Plastic Inserts - Moto 360

So the plastic connectors are supposed to come with the watch bands, however mine did not. Store wouldn't take it back and Moto is claiming I can't get the plastic inserts because the warranty on my Watch, yes my watch is over. Let me run that by you again. I purchased a product that was sent to me incomplete and they won't fix it because I purchased a different product from them at an early time.
So since Motorola is refusing to properly support and ship their products how in the world do I get those plastic inserts?
My assumption was that the Moto 360 needed special watch bands and they would be made FOR the 360. Instead they included a normal everyday metal watch band and no way to attach it.

The plastic inserts crack and break anyway. Followed by the inevitable cracking of the back of the watch. Motorola support are hopeless.

using a rubber protector. it's fine. a little ugly though coz it catches fiber and a little dirt. But it protects it.

I'm a bit late to the discussion but I've had a cheap (£10) metal band from amazon on my watch for about a year with no adverse effects. If you are worried about it, you might be able to make yourself some sort of protection with Sugru (Blu-tac like stuff that hardens into rubber).

Thanks but it's not about protecting my watch, but I actually cant use any metal bands on the watch because they wont fit without the plastic inserts. I followed their advice about sending my watch in for repairs as they said thats the only way to get them, but they said my warranty is expired and are now trying to charge my $50 USD for sending the watch back with nothing done to it.

You don't need the plastic inserts; why do you think you do?

Spott07 said:
You don't need the plastic inserts; why do you think you do?
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How do you attach metal watch bands then? They just loosely flop around if the insert is not there.

Any band that is the correct width and square on the end, that is, any band that does not have a stepped-down, reduced-width end, will fill the space without any gap on the sides. This is how the OEM leather bands are attached.
You only need the plastic inserts if you use the OEM metal bands. If you get a 3rd party metal band (or any other material) you don't need the inserts at all, in fact, the inserts would get in the way and have to be removed.
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Spott07 said:
Any band that is the correct width and square on the end, that is, any band that does not have a stepped-down, reduced-width end, will fill the space without any gap on the sides. This is how the OEM leather bands are attached.
You only need the plastic inserts if you use the OEM metal bands. If you get a 3rd party metal band (or any other material) you don't need the inserts at all, in fact, the inserts would get in the way and have to be removed.
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That's the entire problem though. These ARE OEM Metal bands. They don't come with the inserts though so you can't install them.

anyone found any plastic inserts? I've got a 1st gen Moto 360 and I really don't want to have to replace the watch or band for a few plastic pieces worth a couple of cents! I'd by a case of 100 inserts if they were available!

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[Q] Plastic connector coming with the official separate metal bands for moto 360?

Hi!
I am wondering if the plastic "protector" comes with the official separate metal bands for $80?
The plastic "protector" is included with the new metal moto 360 models, but I'm not sure if it's only them or if they are being sold with the separate metal bands $80 at att.com aswell..
Why do I want to know? Well... I visited the watchmaker, he doesn't want to put on a custom metal band because "it will crack without some kind of protection". I believe him because thats probably why motorola added the plastic protector on their official 22" metal moto 360 editions. Also I wanted a more narrow band since I am thin - can only do that if I get a hold of the plastic protector for the 18 inch thinner metal bands that are not released yet
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anyone who bought it and can answer?
We will once we receive them... Dec 5 was the availability date at the time of ordering, and that was the first hour they were posted on Moto's site.
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Wait can the protector be brought separate or its only for the newer models?
Yes the plastic protectors are included with the official metal bands. I just picked up the band replacement kit during lunch today at my local best buy.
Cool... Not sold separately?
Not from what I have seen.. They do make the fit of the new metal band to be very snug against the watch itself.
I bought one of the Kriesler bands. They do NOT come with the plastic piece. Shame. They do look great however. If you have very large hands like mine, I only had to take out one link to let it get over my hand.
I can confirm that the OEM metal bands come with the plastic spacers, same as the metal band Moto 360's
Just had an online chat with Motorola support. I'll give an update about buying the spacer separately, when they get back to me.
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Just had an online chat with Motorola support. I'll give an update about buying the spacer separately, when they get back to me.
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Just a heads up - if you're looking to use them with non-Moto bands, I'm not sure it's going to work.
The Moto bands slide into two slots on the plastic connectors for a snug fit. Other bands are solid all the way across - if you were to take off their connector, the links would have to be the same size as the Moto bands.
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Just a heads up - if you're looking to use them with non-Moto bands, I'm not sure it's going to work.
The Moto bands slide into two slots on the plastic connectors for a snug fit. Other bands are solid all the way across - if you were to take off their connector, the links would have to be the same size as the Moto bands.
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I know the Pebble Steel metal band fits on the moto 360( it has the right fitting, its not full), but can someone tell me the spacer for the original metal band fits the pebble steel one? Or has someone found a way to get an other spacer?
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I know the Pebble Steel metal band fits on the moto 360( it has the right fitting, its not full), but can someone tell me the spacer for the original metal band fits the pebble steel one? Or has someone found a way to get an other spacer?
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The Pebble Steel Band does not fit in the plastic spacer provided with the Official Motorola Metal band.
I have a replacement watch arriving today, which will require me to move the official metal band from one watch to the other and I will take a photo to show you all what I am talking about.
Just ordered the official metal band from Motorola site today. Does anyone know if the included plastic spacers will prevent the back of the watch from cracking? I have read of so many people who have cracked the back of there 360 even with the stock leather bands. Can someone who has already gotten the metal bands from Motorola confirm that the spacers relieve the pressure against the back of the watch.
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Just ordered the official metal band from Motorola site today. Does anyone know if the included plastic spacers will prevent the back of the watch from cracking? I have read of so many people who have cracked the back of there 360 even with the stock leather bands. Can someone who has already gotten the metal bands from Motorola confirm that the spacers relieve the pressure against the back of the watch.
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They do.
There has been one photo showing the plastic spacer breaking from the stress, but I've had mine for a week and the spacer is fine. It's been too small a sample size to say the back won't crack but just a few days in I'm feeling much better about it.
The watch is much heavier now, though.
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They do.
There has been one photo showing the plastic spacer breaking from the stress, but I've had mine for a week and the spacer is fine. It's been too small a sample size to say the back won't crack but just a few days in I'm feeling much better about it.
The watch is much heavier now, though.
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Thanks for the info, so the band is definitely a higher quality then say the pebble steel bands?
AndroiderM said:
Thanks for the info, so the band is definitely a higher quality then say the pebble steel bands?
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Definitely. Both in looks (it's thicker and shinier with a color that is the same as the 360) and material weight. It's heavier than the Pebble Band.
I know a number of people will say that they can get the same thing for less, but if you've purchased watch bands before, you'll find this one to be of a solid quality.
Whether or not it's worth $80 will be up to each individual, but for me it's worth it if it stops the back from cracking because of the spacer..
Dkouyou said:
I know the Pebble Steel metal band fits on the moto 360( it has the right fitting, its not full), but can someone tell me the spacer for the original metal band fits the pebble steel one? Or has someone found a way to get an other spacer?
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Here are some photos to show you what I'm talking about. That spacer seems to be tailor made for the Moto band in how it slots in:
Had the leather band, and there were no cracks when i swapped to the Motorola metal band. 1 week later and there's a tiny crack starting in the corner. I'm going to just live with it and see how much it grows.

New replacement band

Hi,
Wish to share this for people who contemplate replacing the original brown band:
I just replaced it with a black leather band with off-white stitches, and also managed to keep the original Asus metal clap!
It looks just great, and I'm very happy with it
Some pics attached.
look very nice...
Looks great! Curious how you got the Asus clamp on a generic watchband... That's exactly what I'd want to do. Did you cut one end or something like that?
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Looks great! Curious how you got the Asus clamp on a generic watchband... That's exactly what I'd want to do. Did you cut one end or something like that?
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That's the beauty of it didn't need to cut anything on either bands!
It detaches easily out of the original band by pulling the clamp connector pin, and found several bands that I could just slide the Asus clamp on as-is. It attaches into one of the existing holes. I did widen the hole in the black band just a bit to get it in there all the way.
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That's the beauty of it didn't need to cut anything on either bands!
It detaches easily out of the original band by pulling the clamp connector pin, and found several bands that I could just slide the Asus clamp on as-is. It attaches into one of the existing holes. I did widen the hole in the black band just a bit to get it in there all the way.
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I know you have to just pull the connector pin out but on the new band, it must be a specific type leather band that accepts that connector pin on the one end right? Can't just be a generic leather band with a buckle... Correct?
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I know you have to just pull the connector pin out but on the new band, it must be a specific type leather band that accepts that connector pin on the one end right? Can't just be a generic leather band with a buckle... Correct?
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It is just a generic band with a buckle. Only replaced its buckle with the Asus clip as described
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It is just a generic band with a buckle. Only replaced its buckle with the Asus clip as described
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I guess I just wasn't aware the buckle on a generic band could come off easily without cutting it off. Good to know though! Thanks for the info.
This was great....I really like the buckle and this was so simple.
Great job, well done - I was hoping somebody would post with a black band - looks nice.
From what I understand of after-market bands and clasps is that a lot of buckles are attached with a similar pin that attaches the band to the watch. Pop that off and you can fit a deployment clasp (like the Asus one here).
The clasps - of which there seem to be quite a few out there - come in various widths to accommodate the tapering of the band from watch to buckle (usually about 2mm thinner at the buckle end, but YMMV). So, a 22mm band might require a 20mm deployment clasp or buckle.
I don't suppose you could post a measurement of how wide that strap is at the buckle end, could you? Or, the inner-width of the clasp? That way we can buy online bands and be fairly certain that the Asus clasp can still be used.
I know I'll need a different strap when it's available in the UK, just toying whether to get a new clasp too.
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Great job, well done - I was hoping somebody would post with a black band - looks nice.
From what I understand of after-market bands and clasps is that a lot of buckles are attached with a similar pin that attaches the band to the watch. Pop that off and you can fit a deployment clasp (like the Asus one here).
The clasps - of which there seem to be quite a few out there - come in various widths to accommodate the tapering of the band from watch to buckle (usually about 2mm thinner at the buckle end, but YMMV). So, a 22mm band might require a 20mm deployment clasp or buckle.
I don't suppose you could post a measurement of how wide that strap is at the buckle end, could you? Or, the inner-width of the clasp? That way we can buy online bands and be fairly certain that the Asus clasp can still be used.
I know I'll need a different strap when it's available in the UK, just toying whether to get a new clasp too.
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Sure - The strap width is 18mm (also of the original band). The inner width of the clasp is 2-3mm wider.
I would recommend in this case to just step into a local shop, and pick something that fits. If you do order online be sure it also includes the spring connector pins that hook to the phone body. The original ones are not easy to interchange because they have a special release hook that sticks out.
Dang, I thought I did this first I did mine about a week ago, just didnt get around to posting images. Yours looks better since you used a band that tapered. Mine didnt (some cheap walmart band) so I had to cut tiny nothces on the latch side.
Can you link us to where you got your band?
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Sure - The strap width is 18mm (also of the original band). The inner width of the clasp is 2-3mm wider.
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Thanks for that. For clarification, the band tapers from 22mm at the watch end to 18mm at the buckle on the original band, yes?
I'll try shopping locally, but there's not so much around where I live. I had thought about the spring clips, since they've got that quick removal lever, which wouldn't transfer. At the very least, I know a different deployment clasp can be used so it's not the end of the world.
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Dang, I thought I did this first I did mine about a week ago, just didnt get around to posting images. Yours looks better since you used a band that tapered. Mine didnt (some cheap walmart band) so I had to cut tiny nothces on the latch side.
Can you link us to where you got your band?
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Very nice!
(I live abroad, and got the band at a small local merchant)
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Thanks for that. For clarification, the band tapers from 22mm at the watch end to 18mm at the buckle on the original band, yes?
I'll try shopping locally, but there's not so much around where I live. I had thought about the spring clips, since they've got that quick removal lever, which wouldn't transfer. At the very least, I know a different deployment clasp can be used so it's not the end of the world.
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Yes thats correct
Here is another band with Asus clasp. Swiss Army Style.
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Here is another band with Asus clasp. Swiss Army Style.
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I like this one. Any link to site?
I bought it from amazon eBay also sells it.
22mm Brown Genuine Oil Tan Leather & Canvas Hadley Roma Watch Band Strap MS868
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G4F2XG4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1417302153&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX200_QL40
Anyone replace with metal band?
And how it look?
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Anyone replace with metal band?
And how it look?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenwatch/general/alternative-straps-asus-zenwatch-t2943141
A couple of posts down.
@adiror May I ask where your bought that strap? Thanks.

NFC Does Not Work with case on

I got a Spigen Slim case for my plastic back LG G4 right when they began shipping here in the States. Its more like a half case since it only attaches to two sides of the phones body. It's also very thin.
I also attached a car mount to the back of the case, which is magnetic. At the time, no stores in my area were accepting Android Pay (Apple had not yet invented it).
A couple of months ago, at least one store began accepting it. It works fine, except I noticed I have to remove my case in order for the store reader to pick up the signal. Now, the case has an area on the inside that appears to me to be where one might attach one of those wireless charging stickers.
So my question: is it likely the case that's preventing the NFC signal from reaching the reader, or the magnet?
If it's the case, is there something I can get to make this work through the case like one of those charging stickers?
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No responses means either this has been asked dozens of times or nobody knows. I'm guessing it's the magnetic car holder. Guess I'll have to pry it off and test my theory.
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I have the Spiegen Slim Case on my Verizon G4 and NFC and Wireless Charging both work fine with the case on.
My bet would be the magnetic car holder as well.
NFC works for me with both my Diztronic TPU case and my Seidio Dilex Pro case.
Thanks. I'll remove it and follow up next week. Hate to lose the holder though. Probably the easiest and best one I've ever used.
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Best Milanese Huawei Watch Band Hands Down!

I originally purchased the Huawei Watch with black leather as I prefer leather bands to metal. All I ever really knew for metal watch bands was the normal steel links, which to me are heavy and rip the hairs out of my wrist. Not exactly something I would like to wear all day long. I have been curious about the Milanese style bands since I seen them advertised by Apple for the Apple Watch. Anyways, I started browsing Amazon to see what was on offer for the Huawei Watch. There are two styles as far as I can see. Milanese bands with a "clamp" style latch and a Milanese band that loops through with a magnetic "latch". I definitely was more attracted to the magnetic style band so I figured I would order it up and give it a go. The only thing I was worried about was the magnet being too weak and coming loose throughout the day, which is not the case at all. It also comes with the quick release style pins, so no tools are needed.
Needless to say, I love it! It makes the Huawei Watch look very sharp and unique in my opinion. It is very comfortable and provides a perfect fit due to the way it "latches". I am pretty sure it would provide a perfect fit for any wrist. It fits the watch so well that it appears as if it were made by the watch manufacture itself. Ever since I have swapped the leather band for the Milanese, I have had quite a few different people ask me about it and wondering "what kind of watch is that?". Also, if you compare it to the other Milanese Bands on Amazon, this one "fits" better. The band itself is slightly wider than the part that attaches to the watch / the part the pin goes through. This is how the original Huawei Watch bands are as well.
They are available in stainless steel, black, and rose gold. The stainless steel matches the standard Huawei Watch perfectly! The part that attaches to the lugs is a "brushed" finish like the sides of the Huawei Watch and not a glossy finish like the face. I actually prefer this, as it will not scratch nearly as easy. I am sure the black would match the black just fine as well. They were $17.99 when I purchased, but they are now $23.99. Still, worth every penny! I guess you could always go pay $129.99 + tax for the Huawei official Milanese band, which has an inferior clasping mechanism in my opinion.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0178KWW3C?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
Very cool. I've been interested in this style since I first saw the Apple version. I've looked online but all the ones I've found were using clips to latch. The magnetic band is very cool. I ordered one to give it a shot.
I would love to see some actual pictures of it on your wrist.
Can you post some pictures of the band on your watch?
Thanks for sharing! I have been searching some 2 months ago and could not find a magnetic loop band back then. I immediately ordered this band for HuaweI Watch and also for Apple iWatch and Gear S2 Classic... (Yesoo sells for all those watches!!)
I have a similar band by Hoco...black melanese mesh with magnetic clasp....couldn't recommend it enough! https://plus.google.com/111656357014042389917/posts/ePHuhxVeRpg - photo
I just received this very same band last week and love it! After purchasing a very similar 3rd party band for my wife's Apple watch, I thought this would be a great option for the Huawei watch and am very pleased. The magnetic clasp allows you to adjust for a near perfect fit on your wrist. This also has quick change pins, so it's very easy to swap back and forth between this and the original Huawei leather band when you want a different look. The only negative I've found so far is that the hair on my wrist gets snagged in the magnetic clasp if it's not aligned to the band perfectly.
Also bought it
I also bought one. The only thing I don't like are that some of the links stick up a little on mine near where the mesh is joined to the solid metal parts (You only notice if you look closely and from the right angle, though), and also the metal is slightly darker than the watch case.
Overall though, I'm pleased, especially considering I paid under $20 for it.
I can confirm. This is definitely the best band for this watch. I was thinking the magnetic band would come off, or the links would be messed up, but everything is perfect. As soon as I put it on I got a lot of complements about my watch. Too bad nobody know what a Huawei Watch is around where I live. They always give me a blank stare like I just spoke some foreign language.
I have both the clasp variant mesh band and this magnetic variant mesh band. The magnet is nice and easy to use, and it's very strong too, but the quality of the mesh is much higher on the clasp mesh band. Slightly thicker and feels sturdier, plus it's pretty much a 90% exact stock mesh band replica.
Sorry, I didn't even think to post pics. I will post some later today.
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Sorry, I didn't even think to post pics. I will post some later today.
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Isn't that a given? :silly: I'm curious to see how it looks compared to the Huawei one that I have.
Here are some pics. I am no photographer and the only camera I have is the one on my Nexus 6.
http://i.imgur.com/MgouCHa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/myky5CI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/s5dPdoI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8VxT00E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XPPNp4s.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fNokQFp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cxAN4fD.jpg
Sorry, I still can't figure out how to get pics to post directly on my comments. Why can't all forums be like overclock.net and many others and have integrated photo uploads? Where when you go to post a pic, you just upload it directly from your computer and not have to use some third party site and post links... so annoying.
I have the hoco milances magnetic clasp band in stainless steel and I also really like it. My only complaint is that the magnetic clasp slips when I am doing any kind of physical work. I am a social worker my day but in the weekend I like dyi projects around the house. The watch slipping lose sometime is annoying. But over all the w a huawei watch looks great with this band.
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I ordered this and have been using it for a few days.
The Magnetic band does come loose over time. I've had to tighten it a few times throughout the day.
I think I want to exchange mine because the magnetic clasp piece doesn't seem to be connected to the band very well. It isn't aligned properly and looks like 1 side is coming out. It isn't loose, but there is a brown (rust?) line that I can see. It is barely noticeable but I think it makes it look cheap.
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I have the hoco milances magnetic clasp band in stainless steel and I also really like it. My only complaint is that the magnetic clasp slips when I am doing any kind of physical work. I am a social worker my day but in the weekend I like dyi projects around the house. The watch slipping lose sometime is annoying. But over all the w a huawei watch looks great with this band.
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Which watch face is that please?
I bought this one as well and really hated it. My review is on Amazon if anyone cares to read it (Cory S). I suppose I might had rated it better if I wasn't comparing it directly against the OEM mesh band...but probably not being they lied about the material it is made out of.
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Here are some pics. I am no photographer and the only camera I have is the one on my Nexus 6.
http://i.imgur.com/MgouCHa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/myky5CI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/s5dPdoI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8VxT00E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XPPNp4s.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fNokQFp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cxAN4fD.jpg
Sorry, I still can't figure out how to get pics to post directly on my comments. Why can't all forums be like overclock.net and many others and have integrated photo uploads? Where when you go to post a pic, you just upload it directly from your computer and not have to use some third party site and post links... so annoying.
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It looks like a darker silver. Is it darker then the stainless steel of the watch?
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It looks like a darker silver. Is it darker then the stainless steel of the watch?
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Nah looks the same shade. Just the shadows playing tricks on you.
I've been wearing this band for about a week. I have to adjust it a few times a day but it feels good. I haven't had any compliments on it either. The magnets get a little crazy taking it off. The band kinda all sticks to itself. I am getting faster at getting off and on one handed.
The thinness of the band really makes the Huawei looks super thick, hence why I liked my thick metal band. I also think it looks more feminine (IMO).
Thanks for this. Got the black one and loving it.
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I have both the clasp variant mesh band and this magnetic variant mesh band. The magnet is nice and easy to use, and it's very strong too, but the quality of the mesh is much higher on the clasp mesh band. Slightly thicker and feels sturdier, plus it's pretty much a 90% exact stock mesh band replica.
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I've purchsed the clasp variant you mention here. The mesh is fine, as you write. Otherwise I consider the band pretty much useless, as taking on the watch is a project for a minute or more. Ok, I might not be the handiest guy, but the problems are:
- very tight clasp, the band barely goes through
- very awkward clasp system itself, very hard to use when watch is on the wrist (typical use case, isn't it?).
I can hardly use the claps even off-wrist. From what I can tell from the photos, original Huawei OEM band uses the same system, so it's possibly cheapishly implemented here.
I got the item "packed" in a soft plastic envelope, due to what (probably) it has a very ugly dent on the part which connects to the watch. One of the quick release handles on the hinge fell apart until I got home from work.
tl;dr;
Don't buy this totally noname chinese crap.

anyone yet found a ZERO-magnet folio-style case?

I've spent hours looking at threads and product pages, and only found one goofy-looking thing shipping from China -- and even that one doesn't explicitly say "no magnets", but at least doesn't mention magnets or auto-wake/sleep. Minimum requirements:
-- non-magnetic secure closure / clasp (for example. button-snap, or velcro, or the kind of self-locking metal closure used on attache- or brief-cases -- or even a zipper)
-- bumper-style surround (vs. corner straps -- looking for secure attachment *and* shock protection)
-- sufficient excess border material to protect corners and edges
-- able to fold the front cover all the way back (even though that blocks the camera), so that the whole thing can be held in a grippy stand / holder, without the front cover flapping around (BTW, this guy does a fantastic job of making stands / mounts to *custom* requirements, *inexpensively* -- he's already made two for my S8+ in Spigen Wallet case, and is about to make another to hold the same + wireless charger: SlipGripCarMounts.com)
Nice to have but not essential (could mod these features myself):
-- pen holder
-- elastic strap inside the front cover, to slip your hand through when cover is folded back
-- a carrying handle on the spine, as on artists' portfolio cases
-- able to fold back the closure so that it also holds in place the folded-back front cover
My dad is actually making me a leather folio case, I'll post photos when hes finished.
I have found this case and https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Forefront-Cases-Rotating-Smart-Case-Cover-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S3-9-7-SM-T820/332224684565?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Dd914a29d045545bfb27f87a1b1b52fc7%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D332224684565&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A5a9d0226-7861-11e8-8690-74dbd180fbe2%7Cparentrq%3A367553b51640ac3d2c0efbd6fffa85f3%7Ciid%3A1
eBay item number:332224684565
The seller confirmed that there is no magnets and it uses the strap to keep it shut
double check about the magnet
if its this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLWtSCBsBjE
and on the offical site it looks like it has sleep wake feature if you look thru pictures.
https://forefrontcases.co.uk/produc...t820-leather-rotating-smart-case-cover-stand/
let us know either way mate .
I need a case
swagatsourav said:
I have found this case and https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Forefront-Cases-Rotating-Smart-Case-Cover-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S3-9-7-SM-T820/332224684565?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Dd914a29d045545bfb27f87a1b1b52fc7%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D332224684565&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A5a9d0226-7861-11e8-8690-74dbd180fbe2%7Cparentrq%3A367553b51640ac3d2c0efbd6fffa85f3%7Ciid%3A1
eBay item number:332224684565
The seller confirmed that there is no magnets and it uses the strap to keep it shut
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Ronin475 said:
double check about the magnet
if its this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLWtSCBsBjE
and on the offical site it looks like it has sleep wake feature if you look thru pictures.
https://forefrontcases.co.uk/produc...t820-leather-rotating-smart-case-cover-stand/
let us know either way mate .
I need a case
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This is what he said to me before
I can confirm this item does not have a magnetic closure and is kept shut using the strap.
I have sent him a message again quoting the website , but the vide you sent was of s2. Not sure if they have changed it on S3.
bad news and good news
The bad news...
Examining the evidence offered by @Ronin475, I think it's probably true.
The good news...
I FOUND THE CASE. Before I started this thread, I had actually already ordered a case on Amazon, purely on the basis that:
(a) although the Amazon page doesn't explicitly say "no magnets", it does't mention magnets or sleep / wake;
(b) it was going to take 3+ weeks to deliver (from China), and I had no idea how much longer I might be searching; and,
(c) it's cheap ($14 US including shipping) and therefore low-risk.
Well, it arrived today, much sooner (11 days) than expected. I had been expecting to be disappointed in one or more
respects, considering the low price and the shipping location -- not because it's *made* in China, but because no one
thought it worth *warehousing* in a major market like the U.S.
I've been pleasantly surprised.
(a) I confirmed there are no magnets. I ran a small "horse-shoe" magnet all over the case, and detected no metal.
Then I passed all parts of the front cover over the right side of the powered-on S3, and it had no effect.
(b) Given the price, it seems to be better build-quality than I expected. And it "ticks" the essential boxes...
(c) It has rubber bumpers all around, with properly located openings for everything, except that there's no opening for the
microSD card tray. (Oddly, though, it appears to have an opening for the ejection pin.). I guess it's not unreasonable to think
that users wouldn't be opening the tray very often; and having to remove this case to access the tray isn't difficult. And the
Spigen Wallet folio case on my S8+ also blocks the combination SD / SIM tray.
(c) I'd prefer to have the surround be a *tiny* bit thicker and project a couple of mm higher above the screen than it does,
but I'd say it's roughly proportional to what the Spigen does.
(d) The edges of the case do extend visibly beyond the bumper, providing side and corner protection.
(e) The front cover does fold all the way back, lying completely flat against the back.
(f) This wasn't part of the "essentials" in my OP, but the outer surfaces are moderately textured, making it less likely to
slip out of your hand.
(g) Likewise not originally listed as essential, it has a slight detent / kickstand inside the front cover, which holds the screen
at approximately 60 degrees in landscape-mode.
My only reservation about the construction is that I haven't yet installed the Spigen tempered-glass screen protector
which I already purchased for the tablet, so I can't yet confirm that the surround will still properly fit after I do that.
It doesn't have any kind of closure, but I can fix that easily and cheaply with some stick-on pieces of "hook-and-loop"
material (AKA velcro) which are sold on Amazon and in any office-supplies store.
It doesn't have any of the attributes I listed as "Nice to have but not essential", but as I said, I could mod those features myself.
And one more thing...
The decorative image is garish -- no plain patterns or solid colors or other "quiet"-looking options are offered.
But you have a choice of fifteen different garish and / or juvenile-looking patterns from which to choose.
Now that I'm looking at the Amazon page again, the least silly-looking one is probably the "Plum Blossom" pattern --
if you don't mind seeing a flash of Shocking Pink whenever you open the case.
If you're the "handy" type, you could probably find something at a crafts-supply store which you could trim to fit
and then glue over the outside.
The forum isn't letting me post the complete URL, but you can simply go to Amazon, and copy and paste
the following product-ID into the search field: B074H1H9XS
The Forefront case mentioned by @swagatsourav certainly looks nicer, and I like the swivel and the multi-position
kickstand. But 20+ British pounds (with shipping) is about $27US. I would have been willing to spend that much,
if I'd been aware of that case, and if I could have been *certain* about the magnet.
excellent review mate, my finte case arrived (the reviews said no probs with magnets, i contacted finite they said they were unaware of any problems )
but unfortunatly it does affect the pen once you know what to look for sadly.
It was less than £10 ,so i took a scalpel to it and removed the magnetic strips without any major damage. (this version has the pen holder BTW)
It still acts as a stand but not as secure as with magnetic strips and doesnt clip closed , but until i can get a better version this may do
link below for refrence
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072N4YGVG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
nusratt said:
The bad news...
Examining the evidence offered by @Ronin475, I think it's probably true.
The good news...
I FOUND THE CASE. Before I started this thread, I had actually already ordered a case on Amazon, purely on the basis that:
(a) although the Amazon page doesn't explicitly say "no magnets", it does't mention magnets or sleep / wake;
(b) it was going to take 3+ weeks to deliver (from China), and I had no idea how much longer I might be searching; and,
(c) it's cheap ($14 US including shipping) and therefore low-risk.
Well, it arrived today, much sooner (11 days) than expected. I had been expecting to be disappointed in one or more
respects, considering the low price and the shipping location -- not because it's *made* in China, but because no one
thought it worth *warehousing* in a major market like the U.S.
I've been pleasantly surprised.
(a) I confirmed there are no magnets. I ran a small "horse-shoe" magnet all over the case, and detected no metal.
Then I passed all parts of the front cover over the right side of the powered-on S3, and it had no effect.
(b) Given the price, it seems to be better build-quality than I expected. And it "ticks" the essential boxes...
(c) It has rubber bumpers all around, with properly located openings for everything, except that there's no opening for the
microSD card tray. (Oddly, though, it appears to have an opening for the ejection pin.). I guess it's not unreasonable to think
that users wouldn't be opening the tray very often; and having to remove this case to access the tray isn't difficult. And the
Spigen Wallet folio case on my S8+ also blocks the combination SD / SIM tray.
(c) I'd prefer to have the surround be a *tiny* bit thicker and project a couple of mm higher above the screen than it does,
but I'd say it's roughly proportional to what the Spigen does.
(d) The edges of the case do extend visibly beyond the bumper, providing side and corner protection.
(e) The front cover does fold all the way back, lying completely flat against the back.
(f) This wasn't part of the "essentials" in my OP, but the outer surfaces are moderately textured, making it less likely to
slip out of your hand.
(g) Likewise not originally listed as essential, it has a slight detent / kickstand inside the front cover, which holds the screen
at approximately 60 degrees in landscape-mode.
My only reservation about the construction is that I haven't yet installed the Spigen tempered-glass screen protector
which I already purchased for the tablet, so I can't yet confirm that the surround will still properly fit after I do that.
It doesn't have any kind of closure, but I can fix that easily and cheaply with some stick-on pieces of "hook-and-loop"
material (AKA velcro) which are sold on Amazon and in any office-supplies store.
It doesn't have any of the attributes I listed as "Nice to have but not essential", but as I said, I could mod those features myself.
And one more thing...
The decorative image is garish -- no plain patterns or solid colors or other "quiet"-looking options are offered.
But you have a choice of fifteen different garish and / or juvenile-looking patterns from which to choose.
Now that I'm looking at the Amazon page again, the least silly-looking one is probably the "Plum Blossom" pattern --
if you don't mind seeing a flash of Shocking Pink whenever you open the case.
If you're the "handy" type, you could probably find something at a crafts-supply store which you could trim to fit
and then glue over the outside.
The forum isn't letting me post the complete URL, but you can simply go to Amazon, and copy and paste
the following product-ID into the search field: B074H1H9XS
The Forefront case mentioned by @swagatsourav certainly looks nicer, and I like the swivel and the multi-position
kickstand. But 20+ British pounds (with shipping) is about $27US. I would have been willing to spend that much,
if I'd been aware of that case, and if I could have been *certain* about the magnet.
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Ronin475 said:
i took a scalpel to it and removed the magnetic strips without any major damage.
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I've handled Fintie products before, and I like them. And although their cases offer some of the same garish patterns as mine, they at least also do offer some which are more staid. And even their version of the "Plum Blossom" pattern is lined in subdued grey (vs. bright pink).
More importantly... can you post some close-up pics to show what the "post-surgical" sites look like?
And... not to be intrusively personal, but why do you happen to have scalpels lying around?
Do you by any chance frequent the Whitechapel area, or do occasional barbering on Fleet Street?
will grab some pics when i get home tomorrow mate
the case was simple black which is all i wanted no frill's no spills.
Doesnt every one have a scapel laying around just in case? lol
A friend of my is a Doctor so she knows i like gadgets etc so gave me the small light pen scapel etc , they have come in handy on occasion
nusratt said:
I've handled Fintie products before, and I like them. And although their cases offer some of the same garish patterns as mine, they at least also do offer some which are more staid. And even their version of the "Plum Blossom" pattern is lined in subdued grey (vs. bright pink).
More importantly... can you post some close-up pics to show what the "post-surgical" sites look like?
And... not to be intrusively personal, but why do you happen to have scalpels lying around?
Do you by any chance frequent the Whitechapel area, or do occasional barbering on Fleet Street?
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swagatsourav said:
This is what he said to me before
I can confirm this item does not have a magnetic closure and is kept shut using the strap.
I have sent him a message again quoting the website , but the vide you sent was of s2. Not sure if they have changed it on S3.
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So finally he did confirm it does HAVE magnets when i asked specifically about sleep wake.
Unfortunately the case mentioned by @nusratt is no longer available on amazon UK and neither does the seller on amazon USA ships it to UK.
I am still contemplating about going for
MoKo Galaxy Tab S3 9.7 Slim-Fit Multi-angle Folio Cover Case but need confirmation from any members that it would not affect the spen use. 
 @leojab mentioned in https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s3/accessories/zero-magnet-folio-style-case-t3807323 thread that it works perfectly fine.
swagatsourav said:
Unfortunately the case mentioned by @nusratt is no longer available on amazon UK and neither does the seller on amazon USA ships it to UK.
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I'm surprised that they won't ship to UK, since they're shipping from China. Have you tried contacting the seller directly, through their Amazon page?
how about this one?
swagatsourav said:
I am still contemplating about going for MoKo Galaxy Tab S3 9.7 Slim-Fit Multi-angle Folio Cover Case but need confirmation from any members that it would not affect the spen use.
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On xda and elsewhere, I've read several posts saying about various cases, "I didn't see the problem until I had been using the case for a while." That's why I decided not to pursue any case which mentioned having *either* a magnet *or* a sleep / wake function.
Somewhere recently, maybe on xda or even in this very thread, I saw this one ("kwmobile Elegant") on Amazon: B07233PKL8
Maybe you could ask that one's seller about magnets, sleep, and shipping.
I've been using a magnet case on my Tab S3 since August of last year with zero issues. It is on every day 24/7. I only take about 2 hours of notes a day on average Monday-Friday and the rest of the time is spent with magnets engaged and case cover closed. No issues.
I used a bit of glue under the flaps of the case i have cut open the sealed them down.
I then added some electrician's tape just to cover it ( the tape makes it look a bit rougher than the cuts )
I have marked where the magnetic strips were removed in yellow.
It does fold into the stand option but isnt as secure as i would like it as magentics dont hold it in place.
I may use something to sort that out later
Pic's
https://imgur.com/a/Y3SltoB
nusratt said:
I've handled Fintie products before, and I like them. And although their cases offer some of the same garish patterns as mine, they at least also do offer some which are more staid. And even their version of the "Plum Blossom" pattern is lined in subdued grey (vs. bright pink).
More importantly... can you post some close-up pics to show what the "post-surgical" sites look like?
And... not to be intrusively personal, but why do you happen to have scalpels lying around?
Do you by any chance frequent the Whitechapel area, or do occasional barbering on Fleet Street?
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Ronin475 said:
I then added some electrician's tape just to cover it ( the tape makes it look a bit rougher than the cuts )
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1. Looking at the pic, I wondered, did you use the electrician's tape to smooth over the rough feel of the cut edges on the hand? And / or because the opposite sides of the cut couldn't be brought back together in a gap-less seam?
2. Also, from which side did you initiate the cutting? Superficially it looks like the inner and outer covers are two separate pieces of different materials, the inside matte and fabric-like, and the outside shiny plastic / TPU; but maybe the inner matte surface is merely a coating. Was there an inner core between them, maybe cardboard? I'm asking because I'm wondering if it would be possible to remove the magnets by cutting only from the inside, so that the outside never shows any sign of the alteration. I imagine that the magnets were held in place by some kind of adhesive.
3. Looking at the pic again, it occurs to me to ask: do the rubber bumpers on that case completely surround the tablet, or are they only on the corners? The pic makes it appear that either it's corners-only, or the corners project higher above the tablet edge than the bumper sides do.
aspexil said:
I've been using a magnet case on my Tab S3 since August of last year with zero issues... 2 hours of notes a day...
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I understand completely -- there are many people who report fortunate experiences like yours. It's just that there are so many who've had the opposite experience, that a lot of shoppers, in this forum and elsewhere, are bending over backwards to be "better safe than sorry".
btw, what case are you using?
To make the longest cut on the "outside" of the case i had to split it (like splitting a piece of cardbord) ,
the split is fairly easy , it gets a bit messy pulling out the magnetic strips that are glued in place so in some spots its a little rough depending how lucky you are. ( i would recomend breaking the magnetic into smaller bits as its easier to remove)
It doesnt feel rough to the touch or any thing and its mainly the central bit that was slightly rough you can see that in the pic.
For the magnetic strip closer to the screen i cut away from the smooth grey side of the case , this was slightly more tricky as i didnt want to poke thru to other side of case.
The central bit of the case is indeed carboard but as the magnets are glued in place there will be a little damage removing them.
The magnets in the plastic part of the case i used a metal spudger to pry them out
I added the tape as a layer of protection to stop any further splits etc
The bumpers are only on the edges are a hard plastic type of material.
The overall build of the case is "ok" not amazing but its a decent case for unde £10.
nusratt said:
1. Looking at the pic, I wondered, did you use the electrician's tape to smooth over the rough feel of the cut edges on the hand? And / or because the opposite sides of the cut couldn't be brought back together in a gap-less seam?
2. Also, from which side did you initiate the cutting? Superficially it looks like the inner and outer covers are two separate pieces of different materials, the inside matte and fabric-like, and the outside shiny plastic / TPU; but maybe the inner matte surface is merely a coating. Was there an inner core between them, maybe cardboard? I'm asking because I'm wondering if it would be possible to remove the magnets by cutting only from the inside, so that the outside never shows any sign of the alteration. I imagine that the magnets were held in place by some kind of adhesive.
3. Looking at the pic again, it occurs to me to ask: do the rubber bumpers on that case completely surround the tablet, or are they only on the corners? The pic makes it appear that either it's corners-only, or the corners project higher above the tablet edge than the bumper sides do.
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also forgot to mention the sleep wake function still works without the magnets in the case.
there is a stong magnet in the tablet where the spine of the case is.
So i think the small square of metal i left in the case is registered by the fluctuation in the device field and when the light sensor is covered/uncovered it sleeps/wakes.
Ronin475 said:
To make the longest cut on the "outside" of the case i had to split it (like splitting a piece of cardbord) ,
the split is fairly easy , it gets a bit messy pulling out the magnetic strips that are glued in place so in some spots its a little rough depending how lucky you are. ( i would recomend breaking the magnetic into smaller bits as its easier to remove)
It doesnt feel rough to the touch or any thing and its mainly the central bit that was slightly rough you can see that in the pic.
For the magnetic strip closer to the screen i cut away from the smooth grey side of the case , this was slightly more tricky as i didnt want to poke thru to other side of case.
The central bit of the case is indeed carboard but as the magnets are glued in place there will be a little damage removing them.
The magnets in the plastic part of the case i used a metal spudger to pry them out
I added the tape as a layer of protection to stop any further splits etc
The bumpers are only on the edges are a hard plastic type of material.
The overall build of the case is "ok" not amazing but its a decent case for unde £10.
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Ronin475 said:
also forgot to mention the sleep wake function still works without the magnets in the case.
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1. WTF?! Then what the hell is the purpose of all the other magnets you found and removed?
2. Damn. This is depressing news. I can't begin to tell you how many otherwise very desirable-seeming cases I looked at and ruled out simply on the assumption that "sleep/wake = magnet".
it appears the magnets mainly held the case closed an the other strip was used to secure the stand bit.
I double checked with a magnetic field app on my phone , not high tech but does pick up fields.
and magnets are gone and there is a small reading where that small metal or maybe chip is.
i have attached a small elastic ribbon so the stand works perfect now, may work on something for keeping the case closed .
nusratt said:
1. WTF?! Then what the hell is the purpose of all the other magnets you found and removed?
2. Damn. This is depressing news. I can't begin to tell you how many otherwise very desirable-seeming cases I looked at and ruled out simply on the assumption that "sleep/wake = magnet".
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