Snapdragon 808 vs Snapdragon 650/652? Which is better? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello, I wanted to know from 3 processors, which of the 3 best yields in games, heating etc? Greetings and thank you

Anyone know?

Clearly the 808 I would guess.

RogerF81 said:
Clearly the 808 I would guess.
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Nope.
650 is better.
http://mobile.hdblog.it/2016/01/15/Chip-confronto-Snapdragon-650-vs-808-vs-Helio-X10/

Cloudus91 said:
Nope.
650 is better.
http://mobile.hdblog.it/2016/01/15/Chip-confronto-Snapdragon-650-vs-808-vs-Helio-X10/
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Oh, I find this really surprising!

RogerF81 said:
Oh, I find this really surprising!
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The 808 and 810 were "bad" cpus from Qualcomm as they both had major issues with overheating and were mostly stock arm design (A57/A53). While the 650 is also a stock design the big cores are now A72 and that should come with some performance gain. It is worth noting the that 650 is 28nm HPm but the 808 was 20nm HPm and that should give the 808 a edge for power use but that could be canceled out by core design.
Please note that the links below are about a combination of of core design and fabrication process. In the case of 808 -> 650 you get a better core but a less ideal fabrication.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9184/arm-reveals-cortex-a72-architecture-details
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/arm-details-its-new-high-end-cpu-core-cortex-a72/

The 820 runs games perfect. Max settings with no frame drops over here. Its power consumption is quite low too

Kye2000 said:
The 820 runs games perfect. Max settings with no frame drops over here. Its power consumption is quite low too
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Well, besides the 821, I think the 820 is the best Snapdragon out there. But the price is accordingly to that, unfortunately...

lart2150 said:
The 808 and 810 were "bad" cpus from Qualcomm as they both had major issues with overheating and were mostly stock arm design (A57/A53). While the 650 is also a stock design the big cores are now A72 and that should come with some performance gain. It is worth noting the that 650 is 28nm HPm but the 808 was 20nm HPm and that should give the 808 a edge for power use but that could be canceled out by core design.
Please note that the links below are about a combination of of core design and fabrication process. In the case of 808 -> 650 you get a better core but a less ideal fabrication.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9184/arm-reveals-cortex-a72-architecture-details
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/arm-details-its-new-high-end-cpu-core-cortex-a72/
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I can see the adreno 418 inside the 808 is on par on the adreno 510 of the snapdragon 652? Am i right?
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kevin_23 said:
I can see the adreno 418 inside the 808 is on par on the adreno 510 of the snapdragon 652? Am i right?
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808 vs 652 should get about the same 3d graphics.
http://www.gsmarena.com/antutu_benc...napdragon_820_tops_competition-news-17097.php

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Gen 9 1Ghz vs 1.2 Ghz vs 1.5 Ghz

See that
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Cajl and Karenax !
Seems like the performance difference between the 1GHz and the 1.2GHz is about the same as between the 1.2GHz and the 1.5GHz
is it possible to just oveclock the 1ghz version? instead of paying more for a 1.2 or 1.5 version?
yeahman45 said:
is it possible to just oveclock the 1ghz version? instead of paying more for a 1.2 or 1.5 version?
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Probably, yes... with root and a little work on the kernel. Main reason you pay more for the 1.2GHz version is it has double the storage.
TjaXanK said:
Probably, yes... with root and a little work on the kernel. Main reason you pay more for the 1.2GHz version is it has double the storage.
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Not only storage... Even if it's 4430, which has not really been confirmed, kernel source code shows that 1.2 socs have different ids (probably certified by Texas to run at this speed) and also that Archos have specific radiators for them.
letama said:
Not only storage... Even if it's 4430, which has not really been confirmed, kernel source code shows that 1.2 socs have different ids (probably certified by Texas to run at this speed) and also that Archos have specific radiators for them.
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Yes well ,in this case we will still probably be able to Overclock the cpu... and get it up to 1.2GHz... the Gen8 could be overclocked to 1.2GHz... am I wrong in assuming this? (Haven't looked at the kernel yet since my device is not here yet and I wouldn't be able to test my work.
If only we knew when the 1.5 turbo edition was going to come out.
TjaXanK said:
Probably, yes... with root and a little work on the kernel. Main reason you pay more for the 1.2GHz version is it has double the storage.
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Of course, if all the theoreticals turn out to be true, and you bought the 1.5 GHz you could overclock that too and probably get to a much higher number...
I would like to buy Archos 101 G9 Turbo 16GB, but how do I tell if the 1.2GHz or 1.5GHz?
1.2GHz and 1.5GHz are on the box packaging alone 'TURBO'.
Many thanks...
I don't know beforehand but once you have the tablet you can run Quadrant : https://market.android.com/details?id=com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.standard&hl=en to see the clock speed.
1.5GHz one has 1GB ram
haerwu said:
1.5GHz one has 1GB ram
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They will start coming with 1GB RAM later on (end of Feb?, not sure of actual date), but I believe that any 1.5GHz devices that are currently available have 512MB of RAM.
huijaa said:
1.2GHz and 1.5GHz are on the box packaging alone 'TURBO'
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My box says "Turbo version: ultra fast dual-core processor" on the top-right corner. I'm not sure if all of the 1.5GHz models say that, but mine does.
@Harfainx
what is your P/N
my :
it is a 250go 1.5 ghz
and you ?
cajl: 512 or 1024MB ram?
512 mo..
1024 de ram afer the middle of march
cajl said:
@Harfainx
what is your P/N
my :
it is a 250go 1.5 ghz
and you ?
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Sorry cajl, forgot to check that.
My serial number is different (of course)
My UPC is 6 90590 51887 2
My PN is 109918 (same as yours, but mine is the 16GB version)

Snapdragon beats tegra by far?

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-xl-benchmark-snapdragon-s4-tegra-3-67678/
That means that middle range device (One S) would be faster than HTC's flagship?
Until the two devices are put side by side, all of this is just silly speculation really.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's not impossible that they've dropped the ball but I'll be very shocked if
A) The S out performs the X
B) The XL is much, if any, faster than the X
i'm not sure ... but maybe the current benchmarks are simply not optimized for quad core processors. at least it is the only reason i could imagine ... why else should a dual core SoC perform better with the same GHz?
kreilinger said:
i'm not sure ... but maybe the current benchmarks are simply not optimized for quad core processors. at least it is the only reason i could imagine ... why else should a dual core SoC perform better with the same GHz?
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Amd fx 6core vs intel 4core i7 anyone? intel beats the amd cpu in terms of instructions per cycle
Send from my HTC HD 2
benchs are the easiest way to fool people, no wide margins here, they trade blows, T3 winds in true multitasking, 720p coverage and GPU, if we look at Antutu test T3 wins by large margins
Velloma is a test made by Qualcomm (Snapdragon makers) that doesn't scale linear across multi-core https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quicinc.vellamo&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5xdWljaW5jLnZlbGxhbW8iXQ..
Qualcomm says that's because Antutu's tests scale linearly with the number of cores - in other words, it's using multiple cores too well, from Qualcomm's perspective. That means a quad-core processor has a huge advantage over a dual-core processor, even a very fast one, on that specific test.
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400409,00.asp
guys Anandtech already posted benchmarks of both devices, the S is carrying the dual s4 minus LTE, T3 and s4 are trading blows, these processors are almost equal, however keep in mind T3 has to do with native resolution in some tests, which is 77% more pixels, its clear T3 is doing better and more suited for the 720p display
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
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All this info already present in the Mega Information Thread
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Want more proof?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-krait-performance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
Again, we're showing a huge performance advantage here thanks to Krait. Seeing as how Vellamo is a Qualcomm benchmark don't get too attached to the advantage here, but it does echo some of what we've seen earlier.
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I believe Anandtech and PC Mag better than some random internet OMFG!
Come up guys there is a great thread where we have discussed all these. Please take some time to read it.

[Q] HTC reduced cpu frequency in update?

Hello, I heard that HTC reduced the processor frequency in "One X", due to the high temperature of tegra and battery lifetime (In update, maybe 1.29?). Is that true?
Sorry, but my english isn't good.
flowerman said:
Hello, I heard that HTC reduced the processor frequency in "One X", due to the high temperature of tegra and battery lifetime (In update, maybe 1.29?). Is that true?
Sorry, but my english isn't good.
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My AnTuTu score went up so I'm guessing not.
flowerman said:
Hello, I heard that HTC reduced the processor frequency in "One X", due to the high temperature of tegra and battery lifetime (In update, maybe 1.29?). Is that true?
Sorry, but my english isn't good.
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not reduced just doesn't ramp up as often as before
Thank for answers
I didn't know that antutu shows the cpu frequency
hamdir said:
not reduced just doesn't ramp up as often as before
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Did they change the CPU scaling governor?
I remember talk a little while back about On Demand and Interactive governors and which one was best
flowerman said:
Thank for answers
I didn't know that antutu shows the cpu frequency
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antutu only shows what the max speed is and its only 1.5 on a single core, when on 4 cores you can only get 1.2 GHZ and 1.4 GHZ on 2 cores.
look at terga stats at bottom on screens
4 cores bench
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2 cores bench
So reduced frequency it's true? Earlier (after updates) unless Tegra 3 had 1.3ghz on 4 cores ?
flowerman said:
So reduced frequency it's true? Earlier (after updates) unless Tegra 3 had 1.3ghz on 4 cores ?
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No It's always been like this, the update changes how the CPU speeds up and down e.g 50 MHz in idle to max speed, all its done is help the phone use the lowest possible speed to save battery.
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ZOPO Hero 2 /5.5' 1 GB 16 GB/ MT6737 TWRP

ZOPO HERO 2 or Color F2
Display: 5.5 inch 1280 x 720 HD IPS Screen
CPU: MTK6737 Quad Core , ARM ,Cortex-A53
GPU: Mali-T720MP1 , 550 MHz
System: Android 6.0
1GB RAM
16GB ROM.
TF card up to 64GB
Camera:
Back 8MP GC 8024
Front 2 MP GC 2365
Battery
2300mAh probably in reality 1750mAh
OTA: Yes
OTG : Yes
Bluetooth: 4.0
4G
2xSIM MICRO& Nano, SD card. Nicely placed so you do not have to remove the battery
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TWRP 3.0.2 by Jemmini attached.
Hands on impressions
It is a nice phone as far as build quality is concerned. and there it ends.
CPU MT6737.
But a small battery of 2300mAh =1750mAh makes it difficult to use with ease.
Even with energy efficient MT6737CPU. it is weak performance of the battery.
CPU is clocked at 1.25MHz so it drains the battery.
Not very nice photos from the rear camera GC8024 sensor, 8MP. Photos with quit natural colors but a lot of noise and not sharp.
Generally nice with metal frame.
A bit greyish display typical for 60USD range.
Performance
The quad-core processor MediaTek MT6737 clocked at 1.3 GHz, has a Mali-T720 GPU and is at 1GB RAM associated. The 64-bit processor would should in any event on paper be better than MT6580. In practice it is the opposite. The framework is not running truly fluid, longer holding up times one should regularly acknowledge and when different applications running out of sight, the ZOPO Color F2 is truly moderate. Zopo Hero 2 / Color F2 is in this way appropriate for close to standard errands.
The touch screen is not accurate enough for high-speed recorder, the camera normal shooting unsuitable and the GPS a total failure.
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With only 1Gb ram is really a crap device..
i understand the price range, but honestly 2Gb ram and decent battery are the minumim requirements to have a good chance to sell some units..
megthebest said:
With only 1Gb ram is really a crap device..
i understand the price range, but honestly 2Gb ram and decent battery are the minumim requirements to have a good chance to sell some units..
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I agree as far as the battery is concerned. If 1GB was the only bad point than most devices like new Oukitel units and others in economy range 50-70 USD we should call crap.
But they sell some units anyway.
The battery and camera are the worst features in ZOPO Hero2 or F2 IMHO
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This TWRP for zopo hero 2 works? I own the device

UMI Z with Helio X27

UMI Z with Helio X27 coming soon.
UMI allegedly have a device ready to be released in December and this mysterious UMI Z could be the first one with the Helio X27 chip onboard. it�ll be offered in a 6GB RAM configuration, and should have a 4,000mAh battery with up to 64 or 128GB of storage space with microSD expansion
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Mediatek Helio X27 (MT6797X), The new Helio SoCs upgrade the overall performance, camera quality and power consumption of the SoC family.It is a similar tri-cluster deca-core design like the X2x predecessors, but the maximum frequency goes up to 2,6 GHz on the most powerful ARM Cortex A-72 cluster. There is also a frequency bump for the Mali-T880MP4 GPU. It has MiraVision EnergySmart Screen technology to greatly enhance power efficiency and upgraded Imagiq ISP for camera processing adding built-in 3D depth engine for depth of field processing and multi-scale de-noise engines.
The X27 continue along MediaTek's Tri-Cluster Deca-Core architecture on a 20nm process, with cluster setups of 2x Cortex-A72 + 4x Cortex-A53 + 4x Cortex-A53,Helio X27 also leads the pack in the GPU, with a slight increase in speed of the Mali-T880 MP4 from 850MHz
The differences manifest themselves in the various clock speeds of the clusters, the clock speeds of the GPU and the presence of what MediaTek is calling "EnergySmart Screen" feature.
MediaTek is claiming best in-class performance and power consumption with the new SoCs, with overall processing improvement of more than 20% and "significant" increases in Web browsing and application launching speeds. The SoCs also support dual camera photography with MediaTek's upgraded Imagiq ISP (Image Signal-Processing) solution, which MediaTek claims is the first ISP to integrate color and mono cameras and depth-of-field applications into a single ISP.
With regards to MiraVision EnergySmart Screen technology, this is a power-saving tech which modifies the display parameters based on the on-screen content and ambient lighting, claiming up to 25% reduction in display power consumption while maintaining the best visual experience possible. It will be interesting to see this technology in practice through competent OEMs on good displays and experience the quality tradeoff (or as MediaTek claims, the lack of tradeoff).
UMi Z specifications and features
Operating system ; Pure Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow/ Android 7.0 OTA
CPU ; MTK Helio X27, 10x Cortex A72+ 2.6GHZ
GPU ; Mali-T880 MP4, 875MHz
Memory ; RAM 4GB+ ROM 32GB
Battery ; Quick Charge ,3780mAH/4.35V,PE+ 2.5A/1.67A(5V/7V/9V) 1.25A(12V)
Screen ; 5.5 inch,SHARP® IGZO (2.5D Arc screen), 1920x1080 pixels
Rear Camera -13MP SAMSUNG S5K3L8,PDAF auto-focus,Laser auto-focus,Quad-LED flash
Front camera -13MP FF SAMSUNG S5K3L8,Softlight LED
Video ;1080P, 2K, 4K
If Design are the same like umi zero.. I buy one... I have the zero...
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