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Almost all custom Roms are not even updated since last year. The custom Rom or Android development for Honor 8 Pro is totally off? Why is that?
Even after oreo release, feels like no one interested.
update: Honor released kernel source for honor 8 pro
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro-honor-9-android-oreo-kernel-source/
personally, i feel that this is due to the fact that:
* many are happy for stock ROM
* stock ROM has got a lot of features and options for all sorts of ppl
* in terms of optmisation and efficiency, modern day version of Android don't really drain that much.
* battery tech has improved and we see phones packing bigger battery. so, ppl no longer than concerned abt battery life
* limited user-base -- so ROM developers are better off spending their time on phones with larger user-base, thus getting better feedback and attention
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personally, i feel that this is due to the fact that:
* many are happy for stock ROM
* stock ROM has got a lot of features and options for all sorts of ppl
* in terms of optmisation and efficiency, modern day version of Android don't really drain that much.
* battery tech has improved and we see phones packing bigger battery. so, ppl no longer than concerned abt battery life
* limited user-base -- so ROM developers are better off spending their time on phones with larger user-base, thus getting better feedback and attention
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You are right, Thanks.
Just After honor ditch us, no chance of Getting future android experience ?
Honor left honor 8 pro.
Honor is fully focused on AI based honor view 10, the selected developer were given free honor view 10 handsets for its support and development of rom's in future. Honor has ditched the honor 8 pro.
The developers started working on honor view 10 and developed treble lineage os 15.1 rom based on Oreo 8.1 for kirin 970 devices.
Even the magisk and substrantum support is given for honor view 10.
I think this is my last honor device ??.
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Honor is fully focused on AI based honor view 10, the selected developer were given free honor view 10 handsets for its support and development of rom's in future. Honor has ditched the honor 8 pro.
The developers started working on honor view 10 and developed treble lineage os 15.1 rom based on Oreo 8.1 for kirin 970 devices.
Even the magisk and substrantum support is given for honor view 10.
I think this is my last honor device .
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personally, i dun expect much since honor 8 Pro is a one year old device (using China's V9 as the actual launch). honor already launched a replacement device and if they actually continue to promote older device, then there's something not right with their strategy. so, it's only right that they get support for newer device instead, which is the View 10.
and the Q is... do i need custom rom? nope. i dun think i need it. and do i think it's needed for even View 10? nope... dun think it's needed.
many reasons why i dun think custom rom needed is in my first reply above.
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personally, i dun expect much since honor 8 Pro is a one year old device (using China's V9 as the actual launch). honor already launched a replacement device and if they actually continue to promote older device, then there's something not right with their strategy. so, it's only right that they get support for newer device instead, which is the View 10.
and the Q is... do i need custom rom? nope. i dun think i need it. and do i think it's needed for even View 10? nope... dun think it's needed.
many reasons why i dun think custom rom needed is in my first reply above.
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I heard yesterday, Honor had removed Kernal sources for Honor 8 pro(or V9)[after its launched] that's a big problem also for custom roms.
Even in their own website the stock firmware is not available, no even it's name.
Stock rom might ne good, but Many people seeks for Future taste of Android. Honor already ditch us, The only way we could have taste Android p or Android Q using custom roms and now that also not possible.
Where as they are making sure Honor view 10 get erd party development supports.
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I heard yesterday, Honor had removed Kernal sources for Honor 8 pro(or V9)[after its launched] that's a big problem also for custom roms.
Even in their own website the stock firmware is not available, no even it's name.
Stock rom might ne good, but Many people seeks for Future taste of Android. Honor already ditch us, The only way we could have taste Android p or Android Q using custom roms and now that also not possible.
Where as they are making sure Honor view 10 get erd party development supports.
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i bought the honor 8 Pro because it is a good phone. great specs at affordable price. i din get it so i could get the latest version of Android. to me, so long as it works and it's patched (and while it's inconsistent but the updates have been coming from Honor), i'm fine with it.
and based on the above, honor 8 Pro is still a good phone. i don't really care about the latest Android version. what is more important is that i'm using the smartphone for what it can do -- connecting me. and it's doing a great job at that.
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i bought the honor 8 Pro because it is a good phone. great specs at affordable price. i din get it so i could get the latest version of Android. to me, so long as it works and it's patched (and while it's inconsistent but the updates have been coming from Honor), i'm fine with it.
and based on the above, honor 8 Pro is still a good phone. i don't really care about the latest Android version. what is more important is that i'm using the smartphone for what it can do -- connecting me. and it's doing a great job at that.
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U r right, It will still be a very good phone with good specs nod doubt.
Everyone has their own view.
Some people's like custom development.
And Huawei doing open source for view 10 and removing 8pro(v9)'s kernal sources is really disappointing.
When honor8pro was launched, Huawei/Honor out up a show like this is device is going to get all the required attention and care. Instead they struggled with patches itself. Not even updates, fhey couldn't make working patches.
They looked for market and found one. That's it. US market is unreachable at least for an year or two, so a new strategy is to push as many devices as they can in current markets while lobbying for US market.
Honor tried or picturized a Xiaomi like strategy but went Samsung ish. Hardware wise 8pro is matchless in its tier but then there isn't much you can boast about it on realtime usage. They nerfed battery when some issues started its that bad.
It's a compromise device that has been further compromised. I feel honor is a sinking ship. They're severely dependent on marketing than letting phones prove themselves. They have paid Android authority and even Xda well to keep featuring posts or reviews about their phones. So that neo nerds or spec hungry guys can devour these devices and guys like these are usually the ones that are looked up or called up by less nerdy or less tech literates for their next best phone.
Such fake image doesn't hold long and easily shatters. Just like one plus which promised big things and promised support and longevity unlike google... and then just ditched all that, Honor too promised devices with better specs and better support but well... at this rate honor 10view will bite the dust soon as well, or if things keep going bad for honor/Huawei they might loop back.
Only time will tell. But for now it sure is bleak for Honor8pro. There isn't a way to jump to custom roms either. So when **** hits the cieling this phone will be a glorified remote control.
In Nutshell, most of us in india got this device with buyback from flipkart, 1st week march that awaited period start. Time to switch back to some soft-support team with decent hardware, ASAP. My bid is back to moto. whats others planning ?
Regards,
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In Nutshell, most of us in india got this device with buyback from flipkart, 1st week march that awaited period start. Time to switch back to some soft-support team with decent hardware, ASAP. My bid is back to moto. whats others planning ?
Regards,
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I didn't took buyback guarantee ?:crying:
Honor 8 pro is the most neglected so called "Flagship killer" of 2017/18.
Shortly after the release of 8 pro, they had taken down all official firmware sources.
View 10 is view 10 all over the globe. 8 pro is just a 128 GB variant of V9. So it has been completely neglected.
When Honor was questioned as to why firmware sources were removed, they gave a dumb reply saying it was HQ decision and they have least control over it.
This is like being in Apple ecosystem. Very sad to see such a potential device being neglected completely.
Honor has suddenly started focusing on lower budget segment in India after 8 pro's launch. Devices like 9 lite are starting to see updates for Face Unlock and yester year Flagship 8 pro is still with buggy Oreo update which they cannot fix.
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Honor 8 pro is the most neglected so called "Flagship killer" of 2017/18.
Shortly after the release of 8 pro, they had taken down all official firmware sources.
View 10 is view 10 all over the globe. 8 pro is just a 128 GB variant of V9. So it has been completely neglected.
When Honor was questioned as to why firmware sources were removed, they gave a dumb reply saying it was HQ decision and they have least control over it.
This is like being in Apple ecosystem. Very sad to see such a potential device being neglected completely.
Honor has suddenly started focusing on lower budget segment in India after 8 pro's launch. Devices like 9 lite are starting to see updates for Face Unlock and yester year Flagship 8 pro is still with buggy Oreo update which they cannot fix.
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Honor is a dumb ass!! ?
Go to honor view 10 thread and flash RR OS. Works flawlessly on honor 8 pro. Just some glitches here and there. What custom ROM support do you guys want more?
kumar akarsh said:
Go to honor view 10 thread and flash RR OS. Works flawlessly on honor 8 pro. Just some glitches here and there. What custom ROM support do you guys want more?
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How is it working?
Is it because of project treble support?,
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How is it working?
Is it because of project treble support?,
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its working quite good for me. yes it is because of treble.
kumar akarsh said:
its working quite good for me. yes it is because of treble.
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Then maybe With a bit of modification developers can port those rom to H8p.
Just No one will be interested:crying:
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Then maybe With a bit of modification developers can port those rom to H8p.
Just No one will be interested:crying:
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lol. why port an already working ROM. it works like a charm with only few issues:
1. some animations are choppy(doesn't concern me much)
2. no volte(i don't need it)
3. no stock camera(will be added soon)
4. minor graphical glitches. (doesn't affect the overall interface)
kumar akarsh said:
lol. why port an already working ROM. it works like a charm with only few issues:
1. some animations are choppy(doesn't concern me much)
2. no volte(i don't need it)
3. no stock camera(will be added soon)
4. minor graphical glitches. (doesn't affect the overall interface)
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VOLTE is a big concern for me. Atleast in India.
Ok, lets not call it port----, fixing those glitches.
And jst turn of animation scale?, no problem of transitions.
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VOLTE is a big concern for me. Atleast in India.
Ok, lets not call it port----, fixing those glitches.
And jst turn of animation scale, no problem of transitions.
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next aosp build by oldDroid will be much stable. but volte will take some time. we now have same rates on all operators. switch to some other.
Hi guys
I'll try to make this short. I lost my Redmi Note 5 Pro (which I loved) and now I need a new phone. I stumbled upon the Honor 7x while searching for an alternative. You should know that I never bought a Huawei phone, I only used high end devices from Samsung, OP, LG and recently been using Xiaomi phones. I had a very bad experience with the Redmi Note 4 with its MTK SoC, since I LOVE flashing custom ROMs and doing all sort of new stuff with my device (rooting, xposed, theming..etc).
How is development doing for this device? Will I be able to easily unlock my bootloader, install TWRP and flash custom ROMs?
Also, how is battery life? and does the Kirin SoCs overheat and thermal throttle like MTK while gaming?
How is the overall smoothness of this phone (on official ROM)? No lags or some lags?
I'd really appreciate it if someone of you could provide some useful inputs based on your experience with this phone.
Thanks!
If you're type of person who loves to flash mods like Gcam,ViperForAndroid.prefer having tons of ROMs, smooth Gaming Experience Then a big No. Considering Honor 7x on Oreo is treble enabled you can surely flash gsi and Openkirin gsi yet none of them having VOLTE. Development on Kirin Soc is just bare bones. Speaking of EMUI is pretty good if you prefer Customs Skins over stock android. Speaking of battery gives Average 6-7 SOT.
Suggestion: if you're in hurry then get zenfone max pro else wait for Mi max 3, Nokia X6 , Mi A2 they are launching soon in indian markets.
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If you're type of person who loves to flash mods like Gcam,ViperForAndroid.prefer having tons of ROMs, smooth Gaming Experience Then a big No. Considering Honor 7x on Oreo is treble enabled you can surely flash gsi and Openkirin gsi yet none of them having VOLTE. Development on Kirin Soc is just bare bones. Speaking of EMUI is pretty good if you prefer Customs Skins over stock android. Speaking of battery gives Average 6-7 SOT.
Suggestion: if you're in hurry then get zenfone max pro else wait for Mi max 3, Nokia X6 , Mi A2 they are launching soon in indian markets.
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Omg I love the Asus zenfone max pro! It seems such a great device for the price of less than 200$. But I can't seem to find it anywhere aside from flipkart or ebay (overpriced). I'm not an indian so I can't order it from flipkart. Do you know if it will be sold in the future on aliexpress or another international website?
OnePlus is the way to go. Get the 5T or the 6, both are very fine devices. Heck, even the OP3 (and 3T) are still good today.
If you like to tweak devices then this is for you. This phones hardware potential is ridiculous. The silicone is just a great piece of engineering and you can install some ROMS. Developers will make more because they know how good the hardware, not to mention the great price tag.
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If you like to tweak devices then this is for you. This phones hardware potential is ridiculous. The silicone is just a great piece of engineering and you can install some ROMS. Developers will make more because they know how good the hardware, not to mention the great price tag.
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You mean sources for this device are now available for devs to create custom ROMs?
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You mean sources for this device are now available for devs to create custom ROMs?
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I'm not sure if sources are available, but Huawei is normally pretty good at releasing such things.
According to this URL: https://consumer.huawei.com/en/open...Type=openSourceSoftware&pageSize=10&curPage=1
If you search 'BND', you'll see "7X,BND,EMUI5.1,Android7.0"
What I meant originally was, the Honor 7X is an INCREDIBLE phone at an incredible price, lots of customization/tweaking options. I personally have lineage OS beta 4 installed.
To answer some of your questions:
How is development doing for this device? Will I be able to easily unlock my bootloader, install TWRP and flash custom ROMs?
Also, how is battery life? and does the Kirin SoCs overheat and thermal throttle like MTK while gaming?
How is the overall smoothness of this phone (on official ROM)? No lags or some lags?
I'd really appreciate it if someone of you could provide some useful inputs based on your experience with this phone.
Thanks!
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1. I'm not a developer so I don't know, there are only a handful of custom OS you can download ATM.
2. Huawei provides you with a bootloader code to easily unlock the bootloader.
3. The trick with TWRP is you need to beable to install a TWRP that does decryption. Reason being is the Honor 7x, I don't know if its the entire phone.. it probably is... but I know for a fact some parts are encrypted, and you can't make a TWRP backup unless your TWRP can handle decryption. I tried to install a TWRP with decryption thats suppose to work for our phone, but I got some kind of error (I didn't write it down, but the error basically meant that it didn't work). The TWRP with decryption thats available was made for another Huawei phone thats suppose to work for the 7x. One thing you could try, would be to decrypt the phone, and then see if you can make a TWRP backup. Theres a few ways to do that: 1. TWRP>Format Data. 2. fastboot erase userdata 3. Theres probably a GUI way to do it in Settings>Security&Privacy>Encryption&Credentials>Encrypt Phone.
4. Battery life, Its way better than the Honor 5x. I haven't had my phone for very long, so I can't tell you the real world battery results. My battery menu says I have 7 days left of battery if that tells you anything. My Honor 5x got 4 days max, and this phone I know beats it... so my estimate is 5 days of battery for my usage. I'm pretty sure that Oreo has made improvements as far as battery. I looked at catlog in realtime, there wasn't hardly any activity going on unless you did something. On my Honor 5x there was always activity going on regardless.
5. I haven't played any games yet, So I don't know about SOC temps while under load. I've read on other posts that Kirin SOCS temps are good. Right now mines sitting at 29 celcius, which is excellent!
6. On official ROM, I only played with it for a short while, it seemed smooth. Now its not as smooth as iPhone, but I felt like it was just about as smooth as an android is gonna get.
the question is in the title ^^, for precision, i would say that, since i have a phone, i use custom roms, the last i had was the samsung galaxy s5, the thing is that, custom roms have recurrent bugs on this device, we had to wait a long time to get a "stable" oreo rom on it, for example, camera and fingerprint were not working for a moment..
so i want to know if roms are stable and smooth on this phone, thanks
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the question is in the title ^^, for precision, i would say that, since i have a phone, i use custom roms, the last i had was the samsung galaxy s5, the thing is that, custom roms have recurrent bugs on this device, we had to wait a long time to get a "stable" oreo rom on it, for example, camera and fingerprint were not working for a moment..
so i want to know if roms are stable and smooth on this phone, thanks
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If you want custom roms etc just buy a OnePlus or Xiaomi device they're very popular among developers
oneplus are too expansive for me, but yea i heard that roms are perfect on this, and wich one xiaomi should i go with ? i know that xiomis are chinese phones, but do they work well on french bandwidths ?
i see that there's a **** ton of roms on the redmi note 4 "mido", the price is really low
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oneplus are too expansive for me, but yea i heard that roms are perfect on this, and wich one xiaomi should i go with ? i know that xiomis are chinese phones, but do they work well on french bandwidths ?
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Reason I don't recommend you to jump on the Pixel is not much development is going on, The Device will be EOL on P so Major updates will stop some of the newer budget devices will still have that 2 years OS support and much more custom roms that you're after I think it'll be a better buy, Pixel XL isn't a bad buy by any means just I think better value for your situation is to be had on other devices
Which bands do you need? If you buy from official Xiaomi French store should have your bands but check before buying anything
https://buy.mi.com/fr/buy/product/redmi-note-5
https://www.mi.com/fr/mi-a2/
Mi A2 was just announced will come soon is running Android One, updates should be inline with Pixel Line will have a ton of developement just like the Mi A1 you can see here
Redmi Note 5 also great device a lot of development can see here
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Reason I don't recommend you to jump on the Pixel is not much development is going on, The Device will be EOL on P so Major updates will stop some of the newer budget devices will still have that 2 years OS support and much more custom roms that you're after I think it'll be a better buy, Pixel XL isn't a bad buy by any means just I think better value for your situation is to be had on other devices
Which bands do you need? If you buy from official Xiaomi French store should have your bands but check before buying anything
https://buy.mi.com/fr/buy/product/redmi-note-5
https://www.mi.com/fr/mi-a2/
Mi A2 was just announced will come soon is running Android One, updates should be inline with Pixel Line will have a ton of developement just like the Mi A1 you can see here
Redmi Note 5 also great device a lot of development can see here
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the redmi note 5 pro seems great what's the meaning of the "pro" ? on the market link you sent me, im able to buy the simple "redmi note 5"
SalsifiPourri said:
the redmi note 5 pro seems great what's the meaning of the "pro" ? on the market link you sent me, im able to buy the simple "redmi note 5"
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The pro is just named that way in other markets I think in india is called the "Redmi Note 5 Pro" But in Europe it's called "Redmi Note 5" Same device just different name
Xiaomi is a bit confusing with it's branding
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The pro is just named that way in other markets I think in india is called the "Redmi Note 5 Pro" But in Europe it's called "Redmi Note 5" Same device just different name
Xiaomi is a bit confusing with it's branding
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does the redmi note 5 stand to "whyred" ? will it be the exact same modelname if i take 32go or 64go ?
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does the redmi note 5 stand to "whyred" ? will it be the exact same modelname if i take 32go or 64go ?
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Yes the model name is the same regardless of RAM or Storage config you take
I am looking to buy a used Marlin as well. The price is much lower then the two phones suggested here. Does anyone have any comments or recommendations? My budget is around $200 USD.
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I am looking to buy a used Marlin as well. The price is much lower then the two phones suggested here. Does anyone have any comments or recommendations? My budget is around $200 USD.
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If it has to be a Marlin make sure you buy a non Verizon model as they block bootloader unlock can be a pita to get it unlocked
last I saw you had to pay like $30 to some shady guy to remotely unlock through team viewer...
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If it has to be a Marlin make sure you buy a non Verizon model as they block bootloader unlock can be a pita to get it unlocked
last I saw you had to pay like $30 to some shady guy to remotely unlock through team viewer...
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You can unlock the 1st Generation Pixel/Pixel XL for Free:
[How-to] Unlock bootloader on Verizon Pixel/XL by burduli
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You can unlock the 1st Generation Pixel/Pixel XL for Free:
[How-to] Unlock bootloader on Verizon Pixel/XL by burduli
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Thanks for info
Hello dear XDA Experts
Which Xiaomi phone shall I buy (in Europe) that will be the most popular Xiaomi device for a long time (people will talk about it and buy it for a long time), have the longest support and have many and many custom roms made even after pulling it off the market and most of all custom rom Devs will love it?
Any answer is welcome to help!
BTW Do these devices met the above criteria? (Redmi Note 5 (Pro or non Pro, remember Europe), Pocophone F1, Redmi Note 6 (if it is available in Europe))
Go for Redmi Note 5 AI
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Go for Redmi Note 5 AI
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Thanks for replying. Which model do You mean by adding "AI"? Is it's codname "whyred"?
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Thanks for replying. Which model do You mean by adding "AI"? Is it's codname "whyred"?
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Correct.
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Correct.
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Thanks again.
How about POCO or M2 Lite ( which has the same specs as whyred)?
PLEASE tell me what YOU think of these two phones?
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Thanks again.
How about POCO or M2 Lite ( which has the same specs as whyred)?
PLEASE tell me what YOU think of these two phones?
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POCO SD845
Note 5 AI (whyred) SD636
MI A2 Lite SD625
The best phone is POCO by far because of the processor, but im not sure about the rom development and stuff. Whyred has alot of custom and miui based roms to play with.
If you prefer pure stock android MI A2 or lite is the phone for you.
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POCO SD845
Note 5 AI (whyred) SD636
MI A2 Lite SD625
The best phone is POCO by far because of the processor, but im not sure about the rom development and stuff. Whyred has alot of custom and miui based roms to play with.
If you prefer pure stock android MI A2 or lite is the phone for you.
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I love MIUI but If any kind of Xiaomi phone with pure Android would have best dev support, best roms, much mor roms than I want to get that phone.
I forgot to mention that I hunt for from low to mid budget phones. POCO can be bought by me i it turns out that he wins my criterua,
I bought Redmi Note 5 Pro due to the FLASHING brochure showing 6gb ram on 275USD ! however after i bought i found following problems and I am actually 70% regreting my purchase!
1. MIUI has keyboard switch key coming in notification panel so every time if i have to switch Gboard to Swiftkey i must pull down notification panel and make the switch (where all other phones in market has that keyboard switch key on navbar (far right)
2. OVERALL very low speaker and call quality! , even after mending mixerpath file! i could not enjoy the music! it becamse only 25% louder , no matter what values I play with ..
3. the CAMERA, the secondary dual camera is more of a cosmetic effect! i didnt find any options in camera app to take 3d fotos or optical zoom etc
furthermore
4. due to my daily aggresive social media usage and typing! i had try custom roms! ( xiaomi shipping unlocked phones to middle east) so i simple flashed various custom roms ( PE, RR6.2, crdroid, lineage, Omni, ArrowOs) and in all the ROMS, whatsapp acts funny when calling or hearing audio notes! and overall volume still low! , only in ArrowOS i could find my self accepting the volume quality (android p ) , but whatsapp keep making android P reboot...
now the GENERAL TRICKY PART which btw made me think i would never buy Xiomi phone again! even Pocophone on $300 or even if it drops to $100 !
A, if your device get BRICKED in flashing custom roms, there is NO WAY to connect it in EDL mode for you to FLASH THE ORIGINAL ROM VIA miFLASHER
B, you must remove back panel! remove battery wire and short two points to make RN5p goto EDL mode! and
C, on top of that YOU MUST HAVE AUTHORIZED MI ACCOUNT TO FLASH otherwise it will fail....
D, if you wana save your bricked RN5P, take it to service center even for flashing and spend money! and for me, Dubai is the only place service centre of MI , so i have to send my device to UAE in order to get flashed!
so that made me think that xiaomi in 2018 is ONE TIME BUY and THROW device
the question is not WHICH MI phone should u be buying?
the bigger question is , are you aware of the complications comes with all 2018 xiaomi phones ?
YasuHamed said:
I bought Redmi Note 5 Pro due to the FLASHING brochure showing 6gb ram on 275USD ! however after i bought i found following problems and I am actually 70% regreting my purchase!
1. MIUI has keyboard switch key coming in notification panel so every time if i have to switch Gboard to Swiftkey i must pull down notification panel and make the switch (where all other phones in market has that keyboard switch key on navbar (far right)
2. OVERALL very low speaker and call quality! , even after mending mixerpath file! i could not enjoy the music! it becamse only 25% louder , no matter what values I play with ..
3. the CAMERA, the secondary dual camera is more of a cosmetic effect! i didnt find any options in camera app to take 3d fotos or optical zoom etc
furthermore
4. due to my daily aggresive social media usage and typing! i had try custom roms! ( xiaomi shipping unlocked phones to middle east) so i simple flashed various custom roms ( PE, RR6.2, crdroid, lineage, Omni, ArrowOs) and in all the ROMS, whatsapp acts funny when calling or hearing audio notes! and overall volume still low! , only in ArrowOS i could find my self accepting the volume quality (android p ) , but whatsapp keep making android P reboot...
now the GENERAL TRICKY PART which btw made me think i would never buy Xiomi phone again! even Pocophone on $300 or even if it drops to $100 !
A, if your device get BRICKED in flashing custom roms, there is NO WAY to connect it in EDL mode for you to FLASH THE ORIGINAL ROM VIA miFLASHER
B, you must remove back panel! remove battery wire and short two points to make RN5p goto EDL mode! and
C, on top of that YOU MUST HAVE AUTHORIZED MI ACCOUNT TO FLASH otherwise it will fail....
D, if you wana save your bricked RN5P, take it to service center even for flashing and spend money! and for me, Dubai is the only place service centre of MI , so i have to send my device to UAE in order to get flashed!
so that made me think that xiaomi in 2018 is ONE TIME BUY and THROW device
the question is not WHICH MI phone should u be buying?
the bigger question is , are you aware of the complications comes with all 2018 xiaomi phones ?
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1. Keyboard: many others are the same
2. No call problem so far
3. No 3D, optical zoom for cheap phone
4. You will get bricked only when you go from ARB4 to ARB3 Rom. Of course I also don't like this Xiaomi policy
The end: show me a better choice, quite good phone with very good battery life
Zanr Zij said:
1. Keyboard: many others are the same
2. No call problem so far
3. No 3D, optical zoom for cheap phone
4. You will get bricked only when you go from ARB4 to ARB3 Rom. Of course I also don't like this Xiaomi policy
The end: show me a better choice, quite good phone with very good battery life
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1. keyboard: i tried 8 custom roms and everyone has AOSP navbar handler
2. whatsapp: i was talking about custom roms. i have used whatsapp on Sony on Omnirom. it never gives bugs but whatsapp on Omnirom on RN5p acts funny
3. Camera: as i said the secondary camera is more of an cosmetic affect
4. my REDMI3s got bricked when i was simply flashing MIUI7.5 via twrp. TWRP hung and the device never booted! so there is strong chance that twrp may fail to flash properly! . Irrespective of whatever made your device bricked (anti rollback policy or bad flash) the point is, I dont have control in my hands
since the OP hasn't asked anything about battery life and mainly he wanted to have device within xaiomi having many custom roms experiment with SO my answer was based on his question---however since you've asked a decent device with good battery life then for you NOKIA 8 would be the best in budgeted midrange devices! ! its almost same price range! SN845/4000mah battery/ dual cameras/ 64/4 with usb-c and LOUD speaker! Frankly i would have bought Nokia8 but the company don't officially allow unlocking BL so there arent much roms available!
YasuHamed said:
1. keyboard: i tried 8 custom roms and everyone has AOSP navbar handler
2. whatsapp: i was talking about custom roms. i have used whatsapp on Sony on Omnirom. it never gives bugs but whatsapp on Omnirom on RN5p acts funny
3. Camera: as i said the secondary camera is more of an cosmetic affect
4. my REDMI3s got bricked when i was simply flashing MIUI7.5 via twrp. TWRP hung and the device never booted! so there is strong chance that twrp may fail to flash properly! . Irrespective of whatever made your device bricked (anti rollback policy or bad flash) the point is, I dont have control in my hands
since the OP hasn't asked anything about battery life and mainly he wanted to have device within xaiomi having many custom roms experiment with SO my answer was based on his question---however since you've asked a decent device with good battery life then for you NOKIA 8 would be the best in budgeted midrange devices! ! its almost same price range! SN845/4000mah battery/ dual cameras/ 64/4 with usb-c and LOUD speaker! Frankly i would have bought Nokia8 but the company don't officially allow unlocking BL so there arent much roms available!
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1. Keyboard: if you like to switch keyboard, just choose what you like: 1 more action with Miui or AOSP/PE Rom which many available for you.
2. The way you use keyboard and whatsapp not the OP question so don't need to talk too much about it. Just your style.
3. Cam: you have option: change Miui Cam setting or using GCam which give you much better quality
4. No ARB for RedMi3s and most other Xiaomi phones so no disaster here. Any other phones can be bricked.
You wrong about dummy, stupid design, super thick bezels Nokia 8 for current phones gen. It also not S845 phone, small screen and failed product
Zanr Zij said:
1. Keyboard: if you like to switch keyboard, just choose what you like: 1 more action with Miui or AOSP/PE Rom which many available for you.
2. The way you use keyboard and whatsapp not the OP question so don't need to talk too much about it. Just your style.
3. Cam: you have option: change Miui Cam setting or using GCam which give you much better quality
4. No ARB for RedMi3s and most other Xiaomi phones so no disaster here. Any other phones can be bricked.
You wrong about dummy, stupid design, super thick bezels Nokia 8 for current phones gen. It also not S845 phone, small screen and failed product
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1. to give him fair picture I honestly thought its worth mentioning since i haven't found any other modern days rom having switch keyboard panel NOT part of navbar accept in MIUI
2. its covered in 1 only.
3. gcam on miui doesn't work fully only sept2016 version ran (and didnt crash)
4 again, if by any chance the phone is bricked, i cannot press both volume and power keys to enter in EDL mode (like in Redmi3s)
you asked for good phone with nice battery , so i mentioned Nokia 8, and yes sorry about sd845, its sd835 with 6gbram and 5.3"screen with hardkeys, so u are getting full 5.3" to work with. THe bezels aren't that much they way you have metioned
by the way @androidbadboy Redmi Note5Pro on 9.6.5 doesnt have 3d touch enabled by default and you have to find a workaround!
by the way @androidbadboy Redmi Note5Pro on 9.6.5 doesnt have 3d touch enabled by default and you have to find a workaround!
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Thank You @YasuHamed for replying and giving us important information!
Forgive me as I got confused with all these stuff that is new to me can You please explain like to a total noob what I will miss or gain by not having 3D Touch (what's that in Xiaomi BTW?) enabled by default.
How to find a workaround? Find ON/OFF function?
Please help!
androidbadboy said:
Thank You @YasuHamed for replying and giving us important information!
Forgive me as I got confused with all these stuff that is new to me can You please explain like to a total noob what I will miss or gain by not having 3D Touch (what's that in Xiaomi BTW?) enabled by default.
How to find a workaround? Find ON/OFF function?
Please help!
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sir, 3d touch is, on home screen when you touch (lets say facebook) app icon and keep your finger on it for few mircoseconds , it opens submenu to various famous action (new post/video/app info / etc ). its a convenient if you want to change app properties (clear data/ fix notifications/ or uninstall ) all under on finger click. other wise to achieve all such you will have to goto traditional way under settings.
3d touch gives most used action by stats of that perticular app in submenu
workaround
the only workaround is to install another launcher , funny thing is, Xiaomi's launcher found on Googleplay has 3d touch! , Pocophone f1 launcher also has it.
YasuHamed said:
sir, 3d touch is, on home screen when you touch (lets say facebook) app icon and keep your finger on it for few mircoseconds , it opens submenu to various famous action (new post/video/app info / etc ). its a convenient if you want to change app properties (clear data/ fix notifications/ or uninstall ) all under on finger click. other wise to achieve all such you will have to goto traditional way under settings.
3d touch gives most used action by stats of that perticular app in submenu
workaround
the only workaround is to install another launcher , funny thing is, Xiaomi's launcher found on Googleplay has 3d touch! , Pocophone f1 launcher also has it.
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In Samsung S8 when I push my finger for a few seconds (with the same force BTW) I only get 2 options: remove icon or uninstall app.
Is this a properly working 3D touch?
If you had the budget I suggest you to buy Poco since the phone is a hype and many people are buying it now. I believe Poco community will be live as long as Redmi 3/3 pro, 3s/3x, note 3 forum because of that hype (it is on xda since late 2015 and still alive now). I remember back then people got hype over the phone and we knew some people still looking for it even after redmi 4a/4x.
Oh a piece of cake, for aesthetic reason you might be falling in love with MI 8 lite, it is so beautiful.
androidbadboy said:
In Samsung S8 when I push my finger for a few seconds (with the same force BTW) I only get 2 options: remove icon or uninstall app.
Is this a properly working 3D touch?
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yes , on sony/pixel etc you get many options
but on xiaomi redmi note 5 / pro there is no such thing (atleast till miui9.6.x) ( miui 10, i havent checked yet)
fadgry said:
If you had the budget I suggest you to buy Poco since the phone is a hype and many people are buying it now. I believe Poco community will be live as long as Redmi 3/3 pro, 3s/3x, note 3 forum because of that hype (it is on xda since late 2015 and still alive now). I remember back then people got hype over the phone and we knew some people still looking for it even after redmi 4a/4x.
Oh a piece of cake, for aesthetic reason you might be falling in love with MI 8 lite, it is so beautiful.
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Thank You for all Your help.
I gotta say You kept me thinking.
Cause If You would just see how all electronics shops make huge deliveries and still can't supply well enough for the giant demand of RN5.
I asked around in my country (Europe) and all the people say since RN5 is such a sales hit than it will have an incredible amount of custom roms and support for 3 years minimum from the Devs. They don't thing POCO will beat it in roms cause it's mainly bought by gamers. Gamers however dont flash custom roms when they have a beast that will eat every game.
Maybe in Your country the situation is somewhat different but as You can see the mania of RN5 is running wild that's why I was reluctant to hear from You that POCO will win in my 1st topics requierments.
BTW My people are poor and the difference between POCO and RN5 is 150 USD and that is very huge cash for us.
I respect Your predictions and I thank You very very very much for them.
As You can see try to fill in my shoes and don't be surprised that I am reluctant about POCO beating RN5.
Therefor please comment this reply as widely as You can when You get some peace quiet time please.
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yes , on sony/pixel etc you get many options
but on xiaomi redmi note 5 / pro there is no such thing (atleast till miui9.6.x) ( miui 10, i havent checked yet)
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yes means that 3D touch in S8 gets me only 2 types of things (remove icon or uninstall)?
What happens if on Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / pro I touch and hold an icon just like in S8 I wrote before?
androidbadboy said:
Thank You for all Your help.
I gotta say You kept me thinking.
Cause If You would just see how all electronics shops make huge deliveries and still can't supply well enough for the giant demand of RN5.
I asked around in my country (Europe) and all the people say since RN5 is such a sales hit than it will have an incredible amount of custom roms and support for 3 years minimum from the Devs. They don't thing POCO will beat it in roms cause it's mainly bought by gamers. Gamers however dont flash custom roms when they have a beast that will eat every game.
Maybe in Your country the situation is somewhat different but as You can see the mania of RN5 is running wild that's why I was reluctant to hear from You that POCO will win in my 1st topics requierments.
BTW My people are poor and the difference between POCO and RN5 is 150 USD and that is very huge cash for us.
I respect Your predictions and I thank You very very very much for them.
As You can see try to fill in my shoes and don't be surprised that I am reluctant about POCO beating RN5.
Therefor please comment this reply as widely as You can when You get some peace quiet time please.
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I know it is a huge cash difference since I personally buy RN5 instead of Poco haha. But yeah people really looking for Poco here and they will pay another 150 USD for it.
What about RN5? After 2 weeks using it I don't face any problem. People said they got a or b or c problems, and I would confuse as I didn't get it. Since I'm a hard gamer too, it is crucial to look for performance and it is satisfying.
Both phone are good and has really active forums, it is your choice after all to buy the phone. Hope you get the best which suits your need.
Hi, i want to buy this phone for my father, is it still worth to buy this phone in 2021?
Does this phone have google or miui dialer, call recording is necessary for him?
It is still a great phone and really really value for the price. Especially during these Big Billion sales the prices have come down to bare minimum I would say. Plus yes, it does have miui dialer and messages hence call recording and even auto call recording are there.
But one thing to note is that Poco is not providing many updates to the phone and at present the miui 12 with android 11 on phone is stable with only minor bugs but I cannot be sure with the upcoming updates will it break or not. Hence I would strongly recommend a Realme or other brand since it's for your dad. He will be better of staying away from miui.
ShreyasTheRootMan said:
It is still a great phone and really really value for the price. Especially during these Big Billion sales the prices have come down to bare minimum I would say. Plus yes, it does have miui dialer and messages hence call recording and even auto call recording are there.
But one thing to note is that Poco is not providing many updates to the phone and at present the miui 12 with android 11 on phone is stable with only minor bugs but I cannot be sure with the upcoming updates will it break or not. Hence I would strongly recommend a Realme or other brand since it's for your dad. He will be better of staying away from miui.
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I am new to these forums. I was wondering if I buy this phone now, will it come with google dialer ?
(Just like, some laptop companies have announced that their old models will come with Windows 11 Pre Installed) ?
BreathtakinglyBeautiful said:
I am new to these forums. I was wondering if I buy this phone now, will it come with google dialer ?
(Just like, some laptop companies have announced that their old models will come with Windows 11 Pre Installed) ?
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It will have Miui dialer. Google dialer has not been added to poco m2 pro till date hence it won't be added.