-v1-universal-systemless-t3432382/page344
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I use Magisk on all Nougat roms. I haven't had any luck with "Chainfires" SuperSU v2.78 or any other version for that matter. I think the set up requires a couple more steps that just flashing a SuperSu zip like the one we are all used to but the benefits that come with Magisk are worth it and it just plain works. And if you use the Magisk manager you can also toggle SElinux on and off and turn root on and off for apps that require no root.. I have been on board since N hit and we has no working root accept for this, and once I used it I was hooked.
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glockman4519 said:
I use Magisk on all Nougat roms. I haven't had any luck with "Chainfires" SuperSU v2.78 or any other version for that matter. I think the set up requires a couple more steps that just flashing a SuperSu zip like the one we are all used to but the benefits that come with Magisk are worth it and it just plain works. And if you use the Magisk manager you can also toggle SElinux on and off and turn root on and off for apps that require no root.. I have been on board since N hit and we has no working root accept for this, and once I used it I was hooked.
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Yeah I'm enjoying it. Also the automagisk app helps with other apps.
I'm using the phh superuser and its been working fine. Just waiting for xposed to drop for N and I'll be happy.
knipp21 said:
I got magisk running smoothly. I can share if anyone wants.
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Yes, please, if you don't mind. It's a bit of information overload in the magisk thread. I've been watching it intently as the program has developed. Just haven't pulled the trigger on flashing yet.
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Yes, please, if you don't mind. It's a bit of information overload in the magisk thread. I've been watching it intently as the program has developed. Just haven't pulled the trigger on flashing yet.
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Yea no prob.
What I did was use the nexus root toolkit to unlock my bootloader (replacement phone) then followed this guide
http://blog.meltedpeng.com/easiest-way-to-install-systemless-root-and-xposed-on-your-nexus-5/
But I replaced the su with the phh super user from magisk.
I also did Franco kernel.
If I need to explain more let me know.
hie guys i am actually new to magisk and using this for pokemon go, my phone is nexus 6p and running android 7.1.1. Everything is working fine as i have checked on root checker pro, I am having some problems and i hope i will get some help here
1.) i am not able to move any app to system, error showing is 'can not remount system'
2.) when i restore any back up it restores till 53% and then stucks in bootloop
3.) i am not able to install any update even if i hide my root. tried flashfire also
and sorry for bad english
knipp21 said:
I got magisk running smoothly. I can share if anyone wants.
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I flashed Magisk v 12, but not showing up in the Magisk manager app.
I'm on Google Pixel ROM(rooted), with SuperSU.
I thought that the installation guide on the Magisk site said that Magisk would over write SuperSU.
Whats your setup, and what process did you use to get Magisk working?
alexdpaul said:
I flashed Magisk v 12, but not showing up in the Magisk manager app.
I'm on Google Pixel ROM(rooted), with SuperSU.
I thought that the installation guide on the Magisk site said that Magisk would over write SuperSU.
Whats your setup, and what process did you use to get Magisk working?
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If the ROM does not come with root, reflash ROM and​ then magisk.
alexdpaul said:
I flashed Magisk v 12, but not showing up in the Magisk manager app.
I'm on Google Pixel ROM(rooted), with SuperSU.
I thought that the installation guide on the Magisk site said that Magisk would over write SuperSU.
Whats your setup, and what process did you use to get Magisk working?
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Magisk does not overwrite supersu, if it detects supersu it does not install it's own superuser version. It continues to allow the system use supersu.
If you want to use magisk and use magisk's su, then you'd need to use a rom that does not come rooted and then flash magisk.
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Magisk does not overwrite supersu, if it detects supersu it does not install it's own superuser version. It continues to allow the system use supersu.
If you want to use magisk and use magisk's su, then you'd need to use a rom that does not come rooted and then flash magisk.
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Thanks for the explanation.
Finally got Magisk installed by removing SuperSU, reflashing the boot image (stock), then Magisk - all good!
Can anyone tell me some benefits of magisk apart from hiding root to some apps?
I just discovered this
Javi22 said:
Can anyone tell me some benefits of magisk apart from hiding root to some apps?
I just discovered this
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Magisk modules, that allow to use some mods without touching the system like the EIS for example...
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Magisk modules, that allow to use some mods without touching the system like the EIS for example...
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Ok so it only is useful if you don't want to modify system for Android pay and that?
Thanks
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Javi22 said:
Ok so it only is useful if you don't want to modify system for Android pay and that?
Thanks
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A lot of apps won't work if they detect root, or if the SafetyNet won't pass. Android Pay is one of them, but a lot of banking apps, Pokemon Go, Mario Run, etc won't work.
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A lot of apps won't work if they detect root, or if the SafetyNet won't pass. Android Pay is one of them, but a lot of banking apps, Pokemon Go, Mario Run, etc won't work.
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Well I don't use those apps but when I've time I will try magisk just to see some modules might be interesting. Thanks for the info
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Well I don't use those apps but when I've time I will try magisk just to see some modules might be interesting. Thanks for the info
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The modules are worth it. I only use a few for the camera, like 60fps video or EIS, and they're quite nice.
Hi guys. I was wondering if it's possible to unlock bootloader, install twrp, root with magisk or supersu, flash stock recovery, then relock the bootloader.
I'm asking this because I have no intention of changing the stock rom but I want to have root just in case an app needs it. Also, when I startup the phone, there's that annoying message. Aaaaand I still want to banking apps and Android pay. Thank you!
Edit. Don't try this because it will brick your device. tried, confirmed, bricked.
Nope, won't work. Try locking bootloader with modified system and you'll end up with a brick.
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If u try to lock bootloader back make sure to install stock recovery 1st
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Nope, won't work. Try locking bootloader with modified system and you'll end up with a brick.
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Hmm, magisk messes the system partition, right?
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If u try to lock bootloader back make sure to install stock recovery 1st
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I'm thinking of giving it a go
Maybe, dunno for sure, I don't use magisk.
You may try if you want, just keep that unbrick tool handy.
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Maybe, dunno for sure, I don't use magisk.
You may try if you want, just keep that unbrick tool handy.
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yep, you were right. after locking the bootloader, it gets in a bootloop, and restarts forever. luckily i was able to enter stock recovery and was able to flash 7.0 again. cheers
Back to your first post - you can have root with magisk and still pass safetynet (so banking apps etc will work), but the bootloader has to remain unlocked. Again, I can't go into details as I'm personally not using this, but I know that it works from what I'm reading on this forum.
You just can't get rid of that message on boot, otherwise having an unlocked bootloader is not really an issue.
Btw, even that message can be skipped by pressing the power button again, no need to wait 5 seconds.
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I have an unlocked bootloader and have magisk installed. SafetyNet passes with hide enable. I can confirm Android Pay works. My banking app works, but I'm sure which banking app you're using.
I too can confirm that when magisk is installed and safetynet can be passed, my banking apps work totally fine here in Germany
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Magisk is fantastic, not only is it starting to open a new xposed like module repository, but being able to pass safety net and have root is awesome..
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I did it just for the sake of experiment!!!
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I did it just for the sake of experiment!!!
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Teach us, master!
I wonder if it is possible to install a custom recovery on my OnePlus 5t without the use of a PC. The bootloader is already unlocked but I lost my existing recovery while updating to the latest OxygenOS Version. I searched XDA but couldn't find a guide for that.
Thanks for your help.
compu7er said:
I wonder if it is possible to install a custom recovery on my OnePlus 5t without the use of a PC. The bootloader is already unlocked but I lost my existing recovery while updating to the latest OxygenOS Version. I searched XDA but couldn't find a guide for that.
Thanks for your help.
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Well I've never personally installed a custom recovery without a PC. If you're still rooted you can maybe try flashify, but you probably lost root too.
compu7er said:
I wonder if it is possible to install a custom recovery on my OnePlus 5t without the use of a PC. The bootloader is already unlocked but I lost my existing recovery while updating to the latest OxygenOS Version. I searched XDA but couldn't find a guide for that.
Thanks for your help.
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If you are rooted you can do it with Root Toolcase app which can be installed from Playstore. I do it with Root Toolcase.
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Thanks for your ideas and thoughts! Unfortunatly I was not clear enough in explaining my situation. Yes, I also lost root. Therefore I need to get root back an then the custom recovery. I'm at the camping site at the moment and I don't have access to any PC... Is it possible to root my device without a PC?
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Thanks for your ideas and thoughts! Unfortunatly I was not clear enough in explaining my situation. Yes, I also lost root. Therefore I need to get root back an then the custom recovery. I'm at the camping site at the moment and I don't have access to any PC... Is it possible to root my device without a PC?
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Ooh i see. Sorry. Then there is no way doing it without a pc.
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