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Note 2 vs nexus 4

So guys I'm in a dilemma here I have both phones right now sealed in the box I don't know which one to keep and which one to sell. I'm in Canada so lte works on the nexus 4. What do you guys suggest ? Thanks

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I was in the same dilemma as well. If you don't mind the size, the Note 2 is the better choice. The Nexus 4 may get the faster updates but we're on xda anyway so pretty much any phone with a good community will get updates.

Personally, if I had a choice between those 2 phones, I would prefer the Note 2. I'm a bit biased because I've been with Samsung for so long and I don't trust any other brand other than them. LOL. But from an unbiased point, the Nexus 4 provides faster updates (as mentioned), the Krait processor, and it's Google. Note 2 has a bunch of useful features and now we have some very reputable and brilliant developers in our community which will jump start our development. There's even an Android 4.2 (WIP) coming for us!

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So guys I'm in a dilemma here I have both phones right now sealed in the box I don't know which one to keep and which one to sell. I'm in Canada so lte works on the nexus 4. What do you guys suggest ? Thanks
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Note 2 hands down...more features and great dev support.
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I've used both and ended up sticking with the note 2 there's nothing out there right now that can compare to its specs not even goggles own baby
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Did you ask this same question in the Nexus 4 section? lol...It's gonna be hard to get an unbiased opinion when you ask a question like that in a section specifically for one of the phones
Having said that, I had the LG Optimus G, and aside from the LG skin (which wasn't TOO horrible) it was a good phone, but I still promptly exchanged it for a Note 2 and don't regret it one bit. I have never had good experiences with LG phones. The display was beautiful though.

I have a note 2 and my buddy has a nexus 4. I thought the nexus 4 screen looks way better then note 2 screen hands down in my opinion. The build quality and feel of nexus 4 is also much better. However no removable battery no lte, and no sd card support are major deal breakers. 16gb is just not enough with games and apps installed. At least if they made a 32gb version.
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The nexus 4 has some attractive points. LTE maybe less of an issue if you in Canada. The screen is nice and it's a fast performer.
But for me the lack of MicroSD and non-removable is a no go for me. Not only is battery life on the Note 2 awesome, but I have a spare battery i can use if every needed. I also really like having the s pen and the 5.5" screen i greatly enjoy. The size of the note is not for everyone, I'm OK with it.
You have to decide how important each of these factors are to you. Once you do that I'm sure you'll be happy with your choice.

If note 2 was made by LG and nexus 4 by Samsung, I'd say go for nexus 4...
Personally I'm staying away from anything LG, I had enough gray hair with LG Nitro HD, thank you very much.

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If note 2 was made by LG and nexus 4 by Samsung, I'd say go for nexus 4...
Personally I'm staying away from anything LG, I had enough gray hair with LG Nitro HD, thank you very much.
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You're lucky you never tried the Thrill then...
I need more time before trying LG again. The guy at the AT&T store tried to get me to buy the Optimus G when the Note was not in stock yet. The nexus might be okay if LG isn't responsible for the software.
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When you ask such question in Note 2 forum, my feeling is that you are going to get some bias answer.
I have both phones, and I think both phone are top notch in their own way. Here's what I think:
Nexus 4
- Very solid build, the construction is as solid as iPhone. Feels great in hand.
- The display does produce some relatively accurate colour compare to my IPS displays. I do a lot of photo editing/viewing. On the other hand, the sAMOLED does throw the colour off a bit by over saturated (nature of AMOLED), with the "natural" profile on Note2, it does become closer to real colour. Pixel density on the N4 is also better, but it's not critical as the Note 2 display is pretty sharp with the sAMOLED HD.
- AOSP, AOSP, AOSP! If you aren't a fan of Touchwiz, this is what you should keep. Not just the updates, as they don't come everyday. It's the user experience. Samsung does add a lot of neat feature that many can't live without, but in my honest opinion, AOSP does provide a nice layout and great feature out the box. I am also not a huge fan of Samsung's oversized UI, either.
- Believe it or not, the on screen button is a very important "feature" of N4 - You now have a place to put your thumb when you hold the phone, especially when passing the phone to people to show them stuff...without accidentally touching any of the buttons. However, also because of the on screen button, you do lose some screen estate.
- Buttery smooth, yes, smoother than the "more powerful" Note 2
- The price - You are indeed getting a lot of phone for the price that you are paying.
- Battery is medicore, partially due to bugs of 4.2 I believe. Dead locks are draining the battery.
- Lack of SD card might be a deal breaker for you. It isn't for me.
- Camera sucks.
Note 2
- Huge display, this is probably the max that you can carry with the borderline portability. The display is beneficial for reading stuff, browsing, sharing contents with friends
- The battery is ridiculous. The size, with the power management of the software makes it unreal. I get average 2 hours of light/moderate usage per 10%, on LTE.
- Touchwiz - To use the full features of the Note2, you probably don't want AOSP. The S-Pen works well with touchwiz, and I find touchwiz works well with large displays due to the oversized UI elements
- Size - It's pocketable, but it's not extremely comfortable. Taking in and out, using it in public, talking on it looks very awkward. No matter how big your hands are, how big of a person you are, this IS larger than your average phone by a lot
- One hand usability - Samsung does have some one hand accessibility but in general, reaching for places around the screen is a struggle with one hand
- Great sound - Speaker, and headphone jack.
- Strong vibrator
- S Pen - Unless you have a use for it, it's a gimmick. It's fun to fool around with it, but the hype tends to die off quickly
- FAST charging. Nexus 4 is fast, but Note 2 is even faster consider it's massive battery. This is a very important feature to me.
- Impressive camera, but not that it's any/much better than that of SGS3
- Oh, if you don't have a 7" tablet yet, this should fill that gap a bit.
As it stands, Note 2 has some very attractive points to me, such as the large display for reading and the insane battery life that makes me not to worry about being close to a charger. However, I don't feel comfortable using it on a daily basis due to the size. WIth that said, I am using a Note 2 now as I gave my Nexus 4 (8GB) to my other half. I have a 16GB coming in a month, and I will re-evaluate it again by then.
These two phones are pretty much Android in it's best form in today's market, and they are not substitutable for each other due to the different nature of them. The phone war has evolved to beyond to the specs-war just like computing world. The "better specs" of Note 2 doesn't necessary determine whether the phone is better or not, and with that said, Nexus 4 specs is pretty impressive too. You need to pick your own base on your need
Hope it helps a bit with your decision! Any more specific questions you have that can help with your decision, just ask. It's a tough one to make.

Awesome thanks for the input its a huge decision I think of will end up keeping the note
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The Nexus 4 ultimately had too many drawbacks for me to consider it. The thermal throttling issues with the S4Pro processor, the non-swapable battery with less than stellar battery life, the limited storage without microSD expansion, the glass back prone to cracking, and no LTE. And now we find out that the Nexus 4 cannot support USB-OTG, so all those who bought one thinking they could move files over to an external drive are SOL. No USB keyboards/mice/Dualshock etc. Not a big deal if you have bluetooth peripherals, but I want to have as many options as possible. The Note II is a superhero in that regard...

I have the Note 2 and personally love it, but if you don't need the size, then nexus 4 is a much better option. I love the vanilla 4.2 JB and the screen is much crispier, any build quality is top notch [I have both phones]
If note 2 had a 1080 display then, I would so Note 2 hands down.

Get a quality BT headphone and you won't have to worry about how you look to other people...personally I really could give a rats behind how others think...but hey that's just me...
Nexus vs Note II...to me it all comes down to do you want the biggest best phone or a smaller phone that doesn't offer as much.
S-pen is there if you need it...and it's always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
ASOP...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616..it has a few minor glitches...but if this is your thing...then enjoy it.
Smoothness...drop this one in...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028661 add Nova launcher and tweak it...and your golden...
Memory card...your going to want one...just to fill up with all of the videos you'll be watching and music you'll be rocking to...
My advice...prop them both up side by side and watch any video on it...browse the internet..then ask yourself...which offers you what you want/need to enjoy it with
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Mac11700 said:
Get a quality BT headphone and you won't have to worry about how you look to other people...personally I really could give a rats behind how others think...but hey that's just me...
Nexus vs Note II...to me it all comes down to do you want the biggest best phone or a smaller phone that doesn't offer as much.
S-pen is there if you need it...and it's always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
ASOP...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046616..it has a few minor glitches...but if this is your thing...then enjoy it.
Smoothness...drop this one in...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028661 add Nova launcher and tweak it...and your golden...
Memory card...your going to want one...just to fill up with all of the videos you'll be watching and music you'll be rocking to...
My advice...prop them both up side by side and watch any video on it...browse the internet..then ask yourself...which offers you what you want/need to enjoy it with
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Mac,
No offense but I think your post is pretty bias.
- Yes, you can always bring a BT headset, but shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly? Also, how about the people that don't like bluetooth headset in general?
- S-Pen, yes, it's better to have but at what cost? Size of the phone?
- Touchwiz isn't without it's own glitches, whether AOSP or not is a pure preferences whether it has bugs or not. I actually find touchwiz works well with GN2, AOSP won't.
- Smoothness, sorry, Note 2 just isn't as smooth as a N4 no matter what launcher you put in. It could be due to settings, but out the box even with Nova, it's not there.
- Memory Card - why must he get one?
I do agree with Note 2 having better specs, but the cost is the size. If you can live with the size and Touchwiz, there isn't a reason not to get Note2....but only if you can live with the size.
Cheers.

cy88 said:
shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly?
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Caring about what other people think of you holding a phone to your face reeks of insecurity to me. "Looking Silly" is the last thing that would sway me from buying an excellent device.
Remember how small phones used to be ten years ago? It wasn't that long ago when people also thought 3.5" smartphones were huge.

cy88 said:
Mac,
No offense but I think your post is pretty bias.
- Yes, you can always bring a BT headset, but shouldn't you be able to hold a phone comfortably on your face instead of having to depend on a BT headset in order to not look silly? Also, how about the people that don't like bluetooth headset in general?
- S-Pen, yes, it's better to have but at what cost? Size of the phone?
- Touchwiz isn't without it's own glitches, whether AOSP or not is a pure preferences whether it has bugs or not. I actually find touchwiz works well with GN2, AOSP won't.
- Smoothness, sorry, Note 2 just isn't as smooth as a N4 no matter what launcher you put in. It could be due to settings, but out the box even with Nova, it's not there.
- Memory Card - why must he get one?
I do agree with Note 2 having better specs, but the cost is the size. If you can live with the size and Touchwiz, there isn't a reason not to get Note2....but only if you can live with the size.
Cheers.
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Cy8888, that's funny you said Mac's post was biased because that's exactly what I thought when I read your long post above.
Remember, the OP asked what people thought and the reply's have been, for the most part, just that. Almost every statement you made in your lengthy post was "your opinion", certainly not facts. For example, I use the S-Pen daily and love it's added benefit and it, in my opinion, is not a gimmick as you stated.
So, no need to call out another forum members post when he is doing the same as you...giving his opinion as requested by the OP.:angel:

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Cy8888, that's funny you said Mac's post was biased because that's exactly what I thought when I read your long post above.
Remember, the OP asked what people thought and the reply's have been, for the most part, just that. Almost every statement you made in your lengthy post was "your opinion", certainly not facts. For example, I use the S-Pen daily and love it's added benefit and it, in my opinion, is not a gimmick as you stated.
So, no need to call out another forum members post when he is doing the same as you...giving his opinion as requested by the OP.:angel:
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I was bias because I love/have the Note 2 so much but the size, right?
What I said: "S Pen -Unless you have a use for it, it's a gimmick." - You do, so it's not a gimmick for you for sure. I know a few people that do have a use for it and I am impressed with how they make use of it for work purposes.
Which other point of my post is pure bias? I simply listed out the things I from with using both devices, I never said one is better for another for everyone. However Mac did say that "you are GOING to want one", "BUGS with 4.2", etc etc to just praise the Note 2. OP is trying to make a decision, and words like that aren't going to make his choice easier is it?
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Caring about what other people think of you holding a phone to your face reeks of insecurity to me. "Looking Silly" is the last thing that would sway me from buying an excellent device.
Remember how small phones used to be ten years ago? It wasn't that long ago when people also thought 3.5" smartphones were huge.
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I might have worded it wrong, but the fact that it's bigger than normal does draw attention. Yes, you can choose not to care about anyone thinks at all, but there are some actually "dont" want to draw that type of attention with a device. It is a fact that Note 2 is humongous, and that's ALSO it's selling point. Unless you have a need and can live with the size, otherwise you might want to look at other alternatives like SGS3 (which i have one sitting here also if you want comparison) that offers something in the middle.
I apologize if I've rubbed anyone the wrong way, wasn't the intention.
Cheers!

Nexus 6 or Note 4??

I'm not sure where the right place is to put this question.
It's a real question for me, dominated by the fact that the specs look pretty similar (except no. Locked bootloader etx) , but the price will be significantly lower. Of. Course we don't have the facts yet, but I'm holding off until the nexus 6 announcement before pulling the trigger on one of them.
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This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity phablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
They are two extremely opposite phones.

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This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity tablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
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In every Note forum there are always a slew of people who obviously are consumption users that don't need/want/care about all the features that, to me, are what make a Note a "Note."
Here's an interesting survey...
Clearly 35% would be better off without S Pen and 40% wouldn't miss it terribly if it weren't there. For them, like OP, any big screened phone would do.
Here's the current supposed specs of the Nexus 6...
The Nexus 6 is all but a secret at this point with a multitude of leaks telling us everything we needed to know about the handset. The smartphone is expected to be packing a 5.9 inch Quad HD display, a 13-megapixel camera with OIS, 3GB of RAM, a Snapdragon 805 chipset, a refined version of Android L (Android 5.0) and a mammoth 3,300 mAh battery. It could be shown off sometime later this month, possibly during Halloween. Google announced the Nexus 5 quietly during Halloween last year, so there’s no reason why the trend shouldn’t continue this year.
http://thedroidguy.com/2014/10/motorola-nexus-6-hits-fcc-certification-98187#z8pV1eRuP2vkzxdm.97​It's pretty close to the Note 4. But... Google's camera's have always sucked, the display will most likely be decent but not fantastic, and battery life will probably be worse because, for some reason, Google has a hard time tuning battery usage on their own phones. Add to that it won't have expandable storage and most likely come in 32/64GB versions. Second but... The 32GB version will probably be $499-549 which undercuts the Note 3 by almost $300 which for those that could care less about S Pen and the faults I listed makes it a great value. That and it'll get updated directly from Google are its two biggest benefits over the Note 4.

My biggest issue so far in thinking about a Nexus 6 (or whatever it will be called) is the fact that Samsung/AT&T has been locking down the Note to the point where they void the warranty as soon as the knox is tripped.
That and the fact that the Note 2 is my third Samsung device and I want to try a different route.

They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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Sight unseen I'd bet anyone here the camera's worse, the display not as good, and the battery life poorer. Those traits are more or less "Nexus things" unless something changes this round. Now whether this time with Motorola it's different is a wild card. But there were a ton of issues with the first Moto X when it came out (I don't know if they all got resolved, I don't follow Motorola). And a potentially huge not "the same" is the lack of external storage. Want to show off full res vids on that spiffy new QHD display? You better have a 128GB external MicroSD, be on an old AT&T unlimited plan, or get on the "pay for 15GB, get 30GB" plan before it expires. I'm not bashing the Nexus 6 (especially because you can't bash vapor ) just saying they've never been the "same." Where they win hands down is value and that probably won't change this round.

ekerbuddyeker said:
They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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Stock Android and Touchwiz are the same? I'm sorry, but I don't agree. At all.
IMO, the two devices can't be more different.

I'm not such a fan of touchwiz and the bells and whistles, that's all. And I usually load up a different launcher in any case. The decision for me will be based on the quality of the screen (which to be realistic, is probably a Samsung win...). I guess we will see.
By the way since my Note 1, I have bought and returned so many devices which the Samsung Note beat out for me. Same on note 2 and Note 3 (the last one being the g3). The Note has won every time. So far...
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ekerbuddyeker said:
I'm not such a fan of touchwiz and the bells and whistles, that's all. And I usually load up a different launcher in any case. The decision for me will be based on the quality of the screen (which to be realistic, is probably a Samsung win...). I guess we will see.
By the way since my Note 1, I have bought and returned so many devices which the Samsung Note beat out for me. Same on note 2 and Note 3 (the last one being the g3). The Note has won every time. So far...
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Yeah bro, I can almost bet anything that the Note 4 screen will kill the Nexus 6 screen. Not only are Nexus screens of lower quality compared to the competition (to cut costs), but it will also most likely be a LCD. Which I don't like compared to SAMOLED anyway.
I'm curious to see which direction you go, but the Note 4 is a killer package. I have played with it a few times at my local Best Buy.
Good luck!

I have gone into so many best buys to try out the Note 4 and I think it's lovely. ( I wouldn't buy the edge as I think it will be difficult to sell 2nd hand down the road.) But sometimes I need a change (and frankly the 4 is not that different to my Note 3). I'm sure I will buy both... But, Highlander, there can be only one (and as I mentioned above Sammy has won every other battle)...
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity phablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
They are two extremely opposite phones.
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DING DING DING. We have a winner!
It is puzzling to me that people are asking about Moto X and crap vs. a Note 4.
The Note 4 is an S pen enhanced phablet, half the questions are about plain old stock large screen phones. Different audience for the most part. I imagine there are people that will buy the Note 4 just for the size and never touch the things that make it what it is.

Go see nexus 6 section as there is a great discussion on Note 4 v Nexus 6
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Is it worth to upgrade S7 edge to Note7?

Hello guys!
I am on xda forum after a very long time. Needs some guidance. I am big fan of note series but now using S7 edge. I am very happy with it but missing S pen. Took S7 edge two months ago. Should I go for an upgrade to note 7 or not?
Thanks in advance
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They're the same phone, just ones a bit bigger with a pen. Do you want that? then yes get it.
Simples. =)
FYI im in much the same boat, have the S7 Edge, but want the Note 7. I shouldn't, it isn't worth it, but I want it, so i likely will.

I dont think it is. Same phone except for bigger screen. Plus now edge 7 has root. If the note has root on release maybe id change my mind.

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They're the same phone, just ones a bit bigger with a pen. Do you want that? then yes get it.
Simples. =)
FYI im in much the same boat, have the S7 Edge, but want the Note 7. I shouldn't, it isn't worth it, but I want it, so i likely will.
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Same here! Feel bad though. Had S7Edge when it first came out. Now want Note 7. When will it end! Only just bought this one!
But I know I will buy it anyway!
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During presentation they said something about a graphical chip "mdli" or something similar... (cant remember and it drives me crazy)... is that specific only to Note7 or also to be found on S7.
What about the HDR capability for watching videos? Secure folder? Samsung cloud? are any of this present on S7? I have Note4 and i refused to upgrade because non replaceable battery... i want to upgrade but... that's like 70% important to me
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I dont think it is. Same phone except for bigger screen. Plus now edge 7 has root. If the note has root on release maybe id change my mind.
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The root is bugy as hell. I've tried many different things to change that and it was still buggy. Engroot is not the same as other root methods.

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The root is bugy as hell. I've tried many different things to change that and it was still buggy. Engroot is not the same as other root methods.
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I got mine working decently. For now its better than nothing

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I got mine working decently. For now its better than nothing
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Diaconescu_Tiberiu said:
During presentation they said something about a graphical chip "mdli" or something similar... (cant remember and it drives me crazy)... is that specific only to Note7 or also to be found on S7.
What about the HDR capability for watching videos? Secure folder? Samsung cloud? are any of this present on S7? I have Note4 and i refused to upgrade because non replaceable battery... i want to upgrade but... that's like 70% important to me
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The mDNIE image processor is unique to the Note 7, and I'm guessing some of that is to handle processing of HDR video. Not sure we'll see that on the regular s7 & S7 Edge.
As for Secure Cloud/folders and such, that is something I could see with an update to the Knox suite.
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How important the image processor would be for next 2 years? (assuming next buy will be when my GSM contract expires)
As i understand content needs to be adapted for this. Samsung's representative said Amazon will offer such content and probably others in the future. It does seem HDR is proprietary... will video content makers adopt it? Does it improve the HD content scene?
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I got mine working decently. For now its better than nothing
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Hey guys what do you mean by working decently?
I need to be able to root and Note 7 will not be root able for now.
I think S7 could be a choice I can give up my S-pen for root.

I am upgrading from the S7E, because I can.

We can too but is it worth it that is the question. With Sprint update I onky pay 300 dollars but I dont think is worth it without root. From my perspective going from a root note 3 to a non root note 7 is a downgrade.

It is not an upgrade if battery life is worse.
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I'm on T-Mobile Jump On Demand and I demanded it a few days ago. I also have loved having a spare battery but starting with the LG V10, and now the S7 Edge, my use no longer demands an always available spare battery. I've had the S7E since March and I've never had a completely drained phone. It was the expanded storage that brought me back to Samsung. Discovering UHQ bluetooth 24\192, to make use of the portable music library was just the cherry on the cake for me to never regret that purchase and now the new Note.

I'm going for it. Only because I got the BOGO deal for my S7E and sold the first one I got. I gave my current edge to my brother for $200 so I'm pretty much covered on the cost for the Note 7 anyways, cruising on an S5 until the phone is released. I'm honestly just interested in it for the IRIS scanner, and the S-Pen and Type-C port. Basically niche features that I enjoy experiencing. So yeah, it's not costing me anything out of pocket but if I were you, I probably would keep the S7E for now until the Note 8 comes out because they are literally the same spec phones as for internals.

Is it worth it to upgrade from s6 edge+? Using it for 7 months now.

Diaconescu_Tiberiu said:
During presentation they said something about a graphical chip "mdli" or something similar... (cant remember and it drives me crazy)... is that specific only to Note7 or also to be found on S7.
What about the HDR capability for watching videos? Secure folder? Samsung cloud? are any of this present on S7? I have Note4 and i refused to upgrade because non replaceable battery... i want to upgrade but... that's like 70% important to me
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So I guess you will forever stay with note 4...Everything comes without removable now
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Iris scanner, secure folder, better camera UI, better battery saving mode, spen suite, preorder gifts, bragging rights. I say go for it!
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oxidil said:
Hello guys!
I am on xda forum after a very long time. Needs some guidance. I am big fan of note series but now using S7 edge. I am very happy with it but missing S pen. Took S7 edge two months ago. Should I go for an upgrade to note 7 or not?
Thanks in advance
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Other than the Spen and a slightly bigger screen and some small semi gimmicky items they are real close.
Its the tamer edge screen that sold me on the note and kept me away from the S6/S7v edge devices....i hate the edge screen lol.
If your missing the Spen than yeah I guess its worth it though.
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Note 7 or One Plus 3???

Soooooo, I have the new Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and with news of the recall it has me thinking... I have noticed some serious real life performance issues with simple task on my note 7. Scrolling is laggy, keyboard is too. Apps take a while to open (simple apps like text or even phone calls). I don't know if it will be fixed down the road or not.
I have seen the OnePlus 3 and it has me thinking that I should turn in the note 7 and make the switch. My biggest reservation is that there is no expandable storage.
I would like to get some XDA input on the note 7 vs the One Plus 3. Just not sure what route I should take!
Any input is very much appreciated.
Thanks!

I don't see any lag on my note 7. It's very rare
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OneEternalRound said:
Soooooo, I have the new Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and with news of the recall it has me thinking... I have noticed some serious real life performance issues with simple task on my note 7. Scrolling is laggy, keyboard is too. Apps take a while to open (simple apps like text or even phone calls). I don't know if it will be fixed down the road or not.
I have seen the OnePlus 3 and it has me thinking that I should turn in the note 7 and make the switch. My biggest reservation is that there is no expandable storage.
I would like to get some XDA input on the note 7 vs the One Plus 3. Just not sure what route I should take!
Any input is very much appreciated.
Thanks!
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Lag could be a result from battery problems. My N7 works even better than S7edge. I will chose a replacement for note 7 with note 7 anytime
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You should have added ZTE Axon 7.
for 450 EUR (vs 850 EUR for Note 7), Axon 7 is a real competitor.
don't forget that, although all 3 devices have AMOLED screens,
only Note 7 and Axon 7 are QHD;
Oneplus 3 has low FHD resolution.

lisbon2004 said:
You should have added ZTE Axon 7.
for 450 EUR (vs 850 EUR for Note 7), Axon 7 is a real competitor.
don't forget that, although all 3 devices have AMOLED screens,
only Note 7 and Axon 7 are QHD;
Oneplus 3 has low FHD resolution.
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Remind me, I forget, what other mobile has the S-pen? one gets what one pays for and those less expensive mobiles will serve their customers very well. What you totally fail to realise is the Note 7 is NOT a bog standard flagship mobile. Its aimed at high end users who will make use of the S-pen, 64GB internal memory and a possible 256GB expandable memory to name just a couple of the Note7's basic characteristics.
Ryland

LOL there's no comparison, one is a mid range bog standard phone and one is top quality premium computing device.
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I think many chose the note 7 as a complete pack, some for the s pen, some one posted that it would be like comparing cars, there are cheap well equiped fast cars, that do tje job very very well, but then the premium ones that cost much more and have similar characteristics, but much better looks and feel, and yes, some litle things not found in cheaper ones, so, at the end, it is a matter of taste, if you can afford what you really like an desire

winol said:
I think many chose the note 7 as a complete pack, some for the s pen, some one posted that it would be like comparing cars, there are cheap well equiped fast cars, that do tje job very very well, but then the premium ones that cost much more and have similar characteristics, but much better looks and feel, and yes, some litle things not found in cheaper ones, so, at the end, it is a matter of taste, if you can afford what you really like an desire
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I m very dissapointed, with the Note 7!!! A big big flop.. and i dont care either for the exploding battery, nor the scratches! I cant believe that after 5-6 years owning a Note, they did not yet managed to eliminate the lag and shutter on the newest.. every year the same Samsung [email protected]
Im going down the OnePlus 3 lane, after trying both of them.. i shared my experience here..
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/26...op-and-why-you-should-buy-a-oneplus3-instead/

I was thinking about getting the OP3 as opposed to the Note 7. But I realized that the OP3 wasn't going to offer me anything new. In fact, it would have offered me less (other than savings in money) considering I was coming off my S7 Edge.
I knew that the OP3 was going to be a temporary workhorse. Rooted, **** ton of roms, then I'd get tired of it after like month 3 then I would end up getting the newest Google device, while regretting not buying the Note 7 yet. Note 7 just has everything that can last me a legitimate year. Expandable storage, fast charging, multi window which i actually utilize every day, s-pen which i actually use many times throughout the day.
Sure, the price is up there. But this note 7 is a long term phone.

I have owned both phones. While I had the op3 since release and the note 7 for less than a month, I have to say the note 7 is auch better phone. I don't really need root, and didn't flash custom ROM on the op3. I used both android pay on the op3 and samsung pay on the note 7 daily and samsung pay is much more convenient. The op3 display isn't bad but the note 7 is noticeable better. I find battery life to be a bit better on the note 7. Both phone got me through a full day with moderate to heavy use but the not tends to have more battery at the end of the day. Dash charge was very convenient on the op3 and it did seem to charge much faster than note 7 (I don't use wireless charging). OxygenOS was a tad better than TouchWiz in terms of less manufacturer bloat, but it's not a deal breaker for me. I don't know if I will keep the note 7 after the new Pixel devices are announced but if I do I can see myself keeping the note 7 for 2 years.

blitzkrieg19 said:
I m very dissapointed, with the Note 7!!! A big big flop.. and i dont care either for the exploding battery, nor the scratches! I cant believe that after 5-6 years owning a Note, they did not yet managed to eliminate the lag and shutter on the newest.. every year the same Samsung [email protected]
Im going down the OnePlus 3 lane, after trying both of them.. i shared my experience here..
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/26...op-and-why-you-should-buy-a-oneplus3-instead/
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Are you using the SD820 version? Because they Exynos flys with no lag or stutter.

Batfink33 said:
Are you using the SD820 version? Because they Exynos flys with no lag or stutter.
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I'm thinking about switching to the Exynos version. My carrier is letting me return the SD version because of the recall and I'm thinking might buy an unlocked Exynos version since this one lags.

acheney1990 said:
I'm thinking about switching to the Exynos version. My carrier is letting me return the SD version because of the recall and I'm thinking might buy an unlocked Exynos version since this one lags.
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I have very little or zero lag or stutter on my Exynos. It's the smoothest Touchwiz phone I've ever used.

I have the exynos model, I have no complaints, very smooth, no lags, I had note 4, and it had many shortcomings, I am real happy with my exynos note7

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Are you using the SD820 version? Because they Exynos flys with no lag or stutter.
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Yep sadly the Snapdragon.. every year the same [email protected] On my Note 4, i couldnt also believe the difference between the Exynos and the SD, but when i swapped for the Exynos, i was amazed!
Sadly getting an Exynos here in Greece, is kinda difficult @ the moment. Its sad to see Samsung repeating every year the same mistake. Bad memory management, bloated etc..

I also have the Snapdragon. Would It be possible to get it switched when I return it? I thought Exynos was only certain areas?? Never heard of it being in USA..
blitzkrieg19 said:
Yep sadly the Snapdragon.. every year the same [email protected] On my Note 4, i couldnt also believe the difference between the Exynos and the SD, but when i swapped for the Exynos, i was amazed!
Sadly getting an Exynos here in Greece, is kinda difficult @ the moment. Its sad to see Samsung repeating every year the same mistake. Bad memory management, bloated etc..
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I originally bought the SD820 version from AT&T in the US. It was slow, lagged so badly, had terrible battery life and I ended up returning it. I replaced it with the G930FD Exynos version and it is a night and day difference!! The Exynos version is so much faster, smoother, the battery life is probably double and I love it. Food for thought.

THATTON said:
I originally bought the SD820 version from AT&T in the US. It was slow, lagged so badly, had terrible battery life and I ended up returning it. I replaced it with the G930FD Exynos version and it is a night and day difference!! The Exynos version is so much faster, smoother, the battery life is probably double and I love it. Food for thought.
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Wow! That's good to know. So they had an option at AT&T for the Exynos version?? Or you purchased online elsewhere?

OneEternalRound said:
Wow! That's good to know. So they had an option at AT&T for the Exynos version?? Or you purchased online elsewhere?
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Online elsewhere.

THATTON said:
Online elsewhere.
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Looks like this might be my best bet! Thanks for the help.

Would you buy next years Samsung Phones without the S-Pen?

Ok, here's the deal. The reason I purchased the Note 7 was the S-Pen. All the other features like VR came along nicely, but to be frank, the real incentive for me was the Pen. Without it, I wouldn't give so much money for a phone. 4k VR? Rather wait for any other cheaper phone to catch up to 4k VR like maybe the google pixel or one plus 5 or something...
Since we are in the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 forums and not the S7 or S7 Edge forums, it means that you guys reading this opted to wait a few months to get the Note 7 specifically instead the S7 or S7 Edge. So, I figured that maybe these guys here are also hooked on the S Pen.
Thus the following question...
Let say that next years Samsung Flagship Big Screen Phones have no S-Pen... Would you still buy one?
Don't forget to vote!

nomailx said:
Ok, here's the deal. The reason I purchased the Note 7 was the S-Pen. All the other features like VR came along nicely, but to be frank, the real incentive for me was the Pen. Without it, I wouldn't give so much money for a phone. 4k VR? Rather wait for any other cheaper phone to catch up to 4k VR like maybe the google pixel or one plus 5 or something...
Since we are in the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 forums and not the S7 or S7 Edge forums, it means that you guys reading this opted to wait a few months to get the Note 7 specifically instead the S7 or S7 Edge. So, I figured that maybe these guys here are also hooked on the S Pen.
Thus the following question...
Let say that next years Samsung Flagship Big Screen Phones have no S-Pen... Would you still buy one?
Don't forget to vote!
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I probably would
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No
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No. I need the S-pen
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No. If I didn't care for the s pen that much I would of replaced my Note7 a long time ago.

Knowing myself, I may end up with it... that said, a Note without pen would be a bit useless, it's one of their main selling points, so I don't see why they would ever do that.

svache said:
Knowing myself, I may end up with it... that said, a Note without pen would be a bit useless, it's one of their main selling points, so I don't see why they would ever do that.
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Yea. The pen wasn't the issue with the Note 7s. But just saying I think people are curious if that's a do or don't cutoff point for some people. I thought I'd have a lot of issues with this s7 edge after being an avid note user the past few years. I've been fine actually. Now, of course I'd love a pen again but for now this works.
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For sure. It's why I'm back to Note 5. There is no way to effectively take lengthy notes during meetings for me. I tried using deterrent capacitive styli, but it just didn't work.
I'm hooked on my s-pen. I will say at least the Note 7 tips feel really nice in my Note 5 stylus.

No

I don't use the S-Pen all that much actually. So the next Samsung phone without the stylus is definitely an option.
That said, I'm also not a Samsung loyalist. I've had my hands on several smartphone brands, starting with HTC, Motorola, Xiaomi and Sony. And I've never gave LG a go, so I'm getting the V20 next.
I just won't get an Apple. Android's flexibility in file management is just too damn good for me to use iPhone as my daily driver.

no, I want the pen and slightly bigger screen without the useless curves.

If it was at least 5.7 screen, IP68 and coral blue then yes, reluctantly. Would greatly prefer it with the s-pen.

I'm not buying the s8 without an s pen. There are too many good and cheaper alternatives. The OnePlus3, the up coming Mate9, why spend lots on phones that have no major differentiator (which the note series was).

Without S-pen, I would look elsewhere. Many a phone out there without the premium pricing and good specs.

No
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I'm not quite sure why anyone would pay for a note and NOT get the stylus it is the biggest factor that separates the Note from the S series.
The answer is no; if there is never another stylus phone (very unlikely) I will probably stick to LG. Removable battery and external memory on every model? Yes please. Allows me to get batteries beyond factory capacities.
Removable battery means no planned obsolescence (which is exactly why manufacturers put in the non removable design to push you to upgrade when the battery dies).
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