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[Q] KitKat 4.4 AOSP

AOSP development yet?

enochsalum said:
AOSP development yet?
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im playing with a 4.4 aosp build that aospa made for nexus 7(fhd) and it is amazing. the speed difference and smoothness of the OS is a huge step foreword,even in an early quick build. Lol now ill be perfectly happy as soon as they finish making a flashable gapps, and my note gets an aosp build, 4.3 or 4.4, i want to remove touchwiz!!! and yes i know, i could try to build it, and i have been trying,but im obviously missing something, cause i cant get anything to boot that isnt touchwiz

jackxlj said:
im playing with a 4.4 aosp build that aospa made for nexus 7(fhd) and it is amazing. the speed difference and smoothness of the OS is a huge step foreword,even in an early quick build. Lol now ill be perfectly happy as soon as they finish making a flashable gapps, and my note gets an aosp build, 4.3 or 4.4, i want to remove touchwiz!!! and yes i know, i could try to build it, and i have been trying,but im obviously missing something, cause i cant get anything to boot that isnt touchwiz
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The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
Essentially you want to take a Chevy Cobalt, and stick a Aftermarket engine in and and a Custom paint job. when it's said and done, it's still going to be a regular old Cobalt.

dragonstalker said:
The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
Essentially you want to take a Chevy Cobalt, and stick a Aftermarket engine in and and a Custom paint job. when it's said and done, it's still going to be a regular old Cobalt.
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i dont use the spen, nor have i ever. i have bought every single note, based on screen size alone,and the development community. i prefer aosp, i dont comment on others desire to use tw and the many many features it offers. I just dont use them, so would prefer to have a rom that didnt have them. I i used multiwindow, or spen,etc, i wouldnt ask for aosp. If google released a note 3 sized device, i would buy it, but since they dont, i buy the note series and wait for our genius devs to make me cm roms to play with

dragonstalker said:
The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
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A lot of us don't even use 98% of TouchWiz's gimmicky features - we just love the big display. I've had to install at least a half dozen apps AND Xposed just to get back a lot of what is built into CyanogenMod, for example.
One nice feature of TouchWhiz, though, is swiping down in fullscreen apps shows the hidden notification bar, but, 4.4 will have that feature stock now. Magazine, AirStuff, SmartFooScrollWhatever, SPen Blah... however, won't miss it. I'll probably miss the camera, since that's one of things that's often hit or miss when CM is first released on a new device. Oh, almost forgot: I'll definitely miss the nice InfraRed universal remote app that comes with the device, because the next best one costs $$$.

jackxlj said:
i dont use the spen, nor have i ever. i have bought every single note, based on screen size alone,and the development community. i prefer aosp, i dont comment on others desire to use tw and the many many features it offers. I just dont use them, so would prefer to have a rom that didnt have them. I i used multiwindow, or spen,etc, i wouldnt ask for aosp. If google released a note 3 sized device, i would buy it, but since they dont, i buy the note series and wait for our genius devs to make me cm roms to play with
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AH gotcha, In that case it makes sense. Always curious to find out why people purchase certain phones and then want to put Aosp on them.
And there are people working on AOSP, but until somebody gets a base, that is stable, we won't see it. From the guys i talk to, until the dev edition is released, Sammy is keeping a tight lid on it because they don't want another leak, like the S4 had
For the people that want it. I know it's not AOSP, but when I get this INT. RoM picked apart like i want it for the masses. I will work on a seperate Int. ROM that will have as much TW removed without breaking the phone. Or, just replace TW with a custom Launcher that will let me freeze all the garbage you guys don't care about.

aosp always takes time, bs tw roms, nothing to do with samsung, just a matter of devs having to create drivers, etc. im pretty sure one of the cm devs got cm running on the tmobile note 3, but it was to buggy to release.took a couple months for note 1,note 2, etc, we will have it soon. I may be wrong, but the nexus 5 may make the note 3 easier to get to aosp, because it uses the same chip set, so i think it may make things a bit smoother, not alot, but hey every bit helps!

only reasons i bought note 3 knowing nexus 5 was coming is
-5.7 screen
-sd card
-snapdragon 800

Wish someone could make an AOSP rom that has all of the s-pen features present. Would be the greatest of all time.

zmore said:
A lot of us don't even use 98% of TouchWiz's gimmicky features - we just love the big display. I've had to install at least a half dozen apps AND Xposed just to get back a lot of what is built into CyanogenMod, for example.
One nice feature of TouchWhiz, though, is swiping down in fullscreen apps shows the hidden notification bar, but, 4.4 will have that feature stock now. Magazine, AirStuff, SmartFooScrollWhatever, SPen Blah... however, won't miss it. I'll probably miss the camera, since that's one of things that's often hit or miss when CM is first released on a new device. Oh, almost forgot: I'll definitely miss the nice InfraRed universal remote app that comes with the device, because the next best one costs $$$.
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Same here. The Touch Wiz stuff is there to show off in commercials for the average brain dead consumer to think is cool. First thing I do is disable all the motion/eye crap. The pen is the only thing I miss, but I really only used that for Draw Something.

To all the guys that love aosp and not TW you should switch to the nexus 5. How could you not like any of the features? Camera and such? Having aosp is like ANY other phone as old as it gets. Stock Android is available for many devices. Note 3 has its own special set of features, removing it it's like a car with no wheels. Not one of kind anymore just like the phone your buddy has. 700 phone to look like a 200 device is just dumb. But that's yalls minds I guess.
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muqali said:
Same here. The Touch Wiz stuff is there to show off in commercials for the average brain dead consumer to think is cool. First thing I do is disable all the motion/eye crap. The pen is the only thing I miss, but I really only used that for Draw Something.
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Unfortunately i'm among those brain dead consumers that you speak of. I actually don't like Sammy software, and have not since the Behold For those that even remember that phone). I do on the other hand, use alot of the features that come with it as i'm an IT and it makes life easier for me to carry around the note 3 instead of a tab, and pen/paper, and lap top to be able to do what i can do with this.

Waiting CyanogenMod！

It's hard to lose wifi calling.
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dragonstalker said:
The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
Essentially you want to take a Chevy Cobalt, and stick a Aftermarket engine in and and a Custom paint job. when it's said and done, it's still going to be a regular old Cobalt.
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I think ultimately we(donate) and they(devs) make solutions. My proposition is to rebuild multi window via s command style, draw box you have a window, minimize you get a floating bubble(notifications on bubbles would make sense). I don't know how hard that would be to build for AOSP but Clean android and multi App Window would make for a very light weight and productive Rom. I believe something similar is soon to be released but not with this level of simplicity hardware/user wise. Plus I've seen multi window on aosp roms coming to play out so I can't imagine why this isn't feasible.
**update**
Omnirom is the name of the rom that will feature multi window on aosp.

chuko303 said:
To all the guys that love aosp and not TW you should switch to the nexus 5. How could you not like any of the features? Camera and such? Having aosp is like ANY other phone as old as it gets. Stock Android is available for many devices. Note 3 has its own special set of features, removing it it's like a car with no wheels. Not one of kind anymore just like the phone your buddy has. 700 phone to look like a 200 device is just dumb. But that's yalls minds I guess.
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Nexus 5 is a 5in screen.
Note 3 is a 5.7in screen.
And stock android can be modified to be far more unique than TW by the way.
And there are people who don't find any of these features useful, which was stated before. It will be a shame to loose the camera app though.
Nexus ONE

Nexus 5 has 0 microSD slots
Note 3 has 1 microSD slot

Plainly put I brought this phone for the hardware not the software. I would have brought this phone with out the spen and Samsung features lol
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joverclock said:
only reasons i bought note 3 knowing nexus 5 was coming is
-5.7 screen
-sd card
-snapdragon 800
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Yeah I had been waiting for the nexus 5, sold my n4 and decided to go with the note3, totally happy I did..

i dont want a 5" phone without sd, i want a 5'7 inch screen, with sd, and the note 3 looks way better then the n5. I dont like touchwiz,i hate it, but i love samsung hardware. The beauty of android is choice, why complain that other people have a opinion that isnt the same as yours?

Back Android,changes?

So I used to have a Samsung exhibit 2 4g until it lagged and froze with even minor task.
Went over to windows phone 8 and enjoyed it.(9 months)Lumia 521.
Only problem,the recent updates have made my phone unusable sometimes.
Now after the utter disappointment last time on android,I bought a nexus for $100.
Not too much invested.
Will all galaxy nexus roms work on the unlocked i9250?
Same specs as Verizon,but radios are different.
Also do launchers use up ram?
Lets say I install a separate launcher,are both stock and the other launcher in memory?
Or only the one in use.
It seems this phone will work out better.

jms_209 said:
So I used to have a Samsung exhibit 2 4g until it lagged and froze with even minor task.
Went over to windows phone 8 and enjoyed it.(9 months)Lumia 521.
Only problem,the recent updates have made my phone unusable sometimes.
Now after the utter disappointment last time on android,I bought a nexus for $100.
Not too much invested.
Will all galaxy nexus roms work on the unlocked i9250?
Same specs as Verizon,but radios are different.
Also do launchers use up ram?
Lets say I install a separate launcher,are both stock and the other launcher in memory?
Or only the one in use.
It seems this phone will work out better.
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Lag isn't going to be a big issue for you on a Galaxy Nexus. If you have the unlocked i9250, you cannot install Verizon and Sprint ROMs, unless you use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/flashable-zip-switch-roms-tuna-devices-t2362644
However, I'd stick with Unlocking, rooting, and installing an AOSP 4.4.2 stock ROM. Kitkat runs great on this phone.
Both launchers will NOT be in memory after you swipe the old one away from recents when you install and use your new launcher. I recommend using the Google Now Launcher.
Enjoy your Galaxy Nexus! It was definitely my favorite phone of the past, it's still good.

Beauenheim said:
Lag isn't going to be a big issue for you on a Galaxy Nexus. If you have the unlocked i9250, you cannot install Verizon and Sprint ROMs, unless you use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/flashable-zip-switch-roms-tuna-devices-t2362644
However, I'd stick with Unlocking, rooting, and installing an AOSP 4.4.2 stock ROM. Kitkat runs great on this phone.
Both launchers will NOT be in memory after you swipe the old one away from recents when you install and use your new launcher. I recommend using the Google Now Launcher.
Enjoy your Galaxy Nexus! It was definitely my favorite phone of the past, it's still good.
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I've unlocked my friends Verizon nexus and flashed recovery and rom. Just not too sure what to flash when I get mine.
Can you link me to a aosp 4.4.2 or miui v5 rom?
Don't want to brick my phone with the wrong zip.

jms_209 said:
I've unlocked my friends Verizon nexus and flashed recovery and rom. Just not too sure what to flash when I get mine.
Can you link me to a aosp 4.4.2 or miui v5 rom?
Don't want to brick my phone with the wrong zip.
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Stick with whatever's in your variant's forum. If you've done it before, then you shouldn't have a problem finding a right zip. No ROM is the best. I'd personally flash a 4.4.2 AOSP ROM.

[Q] Any timeframe for CM11 or AOSP suppost for this tablet?

Not sure if this has been answered already, and Im very appreciative of all devs here on XDA, but ive been holding of buying this tablet because as I love samsung's HW, touchwiz is a big nono, and such a flagship does surely deserve a CM11 or AOSP support....the question is whether work has begun or not.
Cheers and thanks y'all

A CM11 port already exists. Don't hope for anything officially of course.

aquist said:
Not sure if this has been answered already, and Im very appreciative of all devs here on XDA, but ive been holding of buying this tablet because as I love samsung's HW, touchwiz is a big nono, and such a flagship does surely deserve a CM11 or AOSP support....the question is whether work has begun or not.
Cheers and thanks y'all
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Which one? The T-700 or T-800? There's a mostly working CM ROM for the T-700, the T-800 has a port of that and most things work. I fear it's going to be a while, if ever, that we get a fully working AOSP ROM for the T-800.

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Which one? The T-700 or T-800? There's a mostly working CM ROM for the T-700, the T-800 has a port of that and most things work. I fear it's going to be a while, if ever, that we get a fully working AOSP ROM for the T-800.
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any idea why? sammy's hw is usually a dream to work on and unlocking bootloaders and such was easy...what happened?

and im interested in the T-800 btw

I took a gamble on getting the 10.5 and it has been a pretty mediocre experience so far. There is an awesome AOSP Rom (which may be CM11 now) for the T700, but nothing for the T800 lately, it seems to be dead in the water. Suzook took the time to port it for us T800 users, but something he was doing was against the rules on XDA so that shut it down
Using ThunderRom now, but TouchWiz ruins the device for me. Also battery is pretty bad.
It is still an ok tablet but I am curious to see what will become of development on Samsung products since they are starting to use non Snapdragon chipsets on certian products now.

Turbojugend said:
I took a gamble on getting the 10.5 and it has been a pretty mediocre experience so far. There is an awesome AOSP Rom (which may be CM11 now) for the T700, but nothing for the T800 lately, it seems to be dead in the water. Suzook took the time to port it for us T800 users, but something he was doing was against the rules on XDA so that shut it down
Using ThunderRom now, but TouchWiz ruins the device for me. Also battery is pretty bad.
It is still an ok tablet but I am curious to see what will become of development on Samsung products since they are starting to use non Snapdragon chipsets on certian products now.
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thats the reason why im holding back. I work at an electronics store and tried the tablet a few times....the software is so bloated and all those pseudo-magazine fx stuff they got going on is def not working. I really dont like how they change the overall feel of android, like placing the apps button on the bottom right, maybe intuetive but having spent 3 yrs on a CM rom, you get used to certain stuff. Also, with all this dev in HW, and touchwiz still feeling laggy, i dont see why sammy is continuing down this path

Just run Nova launcher then. No big deal.
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Zamboney said:
Just run Nova launcher then. No big deal.
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And it's pretty obvious it's not just about the launcher. Touchwiz permeates the entire OS in a way that stinks up and clogs up EVERYTHING.
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Turbojugend said:
I took a gamble on getting the 10.5 and it has been a pretty mediocre experience so far. There is an awesome AOSP Rom (which may be CM11 now) for the T700, but nothing for the T800 lately, it seems to be dead in the water. Suzook took the time to port it for us T800 users, but something he was doing was against the rules on XDA so that shut it down
Using ThunderRom now, but TouchWiz ruins the device for me. Also battery is pretty bad.
It is still an ok tablet but I am curious to see what will become of development on Samsung products since they are starting to use non Snapdragon chipsets on certian products now.
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They have been using Exynos in the past way before they caved in to Snapdragon temporarily.
My guess is they're looking to squeeze more profits by using their own SOCs.

aquist said:
any idea why? sammy's hw is usually a dream to work on and unlocking bootloaders and such was easy...what happened?
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Apparently CM doesn't like Exynos processors, which the 10.5 has, so there aren't any official CM builds just ported ROMs. It's completely possible to get CM on the 10.5, as we've seen, we just need a dedicated and knowledgeable developer to work on getting the ROM to work 100%.

At least we have root to stop or remove the crap we don't need until an overrated or fix this and break that rom comes along....until then root, pull out what you don't want, and slap Nova on it.
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Itchiee said:
At least we have root to stop or remove the crap we don't need until an overrated or fix this and break that rom comes along....until then root, pull out what you don't want, and slap Nova on it.
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That is a crutch that gives you the placebo effect of making it way faster. Bottom line it is TouchWiz that bogs this down, so until a true AOSP or CM comes out, you won't will see a major improvement.

It looks like dev is never going to happen for this tablet.

Android 8.0 Oreo Port

Any potential Oreo port for the note 4 verizon?

I second that..... It's a great phone still and the last with a replaceable battery. Plus we're already unlocked and rooted.

Would like to bump this again.
The note 4 is very powerful and stacks up to the latest flagship phones in many performance areas, great display, great snapdragon processor, overall an awesome phone. Especially now with a unlocked bootloader and rooted, would be awesome to resurrect this phone and get Oreo.
Here's a spec comarison from the note 4 vs the google pixel.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/products/lang/en_us/devices/galaxy-note-4,google-pixel/

Need my Oreo fix for my note 4
I hard bricked my of note 4 last year but it was such a great phone and with the removable battery I bought another note 4 and rooted it again the day I got it...
I have an Oreo rom working on my budget Moto g 2013 but not on my note 4
Cue judge Smails

Yes!!!

Surprised no other interests. Over 1k views and only 4 responses.

@maksimreder, give it time. I wouldn't be surprised if hsbadr comes up with a port. I think he would be our only hope, granted I don't see other ROM developers making a 7.0 ROM, maybe they just don't have the "know-how". Given what I've seen in terms of release schedules, if it does happen, I wouldn't count on it for maybe...a couple months, if it's gonna happen at all. HOPEFULLY, by the end of the year. I haven't followed, though. Is Android Oreo even complete? Has it been released and pre-installed on any new phones? I think we'd have to at least wait for that to happen, first if it hasn't, already.
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[/COLOR @maksimreder, give it time. I wouldn't be surprised if hsbadr comes up with a port. I think he would be our only hope, granted I don't see other ROM developers making a 7.0 ROM, maybe they just don't have the "know-how". Given what I've seen in terms of release schedules, if it does happen, I wouldn't count on it for maybe...a couple months, if it's gonna happen at all. HOPEFULLY, by the end of the year. I haven't followed, though. Is Android Oreo even complete? Has it been released and pre-installed on any new phones? I think we'd have to at least wait for that to happen, first if it hasn't, already.
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[/COLOR @maksimreder, give it time. I wouldn't be surprised if hsbadr comes up with a port. I think he would be our only hope, granted I don't see other ROM developers making a 7.0 ROM, maybe they just don't have the "know-how". Given what I've seen in terms of release schedules, if it does happen, I wouldn't count on it for maybe...a couple months, if it's gonna happen at all. HOPEFULLY, by the end of the year. I haven't followed, though. Is Android Oreo even complete? Has it been released and pre-installed on any new phones? I think we'd have to at least wait for that to happen, first if it hasn't, already.

Yeah thats fine, I just wished the 1k viewers that saw this thread would chime in and offer their support.

I'm sure Resurrection Remix will have Oreo very soon. Never understood why Lineage for the GN4 wasn't officially supported.

Well the biggest issue would be that 8.0 isn't supposed to have 32 but support but the nexus 5 and 6 both have Oreo ported to them so it should be possible hardware wise art least. I don't know enough about it to be sure, but I'd think lots of the nexus 6 changes could carry over to the note 4 considering they have nearly identical specs.

Would love to see an Oreo port for the Canadian Note 4.

Seriously Doubt this will happen, would be wonderful. There is a huge amount of work involved. A great Article is somewhere on here about making things work. From SHIMs to the Binaries. Qualcomm already said they wouldnt go back this far for drivers.. Honestly unless using a modded stock ROM this thing just doesnt work right on most ROMs. I will keep in the drawer as a backup, just ordered a N8 unlocked. Couldnt resist it at 650$ w/ free Dex & WiFi Charger via their app.

Well, I found a whole lotta nothing. But hey, here's a page that says the link was removed but will be re-added shortly. I'll believe it when i see it, but if you want to see it, here it is: http://rootmygalaxy.net/lineage-os-15-on-samsung-galaxy-note-4/
I suspect someone will post a link to an Android 8.0 ROM in these forums sooner or later. From what I understand, Android Oreo is the first ROM to not have a 32-bit version, which has probably hampered efforts.

Hi Guys just wanted to say I hope we get 8.0
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Well, I found a whole lotta nothing. But hey, here's a page that says the link was removed but will be re-added shortly. I'll believe it when i see it, but if you want to see it, here it is: http://rootmygalaxy.net/lineage-os-15-on-samsung-galaxy-note-4/
I suspect someone will post a link to an Android 8.0 ROM in these forums sooner or later. From what I understand, Android Oreo is the first ROM to not have a 32-bit version, which has probably hampered efforts.
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Such a great Phone in every way just got mine routed and boot unlocked 5.1 tried to go to 6.0 but i had to much trouble.
Pain in the but but I was pretty rusty.

bonesnj0 said:
Such a great Phone in every way just got mine routed and boot unlocked 5.1 tried to go to 6.0 but i had to much trouble.
Pain in the but but I was pretty rusty.
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Did you end up getting on 6.0.1 unlocked?
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I have an Oreo ROM on my Nexus 6, and I would love to have Oreo on my Note 4 also.
That said, I get 2.5 days of light use of my Note 4 with a NEW battery when running MOROM... 1.5 days typical use. can kill the battery in a bit over 6 hours if I really try.. (full brightness screen, no screen timeout, BT and WIFI tethering data to my Android car stereo, while streaming audio)
I would think ambient display would help a lot. Any way to keep the display as much black as is possible reduces power consumption tremendously. Being able to reject calls from a locked screen (98% black) instead of lighting it up more helps. Love Oreo based 6ROM on my Nexus 6. no downsides.

+1
I also would like to see this with S-PEN functionally working with the Oreo 8.1 on the Note4 that would be entirely epic I have five Note4's laying here all with there own problems. I'm not joking. all of them are just sitting here I have to buy batteries for etc. besides the Note4 I believe might very well be the last smartphone to ever possess the infrared beaming for remote control for your home fireplaces TVs air conditioners etc. and like others have mentioned to boot removable battery the most important thing.

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besides the Note4 I believe might very well be the last smartphone to ever possess the infrared beaming for remote control for your home fireplaces TVs air conditioners etc. and like others have mentioned to boot removable battery the most important thing.
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Xiaomi redmi 5 plus has both.

Isn't there an oreo port for other note 4's? just not verizon? Exynos I think?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...er-development/rom-crdroid-v4-0-beta-t3719777
All we need is one for the snapdragon platform...

enkrypt3d said:
Isn't there an oreo port for other note 4's? just not verizon? Exynos I think?
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That is for a XiaoMi phone, not the samsung Note 4.

Custom ROM's

So, I decided to root my Pixel 3XL and jump back into custom ROM's I haven't done it for years. What ROM currently available it the closest to plain AOSP without too many extrase, that has the most development? strange request, I know, but I would like to have the most pure AOSP ROM I can find.

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So, I decided to root my Pixel 3XL and jump back into custom ROM's I haven't done it for years. What ROM currently available it the closest to plain AOSP without too many extrase, that has the most development? strange request, I know, but I would like to have the most pure AOSP ROM I can find.
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AOiSP is pretty nice and DU is good too. But the 1st is closer to what you are looking for and both are updated regularly. DU (Dirty Unicorns) you will have to google. I haven't tried the others but from the descriptions they are the most I was interested in.

Shockingly, it seems the ROM scene is nearly dead, which is sad Right now, there's what 5 ROM's or less for the Pixel 3 XL ? This is Google's flagship top of the line device, there used to be dozens of ROM's for the Nexus phones back in the day. Really bums me out how the smartphone scene has died off in regards to rooting and ROM'ing, and don't even get me started on the DEAD Jailbreak scene too, JB's are practically done for iPhone's, which those phone desperately need, as stock iOS is pure sh!tt.
What happened to the good old days, of buying a T-Mobile Note II, or a AT&T S4 and rooting and ROM'ing the same day you unpackaged it.

I have found that in the end, I go back to stock rooted. The custom ROMs are basically stock, with a few other customization options added.

shiftr182 said:
I have found that in the end, I go back to stock rooted. The custom ROMs are basically stock, with a few other customization options added.
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I used to try just about any and every ROM that came along, but stock Android has evolved to the point that I'm quite happy with it. As long as I can root for Substratum, Pie, and Adaway that's pretty much all I need. Plus, all the stock features work as well. i.e the charging stand, etc.

Zorachus said:
Shockingly, it seems the ROM scene is nearly dead, which is sad Right now, there's what 5 ROM's or less for the Pixel 3 XL ? This is Google's flagship top of the line device, there used to be dozens of ROM's for the Nexus phones back in the day. Really bums me out how the smartphone scene has died off in regards to rooting and ROM'ing, and don't even get me started on the DEAD Jailbreak scene too, JB's are practically done for iPhone's, which those phone desperately need, as stock iOS is pure sh!tt.
What happened to the good old days, of buying a T-Mobile Note II, or a AT&T S4 and rooting and ROM'ing the same day you unpackaged it.
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I had an AT&T Galaxy SII Skyrocket that was stock for all of about 10 minutes. Those were fun times!

stock rooted FTW

jmartin72 said:
So, I decided to root my Pixel 3XL and jump back into custom ROM's I haven't done it for years. What ROM currently available it the closest to plain AOSP without too many extrase, that has the most development? strange request, I know, but I would like to have the most pure AOSP ROM I can find.
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Since you haven't installed a Custom ROM in "years". this guide might help: [Guide] Pixel 3 XL Android 9.0 (Pie) Unlock/Root/Install Images/Kernels/Recovery + by homeboy76
#11 has links to the Custom ROMs for the Pixel 3 XL.

The goods old days... However, at a time when most devices can't even be rooted or unlocked anymore, having root and a few ROMs is all we can hope for. Coming from a locked down tmo Samsung Note 8 this is a dream to me.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL

jmartin72 said:
So, I decided to root my Pixel 3XL and jump back into custom ROM's I haven't done it for years. What ROM currently available it the closest to plain AOSP without too many extrase, that has the most development? strange request, I know, but I would like to have the most pure AOSP ROM I can find.
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AOISP really good and pretty stable.
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Shockingly, it seems the ROM scene is nearly dead, which is sad Right now, there's what 5 ROM's or less for the Pixel 3 XL ? This is Google's flagship top of the line device, there used to be dozens of ROM's for the Nexus phones back in the day. Really bums me out how the smartphone scene has died off in regards to rooting and ROM'ing, and don't even get me started on the DEAD Jailbreak scene too, JB's are practically done for iPhone's, which those phone desperately need, as stock iOS is pure sh!tt.
What happened to the good old days, of buying a T-Mobile Note II, or a AT&T S4 and rooting and ROM'ing the same day you unpackaged it.
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Im not bias to either platform, Jailbreaking is still alive, and stock iOS is actually pretty rock solid. it's very stable and runs smoother than android. I own both phones, I can tell you from experience that iOS is much more polished than pie.

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AOISP really good and pretty stable.
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Im not bias to either platform, Jailbreaking is still alive, and stock iOS is actually pretty rock solid. it's very stable and runs smoother than android. I own both phones, I can tell you from experience that iOS is much more polished than pie.
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iOS is a train wreck especially the notifications. compared to Pie, using it is like trying to run under water.

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iOS is a train wreck especially the notifications. compared to Pie, using it is like trying to run under water.
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Totally agree. I like Apple's hardware, they make and design a beautiful looking smartphone with great hardware, but iOS ugh
no back button, notifications suck, no dark mode, widgets suck, the same grid full of app icons, like from 2007, that still in 2019, 12 years later, you are not allowed to move and place anywhere on the screen you would like. A phone call comes in, and takes up the entire screen, kicking you out of what you were doing. Still no T9 dialer. No AoD ( Always on Display )

Zorachus said:
Totally agree. I like Apple's hardware, they make and design a beautiful looking smartphone with great hardware, but iOS ugh
no back button, notifications suck, no dark mode, widgets suck, the same grid full of app icons, like from 2007, that still in 2019, 12 years later, you are not allowed to move and place anywhere on the screen you would like. A phone call comes in, and takes up the entire screen, kicking you out of what you were doing. Still no T9 dialer. No AoD ( Always on Display )
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I agree that Apples chip set that they have in the iPhone is miles ahead of the Snap Dragon. You are also right the software is stuck in time. It really hasn't changed much since the first iPhone.

Zorachus said:
no back button
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Not sure if you saw the XDA article that Android Q may replace the back button with a gesture.
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-gestures-back-button/

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Not sure if you saw the XDA article that Android Q may replace the back button with a gesture.
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-gestures-back-button/
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This makes my insides hurt

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This makes my insides hurt
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Yeah, mine too. I just realized I typed a smile instead of a frown. Fixed now.

I get rid of the stock buttons anyway. With Pie I get the traditional buttons at the touch of my finger.