Okay, so I just want to check if this is normal. If someone could confirm this, I would appreciate it.
Whenever a sound is played on HTC 10, I hear a slight little static sound for 3-4 seconds, and then it disappears. It happens when I use headphones or speaker.
My phone is stock, haven`t messed with some advanced audio settings.
The best way to check this is to go to settings --> Sound & notification --> Notification sound.
Play one of these sounds.
If played through speaker, put the lower part of the phone (where the speaker is) to your ear, you should hear a very slight static sound that disappears 3 seconds after the sound is played.
FIXED : It is kernel related, flashing Elemental kernel v18 (which has Analog gain headphone feature) introduced static noise, reverted back to v16, no static noise anymore.
Credits to @Blue305 for pointing it out and @mosincredible for the helpful posts!
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Okay, so I just want to check if this is normal. If someone could confirm this, I would appreciate it.
Whenever I enter youtube and play a video and then pause it, I hear a slight little static sound for 3 seconds, and then it disappears. It happens when I use headphones or speaker, and when I use a music player.
The best way to check this is to go to settings --> Sound & notification --> Notification sound.
Play one of these sounds.
If played through speaker, put the lower part of the phone (where the speaker is) to your ear, you should hear a very slight static sound that disappears 3 seconds after the sound is played.
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My ear is not the best, but on default settings , without audio gain or audio analog gain, i cannot hear static. Have you modified those settings?
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My ear is not the best, but on default settings , without audio gain or audio analog gain, i cannot hear static. Have you modified those settings?
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Tho, the speaker part of the soc codec is not in relation with those settings, so just ignore my previous comment.. so basically I can't hear static, but my ears aren't the best, especially with low volume noises.
tbalden said:
Tho, the speaker part of the soc codec is not in relation with those settings, so just ignore my previous comment.. so basically I can't hear static, but my ears aren't the best, especially with low volume noises.
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Thanks for the reply, but no, I have not modified hedphone analog gain or volume gain settings. The static sound can be heard for 3 seconds with headphones as well. Tried 3 pair of headphones, the slight static hiss is always there.
I wonder if this is normal or not
Okay, can someone please check if he has the static sound from speaker/while on headphones ?
Just realised that the static sound/hiss happens only on low impedance headphones, like the HTC headphones that came with the phone, Sennheiser Cx400 and all other average in-ear headphones.
Can someone test this and report back if he has the static sound for 3-4 seconds when a song is paused ?? Or when a youtube video is paused
CroCop18 said:
Just realised that the static sound/hiss happens only on low impedance headphones, like the HTC headphones that came with the phone, Sennheiser Cx400 and all other average in-ear headphones.
Can someone test this and report back if he has the static sound for 3-4 seconds when a song is paused ?? Or when a youtube video is paused
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I can confirm the static is there in the exact way described in the original post. Comes on for 3 to 4 seconds when audio is paused. Tested on stock ROM with latest unlocked US firmware using HTC Pro Studio headphones, Sony EX90s, and the headphones that came with my iPhone 6s.
Edit: The problem is worse in games. From Riptide Renegade to Real Racing 3 to my little boy's Lego games, the low level static is present and does not drop off as it does with video clips and audio.
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I can confirm the static is there in the exact way described in the original post. Comes on for 3 to 4 seconds when audio is paused. Tested on stock ROM with latest unlocked US firmware using HTC Pro Studio headphones, Sony EX90s, and the headphones that came with my iPhone 6s.
Edit: The problem is worse in games. From Riptide Renegade to Real Racing 3 to my little boy's Lego games, the low level static is present and does not drop off as it does with video clips and audio.
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So you have it as well on a stock phone.
It's worse for me too in games, like for example "Smash hit", I turn the volume all the way down in both game and phone and I still hear that whitenoise static sound. When I go back to homescreen, I hear the static for like 3 seconds more and then it ends Until I go back to the app
For a phone that's reason for being is primarily audio, this is an unforgivable oversight and flaw (in my opinion). Will be returning to HTC.
I expected it to be impedance related and it is. The higher up the impedance latter I go, the more faint the sound is. ie8 > t51i > m50 > dt770 80 ohm > hd600. I prefer higher impedance headphones anyway so this doesn't bother me as I rarely listen to my ie8. I'd give this same test to an iPhone but is have to wait until I get with the girlfriend.
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I expected it to be impedance related and it is. The higher up the impedance latter I go, the more faint the sound is. ie8 > t51i > m50 > dt770 80 ohm > hd600. I prefer higher impedance headphones anyway so this doesn't bother me as I rarely listen to my ie8. I'd give this same test to an iPhone but is have to wait until I get with the girlfriend.
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Your sennheiser IE8 headphones have the same impedance like my sennheiser CX400 (16 ohm).
So you hear static as well on these headphones ^^ ??
Maybe it is impedance related, but then again, why would I need to have 500$ high impedance headphones to get rid of static noise that should't even be there. Also, I like my headphones to be discreet, not big, and those are always low impedance (16-32 ohm). This is a serious flaw in my eyes.
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Your sennheiser IE8 headphones have the same impedance like my sennheiser CX400 (16 ohm).
So you hear static as well on these headphones ^^ ??
Maybe it is impedance related, but then again, why would I need to have 500$ high impedance headphones to get rid of static noise that should't even be there. Also, I like my headphones to be discreet, not big, and those are always low impedance (16-32 ohm). This is a serious flaw in my eyes.
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Tried the same audio (video, music and games) on my iPhone 6s with the same headphones (listed in my previous post) and had no issues whatsoever. Very unfortunate. The HTC 10 is a beautiful phone and I want to keep it, but this is something that wouldn't happen on a cheap phone from Target. Insane their engineers did not pick this up.
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Your sennheiser IE8 headphones have the same impedance like my sennheiser CX400 (16 ohm).
So you hear static as well on these headphones ^^ ??
Maybe it is impedance related, but then again, why would I need to have 500$ high impedance headphones to get rid of static noise that should't even be there. Also, I like my headphones to be discreet, not big, and those are always low impedance (16-32 ohm). This is a serious flaw in my eyes.
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Well, I'll take my statement a step further. Your ability to hear the sound is impedance related. I believe the actual sound is software related. I've experienced it on the past 4 phones I've owned. With the phone that drives my headphones the weakest also being the phone that has minimal noise.
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ryansc375 said:
Tried the same audio (video, music and games) on my iPhone 6s with the same headphones (listed in my previous post) and had no issues whatsoever. Very unfortunate. The HTC 10 is a beautiful phone and I want to keep it, but this is something that wouldn't happen on a cheap phone from Target. Insane their engineers did not pick this up.
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If weaker happens to be aligned with less noise for very low impedance headphones, I'll take the HTC 10 over other options. Does the iPhone drive high impedance headphones to same volume as the 10? And when you're bringing a different OS into the mix, you have a lot of other variables such as how the software handles outputting a sound.
I have the same problem with my Sennheisers CX300 II on elemental kernel.. the funny thing is I've only start to have it this issue after they started playing with the analog gain..
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I have the same problem with my Sennheisers CX300 II on elemental kernel.. the funny thing is I've only start to have it this issue after they started playing with the analog gain..
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Bingo! After reading this, I went back to v16 of elemental kernel which is before the analog gain feature was added and the static is gone even on my ie8.
I had the same situation as Blue305. Was on cleanslate kernel and then flashed Ex kernel to see battery life and everything, after that started noticing static noise like everywhere.
I thought it wasn`t kernel related
V16 Elemental kernel with no analog gain features fixed it
@ryansc375, do you possibly also have elemental kernel installed or something similar ?
CroCop18 said:
I had the same situation as Blue305. Was on cleanslate kernel and then flashed Ex kernel to see battery life and everything, after that started noticing static noise like everywhere.
I thought it wasn`t kernel related
V16 Elemental kernel with no analog gain features fixed it
@ryansc375, do you possibly also have elemental kernel installed or something similar ?
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Hey everyone, just finishing up a long day with the family. Read all the posts and will report back now that I have some time to geek out. Hopefully the static demon can be exorcised!
Okay, so after a full wipe and running the latest RUU for the unlocked U.S. version, I can say that the static issue is gone on my phone. I'm not sure what changed but I'm happy it's back to normal (on stock). If I root again and want to install a kernel I'll be sure to use v16 of elementalx or one that doesn't mess with the audio settings.
Tested v19 of Ex Kernel. Static persists. Staying on v16 for now unless a new setting in Ex Manager comes along to fix it.
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Tested v19 of Ex Kernel. Static persists. Staying on v16 for now unless a new setting in Ex Manager comes along to fix it.
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Hmm, he said he would fix the compounder or something to remove this issue.
Thanks for testing, let him know in his thread.
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I would like to use my Evo as a MP3 player when I exercise like I used to with my old Sony Ericssons and my iPhones, but the sound quality compared to just about every other phone or mp3 player I have ever owned is not very good.
Right now I am running Ava's Z3 ROM. It's supposed to have some audio enhancements. I also bought PowerAmp and use DSP Manager. I configure and tweak as much as I can. I would like the sound to be a bit louder through the headphones. The phone speaker and in-call volume are fine.
As far as I am aware there is no way whatsoever on this planet that the headphone volume can be increased, even if just a small amount, to the HTC Evo.
So beyond what I have done already, does anyone have any more ideas on how to get better sounding and perhaps louder music without actually having to change the mp3 itself?
Thanks!
Change your kernel.
There was just a thread about this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913585&highlight=sucks
I listen to music on mine all day long in a pretty loud environment (well, a lot of fan noise anyway) with no issues at about 3/4 volume . . . so I think the problem some people are having are with the earbuds/headphones they are using. Maybe try some with a lower impedance.
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Change your kernel.
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I read that some kernals can up the speaker volume and in-call volume but don't have much effect on media stuff, especially when it comes to headphones.
Is there a specific kernal you know of that boosts headphone volume?
Thanks!
NHLWil said:
There was just a thread about this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913585&highlight=sucks
I listen to music on mine all day long in a pretty loud environment (well, a lot of fan noise anyway) with no issues at about 3/4 volume . . . so I think the problem some people are having are with the earbuds/headphones they are using. Maybe try some with a lower impedance.
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Sorry I did a search, but just in the Q&A forum.
Some people are happy with the volume of the phone. I'm just used to things being a bit louder. When I'm running I hate hearing the sound of my feet and the wind etc..etc. The headphones I use have an impedance of 16. Is that too much?
Seen quite a few topics on this, seems no one has a solution.
What I'm trying to accomplish with this is to see if EVERY HTC One X has this problem of a hissing noise in the background.
The hissing noise sounds somewhat like television white noise, and is apparent when playing music at low volume and during quiet parts of a song.
Testing Method:
i) Using headphones/earphones/whatever that plugs in the headphone port,
ii) Play music or other audio.
iii) Turn volume down to zero (0%)
iv) Listen for the noise.
Repeat method with no headphones i.e. with speaker, and put speaker up to your ear (very close). Try and listen for the noise.
my one x has the issue too.
As far as i know this is not an issue and it's normal, try doing the same thing with any other device and you will hear the same thing, may be hard to notice sometimes but it's there ( I didn't notice this on my HOX until i read your thread )
I do have this hiss on my one x.It can easily be heard when the music is stopped and this hiss continues for a small second!
It drives me mad as I tend to listen to music on lower volumes compared to others...
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if it is for 2-3 seconds and then it stops, it's normal, not an issue, due to a low voltage signal the sound chip sends to audio device (whether that would be a simple earphone, or a full support Bluetooth audio kit) to announce that the sound broadcasting is finished... (fade out noise)
Same here.
At 0% volume mine does not hiss, however if I play a song then pause it there is a faint hiss for a second or two then it stops completely.
Here's another one, plug the charger in and here the buzzing/feedback through the earphones when charging...
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if it is for 2-3 seconds and then it stops, it's normal, not an issue, due to a low voltage signal the sound chip sends to audio device (whether that would be a simple earphone, or a full support Bluetooth audio kit) to announce that the sound broadcasting is finished... (fade out noise)
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No, the problem that I'm experiencing and trying to see if others experience is whether the hiss is happening DURING the music. I understand if you listen to music at above 50% you most likely will not hear it during the music.
Yes, I have got the same problem and it is caused by very poor SNR of One X DAC or analog circuit.
It is very annoying for me, as I use sensitive IEMs and my old HD2 has not got this issue at all - I just find hard to accept that I have to hear audio noise in 2012 flaghsip device. There are some workarounds possible that can POSSIBLY at least partially mitigate the problem:
1. Use less sensitive headphones
2. Use some kind of attenuator, like:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sound-lev...13488602?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item1e6f218cda
and increase listening volume at the same time
Issue confirmed. Could not believe that in this day and age I am confronted with such an obvious hiss on this top-of-the-line HTC phone.
Coming from the S2, I have not been impressed with the quality of the One X. I like the screen though, when I can't see any yellow spots, that is.
a704e said:
Seen quite a few topics on this, seems no one has a solution.
What I'm trying to accomplish with this is to see if EVERY HTC One X has this problem of a hissing noise in the background.
The hissing noise sounds somewhat like television white noise, and is apparent when playing music at low volume and during quiet parts of a song.
Testing Method:
i) Using headphones/earphones/whatever that plugs in the headphone port,
ii) Play music or other audio.
iii) Turn volume down to zero (0%)
iv) Listen for the noise.
Repeat method with no headphones i.e. with speaker, and put speaker up to your ear (very close). Try and listen for the noise.
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Will an external DAC help with this problem, if even usable with a phone?
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I probably should have said in my original post but yes I have the issue and noticed it....
Alternative was to use Bluetooth, I personally might get an APT-X adaptor thats portable so I can connect to my home cinema system or car stereo through the jack input....
I wonder if there's any One X without this problem, such as newer batches etc
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Will an external DAC help with this problem, if even usable with a phone?
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If you can feed it a digital signal, then yeah, by all means it would help. I've not looked into it, I dunno if it's possible.
about 3 peoples said there it is normal so why continue this ? lol it have everything that make music,sounds.. its normal due to low voltage to earphones and there is currently no technology that can stop this noise...
Sramie said:
about 3 peoples said there it is normal so why continue this ? lol it have everything that make music,sounds.. its normal due to low voltage to earphones and there is currently no technology that can stop this noise...
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Larger sample size. And also speaker out has this problem, not just headphones. And why other phones don't have this problem?
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cfm +1
using music app or tune in radio connecting to my cars aux in via 3.5mm connection cable to utilize audio device and loudspeakers in car, and it is even more noticeable.. (the sound is great though) also you hear hiss and noises as inerference effect from the the engine clearly in silence between track changes
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I have it as well, but im pretty sure iv heard the exact same noise on most consumer devices ive had like my ipod and old s2.. didnt even think about it till i saw this thread.
If it bothers you that much just email htc and see what they say...
I really like this phone, everything about it is great for me EXCEPT the sound quality. Anything that has to do with the headphone jack is an absolute disaster.
First off I have not experienced the dreaded AUX problem but I have experienced random pausing and skipping - as if I was pressing music controls on my headset - both in my car and on my headphones. I think a headphone jack is starting to wear?
Next I have experienced terrible distortion and static in the left channel, that was until I rooted and Installed Viper4Android. While the problem didn't go away entirely its much better than stock.
Im using my g3 with 3 or 4 devices....
My Acura's line in with Subs/Amps ect.
Shure SE846 In ear monitors
Fiio e6 amp (with the shures, sometimes helps sound quality)
Bluetooth to my Bose Soundlink
The flaws of the g3's sound output are noticeable on any of these, even the bluetooth soundlink and ESPECIALLY, on the SE846 direct.
I created this thread because I dont know what to do, its apparent I am an audiophile and care about my sound quality and youd think Id invest in some sort of MP3 player (I do have a Clip+ ) but I really enjoy using spotify. Should I buy a DAC and just avoid the g3s sound card all together or call and fight with LG and see what they can do?
Is anyone else having these problems? I have the Verizon Device.
I use Westone's connected through a Sony SB52. I haven't noticed any issue except that I like Sony's Walkman app better on my Xperia than LG's player.
I'm fairly picky about music quality and I haven't noticed any issues at all with my HD419s (the only headphones I have right now). Audio quality through aptx bluetooth directly to a car amp and polk component speakers is as good as one would expect too. No skipping or pausing with LG's app. Is that happening when your screen is on? Try turning it off, maybe it's a screen issue? Or maybe it's a glitch with the app you are using? The only problem I had with it was how quiet it was with headphones but the fix with root worked well.
There are several threads about the strange hissing sound - which I also got myself. LG has told me that they're working on fixing it and that it's a known flaw in the current ROMs.
I just got mine and I think this is the best sounding phone I have ever heard. Of course my expectations were very low after my experience with Apple and Samsung.
This opinion is coming from a very jaded HiFi gearhead so your mileage may vary.
The problem I'm facing..
There is noise+distortion+hissing during call
And when headphones are connected I cant understand or listen any thing I only hear wired noises..
Any fix guys ?
Dont know if its technical or software based issue
The sound quality has been noticeably bad for me using headphones also, bluetooth isn't too much of a problem and works fine.
I just got my headphone jack replaced free from LG (as it was doing the random skipping thing) - I quoted that it was a known problem (i mean look on XDA for all the threads) and as my phone was under warranty, i flashed stock firmware and sent it back - when i got it back in 48 hours it was replaced and working. They even cleaned the screen for me lol.
I don't use a headset, only headphones, and the quality is most noticeable on my sennheiser hd800s, but also on my beyerdynamic headphones. Install Viper audio and it improves slightly.
I got mine replaced today as well.
New phone bingo !!
Title says it all. Post your suggestions and experiences with headphones that maximize the audio potential of this phone.
That quad DAC when wired and APTx when on BT.
CHH2 said:
Title says it all. Post your suggestions and experiences with headphones that maximize the audio potential of this phone.
That quad DAC when wired and APTx when on BT.
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I'm listening to my Sennheiser HD 598's right now using the quad DAC (high impedence). It is definitely driving them very well, I get my Audioquest Dragonfly black in tomorrow so I can try A&B comparisons with that vs the internal audio. I've also enjoyed using it with my Backbeat Pros but those do not have aptx.
I'm using my Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250 Ohm headphones, it's amazing. It's a step up from the V10, including the volume department (especially with high impedance headphones).
I'm currently listening music with the AKG K712s. No doubt an improvement from the V10. The best phone yet that truly brings out the detail in
WAV and FLAC formats. I swear this quad DAC reincarnated my cans
Should be getting my V20 some time today, I hope. I don't have anything truly God-tier, but I'm going to try to do a few comparisons if I can. I've got Shure SE215s on one hand (triple-flange tips) and Samsung earbuds for a baseline, compared to whatever LG's included in the box. In a few weeks, I can add the H3s to that list, but not until they arrive, and they won't arrive until I sign up for them on the 28th, so...
In the world of full-size cans, I don't have a solid baseline, and I'm not looking forward to the idea of spending $20 so I can have a pair of cheap cans I will never listen to again. So instead, all I've got are my Koss ProDJ100s and my V-Moda M100s.
But I'll try to give my thoughts when I can. (Also, posting so I make sure I remember that this thread exists.)
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I didn't get to really sit down and do heavy listening. Phone arrived pretty late and my fiancee was a little sad so I didn't want to have my headphones blasting for an hour or two straight without being able to hear a word.
Noticing that there is a little more clarity (at least) between the on-off settings. Might be some EQ going on as well, though, which is not what I want. EQ is an easy way to make something sound more "clear" without actually making it clearer. My last car literally had a setting that I used that I considered the "clear" setting, and for everything other than podcasts. The bass was deeper, and yet more articulated, and the highs had sparkle. Every other setting was muddy.
So EQing to a muddy sound, and then having a "hi-fi" EQ that clears up the mud isn't good. Still, like I said, I don't actually know that to be what's going on. It's just a possibility I'm keeping my ears open for.
Audio technica ATH-M50x Have to say, I can't hear a difference at all toggling on and off using Poweramp/Spotify/USB Audio Player Pro or Car with Bose speakers setup. What can be the reason? I was thinking it would sound better (or as good) as V4A. Not close for me. Maybe my phone's defective?
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Audio technica ATH-M50x Have to say, I can't hear a difference at all toggling on and off using Poweramp/Spotify/USB Audio Player Pro or Car with Bose speakers setup. What can be the reason? I was thinking it would sound better (or as good) as V4A. Not close for me. Maybe my phone's defective?
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Not sure if they fix the issue were the DAC was only able to be used by the stock music player. On the PlayStore there's an app that allows the DAC to work with all music players. I think it's called lgv10fix something like that. You can tell when you turn the DAC when your music skips or mutes for a second.
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Not sure if they fix the issue were the DAC was only able to be used by the stock music player. On the PlayStore there's an app that allows the DAC to work with all music players. I think it's called lgv10fix something like that. You can tell when you turn the DAC when your music skips or mutes for a second.
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Thanks. I found that and installed it but it's the same.
Sony MDR-EX800ST with Tape Mod via External (AUX) Audio Mode with adapter.
vibrantliker said:
Audio technica ATH-M50x Have to say, I can't hear a difference at all toggling on and off using Poweramp/Spotify/USB Audio Player Pro or Car with Bose speakers setup. What can be the reason? I was thinking it would sound better (or as good) as V4A. Not close for me. Maybe my phone's defective?
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There's probably nothing wrong with it.
Sound is an incredibly subjective topic.
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There's probably nothing wrong with it.
Sound is an incredibly subjective topic.
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So used to V4A nothing comes close.
I prefer PowerAmp Alpha...
Especially with my Sony MDR-100AAP in External Mode.
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I prefer PowerAmp Alpha...
Especially with my Sony MDR-100AAP in External Mode.
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What's external mode, something on your headphones?
All Hi Res iem or headphones will do the job, but it's up to your ears to know what is best, as all headphones/iem all have their own sound stage, for me I use the Sony list in my sig.
I was actually considering getting a pair of the A-T 50x's but those Senn's look nice too. (I'm a big fan of over the ear.)
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What's external mode, something on your headphones?
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By plugging in the detachable headphone cable into the LG V20's headphone jack first before connecting the cable to the headphones, causes the Hi-Fi DAC to go into "An External Audio Device Is Connected" mode which produces a higher output compared to "Normal" mode.
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By plugging in the detachable headphone cable into the LG V20's headphone jack first before connecting the cable to the headphones, causes the Hi-Fi DAC to go into "An External Audio Device Is Connected" mode which produces a higher output compared to "Normal" mode.
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I did not know that and will try it.
So excited to use my Custom Art Harmony 8 Pro, custom headphones with these. The V10 did a good job, I bet the v20 will be better!
For reference, here's the playlist I used to compare. I didn't want to spend all day doing tests, so this is mostly stuff I can listen to while I work, but trying to hit as many different sound signatures as I could. I don't have any classical in my collection, though probably I could have used some. I listened to most of the playlist (skipped around a little getting details) on my laptop for a little while before picking up the phone. Probably going to do some listening with the S4 mini I've got on loan from my wife, too. Would have been nice to compare the Note7, but it's already back in T-Mobile's hot little hands. Played using the
Acoustic Guitar
Leo Kottke (FLAC)
Vaseline Machine Gun
Watermelon
The Fisherman
Earl Klugh (MP3 320)
Alice in Wonderland
Moon River
Autumn Leaves (VBR V0)
Country/Folk
The New Lost City Ramblers (MP3 320)
Talking Hard Luck
Don't Let Your Deal Go Down
Old Fish Song
Charlie Daniels Band (MP3 320)
The Devil Went Down To Georgia
Uneasy Rider
Anais Mitchell (M4A VBR)
Epic, Part I
Hey, Little Songbird
Epic, Part II
Pop
The Killers (MP3 VBR, not V0)
Mr. Brightside
When You Were Young
Sia (FLAC)
Chandelier
Eye Of The Needle
Elastic Heart
Electronic
Super Eurobeat Presents: Initial D Special Stage Non-Stop Mega Mix (FLAC)
Killing My Love
Running In The 90s
Grand Prix
Kavinsky (MP3 320)
Night Call
Night Runner (OGG VBR)
After Hours
Nuclear Countdown
Hip-Hop/Trip-Hop
KA (MP3 320)
Just
Wax Tailor (FLAC)
Exordium
From the Dark
As for my thoughts:
First, I was surprised that as far as I can tell, LG hasn't included any headphones. That seems weird. I'm glad now that I have a million bajillion of the things lying around because if I just bought this off the shelf, it would be a long wait for LG to send me my "only" wired headset option. At least a few weeks. Disappointing, but not a deal-breaker by any means.
Started with the Samsung headset, Hi-Fi DAC off. It's not super comfortable, not at all isolating. I'm still listening to the last couple tracks and I can easily hear myself typing with the volume at around... well, in the Hi-Fi volume it would be 45. I should note that it goes much higher (I believe the highest is 65 or 75) but 45 is where I would typically listen to music. Louder than that started to strain my ears a little. Louder is generally better for detecting little things in a song, but I don't want to suffer, and I certainly don't want to suffer for the time it takes to listen to a 90 minute playlist 4 times at painful volume.
(Incidentally, someone above complained that it wasn't as good as V4A--I haven't listened to V4A in a long time, but my recollection was that it does 2 things: EQ and boost. All their stuff comes down to highly advanced adaptive EQ and a volume boost. Essentially an Instagram filter for your audio. That's all you really can do with a software solution, so I don't blame V4A's team, but what we're looking for with a hi-fi hardware DAC is closer to putting your glasses on if you're near-sighted: increased clarity without changing or coloring the sound any more than necessary, including volume changes. That's what your choice of headphones and your EQ settings are for, not your DAC.)
Moved to the Shures next. The SE215 has a slightly bassy sound, IMO, much better for dance music than e.g. the Koss cans. Not quite basshead cans. I was impressed by performance, and volume. I felt "comfortable" for the first half of the playlist before checking the volume and discovering it wasn't at 45, where I'd wanted it--I had it at 30! Turned it up to 45, and I was at a point where it wasn't quite uncomfortably loud. Which is to say, these things can push power to a pair of headphones no problem.
Equally surprised that the Koss cans didn't have an equivalent bump in volume from what I'm used to (which is maxed out on the Note7, and remember that I'm nowhere near maxed out on the V20). Oh, sure, I could have turned them up, but I didn't. Clarity was as-expected. Much better, I think, than the SE215s.
What I'm looking for here is silence and separation. On the country tunes, in particular, you end up with a mandolin, banjo, and guitar all fighting for 'space' on the recording, so I was listening to make sure I could make out guitar chords from banjo rolls from mandolin... whatever mandolin players do. I'm sure they're very important musicians. The other part I listened to carefully was the intro to Chandelier; There's an etremely isolated snare in the beginning, and it should fade to nothing, not fade to sort-of-nothing. I didn't get that with the Shures as much as I wanted, but I did get it with the Koss headphones.
V-Modas don't do much to change my opinion. The bass is defined, clear, not boomy. I'd say the V20 seems to have a fairly balanced sound signature, which makes sense because that more-or-less matches what I've heard about the B&O sound signature. If the V20 DAC was developed with their input, that would make a lot of sense.
So in the end, I'd agree with kms108:
kms108 said:
All Hi Res iem or headphones will do the job, but it's up to your ears to know what is best, as all headphones/iem all have their own sound stage, for me I use the Sony list in my sig.
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TheJesus said:
I'm using my Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250 Ohm headphones, it's amazing. It's a step up from the V10, including the volume department (especially with high impedance headphones).
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Can't wait to try my beyer's. Have exact same ones and custom one pros. Cop's are a more fun sounding headphone and a burning can push it. The 770's and cop's can put out mind rattling bass, and by that I mean rattle your chest, with the right content and amp. Can't wait to hear the sound signature of the 9218 with my assorted cabled gear.
Coming from Lenovo p2 which has similar designs ( both are from lemoto and the headphone jack and antenna seems to be in similar position). Lenovo p2 has this annoying static noise while using in-ear headphone, yes I say in-ear headphone because it won't happen on earbuds, only iems. I guess that's because earbuds have higher impedance? It's extremely audible when playing music at low volume. Anyway back to my original question, does such issue exists on moto z play? I did some Google there seems to be people complaining about this but I want confirmation from you guys. Try listening to some music at low volume using IEM and tell me if there is any hissing noise please. Thanks in advance
Yes it does - more so if you enable the stock equalizer. It is quite obvious if you listen to audio book or speeches in low volume.
Nougat update does have minimized it. Listening to music in low volume is cleaner.
However - the sound signature thro' audio jack is excellent - deep n solid feel to it
No static on any of my IEMs at volume steps 0,1 and 2 playing through Apple Music and PowerAmp.
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Yes it does - more so if you enable the stock equalizer. It is quite obvious if you listen to audio book or speeches in low volume.
Nougat update does have minimized it. Listening to music in low volume is cleaner.
However - the sound signature thro' audio jack is excellent - deep n solid feel to it
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They really need to fix this stupid design flaw. Doesn't this bother you? I think I need to invest in a Bluetooth headphone
Mine dose this too really annoying
Yes good decision. I almost always use my jaybird X3 to do away with that irritant.
No it doesn't. I have never experienced any hissing/static with my earphone. soundmagic e50.
vietkao said:
No it doesn't. I have never experienced any hissing/static with my earphone. soundmagic e50.
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Yea e50 has high impedance that's why, try an earphone with lower impedance
linkzex said:
Yea e50 has high impedance that's why, try an earphone with lower impedance
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How low?
uberano26 said:
How low?
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It happens to my 16ohm IEM, 16ohm belongs to the majority of IEM you should be able to find one with 16ohm easily
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It happens to my 16ohm IEM, 16ohm belongs to the majority of IEM you should be able to find one with 16ohm easily
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Again no static on any of my IEMs with an Impedance range from of 16 to 32Ω. The only little static i get is when i initially plug them in.
Yes you may get hiss with low ohm headphones, use better headphones.
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Yes it does - more so if you enable the stock equalizer. It is quite obvious if you listen to audio book or speeches in low volume.
Nougat update does have minimized it. Listening to music in low volume is cleaner.
However - the sound signature thro' audio jack is excellent - deep n solid feel to it
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Hey I have a favor to ask you can you try using over ear headphone and see if there is hiss? Tell me the headphone nameif you do so
linkzex said:
Hey I have a favor to ask you can you try using over ear headphone and see if there is hiss? Tell me the headphone nameif you do so
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These are my work arounds:
1. Installed Poweramp app
2. I use Poweramp in-built equalizer
3. I don't use default equalizer while using headphones.
My headphones:
1. audio technica ath-m50x (headphones)
2. shure se 215 (in ear type)
3. jaybird X3 ( blue tooth)
If you root it (I have not rooted this moto) Arise viper4A is an excellent option.
Please note the sound signature and audio output via headphone jack is excellent. It can even drive audio technica ath-m50x, which has heavy drivers with ease. If you don't use the system equalizer, post nougat update the hiss is almost not there.
This phone is an excellent value for money. I am using it for more than 6 month. It has a heft to it but feels solid in-hand. Buttery smooth, insane battery and zero heating (except while charging). I am very happy!
Jimi Mack said:
Yes you may get hiss with low ohm headphones, use better headphones.
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Sam_kaks said:
These are my work arounds:
1. Installed Poweramp app
2. I use Poweramp in-built equalizer
3. I don't use default equalizer while using headphones.
My headphones:
1. audio technica ath-m50x (headphones)
2. shure se 215 (in ear type)
3. jaybird X3 ( blue tooth)
If you root it (I have not rooted this moto) Arise viper4A is an excellent option.
Please note the sound signature and audio output via headphone jack is excellent. It can even drive audio technica ath-m50x, which has heavy drivers with ease. If you don't use the system equalizer, post nougat update the hiss is almost not there.
This phone is an excellent value for money. I am using it for more than 6 month. It has a heft to it but feels solid in-hand. Buttery smooth, insane battery and zero heating (except while charging). I am very happy!
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Huh why does equalizer matters... are you saying with ath m50 there is still hiss?
Jimi Mack said:
Yes you may get hiss with low ohm headphones, use better headphones.
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How about with 18 ohm impedance...sennheiser urbanite on ear