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Hey guys
I am considering getting the G3 and theres about £50 difference between 32 and 16gb version, is the 3gb/32gb actually worth it? Seen some tests and the difference was hardly noticable...anybody has any experience with both versions and could compare?
Thanks!
I don't have the link handy but a review was done with both versions, and the benchmarks were nearly the same. With microsd support, I'd see no reason just for another 1gb of ram personally.
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Every android phone I've ever had from 256kb to 2gb has eventually needed more memory. More memory means you can run more, cache more and be future proof. If your only keeping the phone for a year, then 2gb will probably be fine, if keeping for 2 years then I would get the 3gb version
Not exactly sure what 50 euros is in usd but if it's any where from 50-100 it's well worth it imo, especially since you get a sdcard & ram upgrade.
2gb ram has been the flagship standard for a while now, my HTC one gets pretty close to full ram usage at some points. More ram guarantees smooth performance for heavy usage as well as future proof specs, and don't forget the g3 has that qhd resolution and once higher (than 1080p) resolution videos become more common you'll be glad you went with the extra ram.
well the 16gb version, not sure what batch is it and where is it imported from(assuming Korea) goes for 1950 PLN = 373.8150 GBP according to google while the 32gb version which is imported from Korea goes for 2250 PLN = 431.3250 GBP so yeah not a big difference but still.
The thing is that I dont really play games on a mobile, most of the time I would just use it for browsing, mail, facebook, gps/maps, apps and camera damn, decisions decisions...
cez10 said:
well the 16gb version, not sure what batch is it and where is it imported from(assuming Korea) goes for 1950 PLN = 373.8150 GBP according to google while the 32gb version which is imported from Korea goes for 2250 PLN = 431.3250 GBP so yeah not a big difference but still.
The thing is that I dont really play games on a mobile, most of the time I would just use it for browsing, mail, facebook, gps/maps, apps and camera damn, decisions decisions...
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Well i never had the choice... Only 16gb was available in UK. I would defo spend another 50 quid to get extra storage... You're planning to spend a lot of money already so extra 300pln is not that bad isn't?
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Personally I would just save the money and buy the 16gb and get a massive SD Card instead. I doubt there is any noticeable difference in performance unless you have a gizillion apps open at the same time. In fact I remember reading an article where an LG employee says the phone is optimised to run on 2GB RAM.
The only reason I can think of to get the 32GB version is if you do not plan on getting an SD Card, then the extra storage is definately worth it. And maybe resale value will be higher...
szqnl said:
Personally I would just save the money and buy the 16gb and get a massive SD Card instead. I doubt there is any noticeable difference in performance unless you have a gizillion apps open at the same time. In fact I remember reading an article where an LG employee says the phone is optimised to run on 2GB RAM.
The only reason I can think of to get the 32GB version is if you do not plan on getting an SD Card, then the extra storage is definately worth it. And maybe resale value will be higher...
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I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.
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I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.
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Unless you root...
But even so, internal storage is better than SD card for many reason (ease of use, speed)
I picked the 32GB from Germany, very happy I did so.
Get the one with 3gb ram, I can't believe they are still releasing phones with 2gb ram.
I have a Z1 and since I started using a custom launcher whenever I have some apps open and press the home button the homescreen redraws and it's not nearly as quick as before.
Also some apps don't stay cached when I reopen them.
The G3 with its massive resolution should eat even more ram.
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I've just read a review here http://pclab.pl/art58419-7.html where they've tested the 2gb version and said it lags a lot, the CPU and GPU gets hot a lot, that it would be better if there was full HD than QHD, that the screen dims weirdly and that the screen gets this weird sharpening effect....
christ I dont know what to do :/ z2 is nice but it has a lot of issues, one's camera isnt good enough these days, g3 3gb is probably most future proof but the more I read about it the more doubts I get...
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I think the extra on board storage is, now, very important as, in the up to date google builds, moving app data to sd is very restricted.
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True, guess it depends on what you use your phone for. I don't do any gaming so the app data space isn't that large.
If the difference in price is ok then it makes sense to get the 32GB I suppose. Here in Singapore, only the 32GB version is available and only S$755 sim-free which is relatively cheap for a new flagship phone.
I'm still deciding whether to get this or the G2 which is only S$520 now!
I'm planning to buy the 32gb version. What I like to know is if the custom roms will be different or will they all be suitable for this version?
G3 the 16 or 32 GB
cez10 said:
Hey guys
I am considering getting the G3 and theres about £50 difference between 32 and 16gb version, is the 3gb/32gb actually worth it? Seen some tests and the difference was hardly noticable...anybody has any experience with both versions and could compare?
Thanks!
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Hi,
I have got both phones at the moment (Model D855) and I would strongly suggest you spend the the extra few bucks on tthe 32GB phone. Not as much for the ROM but for the RAM. Today I have installed the same apps on both phobes after rooting them and installing TWRP recovery and the difference is very obvious especially when having several apps open in the background. Although many phones could do perefctly with the amount of RAM the 16 GB model offers, I think there is a difference in this phonbes screen specs. This fabulous screen asks a lot of capacity which I think is the reason the 16 GB version gets very leggy. It's better if you reboot every now and then but I recon you'd get very anoyed at having to do that 3 times a day.
The price difference is big enough to go for the 16 GB version. You'll most prbably regret in a few months.
I have the 2 GB version no problem
Screen is good no heating problems
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I have the 16g d855 my phone now runs at 300mb free ram i bought it for 380 euro and the 32gb was for 500+ so the difference was big. So if you have that money go for 32 a test on youtube on benchmarking both versions shows that 32gb is 5-7% faster and the results proofs that.
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how much does it concern you that the 5X may only have 2GB of RAM according to the latest leaks?
If it becomes official will that change your mind about buying this phone?
I would still buy it but having only 2gb of ram but only if the price is right. They can forget about charging $400 for it, the current rumored specs are almost identical performance wise to a nexus 5 and those can be had for $200 used.
peachpuff said:
I would still buy it but having only 2gb of ram but only if the price is right. They can forget about charging $400 for it, the current rumored specs are almost identical performance wise to a nexus 5 and those can be had for $200 used.
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is the 808 not still a good bit better then the 800?
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how much does it concern you that the 5X may only have 2GB of RAM according to the latest leaks?
If it becomes official will that change your mind about buying this phone?
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It's probably a deal breaker for me... A phone with 2 gb of ram is not future proof.. I would consider the 6p instead, but I hope it doesn't feel huge in the hand...
Otherwise my only hope is that the 2gb is for the lower 16 gb model only, and the 32 gb one has 3gb of ram....
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I was reading the op title as "2/3rds of a GB" lol. But seriously, I'm fine with either. I want the typical smooth fluid Nexus experience. However they achieve that, whether 2 or 3 GB of RAM, I'm good with it.
what if it's $349 for 16GB and $399 for a 32GB but both 2gb ram.
is it still worth it?
People don't even know how the phone runs yet and are already calling it garbage. Lol. Oh, you people.
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My usage today is usually shy of 1GB. 2GB is fine. I'm more concerned about battery life, quick charge and camera quality and speed.
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is the 808 not still a good bit better then the 800?
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A bit better yes, but not a whole lot better like the 810.
Well I know for a fact that 2gb is not enough for my usage. To be more specific, when I use something like my car Appradio, and need to run ARUnchained on Bluetooth, with Spotify and Maps, along with casting screen, the phone doesn't last more than 5 mins without either dropping the cast screen, or rebooting.
On the flip side, the OnePlus one, which has just 1gb more Ram holds a very stable screencast, so yea... To each their own, but I'm thinking they will do 16gb with 2gb Ram, or 32gb with 3gb Ram, the same as they did with the LG G3...
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The Moto X Pure looks like a better option at this point. Same cpu except larger battery and screen. And 3gb ram. Although larger screen may be a deal breaker
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I think if the phone turns out to have 2 gigs of RAM, I'd consider the Huawei variant.. I want that 3GB, it IS an upgrade.. Xposed is really ram hungry and I use dozens of modules.. Not to mention so many mods, custom rom w/ CM's theme engine and animation tweaks on my Nexus 5 2013, I normally have just about 235MBs of RAM remaining in average use which makes for a really laggy experience but I still live with it, judge me. So yeah, I want 3GBs of RAM.. I'm leaning towards the Nexus 6P because according to the rumors it does seem like a powerhouse compared to the LG one.. Just hope the development team is as engrossed in the 6P as it might be in the 5X .. I don't know why but something is keeping me from giving a 100% to Huawei.
I think we have nothing to worry about. There will be two versions of this phone. One will have 16gb and 2gb of ram and the other will have 32gb and 3gb of ram. The one that was outed on Amazon might be the overseas version with the lower specs. The
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All will be revealed on 9/29. It's all just inaccurate speculation until then. No need to get all bent out of shape yet.
My money is on 3GB being available, though.
i'm fine with 2 variants as long as I can get 3gb or more. if not, ill have to choose a different phone myself as well.
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I think we have nothing to worry about. There will be two versions of this phone. One will have 16gb and 2gb of ram and the other will have 32gb and 3gb of ram. The one that was outed on Amazon might be the overseas version with the lower specs. The
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And why should the overseas version has lower specs? Are you crazy?
Hi,
Do you guys think that the pressure sensitive screen on some of the mi5S versions is worth the extra money? Do you really use it?
I think the pressure display is a gimmick but maybe someday somebody will make a use for it with ROMs? I would still say that buying the 128gb version is worth it for the extra storage and 4gb ram. That's just my 2 cents
I would buy it because of the storage, don't forget that you can't extend it, there is no micro-sd slot.
3D pressure is a Mi feature and only apps that are developed with this feature built in (probably none in the play store) are compatible. In other words, chinese Mi apps = good, all other apps = useless
This is now at the moment, you never know what the future brings
I agree.
I have the 128GB version and i never use the 3D touch feature. If you don't need the extra storage and RAM then go for the 64GB version.
nope,when Chinese 11/11,XIAOMI released an MI5s with 4G RAM and 32G ROM,and I think that's more worthy
Chou Bruce said:
nope,when Chinese 11/11,XIAOMI released an MI5s with 4G RAM and 32G ROM,and I think that's more worthy
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32gb is a little low though... I think xiaomi are stupid for not making 4gb ram a standard in their phones.
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3D pressure is a Mi feature and only apps that are developed with this feature built in (probably none in the play store) are compatible. In other words, chinese Mi apps = good, all other apps = useless
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Well that depends on apps themselves if they can utilize pressure-sensitive touches... most of them don't, true. But OS itself (launcher in particular) may use it for like context menus related to apps. SImilar thing can be seen with Action Launcher where you swipe app icons and it opens its widget. Launcher supported gesture. The same can be implemented (and likely is) b the MIUI Launcher for pressure display. So i may still have some value, although I'm with you that you can utilize extra memory much better than this tech that you can easily get by.
Friborg said:
I agree.
I have the 128GB version and i never use the 3D touch feature. If you don't need the extra storage and RAM then go for the 64GB version.
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I am on the same boat as you, I have a Mi5s 4Gb+128GB, with the 3D touch screen, but I've never used it or bother to look into how to use it. I think a good combination would be 4GB+64GB, do you guys know if the 4GB+32Gb has external memory slot?
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I think so far none of the 5s models have an external memory slot. Maybe a new model will once be released, but currently there is none. Then again, the built in memory is extremely fast, much faster than any microsd can deliver, so I prefer the built in memory.
Friborg said:
I agree.
I have the 128GB version and i never use the 3D touch feature. If you don't need the extra storage and RAM then go for the 64GB version.
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I think so far none of the 5s models have an external memory slot. Maybe a new model will once be released, but currently there is none. Then again, the built in memory is extremely fast, much faster than any microsd can deliver, so I prefer the built in memory.
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Then 4/32GB combination is on the low side... I agree that internal memory is much faster and usually preffered, but more options = more flexibility.
If I want to open data and LTE I just tap the settings icon. Doesn't need to open settings >SIM cards and then make all the other moves. New messages and browser search only in one tap. So I think its most ergonomic and efficient in that case. If you don't need it, ok!
I have a Mate 10 with 6GB ram. I find it to be quite responsive. I had 12 aps in recents and still have about 3 GB ram free. So where would folks see improvement in performance on a Mate 20 X with 8 GB ramq. With gaming (which I don't do much of)? Does the camera's AI take up a lot of memory? Is more memory taken up by OS on Mate 20 X so there is less free space? Appreciate people's thought on this before I decide on which Mate 20 X to pick. Thanks!
My understanding is that, as good as it sounds, ram in current phone flagships far exceeds need.
There are some tests on Youtube and there is not really a difference.
The 8GB Oneplus 6T is even slower mostly and has a lower benchmark score in this video then the Mate 20 Pro 6GB (almost same specs like Mate 20 X)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm6Eq0pa0Xs
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My understanding is that, as good as it sounds, ram in current phone flagships far exceeds need.
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WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
There are some tests on Youtube and there is not really a difference.
The 8GB Oneplus 6T is even slower mostly and has a lower benchmark score in this video then the Mate 20 Pro 6GB (almost same specs like Mate 20 X)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm6Eq0pa0Xs
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Well, seems to make sense. I've seen the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 is available with 10GB ram! Comes in handy I guess....
Just checked my storage on my phone and with sdcard I'm using 160GB. So the other thing about getting tbe 8GB is it has 256GB storage so I could, in principle avoid buying Huawei's nanocard.
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Well, seems to make sense. I've seen the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 is available with 10GB ram! Comes in handy I guess....
Just checked my storage on my phone and with sdcard I'm using 160GB. So the other thing about getting tbe 8GB is it has 256GB storage so I could, in principle avoid buying Huawei's nanocard.
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Exactly given the current pricing of those cards. Makes sense to get more RAM and storage.
Pretty sure 6gb, 8gb, and 10gb are mostly gimmicks to sell the phone. As new android versions come out, things get more efficient not more bloated generally. Its too bad manufacturers didn't put the money into more storage.
The primary reason for the memory isnt for everyday use. The extra memory is for game play. On a everyday usage its not going to make any difference unless you keep every app open and dont close anything. But the primary reason for the 6GB or 8GB is primarily for games so there is less hiccups during play. Because as games get more sophisticated they use more memory.
how about the battery drain between 6gb/128gb and 8gb/256gb ? does it make any diffrence?
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how about the battery drain between 6gb/128gb and 8gb/256gb ? does it make any diffrence?
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Its based on usage, size doesnt matter on battery drainage.
The 6gb or 8gb of ram makes no difference.
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Its based on usage, size doesnt matter on battery drainage.
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ooo i see thanks.. :good:
because mine the battery drains rather fast compare with p20 pro
one more thing it is the same between 6gb and 8gb when turn off phone , connect the charger and then it will boot up by it self ? cannot charge in off state like p20 pro?
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ooo i see thanks.. :good:
because mine the battery drains rather fast compare with p20 pro
one more thing it is the same between 6gb and 8gb when turn off phone , connect the charger and then it will boot up by it self ? cannot charge in off state like p20 pro?
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You can, you have to turn the off back off, its the same thing as an iPhone, as soon as aniPhone has 5% battery it turns itself on, same thing, if you want it to remain off then you either have to plug it in while the phone is on and then turn it off, or if already off and you plug it in and it turns on, then you will have to turn it off. I know its annoying but thats how it is.
Just wanted to catch your opinion on the real benefits of buying the 16 GB variant as opposed to 12 GB model. Make abstraction of the storage capacity increase, just assume that you don't really need 512 GB as long as you have expandable storage (via microSD) to use if really needed.
I am thinking of arguments justifying the additional RAM increase, considering that 12 GB is already more than enough for multitasking., even for running 2-3 RAM-intensive games at the same time
Looking forward to your opinions! :good: Thank you!
More ram - better dex experience?
Better for "locking apps" in the ram (new feature I guess for s20 series).
Smoother gaming?
Better for recording 8k?
More ram for buffing video?
Buffing online radio?
20degrees said:
More ram - better dex experience?
Better for "locking apps" in the ram (new feature I guess for s20 series).
Smoother gaming?
Better for recording 8k?
More ram for buffing video?
Buffing online radio?
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Is the "locking apps" feature available for all S20 phones? Someone in the YouTube's had mentioned it was an ultra exclusive. Lots of times those guys are wrong though.
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Is the "locking apps" feature available for all S20 phones? Someone in the YouTube's had mentioned it was an ultra exclusive. Lots of times those guys are wrong though.
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Not sure. I'm getting the ultra so I couldn't care less. ?
20degrees said:
Not sure. I'm getting the ultra so I couldn't care less.
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So are you getting the 16 GB version?
katolink said:
So are you getting the 16 GB version?
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Oh yeah. I wish they offered a 1tb version. I'd be all over that.
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Oh yeah. I wish they offered a 1tb version. I'd be all over that.
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Ok, but assuming that you don't run 2 games at a time, or use dex at the same time with 8K recording, or buffing online radio.... is the incremental 4 GB really worth buying? I mean obviously this depends on real world usage, but still...
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Ok, but assuming that you don't run 2 games at a time, or use dex at the same time with 8K recording, or buffing online radio.... is the incremental 4 GB really worth buying? I mean obviously this depends on real world usage, but still...
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Likely not worth it?
Also would depend how long you keep the phone? More ram would be a better future proofing option?
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Likely not worth it?
Also would depend how long you keep the phone? More ram would be a better future proofing option?
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Right point here. Future-proofing on this hardware is very tempting and viable.
I guess the real question is: if, let's say, you record 8K or buff high res video or run dex or play a high demanding game, BUT one at a time, with no superposition between such memory/processor-hungry apps, will the phone perform faster/smoother/more efficiently (battery-wise) in the 16 GB config, as opposed to 12 GB setup? Ignoring multitasking, focusing on single-tasking.
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Right point here. Future-proofing on this hardware is very tempting and viable.
I guess the real question is: if, let's say, you record 8K or buff high res video or run dex or play a high demanding game, BUT one at a time, with no superposition between such memory/processor-hungry apps, will the phone perform faster/smoother/more efficiently (battery-wise) in the 16 GB config, as opposed to 12 GB setup? Ignoring multitasking, focusing on single-tasking.
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That's a good question. I don't think that can be answered without tests.
Definitely the bigger number. Bigger is always better, right?
What's future proofing?
Most of you will be trading your (S20 Ultra) in for a maxed out Note 20 in August, right?
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Definitely the bigger number. Bigger is always better, right?
What's future proofing?
Most of you will be trading your (S20 Ultra) in for a maxed out Note 20 in August, right?
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Yes, bigger is generally better. The point is if bigger is really necessary or not (i.e. overkill) for certain usage patterns.
Future proofing means ensuring that you get the most advanced hardware/technology specs at a certain point in time in order to ensure that your device will not be outrun by future devices very time soon and will support more demanding future apps. In our case, if you buy the 16 GB variant, for sure you will not need to upgrade your phone for the next couple of years, RAM will likely be more than sufficient for running any apps that could possibly be launched in the future, no matter how memory intensive they would be.
I personally am not a Note fan, I don't use the sPen.
katolink said:
Just wanted to catch your opinion on the real benefits of buying the 16 GB variant as opposed to 12 GB model. Make abstraction of the storage capacity increase, just assume that you don't really need 512 GB as long as you have expandable storage (via microSD) to use if really needed.
I am thinking of arguments justifying the additional RAM increase, considering that 12 GB is already more than enough for multitasking., even for running 2-3 RAM-intensive games at the same time
Looking forward to your opinions! :good: Thank you!
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@ 16 gigs -
- In theory, yes better..
In practical usage, I highly,highly doubt it.
Well worth the extra RAM, I'm getting this phone 12GB purely because it's my main work tool and use some ram hungry apps all day, being able to put the main 3 in RAM with larger brighter screen and larger battery is well worth the money .
I spend 9 hours a day using a phone
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katolink said:
Yes, bigger is generally better. The point is if bigger is really necessary or not (i.e. overkill) for certain usage patterns.
Future proofing means ensuring that you get the most advanced hardware/technology specs at a certain point in time in order to ensure that your device will not be outrun by future devices very time soon and will support more demanding future apps. In our case, if you buy the 16 GB variant, for sure you will not need to upgrade your phone for the next couple of years, RAM will likely be more than sufficient for running any apps that could possibly be launched in the future, no matter how memory intensive they would be.
I personally am not a Note fan, I don't use the sPen.
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I was being sarcastic.
16GB is pure marketing, nothing more.
By the time 16GB is relevant on mobile devices, the CPU would be so outdated and slow.
Storage OTOH, matters more than anything.
8K video at decent bit rates; 200Mbps and up, uses a LOT of storage. As will better multichannel audio.
8K seems to be a gimmick at first but when you look at how much info you have in each frame, and there are 24 of them each second, it makes it so much easier to get a still from that video that simply wouldn't be possible by shooting pics with the regular snapper. Serious DSLR users are laughing, but you can't fit one in your pocket!
Storage irrelevant to me as everything I do is saved in the cloud
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Until you have no signal coverage.
As commented with he increase in camera specs it will consume a lot of data. 8K will default to internal memory so for me it's important.
bomp306 said:
Until you have no signal coverage.
As commented with he increase in camera specs it will consume a lot of data. 8K will default to internal memory so for me it's important.
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Internal memory or microSD card, which can be up to 1 TB. From this perspective, choosing the 16 GB RAM model just because it has 512 GB internal memory does not seem necessary. Well, unless you cannot use a memory card because you have 2 SIMs inserted in the hybrid slot and your carrier does not support eSIM
Hence, IMO the real choice is between the two RAM sizes, rather than internal memory specs.
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Internal memory or microSD card, which can be up to 1 TB. From this perspective, choosing the 16 GB RAM model just because it has 512 GB internal memory does not seem necessary. Well, unless you cannot use a memory card because you have 2 SIMs inserted in the hybrid slot and your carrier does not support eSIM
Hence, IMO the real choice is between the two RAM sizes, rather than internal memory specs.
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Internal memory is MUCH faster than ANY microSD card!
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Internal memory is MUCH faster than ANY microSD card!
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But you still use internal memory for storage, isn't it? So what's the deal? Where does faster internal memory help?