Hello,
Since Android 6, my smartwatch 3 needs a very long time to get a GPS position.
I use it only for running, with ghostracer or runkeeper.
Time to get the position was between 30sec and 1min before android 6 update.
It is now between 20 minutes and 30 minutes. The behaviour is the same with ghostracer and runkeeper (or wear GPS)
I also have an issue with Google Maps where the map stays gray as if there was no internet access. But I am not sure it is related.
I already tried a factory reset of the watch without success.
Do you see any other way to correct it ? I did not find a way to downgrade the watch.
Thanks.
Experiencing the same thing... I picked up a Moto360 Gen 2 for cheap, I'm infinitely happier with it as a watch. I think I am going to unload my Sony, and pick up a Tomtom tracker for running. $100 or so, direct swap for me, and infinitely more appropriate as a tracker. Half the time I go running, my SW3 fails to pick up a signal the entire run. Or it picks it up and loses it at some point during my run. It's basically useless for tracking at this point. I've owned a lot of devices, it's by far and away the worst GPS reliability I've ever seen.
Im getting about 20 second lock time. dont' have this problem. It could be your unit.
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Hi,
i did recently a HardReset and the GPS-Fix is much quicker than before..... maybe this helps you
Hi there - try before running pair it with smartphone with GPS on and then let it catch fix - when you will go out with only watch without phone - it should catch fix much faster. I know it does not fix problem, but it will help you for now
Still no solutions? I'd buy one...
Guys I have the same problem. How fix it?
Edit: as You write I did a foctory reset and nie GPS on my watch is working.
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I've been having problems with copilot - it fails to acquire any satellites until I soft reset; then it works fine. A couple of days later I try using copilot again and the same thing happens. Anybody got any suggestions (other than use TomTom which I found was much more useable on my last XDA)?
are you updating the quick gps software every 3 days ? that may help but doesnt sound good enough
no - i'll give this a try, but it shouldn't stop it acquiring a fix even if it does take longer - I've waited for at least 10 minutes which is how long stone age GPSs used to take...
I definately think it's Co-Pilot verifiying the NMEA data that gets sent down. It's good because it ensures you don't get eratic positions (or most of the time anyway), but bad because as you've found out it takes a while longer to aply a fix. Can't really recommend anything other than to ensure QuickGPS is upto date.
Put it this way, the GPS program we wrote at work I've tried on my Orbit and I can get a signal lock in about 4 seconds with a pretty damn close position of where I am, so it's definately not the hardware (unless it's your particular phone).
Hi, I'm really not sure what to make of this problem so maybe you can help me out pinpointing the problem so I can take care of it. I've observed several things and don't know how to connect the dots, or if there's any connection, so let me list what I've been seeing:
1 - I've got TomTom to use on my car.
2 - Worked wonderfully well on the first week or so. Fast to lock onto satellites (10 to 20 seconds), accurate and stable without loosing the lock.
3 - I've noticed from day one that it tends to to locate me a few meters back than what I'm actually am, so if I come about two streets very near one another, the turn on the correct one is a bit hard to to tell without looking at the map.
4 - A week ago, the phone started to take longer to lock my position and won't keep it, it often loses connection with the satellites.
5 - Also, the problem is a lot worse if I stop. It might be accurate while I'm driving over 50mph but, if I stop, the direction I'm facing is lost and then my location. It will place me within 50m to 100m of where I am, which could mean on another street. It has become useless for the slow paced city driving, with red lights and slow traffic.
6 - I haven't changed ROMs or anything major but I have downloaded a few apps, might have taken a few others out, the usual stuff... I'm using Android Revolution HD 31.2.
7 - I've noticed that a lot of times, in regular mobile use, the GPS icon shows up trying to locate my position, even with GPS off. Might be that I have accepted Google's location request or is embedded on some app. Don't know if this has any relation to the workings of navigation or with the timeframe the problem occurred.
8 - A final though... I've always had this problem with standalone GPS devices... They work fine for a few weeks/couple of months and then they seem to deteriorate, having a hard time to locate my position, maintaining a good connection, etc. I have no idea on why this is or if there's some sort of cache I should be cleaning.
Oh, and this happens regardless of the weather... overcasted, rainy days or clear skies, it's all the same.
So any thoughts on how to pinpoint the source of the problem so I can fix it?
Cheers!
Renato
Anyone?
If I try to navigate from the Zenwatch, the phone brings up google navigate even if the phone is sleeping. I would think that might be an issue in a pocket, but that's not the biggest issue.
The destination seems to get set correctly but neither the phone or the watch continues to navigate. They both seem to lock up.
Subsequently any other Nav app (I hope Waze gets Wear support soon) is unable to navigate as they are unable to get GPS lock. Looking at other GPS helper apps shows zero sats in range. Stopping/Restarting location services doesn't solve the problem. Only resetting the phone does.
Maybe it's just me. Sprint HTC One Max, stock. Anybody else?
I noticed this the other day when I was testing out navigation for fun. Once I took my phone out of my pocket, it seemed like it was able to get a lock again and things went more smoothly. I know gps can be a bit sensitive sometimes and maybe having it right next to your leg like that blocks the signal?
When the problem (GPS lockup) manifests there is nothing that will get it going other than a phone reset. I normally have my phone in a holder high on my dash where gets good reception, but when it gets in that state, not even one satellite shows a hint of a signal. Today I even made sure to stand outside holding my phone up in clear sky just to be sure.
Even if I don't access nav Google maps or Micro Maps from the watch it still locks up at some unknown point. I normally keep GPS on all of the time and have a number of apps that store locations from time-to-time. When I get in my car, Waze automatically starts but I can't get any sat signals until I reset my phone.
I'm experimenting with a theory that another member brought up in a different thread that there may be a connection with using a watch face that also includes weather and the number of GPS requests it makes. I've changed to the basic face that is in all of the marketing photos and continuing to test. I guess my next step will be to leave the watch at home :crying: to make sure that something wonky hasn't happened with the phone itself.
Are there any other frequent GPS users out there that can confirm or haven't experienced the problem? It doesn't seem to matter if you use the nav functionality on the watch.
The updates this morning seem to have fixed the problem.
after a loooot of search on the internet and after reading all the older posts here i am desperate and i am opening here a thread. Thats my last hope that someone found a solution to this issue.
So 6 months ago i bought a nexus 7 2013 wifi for a car project. i wanted to use it as multimedia and navigation system. After i modified my car (see pic. / contact me in case of interesst or advices)
https://postimg.org/image/exyp7da37/
everything was nice i was happy with the result. The problem starts when i wanted to use the navigation...
The device cant find a satelite, searching for gps signal is the only message i see. 9/10 the gps cant find satelite. One or two times it found the signal after one hour or more..
My thoughts:
1. The case is causing this issues... the tablet charges wireless and is kept in place with magnets so i can remove it in a second.
I am trying with the "naked" tablet outside with directly sky view... no change.
2. The backcover is modified with 2 small metal plates in order to get magnetizied with the magnets installed in the car dush.
i tried an other backcover.. no change.
3. I tought it is a software issue.... i was using Cyanogenmod 13 with elemental X... installed the original software / Android 6. Without any other installations only GPS Status... still no signal.. I installed android 5.0.1 ... still no signal.
4. i used various of settings changes and apps ( GPS FIX, GPS Doctor, GPS Status) ... the gps android settings are the the most accurate level. Still no change..
created the data/gps/ folder with the permissions rwxrwxr-x. Still no change.
After all that and after reading that there are many people out there with the same problem i thought thats a hardware issue.
5. Thats why i bought an other one (used)... before buying it i made sure that the tablet will find a satelite in GPS Status... i went to the sellers house.. and it did (with wifi off). I went back home i tried again and it did... i was so happy.. i wiped my storage flashed CM13 with ElementalX again ... i opened the Nav App (Sygic)... Everything worked like a charm... i was so happy i finally have gps in my car. I visited a friend stayed there 5 hours went back home... Navi still works.
I took the tablet in my home and wanted to make a restart for some reason... After restarting , tablets gps was dead again... and still looking for a solution..
i am 100% it is a software issue. in case there is someone out there with a solution i would really appreciate it.
I'm kinda on the same boat.
My trusty Nexus 7 2013, that has been through a lot of display changes due to my clumsiness. Few days ago it decided to kick the GPS boat for reasons.
It used to work just fine, without any software tricks or anything. Used to work beautifully without wi-fi (even though I tethered from my phone, many times I travelled to places without connection) with a 8-10m precision.
Now it's spotty, taking from 2 to 280 seconds for the first fix, and precision floats between 10 and 150m (which is unbearable).
Using GPS Status & Toolbox, I can see the A-GPS does it part guiding the tablet on where are the sattelites at (I see around 22 sattelites), however the tablet has a real hard time connecting to them, most of the time staying at a solid 0 connections. My phone (Moto G5 Plus) connects within' seconds to the sattelites with pinpoint precision.
When the tablets manages to fix, it only connects to a couple (5 or 8 out of 22) sattelites, thus not so precise.
I am guessing the heat might have damaged something, but I'm not also 100% sure it ain't a software issue. I flashed the sole GPS fix, but it didn't help at all. I tried every software trick on the book, but nothing. I flashed several ROMs but it didn't make even a dent.
It seemingly gets better if I keep it connected for a good while. I tried letting it overnight with the GPS connected, and it worked fine the day after at any time (between 5 and 20m precision). However it was dead again the next day.
I couldn't find anything regarding a GPS antenna for this device, it's almost like it doesn't have one... I fiddled with the Wi-Fi antenna, which has 3 pins (one I guess is for bluetooth?), but it didn't help with GPS. Bluetooth (I use an OBD2 scanner that sends too many data per second, and I still can play music through bluetooth just fine) and Wi-Fi (Speeds and latency are optimal) are great.
I can't help but think this device doesn't have a GPS antenna, and whatever it uses for an antenna has failed or is now faulty.
Have you ever managed fixing yours?
Just recently over the last couple months, I have been having a problem with getting a good gps signal in programs such as Waze and Google maps. I have done all kinds of searches and many mention to go into settings and in location settings, turn on High Accuracy. That option is bo longer available and not sure if it was eliminated in Pie. I have been doing all the latest updates and believe I am current. The only thing I have been able to find is to go into settings, then Biometrics, and there I found location. The only choices under Improve Accuracy is to turn on Wifi scanning and Bluetooth scanning which I have done. There no longer is a choice of High Accuracy and the ability to turn GPS on or off like I had in previous phones and previous versions of Android. I have even tried turning on High Performance under Battery Power settings and turned off any choices to optimize battery or disable apps. I ended up downloading 2 different GPS apps from Store, GPS Status and GPS Fix/Optimizer. I will normally use Waze or Google maps through Android Auto. I can tell when there is a problem when the position indicator keeps bouncing all over the place in Waze and cant find exactly where I am. When that happens, I will check on GPS Status and it always shows that it is having a problem acquiring the satellite signals. I will then open up GPS Fix/Optimizer and on the home screen, there is a button that will say Service Off. I press it and it will then read Service On. Switching back to GPS Status will now show that it is starting to acquire multiple satellite signals. When I switch back to Waze, now it is able to show my exact location and begins to work properly.
This is driving me nuts. I never had this problem on any other of multiple different phones or Android versions. I can get GPS working but have to jump through all these hoops each time and it sucks. So what other steps can I do to be able to fire up Waze and have it find me right away?
It's not just an Android Auto thing, it happens with GPS in general. There have been many posts about it over on Reddit in the Note 8 Forum dating back to March. The best fix is to just toggle location whenever you notice that GPS isn't working.
The scary thing is not only has Samsung not even acknowledged there is an issue, newer phones are also starting to have the problem. Just saw people complaining about the same thing in a S20 forum. Just like our issues, they started after an update.
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Just recently over the last couple months, I have been having a problem with getting a good gps signal in programs such as Waze and Google maps. I have done all kinds of searches and many mention to go into settings and in location settings, turn on High Accuracy. That option is bo longer available and not sure if it was eliminated in Pie. I have been doing all the latest updates and believe I am current. The only thing I have been able to find is to go into settings, then Biometrics, and there I found location. The only choices under Improve Accuracy is to turn on Wifi scanning and Bluetooth scanning which I have done. There no longer is a choice of High Accuracy and the ability to turn GPS on or off like I had in previous phones and previous versions of Android. I have even tried turning on High Performance under Battery Power settings and turned off any choices to optimize battery or disable apps. I ended up downloading 2 different GPS apps from Store, GPS Status and GPS Fix/Optimizer. I will normally use Waze or Google maps through Android Auto. I can tell when there is a problem when the position indicator keeps bouncing all over the place in Waze and cant find exactly where I am. When that happens, I will check on GPS Status and it always shows that it is having a problem acquiring the satellite signals. I will then open up GPS Fix/Optimizer and on the home screen, there is a button that will say Service Off. I press it and it will then read Service On. Switching back to GPS Status will now show that it is starting to acquire multiple satellite signals. When I switch back to Waze, now it is able to show my exact location and begins to work properly.
This is driving me nuts. I never had this problem on any other of multiple different phones or Android versions. I can get GPS working but have to jump through all these hoops each time and it sucks. So what other steps can I do to be able to fire up Waze and have it find me right away?
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Did you ever find a fix for this problem ? I am dealing with this too and have been for a while. GPS when using as a phone is no issues at all but, once you connect Android Auto, it's a mess. Very hit or miss and even if I hit where it works, it will drift off and require me to unplug/re-plugin my Note 8..
I posted to a few other places on this issue, nothing has solidly fixed this. Otherwise my note 8 works fine, so I no reason right now to upgrade, till the phone I want drops a little in price.
Reddit post
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidAut...ps_on_waze_or_google_maps_gets_randomly_lost/
Android auto site..
https://support.google.com/androidauto/thread/45792804?hl=en
Samsung's site
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...-GPS-randomly-on-Waze-and-Google/td-p/1332311
And even Ad central.. er...Android Central
https://forums.androidcentral.com/a...-gps-randomly-gets-lost-any-idea.html?mn_qa=1
Anyone else figure this problem out ?
I still havent found a fix. Here is another thread I started on the main Galaxy Note 8 that produced a lot more discussion but sadly, no fix yet.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/recent-gps-problems-t4058849
For me at least, it seems like it may be an issue between Android Auto and my Chevrolet. Still not entirely convinced but folks over at Android Auto claim that there is a communication problem with Android Auto trying to communicate with the internal gps on my truck. Supposedly even though I dont have traditional on board navigation, there is still gps communications going on. I believe that with Chevy, it is the onstar system. Android Auto is programmed to utilize vehicle gps because it is supposed to be more accurate. Unfortunately, if that is the case, and there is constant communication error between the Note 8 and vehicle, the result is that the apps in AA like Waze and Google maps continually have location errors. I inquired why AA couldnt just allow users to utilize the phone GPS as an option and was again told that a vehicle gps would be way more accurate so that option isnt available. When unplugging usb from vehicle, it defaults to the phone GPS and begins working again almost immediately. So is the problem with AA programming or communication problems with my Chevy truck? Who knows. Sometimes they communicate just fine from the get go but other times, not so much. I just wish the problem could be fixed. I would be leaning towards AA programming as this does not just happen with Chevy vehicles but AA just passes the buck.
mikeyk101 said:
I still havent found a fix. Here is another thread I started on the main Galaxy Note 8 that produced a lot more discussion but sadly, no fix yet.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/recent-gps-problems-t4058849
For me at least, it seems like it may be an issue between Android Auto and my Chevrolet. Still not entirely convinced but folks over at Android Auto claim that there is a communication problem with Android Auto trying to communicate with the internal gps on my truck. Supposedly even though I dont have traditional on board navigation, there is still gps communications going on. I believe that with Chevy, it is the onstar system. Android Auto is programmed to utilize vehicle gps because it is supposed to be more accurate. Unfortunately, if that is the case, and there is constant communication error between the Note 8 and vehicle, the result is that the apps in AA like Waze and Google maps continually have location errors. I inquired why AA couldnt just allow users to utilize the phone GPS as an option and was again told that a vehicle gps would be way more accurate so that option isnt available. When unplugging usb from vehicle, it defaults to the phone GPS and begins working again almost immediately. So is the problem with AA programming or communication problems with my Chevy truck? Who knows. Sometimes they communicate just fine from the get go but other times, not so much. I just wish the problem could be fixed. I would be leaning towards AA programming as this does not just happen with Chevy vehicles but AA just passes the buck.
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Yep, saw that thread as well and the one on Android Auto's site, I even replied to it. Wishing there was a solid fix here but, no... I have a Lexus LS that I added on a 3rd party Android auto device on. I had this same issue when I had a 2019 Ford with Android Auto as a rental. I figured 6 months later (I just put AA in my car about 2 weeks ago) it would be resolved by now.
Not 100% sure it is the GPS car thing you were told, as other phones plug into Android auto and have a seamless experience if this was the case, all phones would have this issue. We are using the same software. So why is the Note 8 different ? Well, I hear this effects other Samsung phones but, none as bad as the Note 8. Newer Android 10 even Samsung phones do not report this issue, as far as I have heard.
Oh, well the quest goes on... If you find something, please drop me a line....and thanks !
"Me too" - Driving me crazy. Toggling Location services off and on sometimes helps, but not always. I'll be moving, and the map doesn't reflect any movement.
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"Me too" - Driving me crazy. Toggling Location services off and on sometimes helps, but not always. I'll be moving, and the map doesn't reflect any movement.
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Toggling when driving is not a good idea, Normally unplugging and plugging back in works just as well. Funny for the last week, it was working fine (get lost when in a lot of trees and sometimes not recover but, on the highway it was perfect), till this morning and it was a mess.
There was an update for the Note 8 on Verizon a week ago, I need to double check all the power saving features and make sure they are fully disabled...
I had also started a thread on the Google Android Auto community back in May where the developers monitor posts. Just recently (about a week ago) it seems they are acknowledging that there may be a problem and posted they were going to send out emails to several that were affected by this. They gave directions on how to forward a bug report to them when the problem showed up. I was one that received the bug report email. I have since submitted 2 bug reports to them but have not received any kind of reply. Hopefully I hear back sometime soon and they are able to identify exactly what the problem is. If I do, I will post their response...