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Hey guys,
Looking for some opinions. I'm planning on jumping ship top the galaxy note 2. I live in the USA and I'm in an area with great LTE coverage. I'm either going to purchase the international or local variant.
I'm thinking of getting the international version because I assume development will be much greater and more accessories available.
If I wait and get the Att version I'll have access to the LTE network, but I fear there will be less development and accessories.
Any thoughts, what would you guys do?
Thanks,
Rob
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Great LTE speeds or great development. AT&T version will have the same specs as the international version. The rest is up to you to make a decision
im getting unlocked version i have a GS3 on ATT and HSAP+ is pretty good on ATT.. plus no crap ware from ATT unless you root which is the only to roll :highfive: more support on unlock.. plus HSAP+ will be more battery friendly :victory:
markysd said:
im getting unlocked version i have a GS3 on ATT and HSAP+ is pretty good on ATT.. plus no crap ware from ATT unless you root which is the only to roll :highfive: more support on unlock.. plus HSAP+ will be more battery friendly :victory:
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My thoughts exacty. Received my N7100 on Monday. LTE is not available in my area anyway.
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Pinkthesink said:
Hey guys,
Looking for some opinions. I'm planning on jumping ship top the galaxy note 2. I live in the USA and I'm in an area with great LTE coverage. I'm either going to purchase the international or local variant.
I'm thinking of getting the international version because I assume development will be much greater and more accessories available.
If I wait and get the Att version I'll have access to the LTE network, but I fear there will be less development and accessories.
Any thoughts, what would you guys do?
Thanks,
Rob
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i am in the same boat, picked up the NOTE 2 7100 and honestly after using the htc one x lte for 5 months on mobile network i really havent felt deprived unless im viewing a picture heavy site. my theory is i can sell my 7100 get the att one or buy the att one stuff my 7100 in the box (after switching stickers of course) and return it.
americasteam said:
My thoughts exacty. Received my N7100 on Monday. LTE is not available in my area anyway.
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must be loving it:victory: im close to pulling the trigger..the more i go on this site and watch youtube videos about the Note 2 the closer ill buy it..im really wanting a 32GB due to i dont know why we cant run apps from SD cards or burst shots saved ect and what else that only runs on internal memory..16GB now days gets eaten up quick specially when backed up roms .. the SD card reader on the NOTE supports them crazy fast reading from sandisk cards...
high end phones now days should be 32GB at the lowest phones are getting smarter/faster/higher camera MP ect and require more GB but i guess i can live with 16GB for apps only and like 3 roms backed up ect..i feel more safe with 32GB plus the note is design for content consumption i dont really talk on the phone:silly:
i miss my note 1 in a way but was just a test drive to see if i like it and i did. i dont really like 1st gen devices.
I'm agreeing with you guys about LTE, its fast but the hspa+ in this area is real good as well. Plus there's no telling what Att will do to the device, bootloader and all. I think I'll go the intl route for now. Any ideas on foreign suppliers right now, I've used clove on the UK for the original note and gs2 with great success.
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I prefer international version too but I'm having such a bad luck with data speed. I can barely go over 1mbps, if I'm lucky 2mbps at the most. I know my location has LTE coverage but doesn't seem hspa+ friendly. It's so frustrating, for that reason I might try att LTE version since specs are most identical.
As for accessories, I don't think there will be too much difference. Int & US S3 has just about same amount of accessories availability. I assume it will be same for Note 2.
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One thing I don't see a lot of people mentioning is the tethering capabilities of the international version.
That is the main reason why I went with the international version of the US version HTC One X, Galaxy S3 and now the Note 2 was for the built in tethering.
With the US version, as soon as I tried tethering a device to it, it requires me to add an appropriate more expensive data plan before I can connect.
With the international versions, I tether all day to them with my laptop, my other wifi devices ect. without incurring any extra charges or making any changes to my current data plan.
That my friend, is way worth it for me to go with the international version.
Once you got LTE, you never go back...thats me though. Same exact specs plus LTE? Also it should be out in a week or two? Id wait.
So people who have Note 2 in the US how are your data speeds are seeing a big difference in not having the LTE version? I live in a non LTE area does affect me?
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jawain said:
So people who have Note 2 in the US how are your data speeds are seeing a big difference in not having the LTE version? I live in a non LTE area does affect me?
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Comparing my international note2 to my wife's galaxy S3 with AT&T's LTE service, she gets faster data speeds - at least 2x what I can get (and sometimes even 4-5x times what I can get.) (I get about 4 to 7 down while I've seen hers go as high as 25 down.) However, it's really not noticable for web browsing, email, etc. The only time I noticed any difference (outside of the speedtest benchmark app) was when downloading something from the google play store. Even that isn't an issue for me, as I usually don't download from the play store when I'm not home (and on wifi.)
Having the LTE device will result in heavier battery usage (even in a non-LTE area.) Until the devices start showing up, however, it's impossible to say what the difference will be. It might be an extremely power efficient LTE chip, or it might not be. The extra drain will be most noticable when the device is connected to the LTE network and data is transfering. Even when NOT using data or not connected to LTE, it will still drain extra power (as the extra LTE chip will be powered and will occassionally search for an LTE connection.)
Take care
Gary
garyd9 said:
Comparing my international note2 to my wife's galaxy S3 with AT&T's LTE service, she gets faster data speeds - at least 2x what I can get (and sometimes even 4-5x times what I can get.) (I get about 4 to 7 down while I've seen hers go as high as 25 down.) However, it's really not noticable for web browsing, email, etc. The only time I noticed any difference (outside of the speedtest benchmark app) was when downloading something from the google play store. Even that isn't an issue for me, as I usually don't download from the play store when I'm not home (and on wifi.)
Having the LTE device will result in heavier battery usage (even in a non-LTE area.) Until the devices start showing up, however, it's impossible to say what the difference will be. It might be an extremely power efficient LTE chip, or it might not be. The extra drain will be most noticable when the device is connected to the LTE network and data is transfering. Even when NOT using data or not connected to LTE, it will still drain extra power (as the extra LTE chip will be powered and will occassionally search for an LTE connection.)
Take care
Gary
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Thank you for that information so despite the the data speeds are you satisfied with the Int Note 2 or do you think you will switching to the US version?
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I have never owned an LTE phone and seem to do just fine on HSPA+. My Note 2 will here Monday (from Newegg) and I'll just use it as I do every other HSPA+ phone. If it meets my needs (streaming netflix/radio/tethering) I'll just keep it. If the AT&T version is super power efficient and screams on LTE without sucking (bloatware, locked down, etc) I'll just sell my mint international Note 2 and move on with my life and get the AT&T version.
Win-win.
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Thank you for that information so despite the the data speeds are you satisfied with the Int Note 2 or do you think you will switching to the US version?
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Most likely, I'll keep the international version. I expect AT&T to sell their LTE version for 750 off contract (75 more than I paid for the international), it'll be bloated (as every AT&T device is), locked to AT&T frequencies and SIMs, and I don't think it'll be as well supported by the open community as the n7100.
Finally, I think it'll be at least one more generation of chips before LTE is power efficient enough for me. I simply don't do anything with my phone that really takes advantage of the LTE speeds - so the extra battery drain from the LTE support isn't worth it for me.
If I used my phone for tethering, on the other hand, I probably wouldn't even consider the non-LTE handsets anymore (and would keep a spare battery or two.)
Take care
Gary
Any idea what size sim card will be used for the AT&T version? Should be regular size right? That is my only concern because I don't want to have to cut my regular sized sim card if I were to get the international version. Unless AT&T will use micro sim too... if that's the case then I could just buy the international version now since I'll be cutting my sim card either way.. and I don't really need LTE and AT&T's bloatware.
maykatok said:
Any idea what size sim card will be used for the AT&T version? Should be regular size right? That is my only concern because I don't want to have to cut my regular sized sim card if I were to get the international version. Unless AT&T will use micro sim too... if that's the case then I could just buy the international version now since I'll be cutting my sim card either way.. and I don't really need LTE and AT&T's bloatware.
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microSIM. Pretty much all new phones these days are micro. It's the new standard.
What carriers are you guys using to tether?
Just curious because i was considering straight talk but its against their ToS to tether.
just something i found on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0
LTE version of note 2 bench marked lower then the N7100
turilo said:
just something i found on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0
LTE version of note 2 bench marked lower then the N7100
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Lol totally disregard my last post lte note 2 is the same in benchmark tests
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I've been wanting into the oneplus ecosystem of insanely good development for awhile, but unfortunately am stuck with Verizon in my area. Any chance this will be the phone that supports Verizon bands?
Unfortuately, the leak shows no band 13: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/oneplus-5t-leak-t3703244
You can read more if you like as to what that means as that was the same with OnePlus 5: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/verizon-compatibility-t3623695
MRog40 said:
I've been wanting into the oneplus ecosystem of insanely good development for awhile, but unfortunately am stuck with Verizon in my area. Any chance this will be the phone that supports Verizon bands?
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You can really give up on version support. CDMA is a hard area to get into as most of the phone functions are not open source and licensing is always an issue. Will just have to wait for Version to get off of the old standard and use something that isnt 50 years old.
I was looking at this but in same boat with Verizon.. pulled trigger on the PH-1.. cant beat it for the price
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zelendel said:
You can really give up on version support. CDMA is a hard area to get into as most of the phone functions are not open source and licensing is always an issue. Will just have to wait for Version to get off of the old standard and use something that isnt 50 years old.
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Licensing of CDMA is a trivial issue, many unlocked phones are now offering it including VERY inexpensive phones from Motorola.
For many of us Verizon is a requirement, not an option. It's the only carrier I can use that doesn't constantly lose LTE service. So in a way, their LTE network is more advanced, more built out. All of my voice and data traffic travels over LTE on Verizon 99%+ of the time.
Glad to have CDMA as a backup plan, even though my phone hasn't fallen back to CDMA in a long time. It does sometimes in the mountains where only 1.228 MHz CDMA slices work well. Verizon will get rid of it when the world is ready, there's nothing technically stopping them today, they would just lose some of their coverage advantage.
Was interested in the OnePlus 5T, but will happily keep using my Pixel 2 so that my phone actually has service where I live and travel. Where Verizon uses "50 year old technology," other carriers often has no service at all.
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Licensing of CDMA is a trivial issue, many unlocked phones are now offering it including VERY inexpensive phones from Motorola.
For many of us Verizon is a requirement, not an option. It's the only carrier I can use that doesn't constantly lose LTE service. So in a way, their LTE network is more advanced, more built out. All of my voice and data traffic travels over LTE on Verizon 99%+ of the time.
Glad to have CDMA as a backup plan, even though my phone hasn't fallen back to CDMA in a long time. It does sometimes in the mountains where only 1.228 MHz CDMA slices work well. Verizon will get rid of it when the world is ready, there's nothing technically stopping them today, they would just lose some of their coverage advantage.
Was interested in the OnePlus 5T, but will happily keep using my Pixel 2 so that my phone actually has service where I live and travel. Where Verizon uses "50 year old technology," other carriers often has no service at all.
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A trivial thing yet soo many dont or cant do it. You also have to remember that CDMA is only used by Verizon and sprint along with a few smaller carriers. The rest of the world uses GSM.
That is already starting with them working with ATT to build new towers.
I could say the same for where I live. Here ATT is your only option. Nothing else works here.
zelendel said:
A trivial thing yet soo many dont or cant do it. You also have to remember that CDMA is only used by Verizon and sprint along with a few smaller carriers. The rest of the world uses GSM.
That is already starting with them working with ATT to build new towers.
I could say the same for where I live. Here ATT is your only option. Nothing else works here.
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Fair enough, every location is different. I just think phone manufacturers choosing to omit CDMA is more a numbers game than complexity. The Snapdragon chips/modems support it, antenna tuning is not an issue since the phones already run on those bands, etc. If Motorola can ship a $99 unlocked unsubsidized non-prepaid phone with CDMA, surely OnePlus could have put it in the 5T. Perhaps it would have been $519, though, and they wanted to hit that $499 price point. Who knows.
Isn't the Tillman deal just adding another lease operator similar to American Towers and Crown Castle? Most towers in our area are owned by those two with multiple operators on them, though we have a ton of Verizon micro cells in town that are seemingly build directly by Verizon. Outside of town there seem to be a lot of towers with JUST Verizon or AT&T on them, and that's where the coverage differences really start. Will the Tillman towers be LTE-only?
nadrojjordan said:
Fair enough, every location is different. I just think phone manufacturers choosing to omit CDMA is more a numbers game than complexity. The Snapdragon chips/modems support it, antenna tuning is not an issue since the phones already run on those bands, etc. If Motorola can ship a $99 unlocked unsubsidized non-prepaid phone with CDMA, surely OnePlus could have put it in the 5T. Perhaps it would have been $519, though, and they wanted to hit that $499 price point. Who knows.
Isn't the Tillman deal just adding another lease operator similar to American Towers and Crown Castle? Most towers in our area are owned by those two with multiple operators on them, though we have a ton of Verizon micro cells in town that are seemingly build directly by Verizon. Outside of town there seem to be a lot of towers with JUST Verizon or AT&T on them, and that's where the coverage differences really start. Will the Tillman towers be LTE-only?
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Eventually yes. LTE is the next step. This is why Verizon has been using LTE Sim cards for the past few years. They are slowly having to convert as CDMA tech is just too old and limited for the direction of mobile connections.
Motorola has a stake in doing it. China also uses a few old CDMA setups. They also have the money to pay the licensing and what ever price Verizon charges to test the device and work with them for putting the needed software on it. Remember the base phone functions for CDMA tech us not open source. Not even in Android.
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Eventually yes. LTE is the next step. This is why Verizon has been using LTE Sim cards for the past few years. They are slowly having to convert as CDMA tech is just too old and limited for the direction of mobile connections.
Motorola has a stake in doing it. China also uses a few old CDMA setups. They also have the money to pay the licensing and what ever price Verizon charges to test the device and work with them for putting the needed software on it. Remember the base phone functions for CDMA tech us not open source. Not even in Android.
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Ahh yeah, I forget about the Verizon testing/certification fees. Was interesting that Essential released the phone before Verizon approved it (of course they paid the Qualcomm royalties, though), and then said later that it was certified to run on Verizon. People already were using them, but not using Verizon's official provisioning page that fixes Visual Voicemail and such upon activation, so there were quirks. Considering this, I suppose it would be quite a pain for OnePlus to go through the Verizon testing/certification for a relatively small amount of customers on the world stage.
zelendel said:
You can really give up on version support. CDMA is a hard area to get into as most of the phone functions are not open source and licensing is always an issue. Will just have to wait for Version to get off of the old standard and use something that isnt 50 years old.
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Poor effort...if essential can manage to do it while being a way smaller company OP can do it especially when their owner is Oppo.
The fact is they don't want to..for whatever reason..it's not about money, they have it..it's not about time, they have had it. So let's stop with those excuses.
From Pete Lau:
As for our carriers, OnePlus will partner "if we can find the right fit," according to Lau, who suggested that OnePlus fans on Verizon reach out to their carrier to get Verizon "to come to us."
"If we can keep creating good products and getting a lot of positive word of mouth from our users, and have the users push Verizon to come to us, that will make things a lot easier," he said.
Source: http://uk.pcmag.com/oneplus-5t/92062/news/pete-lau-wants-you-to-trust-oneplus
tahlsr said:
Unfortuately, the leak shows no band 13: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/oneplus-5t-leak-t3703244
You can read more if you like as to what that means as that was the same with OnePlus 5: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/verizon-compatibility-t3623695
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I'm not sure where you live exactly but I was on Verizon for over 10 years and finally dumped them so I could get the oneplus 5. I switched to cricket which uses AT&T's network and I get at least 99% of the coverage I did before.
Unless you are truly in the sticks I bet a GSM network would work fine for you. I live in North Dakota so believe me when I say we are not the first to get new cell technologies by any means.
I sold y oneplus 5 while watching the launch event and am now patiently waiting for tomorrow so I can order the 5T.
With Verizon's LTE network being to a mature state I find myself on CDMA MAYBE once every six months. Could this be used on Verizon as an LTE only device if you already have an active sim? Also, I see band 13 is not supported, is this not supported in the hardware or is the band support there and it is just disabled currently? If the latter is the case is there any chance it could be enabled by devs in the future? Really liking and wanting this phone but work pays for my service and only offer Verizon and I'm cheap and don't want to buy a plan just to get the phone. Thanks for anyone shedding some light on this.
I ordered this not knowing it was not fully compatible with VZW's network. It's a shame as this thing looks like a beast. I just cancelled my order.
Oh well, I have too many phones anyway.
Yesterday I said "screw it" and reordered the 5T. I got a plan with T-Mobile. If I can get good signal, I'll switch as all our other phones over since T-Mobile is much cheaper than VZW.
Just to clarify - does voice and sms work on Verizon? I'm on T-Mobile and one of the places I visit has Verizon coverage not T-Mobile. I carry a payg phone for those visits. Don't need data just the ability for people to reach me. Be nice if I could use my 5T for that.
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Tolax
Tolax said:
Just to clarify - does voice and sms work on Verizon? I'm on T-Mobile and one of the places I visit has Verizon coverage not T-Mobile. I carry a payg phone for those visits. Don't need data just the ability for people to reach me. Be nice if I could use my 5T for that.
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Tolax
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Voice does work. It does through 1x and you will get 3g most of the time. Not sure about MMS or SMS though.
This is likely a stupid question but I'm wondering since its a dual SIM if you can have a T-Mobile and a VZW SIM installed? Would that allow voice for VZW?
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This is likely a stupid question but I'm wondering since its a dual SIM if you can have a T-Mobile and a VZW SIM installed? Would that allow voice for VZW?
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Not stupid, and yes it does. I had a Tmobs and VZW SIM in a Oneplus 5 and it worked well together. But the VZW service is very poor.
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well sadly ill miss my old phone (LG G3) but its time i move on. Oneplus5T is the top of my list esp because of specs and price. camera and wireless charging doesnt matter to me (assuming if i did my research correctly!).
my question is this: i have ATT, how is the oneplus 5T (or even previous oneplus phones) LTE Speeds and connectivity compare to phones that are actually offered by ATT? such as LG or Samsung. is the LTE download speed the same? slower? are the calls stable(dont drop frequently). I just ask around and some people say the speeds arent the same. any input? i appreciate any input!
thanks in advance!
I have experienced faster speeds compared to an iPhone, it's going to be based off location though, one spot I get nearly 80mbps at one time, I work at att and I have tested multiple devices and it was pretty comparable and even beat out some flagship
I get about 45mbps with my 5T at home to where I got 13mbps with my 3T and att LG v20
Bradl79 said:
I have experienced faster speeds compared to an iPhone, it's going to be based off location though, one spot I get nearly 80mbps at one time, I work at att and I have tested multiple devices and it was pretty comparable and even beat out some flagship
I get about 45mbps with my 5T at home to where I got 13mbps with my 3T and att LG v20
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Have the IMEI issues been resolved with the 5t and ATT? Im thinking of getting a 5t and porting over a number switching to ATT.
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I have not come across any issues, I just sim swapped though
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I have not come across any issues, I just sim swapped though
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thanks for your input. mines supposed to come in soon, looking forward to it =D i just have to find an old phone from att that uses the same type of sim to get mine running. or maybe one of those sim punchers to cut my sim into a nano.
Hey whats up! Surprised not more people talking about the release. Samsung is selling the Verizon LTE version. Can I buy this version now and use it with Criketwireless (they use att network) or other? Or we don't know yet? I am not sure how all that works. Thanks
all of my verizon branded devices from the last couple years will allow a non-verizon sim, but will have a big fat triangle exclaimation mark notification that never leaves the notification panel stating that a non-verizon sim card is inserted.
I do not have experience with this device, but I imagine they will do the same thing. @[email protected]
That would annoy me. Thanks if anybody can let me know thanks.
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Picked up the Verizon model SM-T837V , and have it working on AT&T. (Colorado)
Not getting very good speeds, had to set the values for the AT&T apn , maybe i did that wrong. None the less it is working on AT&T shows as HSPA+ network under Sim status
Oh so works on att.. Can I ask where you got it so quickly? Verizon store has it? How much cheers
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SovRoxx said:
Oh so works on att.. Can I ask where you got it so quickly? Verizon store has it? How much cheers
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Verizon store by my house had them. apparently only has the 64gb model.. One thing i noticed it would not check for system updates unless I was on wifi.. if i was on ATT it gave some sort of authentication error when i checked for updates..was worried but then tested under wifi and it had no issue.. I do get a "not Verizon sim " warning that seems to be caused by an app called "Setup Wizard" , which i force stopped and the warning went away... (until reboot of course)
Was 729 $ , I want to replace my ipad pro on ATT with this, I just wonder what other issues I may encounter later using a Verizon tablet on ATT. I wonder would it be better just to leave it on Verizon and pay for both Verizon and Att data plans.. Verizon coverage at my house is horrible so I would rather not switch my cell phone over from att, but the tab would be on wifi at home so......
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Verizon store by my house had them. apparently only has the 64gb model.. One thing i noticed it would not check for system updates unless I was on wifi.. if i was on ATT it gave some sort of authentication error when i checked for updates..was worried but then tested under wifi and it had no issue.. I do get a "not Verizon sim " warning that seems to be caused by an app called "Setup Wizard" , which i force stopped and the warning went away... (until reboot of course)
Was 729 $ , I want to replace my ipad pro on ATT with this, I just wonder what other issues I may encounter later using a Verizon tablet on ATT. I wonder would it be better just to leave it on Verizon and pay for both Verizon and Att data plans.. Verizon coverage at my house is horrible so I would rather not switch my cell phone over from att, but the tab would be on wifi at home so......
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Hi, are you still only getting hspa speeds?
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Hi, are you still only getting hspa speeds?
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Took around town with me yesterday and tested a few times, never got over 2 or 3 Mbps on ATT , but testing with the Verizon sim I got 40Mbps ish but that was at the Verizon store it self... I dont know much about bands or even signal strength etc... currently LTE Discovery shows me on HSPA+ -83.0 dBm and my speed test was 1.97 Mbps Down 0.28 Up .
Was going to bring it into the AT&T store today and check again.
the APN I am using
Name: ATT Broadband
APN: Broadband
Proxy: Not set
Port : Not Set
Username: Not Set
Password: Not Set
Server : Not Set
MMSC :Not Set
Multimedia message proxy : Not Set
Multimedia message port : Not Set
MCC : 310
MNC: 410
AUth Type: Not Set
APN type: default,mms,supl,hipri,fota
APN protocol : IPv4/IPv6
APN roaming : IPv4/IPv6
Bearer : Unspecified
Mobile virtual network operator type : None
SovRoxx said:
Hey whats up! Surprised not more people talking about the release. Samsung is selling the Verizon LTE version. Can I buy this version now and use it with Criketwireless (they use att network) or other? Or we don't know yet? I am not sure how all that works. Thanks
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I bought the Verizon model and plugged in my T-Mobile sim card and it worked straight away.
On a side note, I went straight to the APN section expecting to have to manually enter my T-Mobile APN and was pleasantly surprised to see it was already in there along with: Consumer Cellular, Family Mobile, LYCA, MetroPCS, Multibrand, Project Fi, Red Pocket, Republic, Ting, Tracfone, Ulta, Vodafone & Walmart.
So I would guess it has all of the cellular radio frequencies onboard.
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I bought the Verizon model and plugged in my T-Mobile sim card and it worked straight away.
On a side note, I went straight to the APN section expecting to have to manually enter my T-Mobile APN and was pleasantly surprised to see it was already in there along with: Consumer Cellular, Family Mobile, LYCA, MetroPCS, Multibrand, Project Fi, Red Pocket, Republic, Ting, Tracfone, Ulta, Vodafone & Walmart.
So I would guess it has all of the cellular radio frequencies onboard.
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hello i'm in canada and planning to get the verizon version . but do it has the dial pad as the international and if yes have you tried to change the csc to remove verizon bloatware?
Cheers guys
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Verizon store by my house had them. apparently only has the 64gb model.. One thing i noticed it would not check for system updates unless I was on wifi.. if i was on ATT it gave some sort of authentication error when i checked for updates..was worried but then tested under wifi and it had no issue.. I do get a "not Verizon sim " warning that seems to be caused by an app called "Setup Wizard" , which i force stopped and the warning went away... (until reboot of course)
Was 729 $ , I want to replace my ipad pro on ATT with this, I just wonder what other issues I may encounter later using a Verizon tablet on ATT. I wonder would it be better just to leave it on Verizon and pay for both Verizon and Att data plans.. Verizon coverage at my house is horrible so I would rather not switch my cell phone over from att, but the tab would be on wifi at home so......
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Thanks! Well... Verizon store had one here but no keyboard case... So I found I couldn't get the half off deal if one doesn't check out both units at the same time. So I went to best buy for wifi... Got a grey version. Like it so far.... Screen is great for movies, maybe wish was a bit more snappy to navigate around like i can with my s7 edge lol... But that may an illusion as the screen is bigger on s4 taking longer to reach around the screen with hands. Still less tiring than ipad for me with all the hand sweeps when busy.
Also little disappointed in multitasking.. Wish was a floating app u can sweep from the side over an active app pair so u can easily reference 3 apps fast.. Can kinda do that on ipad i think.. Ill figure it out! And many apps i use cant multitask pair which annoying not samsung fought I guess. Still worth it
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Airfoil said:
I bought the Verizon model and plugged in my T-Mobile sim card and it worked straight away.
On a side note, I went straight to the APN section expecting to have to manually enter my T-Mobile APN and was pleasantly surprised to see it was already in there along with: Consumer Cellular, Family Mobile, LYCA, MetroPCS, Multibrand, Project Fi, Red Pocket, Republic, Ting, Tracfone, Ulta, Vodafone & Walmart.
So I would guess it has all of the cellular radio frequencies onboard.
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What kind of speeds are you getting with it on T-Mobile? Are you getting good LTE speeds? I want to get one, but am on T-Mobile (and not switching). Sprint launched their version today, but am I not confident T-Mobile will get one. There was only one CNET article that stated T-Mobile would get it.
Thanks!
KazimierzW said:
What kind of speeds are you getting with it on T-Mobile? Are you getting good LTE speeds? I want to get one, but am on T-Mobile (and not switching). Sprint launched their version today, but am I not confident T-Mobile will get one. There was only one CNET article that stated T-Mobile would get it.
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I live in a bad spot for speed testing, at my house I get around 10 Mbps up/down. I just drove up the street a mile or so and checked there and got ~30 Mbps up/down. As I roam around tomorrow I'll do some additional speed tests and see how it performs.
Update: I ran a few speed tests this morning, I was seeing download speeds up to 75 Mbps, and Uploads up to 30 Mbps on the T-Mobile sim.
SovRoxx said:
Hey whats up! Surprised not more people talking about the release. Samsung is selling the Verizon LTE version. Can I buy this version now and use it with Criketwireless (they use att network) or other? Or we don't know yet? I am not sure how all that works. Thanks
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I wouldn't even consider buying a verizon version when the Korean model has LTE, 6gb ram, 256gb storage, phone capability, and is world unlocked with no bloatware. I bought one and it's the best thing since sliced bread! ebay is selling them like hot cakes. Be careful to only get the non cell provider version, you don't want korean bloatware either. It exists! https://www.samsung.com/sec/tablets/galaxy-tabs4-t835/SM-T835NZKNKOO/
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I wouldn't even consider buying a verizon version when the Korean model has LTE, 6gb ram, 256gb storage, phone capability, and is world unlocked with no bloatware. I bought one and it's the best thing since sliced bread! ebay is selling them like hot cakes. Be careful to only get the non cell provider version, you don't want korean bloatware either. It exists! https://www.samsung.com/sec/tablets/galaxy-tabs4-t835/SM-T835NZKNKOO/
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Hey GradyNYC!
I had initially wanted a 256GB LTE version until I saw that Verizon only had 64GB. I didn't realize they existed. Would you mind letting me know who you ordered from and how much customs duty you paid?
Thanks!
gradynyc said:
I wouldn't even consider buying a verizon version when the Korean model has LTE, 6gb ram, 256gb storage, phone capability, and is world unlocked with no bloatware. I bought one and it's the best thing since sliced bread! ebay is selling them like hot cakes. Be careful to only get the non cell provider version, you don't want korean bloatware either. It exists! https://www.samsung.com/sec/tablets/galaxy-tabs4-t835/SM-T835NZKNKOO/
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Wow cool! Yea I been using the 64gig for 14 days now. Wish I knew about this one! How much can you get it for all said and done?
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Wow cool! Yea I been using the 64gig for 14 days now. Wish I knew about this one! How much can you get it for all said and done?
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It's about a grand. They are going for $960 or so, then shipping. If you figure getting 64G LTE for About $750 in the US and the 256G WiFi version is $100 more than the 64G WiFI version, then you come to $850. The Korean versions have 6G RAM, so really, the price difference isn't out of the realm of reality. It is pricey to begin with. I'm figuring the added costs might be offset for me by the increased internal storage and memory benefits.
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It's about a grand. They are going for $960 or so, then shipping. If you figure getting 64G LTE for About $750 in the US and the 256G WiFi version is $100 more than the 64G WiFI version, then you come to $850. The Korean versions have 6G RAM, so really, the price difference isn't out of the realm of reality. It is pricey to begin with. I'm figuring the added costs might be offset for me by the increased internal storage and memory benefits.
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I tried the s4 64gb wifi version for 2 weeks and I had minor performance complaints and I had to weigh in if I was being too picky or not. I haven't had a tablet in years and kind of expected it to respond super snappy like my s7 edge. It doesn't ! Example, you don't have issues with this website even on the s4 with the menus and such? I think there is a small delay as the s4 needs time to load? sometimes? compared. I also sense s4 doesn't respond to super touch sensitivity compared to a cell phone?
I'd like a review between the 4 and 6gb model.
Yorgo1982 said:
hello i'm in canada and planning to get the verizon version . but do it has the dial pad as the international and if yes have you tried to change the csc to remove verizon bloatware?
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It does not have any dial pad. I think you're asking if it has the voice radios to use like a regular cellphone. I would guess NO as I've never seen that on a US model since the original Galaxy Tab (7inch), and that one required root and updated modem drivers to work.
For international. I've not seen it since the Tab S2. (Though the post above mentions that the Korean version does, pictures do not have earpiece speaker though)
As for bloatware, it is pretty light on bloat. Honestly, more Samsung bloat than Verizon bloat. I didn't csc, but I did promptly disable the MyVerizon app, Verizon security & privacy, samsung email & cloud, google gmail (I use google inbox).
I have never had the 4gb version, only the 6gb version. I do however have the note9 and the 6gb version tablet. They are at the very least equal in speed. I love the tablet and see no lag whatsoever. If I knew what i know now, I would have only bought the tablet. There are practical applications for the phone only; like size, but phone calls are crisp (tmobile) on the tablet. I have not taken it out of the keyboard case since day one. I have a pretty powerful windows computer with 16gb of ram and it has not been getting any use since I took this tablet out of the box. Everyone in my house is trying to get their hands on it. I bought a bluetooth mouse. It is a computer now, and a very fast one. If i hadn't turned in my note5 and tied to 2 years of credits. I would sell the note 9.
Came from Unlocked Note20 Ultra which I had zero issues with cellular reception on Verizon.
Bought the Unlocked Z Fold3 and have terrible cellular reception in nearly all places I never had issues on the Note20 Ultra.
Are the antenna bands different?
Is the new metal back or frame drastically reducing range?
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Came from Unlocked Note20 Ultra which I had zero issues with cellular reception on Verizon.
Bought the Unlocked Z Fold3 and have terrible cellular reception in nearly all places I never had issues on the Note20 Ultra.
Are the antenna bands different?
Is the new metal back or frame drastically reducing range?
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You got a bad phone. No issues on mine, same as S21ULTRA, and note 20
Try to change your SIM. It helped me.
I also changed the N20U to the FZ3 and I did not notice anything like that. I think the FZ3 has an even better coverage than the Note.
The only difference is that it switches more often from LTE to 3G, thus VoLTE turns off. But it's generally very good.
BTW WiFi coverage is much better.
I'm having the same type of issues. T-mobile here in areas where I had solid 5G or LTE I either have no service or it flips to edge/lte/5g. Probably going to send it back at this point.
Im tmobile and all is the same or better then my notw 10 plus was.
I did get a new sim card for 5g
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Im tmobile and all is the same or better then my notw 10 plus was.
I did get a new sim card for 5g
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I used the new sim card from Samsung as well R15. I had T-Mobile do a reset from their end and I did a factor reset and didn't use smart switch this time. I'm going to be traveling today so we'll see if it happens again. Fingers crossed.
T-Mobile in north Texas. I'm getting the same results as my Note 10+ did, using the same sim. 5G data is very fast. May be an issue with yours.
Can we say either way about the cellular performance?
Has anyone seen a video comparing F2 vs F3 cellular performance?
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I used the new sim card from Samsung as well R15. I had T-Mobile do a reset from their end and I did a factor reset and didn't use smart switch this time. I'm going to be traveling today so we'll see if it happens again. Fingers crossed.
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Don't use SmartSwitch if migrating to a different device or OS version... its not that smart.
Probably ok for migrating just your contacts though.
Next reload on my 10+ I'll test it same to same and see how it does. Definitely don't use it to back up critical data though... remember Kies?
AT&T in N Texas, from N20U to ZF3...Same. I get some network issues occasionally.
You might need a new sim, I'm thinking about doing that myself.
My fold is also the unlocked from Sammy.
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AT&T in N Texas, from N20U to ZF3...Same. I get some network issues occasionally.
You might need a new sim, I'm thinking about doing that myself.
My fold is also the unlocked from Sammy.
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New sim, install yourself, handle it like a stick of ram.
ESD can damage it; very little built in out of circuit protection. Most phone store salespeople handle them extremely carelessly... you pay the price when it fails sometimes even months, years latter. Most sim cards fail because of previous ESD exposure just like ram sticks.
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New sim, install yourself, handle it like a stick of ram.
ESD can damage it; very little built in out of circuit protection. Most phone store salespeople handle them extremely carelessly... you pay the price when it fails sometimes even months, years latter. Most sim cards fail because of previous ESD exposure just like ram sticks.
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Oh, I'm familiar. Build computers before, always upgrade my RAM myself, and have 3 Pi's running 3D printers. But that info is always helpful to someone.
I've noticed this too in low coverage areas. My oneplus 7t
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Don't use SmartSwitch if migrating to a different device or OS version... its not that smart.
Probably ok for migrating just your contacts though.
Next reload on my 10+ I'll test it same to same and see how it does. Definitely don't use it to back up critical data though... remember Kies?
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Why not? I used smart switch with no issues at all. Transferred everything from my oneplus 7t to the z fold 3. All it does is transfer general data and install the apk files that were on your previous data partition. It doesn't transfer any device specific apps or files.
Please back up your comments with reason and/or experience so you don't have people questioning things that they then have to spend ample time looking up
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Oh, I'm familiar. Build computers before, always upgrade my RAM myself, and have 3 Pi's running 3D printers. But that info is always helpful to someone.
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Lots of needlessly destroyed ram sticks out there...
Sims may have some input protection but you see how small they are.
Acoustichayes said:
I've noticed this too in low coverage areas. My oneplus 7t
Why not? I used smart switch with no issues at all. Transferred everything from my oneplus 7t to the z fold 3. All it does is transfer general data and install the apk files that were on your previous data partition. It doesn't transfer any device specific apps or files.
Please back up your comments with reason and/or experience so you don't have people questioning things that they then have to spend ample time looking up
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I've seen it screw up myself with contacts.
Seen it's predecessor Kies screw up.
If it works, fine, but don't rely on it.
It can save home settings, themes, etc and that can cause issues especially between devices.
Don't kill the messenger... others here have had trouble with it as well
It is not clear to me whether all problem are with 5G reception, 4G, or switching between the two.
I'm having terrible reception issues with my Z3. My network keeps shutting off and on. USA Verizon.
I have to undo what I wrote early. The Z3 has serious coverage problem. Very often, the signal goes missing, or the 3G-4G-5G networks switch like crazy
Broken record poster asks if this is a VZW problem in the US, or a bigger problem?
Also, there are problems with the phone folded or open?
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T-Mobile in north Texas. I'm getting the same results as my Note 10+ did, using the same sim. 5G data is very fast. May be an issue with yours.
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Depending on my testing