MMS Message size Limit - Note 7 Questions & Answers

Is there any way to increase this? I am on sprint and when sending a MMS of any kind it shirts the photo so mall you either can't see the whole thing or it looks so bad you can't see details in it. I have never had this issue before on any sprint phone but I have also been rooted in majority if my phone's
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I've note 7 and I'm having same problem. Two people (one has iPhone other Samsung) have sent me screenshots. It's really bad...only 1 out of 9 pics are received in viewable condition. Is there a setting on Note 7 that can be adjusted?

I hardly use SMS or MMS. I use whatsapp and signal and Google just came out with allo. All are cross platform.
I know your going to say but everyone doesn't use whatsapp. I find that most people do. Another option is Facebook messenger. I usually find that my friends at least one of the these messengers. The thing I like about signal is that it's like imessage in that another person with signal can communicate with you via encryption like imessage or whatsapp, but if the other person doesn't have signal, it sends it as an SMS or MMS.

I also use whatsapp, In my country the sms and mms are becoming extinct

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Group Texting

Is this only working when everyone uses Windows Phones?
Tried it today and the conversations weren't threaded at all. It basically put my outgoing in one thread and replies from people all in their own threads. It was impossible to follow the conversation.
Has anyone tried it?
Yes it have it set to use MMS for group texting and all the devices I was texting were Android and iPhone devices.
Edit: and yea, I'm 100% sure it wasn't using different protocols for different people, since they were sitting next to me when I tested it...
Also, replies from others in the group were only coming to me, which made it impossible for anyone else to follow the conversation.
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N8ter said:
Is this only working when everyone uses Windows Phones?
Tried it today and the conversations weren't threaded at all. It basically put my outgoing in one thread and replies from people all in their own threads. It was impossible to follow the conversation.
Has anyone tried it?
Yes it have it set to use MMS for group texting and all the devices I was texting were Android and iPhone devices.
Edit: and yea, I'm 100% sure it wasn't using different protocols for different people, since they were sitting next to me when I tested it...
Also, replies from others in the group were only coming to me, which made it impossible for anyone else to follow the conversation.
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Did any of the iPhones have iMessage enabled? I know it reverts to SMS if the recipient does not support iMessage. I suspect for Group messaging, it will revert to MMS. I am wondering if there may be an issue if some are MMS and others are iMessage.
Also, with iPhone's the numbers of all recipients are visible to all recipients.
http://www.moxiemoshow.com/group-messaging-iphone/
When you sent messages to the group, were all numbers visible to all recipients?
I am wondering if Mango implemented group text messaging in a way that does not expose the numbers of all recipients. If the numbers for all recipients are not visible to all recipients, then Windows Phone 7 and the iPhone don't implement it the same. So, on one of your friends phones, check to see if all numbers are visible for messages you sent. Since their replies only went to you, I suspect they are not receiving the numbers of all recipients.
I don't know how Android implements Group messaging. Since you didn't say any of your friends had issues, I am guessing it is the same way the iPhone does it. This probably means that iMessage isn't a factor.
Unfortunately, I cannot test this because I ported the number for my LG Quantum to Google Voice to use on my iPhone that work pays for. At some point, I will be getting a prepaid SIM to put in my Quantum so that I can test things, but I have not done so yet.
All I could see on the vibrant was that I got a message from myself. Nothing about other numbers. Biggest reason I wanted to do this is so that I can cc myself in every thread I start, giving me the ability to respond transparently from any of my devices.
Was traveling for 12 hours and people got confused when I swapped devices (and.sometimes I plain.just don't feel like switching off what I'm using at that moment). Don't think I message was the issue, since the android phones aren't working either.
I knowbiys sending an mms cause.I can see the empty subject field on all of the devices.
Maybe it only works for instant.messages?
This keyboard has the worse Autocorrect ever.
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There are lots of legitimate shortcomings of this wonderful platform, this is not one of them.
I mass-text enough. And I have never expected their responses to show up in the mass text field. How on earth would that be engineered?
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There are lots of legitimate shortcomings of this wonderful platform, this is not one of them.
I mass-text enough. And I have never expected their responses to show up in the mass text field. How on earth would that be engineered?
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Although i haven't used the group texting, i wouldn't expect it either to do what i think he is thinking it would do.
Windows Phone keeps history on all your contacts and what each contact has said under that contact. It's not a forum with all of your users joining a thread and posting for all to see. It would make sense that the response to your text came from just that person. It's not designed to let everyone see the response, only the response coming from that person to you. If it allowed more than it would be group instant messaging or group chat. That is not what it is.
Also... isn't what you are trying to do, what email is for? would make more sense.
sure haven't said:
There are lots of legitimate shortcomings of this wonderful platform, this is not one of them.
I mass-text enough. And I have never expected their responses to show up in the mass text field. How on earth would that be engineered?
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Funny thing. The OP posted about this in another thread stating that Android doesn't support group messaging. Somehow it became a Windows Phone 7 issue.
In any case the mods removed that post for other reasons and disabled his account. I only saw the post in an email, because I get emails of all posts to the thread he posted in. When I actually went to the thread it was all cleaned up. Since this is the 2nd disabling in a short period of time, it may be permanent.
iPhone does implent group sms so that when iPhone users text each other using group SMS, it effectivey is like a chat room. Responses go to all recipients. All recipients receive the phone numbers of all recipients which allows reply to send responses to all recipients.
I am not sure if Windows Phone 7 group SMS does something similar to this when all phones are Windows Phone 7. To me this feature is primarly useful for event organizers, such as the captain of my softball team that sends things out to all of us, such as weather updates or asking if we know of anyone that can sub. Not as much for a big chat.
I don't have an active SIM for my LG Quantum, so I can't test it.
I have always thought of group texting as more of a way to send for example a merry xmas to all your friends (like 80 or so) in one clip. You don't want all your friends getting all 80 responses (that may kill someones text plan if they have limited)
Interesing that the iphone does that. you would think it wouldn't due to the above issue or to use a different transport.
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I have always thought of group texting as more of a way to send for example a merry xmas to all your friends (like 80 or so) in one clip. You don't want all your friends getting all 80 responses (that may kill someones text plan if they have limited)
Interesing that the iphone does that. you would think it wouldn't due to the above issue or to use a different transport.
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On the iPhone,
It doesn't send 80 messages to each recipient. It just includes all 80 phone numbers with the message.
But, if they reply, it will reply to all 80.
Somehow the replies from iPhones doing this only count as 1 message though.
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On the iPhone,
It doesn't send 80 messages to each recipient. It just includes all 80 phone numbers with the message.
But, if they reply, it will reply to all 80.
Somehow the replies from iPhones doing this only count as 1 message though.
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yeah i meant on the reply. hmm interesting ... maybe they included it in there plan... actually can you get limited messaging on an iphone plan? Maybe that is why?
ROCOAFZ said:
yeah i meant on the reply. hmm interesting ... maybe they included it in there plan... actually can you get limited messaging on an iphone plan? Maybe that is why?
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I think it is because group messing is actually MMS, not SMS.
This blog explains it well. http://shawnblanc.net/2010/12/iphone-group-messaging/
So, it uploads the message once.
Also, iPhone users have the free benefit of iMessage which gives unlimited messaging regardless of carrier between all iPhone OS 5 users. This also applies to iTouch and iPads.
So, on AT&T with my iPhone, I can message and iPhone on Verizon and Sprint for no charge. And to us it seems no different than SMS, except the background color is blue instead of green.
I turned group text off the minute I found out what it was I have a feeling most people don't know what they are actually doing when they use it. Whenever one goes out, I always end up with a bunch of unnecessary texts from people I don't even know.

[Q] MMS Not sending with WiFi on

Hi all, Just recently picked up the G3 after Trading in my HTC One M8. I'm having issues sending and receiving MMS while my wifi is on when using Evolve SMS. I know that Textra has a work around built in where it turns off Wifi To send the MMS over Data but I don't really care for the look of Textra. I'm not sure if maybe my settings are off with Evolve as when I had my M8 it would send and receive with no problem. Anyone else having issues with this or know of any other 3rd party MMS apps that have the work aroudn built in like Textra?
Thanks,
Believe it or not every phone is different. Download and test. What works for me hasn't worked for others
EggNogg421 said:
Hi all, Just recently picked up the G3 after Trading in my HTC One M8. I'm having issues sending and receiving MMS while my wifi is on when using Evolve SMS. I know that Textra has a work around built in where it turns off Wifi To send the MMS over Data but I don't really care for the look of Textra. I'm not sure if maybe my settings are off with Evolve as when I had my M8 it would send and receive with no problem. Anyone else having issues with this or know of any other 3rd party MMS apps that have the work aroudn built in like Textra?
Thanks,
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It depends on the app. I have issues with hello sms, but had them with the Nexus 5 too. Chomp SMS works more reliably, but I never know if I'm missing messages. I've resorted to using hangouts with the SO for images, and use texting for sms only.
Convincing other users to jump on yet another messaging app is always a hassle.
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It depends on the app. I have issues with hello sms, but had them with the Nexus 5 too. Chomp SMS works more reliably, but I never know if I'm missing messages. I've resorted to using hangouts with the SO for images, and use texting for sms only.
Convincing other users to jump on yet another messaging app is always a hassle.
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I went back to the stock messaging app because it was the only one that seemed to send and receive everything reliably while on wifi calling mode.
I mean, for one example, Google Hangouts doesn't even offer to resize pictures - and when you have a hard message size limit, that's a deal breaker. (The stock app indicates 1 MB is it.)

Not receiving some group text messages?

I am using a Dev Ed HTC m9 on ATT(unrooted). I am having this annoying issue where, seemingly randomly, I do not receive some text messages from some people in a group text. I would receive maybe 1 out of 5 messages sent by one person, and it switches between people so its not like it's one person's issue. One on one texts seem to work fine. One thing to note is that everyone in the group text has an iphone and probably uses imessage sometimes, but I'm not sure if that's the problem. I have had the same group chat with the same people while using my galaxy s3 on att with no issues like this, it only came up after I switched phones and sim cards(same number tho).
I made sure my APN settings were set to ATT and I have called att several times after upgrading from the galaxy s3 while keeping the same number on the m9, but it hasn't worked.
One thing that is interesting is that textra seems to receive all the messages (or atleast more than the stock messenger app, as far as I know), while google messenger, stock messenger, and hangouts sms all seem to show the same incomplete messages threads.

Phone doesnt always send txts right away

My phone doesnt always send txts right away, sometimes I will send 2 or 3 txts in a row and last one might send and other ones will say sending, I use verizon messaging app, restarting the phone or turning data on helps sometimes.
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My phone doesnt always send txts right away, sometimes I will send 2 or 3 txts in a row and last one might send and other ones will say sending, I use verizon messaging app, restarting the phone or turning data on helps sometimes.
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I don't have a fix for this but have the same issue and thought it was the app I used for texting, Contacts, excellent program now that I see it wasn't them causing the issue.It seems to have gotten somewhat better for me as they have updated there app every once in awhile.
I have recently tried using the Messaging+ from Verizon since they are supposed to work over WiFi... but I am finding that I am never getting notifications for some. I also have LG G Watch that isn't picking it up either. When I open Messaging+ there are several unread messages waiting for me.
I also dislike how it doesn't include the message in the notification, I just get "Joe Blow sent 1 new message".
I REALLY REALLY REALLY love the look and feel of "Hello SMS" for SMS but it works horrible for MMS. I can receive the MMS pictures but cannot send MMS pictures. When I do receive pictures, because I use a custom DPI, I only see a small corner of the image. I have to download, save, and open the picture up in Gallery. But because I usually chat with my GF using Hangouts and usually don't send pictures via texting, this typically is a non-issue for me. But the few times you need it, it is a pain.
If HelloSMS would get their act together with the MMS bugs, it would be very highly recommended. It is slim and pretty basic. But I love the style, notification dropdown shade, and simplisity.
There is another app that I like called Evolve. I could set it up similar to HelloSMS but for some reason I just didn't like it. It worked great.
Another one that I am looking at is HoverChat. It incorporates the Floating head bubbles similar to Facebook Messanger. Never tried it though.

Google Messenger and MMS Picture Quality/Compression

Hey everyone,
I got my Pixel XL on Verizon and I am loving everything about it so far. The only thing I have a problem with are the pictures I receive via Google Messenger being compressed so much, that they appear grainy. I was having the same problem on my Verizon Note 4 ever since it was updated to Marshmallow earlier this year. I was hoping this problem would have been solved with a new phone and new software. The pictures come through fine on other text messaging apps though. People also receive great quality photos from me through Google Messenger.
Is anyone having a similar problem with Google Messenger MMS - or does anyone have any idea how to solve this? I've done a lot of research over the few months, but haven't really found a fix.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Peter Venkman said:
Hey everyone,
I got my Pixel XL on Verizon and I am loving everything about it so far. The only thing I have a problem with are the pictures I receive via Google Messenger being compressed so much, that they appear grainy. I was having the same problem on my Verizon Note 4 ever since it was updated to Marshmallow earlier this year. I was hoping this problem would have been solved with a new phone and new software. The pictures come through fine on other text messaging apps though. People also receive great quality photos from me through Google Messenger.
Is anyone having a similar problem with Google Messenger MMS - or does anyone have any idea how to solve this? I've done a lot of research over the few months, but haven't really found a fix.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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When you receive multiple pictures at once it compresses them and they lose quality. If they send them individually it doesn't compress
I was just wondering about this issue myself. Videos coming in as MMS are incredibly compressed and low quality. Images are also the same.
This only happens for texts though and not Hangouts.
That stinks. I don't know if you have Verizon, but have you tried the Verizon Messages app if you do? If works well for me.
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When you receive multiple pictures at once it compresses them and they lose quality. If they send them individually it doesn't compress
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Unfortunately this isn't the case for me. Whether it's one photo or several, they are all compressed the same. Only happens with Google Messenger and Hangouts. Any other text messaging app works great. I just like Google and want to stick with them
Same problem here. Picture quality is crap no matter if it's only one picture. With textra is no problem. To bad, because I like Google messenger.
If you want to send pictures use Hangouts or WhatsApp. Other messengers like those should work also. The problem is with the carriers.
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This problem has been plaguing me for over a year, this is them most helpful information I have found. https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel...ottom-comments
From what I can tell, if Verizon doesn't recognize your phone (mine is on a custom rom) Verizon servers automatically compress incoming MMS to 30-40KB.
"Pixel is resizing the images much more than they should. Take a look at the google pixel product forum. There are many complaints about this.
Every other comment so far is wrong, it's not just due to MMS. Yes MMS compresses/resizes the images to get a smaller file size, but no carrier restricts the image size down to the 30-40KB that Pixel is receiving.
From what I can tell the phone isn't in the carriers MMS phone info database yet, so it doesn't know the phone's capabilities so it defaults to a really old, flip phone user agent that restricts incoming MMS images to 30-40KB.
I have seen other reports of brand new phones having the exact same issue.
So hopefully it's just a matter of time before the carriers fix this.
Edit: I almost forgot, to prove this is an MMS issue and not 'just the way MMS works', download Textra or Chomp and under MMS settings choose Legacy instead of System. I'm not sure what it does, but it forces some other MMS settings to be used and will allow you to receive much higher quality photos."
I finally got it to work better by using Textra and setting it to "legacy" MMS.
I know this is an older thread, but the issue is still present even now.
It is NOT a carrier issue. Samsung default SMS client is fine, the Google Messages compresses photos to the point of pixellation.
It is a Google Messages issue. If it was carrier then all SMS apps would do it.
I only use Google Message because of Android wear. Might just have to ditch it until its fixed.
(Using Galaxy Note8)

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