Anyone else notice the GSM Arena band listings for the OnePlus 3 states CDMA for the North America model? Anyone planning on using this phone for a carrier on a CDMA network, what are your thoughts?
Technology
GSM / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - North America
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - Global model
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - North America
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700) - North America
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Global model
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE Cat6 300/50 Mbps
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
There's no CDMA.
Is there a source? Personally I use AT&T, and I see if it is true what is showing, then it is 3g CDMA data only, but you say just no. Trying to help others who may be interested to know this what they may be getting...
According to the OnePlus website it does include CDMA, but it won't work on LTE on Sprint or Verizon. It does not have any of Sprint's LTE bands and does not have Verizon's main LTE band, and neither carrier would activate it because of that.
My guess is it is possibly for abroad CDMA then.
Hi everyone
I am looking forward to buy a sprint version galaxy s6 which has been unlocked, imported and being sold by someone else. Now the question i want to ask is whether this will work with 4g network in my country (jio 4g)with data and Volte support. The seller tried the sim card in it and it shows full network bars but according to him data and call is not working. Is it something limited to sprint version phones? Should i buy it?
dbzgoku said:
Hi everyone
I am looking forward to buy a sprint version galaxy s6 which has been unlocked, imported and being sold by someone else. Now the question i want to ask is whether this will work with 4g network in my country (jio 4g)with data and Volte support. The seller tried the sim card in it and it shows full network bars but according to him data and call is not working. Is it something limited to sprint version phones? Should i buy it?
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all depends on what carrier you wish to use the phone on and what network the carrier operates on. Do a Google search for the network technology your carrier uses and if it is on the list below you should be fine as long as the phone is definitely SIM network Unlocked and the IMEI is not Blacklisted.
NETWORK Technology
GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - G920V, G920P
CDMA 800 / 1900 - G920V, G920P, G920R
3G bands
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - G920V
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - G920V, G920P, G920R
4G bands
LTE band 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 13(700) - G920V
LTE band 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 12(700), 25(1900), 26(850), 41(2500) - G920P
LTE band 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 25(1900) - G920R
hello ladys and gentlemen and sorry for this weird qestion. i currently live in denmark and the htc 10 has not made its way here at all, i realy want one and is greatly considering buying it from over seas. the cheapest ones i can find is the sprint version. i have abselutely no clue if those will work here in denmark or not. we use LTE. do you guys know if the sprint version has some sort of trick up its sleve? if its locked i can just unlock it right?
DrTorretz1 said:
hello ladys and gentlemen and sorry for this weird qestion. i currently live in denmark and the htc 10 has not made its way here at all, i realy want one and is greatly considering buying it from over seas. the cheapest ones i can find is the sprint version. i have abselutely no clue if those will work here in denmark or not. we use LTE. do you guys know if the sprint version has some sort of trick up its sleve? if its locked i can just unlock it right?
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I believe it depends on LTE bands your mobile provider uses.
NETWORK Technology
GSM / CDMA / HSPA / LTE
2G bands: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
CDMA: 800 / 1900 - USA
3G bands: HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - EMEA
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - USA
4G bands: LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - EMEA
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300) - USA
I am planning to get S9 and deciding between getting one from T-Mobile vs. US/Unlocked version direct from Samsung.
First of all, comparing the specs of the respective models I see differences in supported bands (matching ones omitted):
Unlocked:
2G CDMA: CDMA800, USPCS1900
3G UMTS: B8(900)
3G CDMA: BC0(800), BC1(1900)
4G FDD LTE: B17(700), B28(700), B29(700), B66(AWS-3)
4G TDD LTE: B46(5200)
T-Mobile:
3G UMTS: B4(AWS)
3G TD-SCDMA: B34(2010), B39(1880)
4G FDD LTE: B12(700), B66(AWS-3), B71 (600MHz)
How would the absence of these bands affect my coverage/speeds within the US?
My second question is about "WiFi calling". I had a bad experience with Galaxy S6 where Wi-Fi calling feature did not work on Samsung generic ROM and was only available on T-Mobile ROMs. I wonder if they fixed this in newer models.
Besides being unlocked and having less pre-installed software are there are any pros/cons buying form T-Mobile vs. buying from Samsung directly?
The major difference as a T-Mobile customer is that the unlocked US version from Samsung does not support B71 (600mhz). This is T-Mobile's new "big thing" but I suppose it may depend on what city/state you are located in. Find more info on the 600mhz acquisition here: https://www.google.com/search?q=t+m...1.69i57j0l5.3768j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Users have reported that the S8 unlocked version worked fine with Tmo wifi calling. I assume it'll be the same for the S9.
Nightwind Hawk said:
The major difference as a T-Mobile customer is that the unlocked US version from Samsung does not support B71 (600mhz)..
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Yes it does.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
Multiple sites have shown the US unlocked S9/+ supporting bands 66 and 71.
The International Exynos version supports 66 but not 71. https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...ds-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2?c_id=22151
Superguy said:
Yes it does.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/Ar9mx/samsung-sm-g965u-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2
Multiple sites have shown the US unlocked S9/+ supporting bands 66 and 71.
The International Exynos version supports 66 but not 71. https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...ds-galaxy-s9-td-lte-samsung-star-2?c_id=22151
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I used this source:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-sm-g960-g965-model-number-differences/
It shows B66 but not B71.
vzaliva said:
I used this source:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-sm-g960-g965-model-number-differences/
It shows B66 but not B71.
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Look at the comments on that site - you'll see many people reporting errors with the listing. FWIW, they do seem to be fixing the errors on that page once it is brought to their attention.
tl;dr: Take that site with a grain of salt.
According to Samsung support no band 71 for the s9 unlocked, here is the list of supported bands.
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(800), B28(700), B29(700), B30(2300), B66(AWS-3)
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According to Samsung support no band 71 for the s9 unlocked, here is the list of supported bands.
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(800), B28(700), B29(700), B30(2300), B66(AWS-3)
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Here are the bands the t mobile variant supports according the Samsung support.
Connectivity Frequencies and Data Type 2G GSM:
GSM850,GSM900,DCS1800,PCS1900
3G UMTS: B1(2100),B2(1900),B4(AWS),B5(850)
3G TD-SCDMA: B34(2010),B39(1880)
4G FDD LTE : B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B12(700),B13(700),B18(800),B19(800),B20(800),B25(1900),B26(850),B66(AWS-3) B71.
4G TDD LTE: B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500)
whats the verdict?? I'm trying to decided on the same issue as well.
Cuda70383 said:
whats the verdict?? I'm trying to decided on the same issue as well.
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Unfortunately the verdict won't be in until it gets into our hands, if band 71 is super important then just get the T-Mobile variant and be done with it. Or if you just prefer less bloat then unlocked probably is the way to go....
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Well, after reading the thread I decided to contact Samsung support, again, to see what they might say today. I contacted live chat support again and this is what they sent me. The bands supported by the Galaxy s 9 unlocked variant.
Sohail M at 7:17, Mar 5:
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900 PCS)
B3 (1800 +)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B8 (900)
B12 (700 ac)
B13 (700 c)
B17 (700 bc)
B18 (800 Lower)
B20 (800 DD)
B25 (1900 +)
B26 (850 +)
B28 (700 APT)
B29 (700 de)
B30 (2300 WCS)
B32 (1500 L-band)
B38 (TD 2600)
B39 (TD 1900 +)
B40 (TD 2300)
B41 (TD 2500)
B46 (TD 900)
B66 (1700/2100)
B71 (600)
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Well, after reading the thread I decided to contact Samsung support, again, to see what they might say today. I contacted live chat support again and this is what they sent me. The bands supported by the Galaxy s 9 unlocked variant.
Sohail M at 7:17, Mar 5:
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900 PCS)
B3 (1800 +)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B8 (900)
B12 (700 ac)
B13 (700 c)
B17 (700 bc)
B18 (800 Lower)
B20 (800 DD)
B25 (1900 +)
B26 (850 +)
B28 (700 APT)
B29 (700 de)
B30 (2300 WCS)
B32 (1500 L-band)
B38 (TD 2600)
B39 (TD 1900 +)
B40 (TD 2300)
B41 (TD 2500)
B46 (TD 900)
B66 (1700/2100)
B71 (600)
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and if you contact them again I bet they tell you something different..
bkeaver said:
and if you contact them again I bet they tell you something different..
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It is different from what they told me on Saturday.
uzupan said:
It is different from what they told me on Saturday.
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yeah its going to come down to.. either wait till someone has it in there hands to confirm or ot take your chances or just go for the T-Mobile Variant and be done with it..
Decided to peruse the FCC docs for the Galaxy S9, located here: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...id=iZpmwirNeCdRpxZDqp7ksg==&fcc_id=A3LSMG960U
Specifically the "HAC Key Feature letter" doc, if I'm reading/understanding it correctly, both the SM-G960U and SM-G960U1 (unlocked model if they're following the same model number scheme as last year) will support Band 71 LTE.
I guess direct linking to the doc is not allowed, but you can open it from the link above.
Cuda70383 said:
whats the verdict?? I'm trying to decided on the same issue as well.
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If it does support band 71 LTE what other benefits are their to getting the unlocked version vs a carrier version? Is there any negatives?
When you say "US/Unlocked version", is that carrier-unlocked (use on any operator), or boot-loader unlocked (install custom recovery like TWRP)?
Is there an S9 version that is boot-loader unlocked (Exynos) that supports Band 71 and T-mobile Wi-Fi Calling?
Anyone have experience with a US unlocked one in hand?
timg11 said:
When you say "US/Unlocked version", is that carrier-unlocked (use on any operator), or boot-loader unlocked (install custom recovery like TWRP)?
Is there an S9 version that is boot-loader unlocked (Exynos) that supports Band 71 and T-mobile Wi-Fi Calling?
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US unlocked is only "Carrier Unlocked" there is NO bootloader unlocked version in the US
So im not sure if this is still an active thread.
But on a U1 model, cant we do a "DIAL" code to enable all LTE Antennas?
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US unlocked is only "Carrier Unlocked" there is NO bootloader unlocked version in the US
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What would you consider the TMOBILE S9's then?
are they bootloader locked?
From my experience ATT and VERIZON's s9's are not bootloader locked.
Tmobile and others are.. As with TMOBILE s9's you arent able to flash to an UNLOCKED firmware...
eastsidebiz said:
So im not sure if this is still an active thread.
But on a U1 model, cant we do a "DIAL" code to enable all LTE Antennas?
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What would you consider the TMOBILE S9's then?
are they bootloader locked?
From my experience ATT and VERIZON's s9's are not bootloader locked.
Tmobile and others are.. As with TMOBILE s9's you arent able to flash to an UNLOCKED firmware...
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There is no us carrier S9 that has their bootloader unlocked. The U1 is a us model and it has the bootloader locked as well.. only international models bootloader's can be unlocked
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vzaliva said:
I am planning to get S9 and deciding between getting one from T-Mobile vs. US/Unlocked version direct from Samsung.
First of all, comparing the specs of the respective models I see differences in supported bands (matching ones omitted):
Unlocked:
2G CDMA: CDMA800, USPCS1900
3G UMTS: B8(900)
3G CDMA: BC0(800), BC1(1900)
4G FDD LTE: B17(700), B28(700), B29(700), B66(AWS-3)
4G TDD LTE: B46(5200)
T-Mobile:
3G UMTS: B4(AWS)
3G TD-SCDMA: B34(2010), B39(1880)
4G FDD LTE: B12(700), B66(AWS-3), B71 (600MHz)
How would the absence of these bands affect my coverage/speeds within the US?
My second question is about "WiFi calling". I had a bad experience with Galaxy S6 where Wi-Fi calling feature did not work on Samsung generic ROM and was only available on T-Mobile ROMs. I wonder if they fixed this in newer models.
Besides being unlocked and having less pre-installed software are there are any pros/cons buying form T-Mobile vs. buying from Samsung directly?
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unlocked models works with TMOBILE WIFI CALLING, just no VIDEO CALLING.
I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
shanekm said:
I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
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Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
Working perfect for me here in Europe.
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Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
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Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
shanekm said:
Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
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I answered this question earlier in your other post. Remember I own this phone on tmobile.
No one uses band 66 or 71 from what i've seen anywhere.
Tmobile uses band 4, 2 in some areas, or 12. At least from what I've seen.
You're overanalyzing things now.
I've tested the bands in the service menu.
Why don't you call t-mobile and ask them if they use a strange band like 66 in your area? I've never heard of that before.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
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Does the LMG710EAW really support both bands 7 and 20? My research turned up that it supported band 7 (2600mhz) but not band 20 (800 mhz) or is this just due to them only listings bands from that region?
I ordered one without maybe doing my due diligence and Vodafone UK for 4G is bands 7 and 20
I have both LMG710EAW and LMG710ULM in hands, LMG710EAW doesn't seem to support B20, as in the parking area I get 4G on ULM but not with EAW.
But it's strange as today I had a look on the original packing of ULM, it's written with B20 support???
Also from LG site, FDD 4G Networks, without B20: 2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
https://www.lg.com/hk_en/mobile-phone/lg-LMG710EAW-128GB