Qualcomm Quick Charge 2 or 3? - Note 7 Questions & Answers

Does anyone know if the Note 7 uses QQC2 or QQC3? The S7E uses QQC2, but I'd like to see QQC3 in the Note line.

Sadly, no. From Android Headlines...
"The other big question, when it comes to the battery, is always about fast charging or quick charging. Now here in the US, the Galaxy Note 7 is sporting the Snapdragon 820, which is a Quick Charge 3.0 compatible processor. However, much like the Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S7 Edge, it will not be available on the Galaxy Note 7. However, Samsung’s Adaptive Fast Charging is here – which is about the speed of Quick Charge 2.0 from Qualcomm. So you’ll be able to charge your Galaxy Note 7 quickly, but perhaps not as quickly as a Quick Charge 3.0 charger would allow. That’s a bit unfortunate, but this is likely to keep the user experience the same for everyone, since their Exynos processors don’t support Quick Charge 3.0."

the charger output 12v=2.1a
that looks like qualcomm 3.0 speed
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-note-7-adaptive-fast-charger-leaked-online-20160719/

Interesting. That charger has a different model number than the one on the S7 Edge which is the same as my Note5. From Samsung's website...
Fast Charging - With new 25W USB-C Fast Charge technology, your battery can go from zero to up to 50% in about 30 minutes, so you can spend less time connected to an outlet. The 25W USB-C Fast Charge wall charger will charge the Galaxy Note7 and other USB-C devices without the Fast Charging feature as well, with up to a 2 Amp charging rate.

Qc 2....even though the LG g5 is qc3 due to the 820 processor. Since the Exnyos version only supports qc2, they didn't want the Qualcomm owners to have qc3.
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Qc2
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While everyone will have a different opinion of significant... In my opinion the difference between QC2 and QC3 is not that huge. It might be nice to have QC3, but I wouldn't make a purchase decision over it.

Based from Qualcomm's press release, in the fine print they noted that Galaxy Note7 features Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 and 3.0. There are conflicting reports everywhere so... I still don't know who to believe.
I can't post links yet but GIYF. :|

Yup... basically what aburns7487 says above is true.
The Exynos held Samsung back from using QC3 on this phone.
Or else everyone around the world would get a different experience.

This been confirmed yet.
How can a flagship device not have flagship features

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Fast Chargers

Will using a fast charger hurt the phone?
I have been using my note edge charger but will it cause issues?
Always only use the charger that comes with the phone, other chargers may cause issues (damage battery, damage the phones charging port, etc.). its not gonna be really fatal if the charger is fine, but its reccomended to only use the charger what came with the device.
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And cus the z5p doest support fast charging i wouldt use a fast charger.. (i am not sure does it support) i think it did or then not lol but dont use dat!
Cool thanks, shame the UK version does not come with a plug!
I'm using anker powerport+ ant it's working fine.
It is a qc qualcomm 3.0
by the way... z5p has a qualcomm sd810 so... z5p support qualcomm qc 2.0 and 1.0
dvdmike said:
Cool thanks, shame the UK version does not come with a plug!
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Yeah pls press the thank you button if i was helpful lol..
dvdmike said:
Cool thanks, shame the UK version does not come with a plug!
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Sony xperia z5 premium is totally Qualcomm fast charge 2 capable.
I use my note 4 fast adaptive charger without any issues and it is fast charing as hell. This is because the phone support Qualcomm quick charge (which is a open standard from Qualcomm and Samsung use the same).
Even if you want you can't damage your battery because a controller inside the phone or the battery is controlling the charge, checking multiple parameters to avoid battery explosion.
It is simple - you can use even 5A charger, but the controller inside the phone will allow only safe charge rates.
So at the end, Yes you can use your note edge charger without any issues!
masaforce said:
Yeah pls press the thank you button if i was helpful lol..
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Thought I did press it
r0gger said:
Sony xperia z5 premium is totally Qualcomm fast charge 2 capable.
I use my note 4 fast adaptive charger without any issues and it is fast charing as hell. This is because the phone support Qualcomm quick charge (which is a open standard from Qualcomm and Samsung use the same).
Even if you want you can't damage your battery because a controller inside the phone or the battery is controlling the charge, checking multiple parameters to avoid battery explosion.
It is simple - you can use even 5A charger, but the controller inside the phone will allow only safe charge rates.
So at the end, Yes you can use your note edge charger without any issues!
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Damn I just traded it in with my note edge
Just buy the Sony charger I did even I have a 2.4a charger for tablets and a Samsung fast charger...
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Anyone know what the fastest possible charging time from about 10% to fully charged would be? And with what charger?
-xirt0n
Mine came with the UCH10 charger and am using my short Sony usb cable that came with my headset (EC300). I went from 4% to 100% in 1 hour and 35 mins. I also tested with the Tronsmart quick charge 2.0. It went from 6% to 100% in 57 mins. Both chargers support the 5v/9v/12v output. Does anyone have a qc2.0 20v charger? I wonder if it will be faster?

Very slow charging using portable powerbank

I have a zendure a2 which used to charge my exynos note 7 extreme quickly but is painfully slow on the pixel xl. (Over 3 hours). Any ideas how to speed this up?
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Easy, get portable battery that supports USB-PD. The battery that you have doesn't even appear to support QC, much less USB-PD. I wouldn't expect that battery to charge a Pixel at anything above 5W ([email protected]), maybe even less. THe Pixel is designed for fast charging via USB-PD spec chargers. It's still undetermined how the Pixel will react to QC chargers, though it is arguably not designed for them.
Here's the list from Benson Leung and others that catalogs what chargers have been found to work and which ones haven't.
(Post count not high enough to post the link, so you'll have to search for it.)

quick charge 4.0 wall charger

Is this one Tenker, 60W Adapter with PD/QC4.0 truly quick charge 4.0 certified or just QC 4.0 compatible?
What QC 4.0 chrager would you advice?
I'd prefer one with 3-4 USB ports, capable of charging 3 phones/tablets at once
I suggest you check out the Razer charger. They are a very trusted, high end company.
Razer Wall Charger for Phone https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077968S1F/
This phone supports QC 4.0? I looked on official LG site and it only says 3.0.
id3alistic said:
This phone supports QC 4.0? I looked on official LG site and it only says 3.0.
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https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf
id3alistic said:
This phone supports QC 4.0? I looked on official LG site and it only says 3.0.
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Correct, but it supports QC4.0 (as confirmed by others). May be two possible reasons 1) Bad marketing 2) The included charger is only QC3.0 (Why LG, why...its you flagship phone, show some respect and love)
It says
"These devices contain the hardware necessary to achieve Quick Charge 4/4+. It is at the device manufacturer’s
discretion to fully enable this feature."
I do hope it's enabled by default.
aerowild said:
Correct, but it supports QC4.0 (as confirmed by others). May be two possible reasons 1) Bad marketing 2) The included charger is only QC3.0 (Why LG, why...its you flagship phone, show some respect and love)
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Well QC4.0 chargers are almost none existant, that's why
A better QC 3.0 charger than the original (with more amps / 12 volt) can decrease charging time?
Hi
Has anyone tried this charger ?
I did not find any Videos on Youtube or orther sites selling it
What got me Interested in this charger was it has 2 Usb ports
1 of QC 3.0 & orther of QC 4.0
do not know if it works
See it here -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB...e946-4a73-b356-c931053a86c8&priceBeautifyAB=0
Cheaper at Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BS8LXW9/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1_w?th=1
Found One more -
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Deli...fkmr1&keywords=Huawei+QC+4.0+Charger+60w+dual
Seems by Next year we will have QC 4.0
Usb Quick Charge 4 ports
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BNG29CG/ref=pd_luc_rh_sspa_dk_huc_pt_sub_1?psc=1
Please Share if you get any Info on this or any Similar DUAL Quick Charger like this
Thanks
mikimay said:
It says
"These devices contain the hardware necessary to achieve Quick Charge 4/4+. It is at the device manufacturer’s
discretion to fully enable this feature."
I do hope it's enabled by default.
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Yeah the 845 supports it but i dont think LG has enabled it in firmware.
Im just excited we have fast wireless charging thats useable.
Kind of like bands, the radio will do them all but most are firmware specific.
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before buy qc 4.0 charger i think the first step is create a mod that enable quickcharge when screen is on and possibility of increase max charging current to 3 amp
notice that when screen is on max current is around 1A and when is off is around 2.2A
so i think is useless buy an expensive charger when the firmware is limited to these values
darix96 said:
before buy qc 4.0 charger i think the first step is create a mod that enable quickcharge when screen is on and possibility of increase max charging current to 3 amp
notice that when screen is on max current is around 1A and when is off is around 2.2A
so i think is useless buy an expensive charger when the firmware is limited to these values
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Exactly, we need a custom kernel to have the charging amperes to be changed manually which is really cool. If we have a really cool custom kernel, the CPU governors should preset customisable governors (for smooth performance) and for the charge values, just look for a 3A charger, with the Kernel Adiutor change the values. Meaning the benefits of rooting gives us the complete freedom of our Android! If a 4A charger is detected by the kernel manager app, the charge values should show as "upto 4A even with the screen on! Then no need to be jealous of Dash Charging of One Plus!
so... if u bought a quick charge 4.0 brick... will it charge the g7 faster than QC 3.0?
akshaythakor said:
so... if u bought a quick charge 4.0 brick... will it charge the g7 faster than QC 3.0?
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BTT....I'd like to know this too.
darix96 said:
before buy qc 4.0 charger i think the first step is create a mod that enable quickcharge when screen is on and possibility of increase max charging current to 3 amp
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Why? So G7 could pave the ways of Galaxy Note 7 and if not burn in flames then at least loose 50% of battery capacity in half a year? Sorry I'm not enlisting to shoot myself in the foot and throw expensive $700 phone in half a year to garbage can just because
Quick Charge 4.0 doesn't bump currents to 3A, it's not working that way. It bumps voltages to 20V instead
Billy Madison said:
Why? So G7 could pave the ways of Galaxy Note 7 and if not burn in flames then at least loose 50% of battery capacity in half a year? Sorry I'm not enlisting to shoot myself in the foot and throw expensive $700 phone in half a year to garbage can just because
Quick Charge 4.0 doesn't bump currents to 3A, it's not working that way. It bumps voltages to 20V instead
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Yes, and no, i think the only one "problem" (or protection?) is the limit at 1 amp when the screen is unlocked, 20 volt i think isn't so useful if we use a good usb cable
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Yes, and no, i think the only one "problem" (or protection?) is the limit at 1 amp when the screen is unlocked, 20 volt i think isn't so useful if we use a good usb cable
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But, even Samsung said and officially stated that after Note 7 fiasco they made same limit of 1A when screen is unlocked to prevent fast battery degrading. Samsung knows better then XDA uses, I think
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Why? So G7 could pave the ways of Galaxy Note 7 and if not burn in flames then at least loose 50% of battery capacity in half a year? Sorry I'm not enlisting to shoot myself in the foot and throw expensive $700 phone in half a year to garbage can just because
Quick Charge 4.0 doesn't bump currents to 3A, it's not working that way. It bumps voltages to 20V instead
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It's not 20 volts. That's way too much for a battery. It's actually 9v + 2 amps. 20v it's mostly for Tables i think.
LameMonster82 said:
It's not 20 volts. That's way too much for a battery. It's actually 9v + 2 amps. 20v it's mostly for Tables i think.
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9 Volts isn't even Quick Charge 3.0, it's legacy QC 2.0.
QC 3.0 & 4.0 compatible phones can get charged from 20V, 12V, 9V and 5V
This is the one I use:
https://www.aukey.com/products/quick-charge-3-0-wall-charger-pa-t9
But if I plan ahead, I try not to use it very often. It works well, it's just that the long-term health of my battery benefits from slower charging.

45W Compatible Charging Bricks?

I know the phone hasn't hit the streets yet, HOWEVER, does anyone know of any cheap 45W chargers that will be compatible with the Note 10+?? I know probably any 45W charger would do, but are any better than the others?
The is the one I was looking at...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071911MG5/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B071911MG5&pd_rd_w=MVY9A&pf_rd_p=8dbd62ec-d8d3-48e5-b85d-16f701719d81&pd_rd_wg=iEfBW&pf_rd_r=S5BV307RMXWYY7Y4JVYK&pd_rd_r=1b671bb1-6734-47bb-aa06-9d2159dac970
Saw this recommended on AP
https://www.amazon.com/Nekteck-Cert...y-MacBook/dp/B071Z959VX/?tag=androidpolice-20
I have one that i just got. But its a multi voltage one. Goes up to 15v.
I just dont know if it will do the super fast charging or jist fast charging.
I will find out when the phone comes
i need a 45w charging power bank.
Does 45W destroy the battery over time?
Personally, i'm looking for a charger with at least two and preferably three 45w+ Type-C PD ports, with a couple of 18w USB-A ports as well.
Anker have the Atom PD4, but it seems to be as rare as rocking horse poop at the moment.
I have the Huawei MateBook X Pro laptop and it has a 65w intelligent charger.
It fast charges my S10+ perfectly so I'm going to try it once I get my Note 10+ before buying a new one.
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Does 45W destroy the battery over time?
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no.
Before I switched back to the iPhone, this is what I loved about my Note 9, being able to use my 87w Apple MacBook Pro charger to charge my Note.
Is the Samsung official 45w charger that will be coming out soon special in some way to trigger this fast charging mode? Or do any 45w or higher chargers work?
Also, does anybody know if the Note 10+ supports the smart charging logic that Apple has in iOS 13, where it doesn't top off the phone every time (to prolong overall battery health)?
I have a 40W charger from my old huawei mate20 pro however it outputs 10V 4A max which isn't a standard thing. Will the note10+ utilize that kind of rating or will I be stuck with the charger's lower rating which is 18W (9V, 2A).
Edit: Guess no one would actually be able to answer this right now, I'll just have to try it myself when the phone arrives.
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As soon as I get my phone I'll try the power adaptater from my dual wireless charger. This is a 45w brick....
Update on the 45w power brick..
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/08/13/galaxy-note10-plus-45w-charging/

Wireless Charger Pad Slim EP-P1100 Isn't it fast charge?

Guys, I bought this Wireless Charger Pad Slim EP-P1100T, to use on my Note 10 Plus, the information says it has a fast charge, but when I put my device on it, fast charge information does not appear even though it is enabled on the cell phone, is it really so? Android 10 does not show the message?
I think you should use Quick charge 3.0 charging head not the samsung 25w head with it , anyway even if you use the suitable charger with it Note 10 plus automatically shut off fast wireless charging when using slim pad for more that 20% of fast charging because of heat issues since slim charging pads don't have cooling fans and they heat up very quickly
I have one of these also, the only fast charger that enables fast charge with that wireless charger is my old Note 9 charger, it provides the 18w QC2.0 the wireless charger needs.
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I have one of these also, the only fast charger that enables fast charge with that wireless charger is my old Note 9 charger, it provides the 18w QC2.0 the wireless charger needs.
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I'm using the charger that came with Note 10 + ...
Is that why the phone doesn't charge fast charge with the pad?
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I'm using the charger that came with Note 10 + ...
Is that why the phone doesn't charge fast charge with the pad?
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Yes, this charger was designed for the previous generation of phones (S9, Note9 ect) which included a compatible charger. Samsung confirms this here: https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...nes/wireless-charger-pad-slim-ep-p1100bbegww/
Samsung doesn't use Quick Charge technology since it's a Qualcomm only feature and Samsung uses its own chipset which isn't Snapdragon.
Instead, it uses Power Delivery which is a standard and better in all aspects.
Nastrahl said:
Samsung doesn't use Quick Charge technology since it's a Qualcomm only feature and Samsung uses its own chipset which isn't Snapdragon.
Instead, it uses Power Delivery which is a standard and better in all aspects.
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That's not entirely true, Samsung definitely do sell phones with the Qualcomm Snapdragon SOC and the 15W charging on most of their previous phones (S6, S7, S8 and S9 generations) was QC2.0 or QC2.0 compatible. This is why I am able to fast charge my Exynos Note 9 at full 15W with a QC3.0 charger.
USB Power Delivery is good but it's just another charging protocol, later versions of Qualcomm Quick Charge are also USB-PD compatible.
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That's not entirely true, Samsung definitely do sell phones with the Qualcomm Snapdragon SOC and the 15W charging on most of their previous phones (S6, S7, S8 and S9 generations) was QC2.0 or QC2.0 compatible. This is why I am able to fast charge my Exynos Note 9 at full 15W with a QC3.0 charger.
USB Power Delivery is good but it's just another charging protocol, later versions of Qualcomm Quick Charge are also USB-PD compatible.
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That's right it is, but there's more.
It's not just an other charging protocol, it's an USB standard, that's means all USB ports will have it by default.
Quick charge is proprietary licensed and will be dead soon because there's no use of paying licence for nothing.
And it's not the same at all. Power Delivery is made for dynamically adjusting current intensity and tension depending of the device you plug in and battery level, for them to take only what it needs.
Quick charge isn't, that's why you need dedicated QC ports on chargers.
It's easy for QC to be "compliant" if it shares one similar spec, but it's useless since all next USB ports will use USB-PD.
And that how it worked before, with fast charging, you only had to take in consideration that the output specs and the chargers is equal or higher to the input specs of the battery to get fast charge, but it's risky for the battery.
It may appear silly, but for efficiency and durability, lithium ion battery should not be charged at the same current and intensity at all levels and that's at least one reason why it's important.
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That's right it is, but there's more.
It's not just an other charging protocol, it's an USB standard, that's means all USB ports will have it by default.
Quick charge is proprietary licensed and will be dead soon because there's no use of paying licence for nothing.
And it's not the same at all. Power Delivery is made for dynamically adjusting current intensity and tension depending of the device you plug in and battery level, for them to take only what it needs.
Quick charge isn't, that's why you need dedicated QC ports on chargers.
It's easy for QC to be "compliant" if it shares one similar spec, but it's useless since all next USB ports will use USB-PD.
And that how it worked before, with fast charging, you only had to take in consideration that the output specs and the chargers is equal or higher to the input specs of the battery to get fast charge, but it's risky for the battery.
It may appear silly, but for efficiency and durability, lithium ion battery should not be charged at the same current and intensity at all levels and that's at least one reason why it's important.
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I disagree but there doesn't seem to be any point in telling you that you're wrong.

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