How is the Camera? - Asus ZenFone 3 Deluxe Questions & Answers

So, how good is the camera? The specs look awesome, but I've seen some videos that look less than inspiring. I'm specifically interested in indoor and low light performance. I'm trying to decide between this phone and the LG V10, and I like everything else about the Z3D more, but I *really* want a nice camera. I'd love to see some sample photos.

Won't find anything better than the Microsoft phones for camera. But Android usually Samsung has it locked down. The Zenfone is not bad but not as good as Samsung and no where near the Microsoft phones.

vs Note 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEEb2zy7H6Y
vs iP6s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ7x8xlUen0

Vocal consumers who would review the phone to give a normal everyday perspective of the camera haven't received the phone yet. It's just now shipping to places like US/CAN. Though India and Taiwan have had it for quite some time.
However one thing is clear regarding the camera based on the many reviews already out there:
The camera is average.
It's better than some popular budget flagship $400US phones (think OnePlus3, Axon 7, ZUK 2) but trailing behind other higher range phones (Pixel XL, LG v20, discontinued Note 7). It's not that the phone can't produce great pictures (lowlight or otherwise) - it has the hardware and sensors to do so built in the phone. It has to do with the Asus software/firmware for the camera. If Asus can manage to take advantage of that superior hardware, the phone could match up against the Pixel which has currently been identified as the smartphone with the best camera. However, I wouldn't hold my breath or wager my purchase of this phone on that possibility.

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Upgrade Suggestions

Although my nexus is only about 2 years old, in this day and age, it feels like it's getting outdated and old. I'm starting to get an itch to upgrade my GNex phone and wouldn't mind a few suggestions. My GNex is the first smartphone that I really started to use it as a information consumption device to browse the web, read articles and play games on. As such I've found I do spend a lot of time on it. The things that bother me most are as follows:
1. Poor battery life - even with the 2000mah samsung battery, this hardly gets me through a day without plugging it in somewhere (I don't like carrying extra batteries or a portable battery)
2. Speakers - hardly audible loudspeaker to watch any videos or youtube
3. Screen brightness - I'd say this is acceptable but not as good as it could be
4. Touchscreen responsiveness - not really jittery or lag as that was fixed with jelly bean, but the touchscreen does lag compared to an iphone. I'm not sure if that's just and android or a hardware issue
Things I do like about my Nexus
1. Stock android - for quick updates and no bloatware
2. Formfactor - I think the size is about right, I can do with a bit larger screen like the S4 but not as big as a samsung galaxy note. I want to still be able to put the phone in my back pocket.
Things that I don't really care for
1. Removable battery - I don't see myself ever taking another battery with me
2. Removable microSD card - My 16gb is fine, I never store large videos or files in my phone
3. Camera - Decent pictures are fine, I don't use the camera for anything other than posting or record photos...
4. Super high end build quality - Metal back, glass, anodized aluminum... it's nice but not necessary and doesn't really sway in my decisions
So for those of you who have used other phones, are you able to give some advice in comparison relative to the GNex. I was thinking of the samsung galaxy s4, but wasn't so sure how the battery life compares given it has a faster processor and bigger screen as well as how different the touchwiz is. The LG G2 looks promising too with the 3000mah battery, but I'm hearing mixed reviews with the software and weird button layout.
Any other suggestions on phones... I haven't looked at any of the sony line up or the HTC. If anyone has any first hand experience it would be great, especially from a GNex user.
I would hold out for the N5. I'm unfortunately on Verizon, and as of 2 weeks ago, not a single phone looks appealing to me. I wish my contract was up soon so I could get an N4 on T-MO for the time being. The HTC One is a very good phone also from what I've seen.
I might get chewed up with this comment but....
I too have been itching for an upgrade and I share similar grievances , however I've more or less made up my mind.
Likely candidate: iPhone 5S
I'm ready to jump onto the bandwagon. I've had android phones for as long as I can remember so it's definitely not bias. My reasons for choosing an iPhone over another android device are simple. I absolutely hate the build quality on most of the newer flagship android headsets...traditional plastic. Ever since the iPhone 4, apple has been paying a little more attention to build quality. Since I'm paying ~$700 on a headset anyways, I'll go for an arguably better build quality.
I don't care much for the fingerprint sensor but the new camera features are pretty nice such as 120fps @ 720p stopped down to 24 in post makes for a nice slow motion effect. I used to own a Canon 5D Mark III but had to depart from it for financial reasons and I really enjoyed photography while I owned it. I'd love to pursue that hobby again with the iPhones larger aperture and stabilization. Granted the image quality will be much more inferior to a professional DSLR, I'm sure I can get a good kick out of the improved camera.
Then, I own an iPad and I gotta say I fell in love with iOS 7's new UI design. Many critics call it confusing and childish but I think it's a right step away from leather and brushed steel textures as well as bubbly icons. As I've owned android headsets for a long time, iOS just seems like a welcomed change.
Lastly, I built my own Hackintosh last year after selling my MBP in pursuit of more processing power without the sacrifice of a limb for an apple workstation. As I run OSX on this PC, and having an iPad, my phone stands out as the odd one out. I'd like to reduce fragmentation amongst my devices.
I could care less for a 5" screen that android devices are pumping out, I don't care for the future hexa and octa core phones, and in all honestly...I'm done dealing with roots, custom ROMs and radios. No body forced me to do it sure, that's a valid point but being a college student, flashing is an addiction I can no longer fulfill. I just need something that works.
If you want to be shackled to the itunes then go for an iPhone 5S otherwise get the cheapest, value for money device the N5, which has an equivalent performance of the A7 plus the Nexus gives you a straight 2 updates insurance/ or whatever you may call, with the best dev community !
I'd be getting myself an N5, skipped the N4 for it !
iPhone 5s or N5, all the rest are inferior now, the N5 will have similar benchmarks to iPhone 5s , quad core, octocore means nothing if its not optimized an android chews the CPU an ram way more than iOS that's why apple doesn't need it, like you said roms an all that are pointless unless you have older device that Google has dropped from official updates, nothing beats latest official stock updates.
I still choose the N5 over the iPhone 5s though with its 13mp camera ect.
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If you want to be shackled to the itunes then go for an iPhone 5S otherwise get the cheapest, value for money device the N5, which has an equivalent performance of the A7 plus the Nexus gives you a straight 2 updates insurance/ or whatever you may call, with the best dev community !
I'd be getting myself an N5, skipped the N4 for it !
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Being "shackled" to iTunes is not exactly a life sentence. I don't see many drawbacks/differences than with android. Then, perhaps because I've been spoiled by the Nexus, but the 2 "guaranteed" updates me a nothing to me now...I don't get on-board with the hype trains that haunt said updates.
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fux0r99 said:
iPhone 5s or N5, all the rest are inferior now, the N5 will have similar benchmarks to iPhone 5s , quad core, octocore means nothing if its not optimized an android chews the CPU an ram way more than iOS that's why apple doesn't need it, like you said roms an all that are pointless unless you have older device that Google has dropped from official updates, nothing beats latest official stock updates.
I still choose the N5 over the iPhone 5s though with its 13mp camera ect.
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Agreed with pretty much everything except the camera. Having more megapixels can be nice for cropping but the quality does not increase. Chances are you won't be sharing 13MP photos either. What matters most is the the sensor size, and at this time and age pretty much all mobile sensors are identical specially in low light sensitivity. Aperture is another important aspect when it comes to photography, and there really isn't much you can do with a mobile lens to actually call it a "revolutionary" improvement.
I'm waiting for the N5. It shouldn't be much longer. 2 months MAX.
I'd love to get the Note 3 but the N5 price will be hard to beat since I am on a prepaid plan.
N5 Man
I have to agree with most people so far and say to wait until the N5 will be released. There will be a ton of original dev on that device for sure.
Go with your heart.
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If I were on Verizon right now I would go with the LG G2 or the Droid Maxx. But I would wait for the Nexus 5 and see what that brings.

Do you think the oneplus 3T is a better phone than the pixel xl?

I currently have the Pixel Xl and its a nice phone but the 3T comes in at half the price and I don't mind a 1080p screen. Those using the regular oneplus 3 what are your thoughts?
well yeah. depend on your needs tho, not gonna talk about specs. average user wise, op3 is better due to support and general customization. in my country, google phone are non-existence, you can't get it fixed at shop, can't find any temper glass and ect on local webstore. generally, if you can go back to having mono speaker and somewhat buggy and unsatisfying software, go for op3. if you want the ultimate software from google, stereo speaker, less third party support, then pick pixel.
with the op3t included in the comparison however, op3t is ultimately better since it comes with nougat. as for pricing, up to your country.
disclaimer: i own op3, but played with abroad friend's pixel.
Pixel XL is definitely better as long as price is not taken into account. When it is OP3T for the win. It doesn't come with Nougat by the way, as far as I read.
The most noticeable thing I'd that the Pixel XL camera is going to be better (mainly because of SW, not HW)
You'll also see faster OS updates with the pixel but the OnePlus 3 will have more customization
Standby battery drain should be similar and screen on time should be a bit better on the OnePlus 3T since it has a 1080p screen instead of a QHD screen
OnePlus 3 is probably the device where you get the most quality for the lower price. I have mine for almost three weeks and I am quite happy with how it performs.
Also another thing that is great about OnePlus 3 is their community, it is somewhat friendly and the higher ranked members are quite helpful. Additionally they also have a big modding community on their own which is how I got to know XDA as somethings shared there come from here.
Regarding Google Pixel XL, I never had one of those in my hands (or any smartphone produced by Google) so I abstain of forming opinions about it.
The OP3 is a better device.
So what exactly is better? I went to bestbuy to check the Pixel and the build quality is a lot better than the Pixel. Custom software is added benefit as well. There is so much that you can do with the OP3 fingerprint sensor. I could not live without one! The FP placement on the Pixel isn't convenient at all. I don't see the Nougat as a benefit since the Marshmallow is good enough for me.
The Pixel has a better camera and Nougat. That's it. That's what you pay for. Determine if its worth it or not.
The OP3 is definitely better device. I love my phone!
If you want faster OS updates, a miles better camera than OP3, and pure stock android experience with dedicated google's under the hood tweaks, i would suggest to go with Pixel XL. If price is a deciding factor, go for OP 3T as it can give you theoratically same experience and fluidity + good camera and average times software updates.
Why would you even want to consider this if you already have pixel xl?

OnePlus 6?

Anyone here going for the OnePlus 6?
If it supported Verizon...I would no doubt. But, no such luck this time around either.
No! Going to keep my badboy Pixel XL 2!!
Hell no! I've got enough data mining in my life already! ?
Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
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Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
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3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
NO!
No. OnePlus is an awful company.
No, im not going back to oneplus .
From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
Question is why would i?
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3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
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Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
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Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Due to no dual sim support, I had to live with samsung. S9+ has better camera, beauty and display though battery life is worse compare to pixel 2 xl even with full hd+ we all know it is due to bloatware services/apps.
Heard rumours that Apple is also considering dual sim versions for next iPhone, hope google do consider dual sim versions.
By the way I did try huawei honor v10 and 20 pro. Unfortunately work profile issues and bad support made me avoid them completely.
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No. OnePlus is an awful company.
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and liars. I got OP5 and returned, because camera was terrible, but they talked about "clearer photos". They lied in performance test.....for me they bad reputation company
FrankBullitt said:
From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
Had 3 devices from OP so far (OPO, OP5 and OP5T) and still use them but not going to get another one anymore. Why? Because Pixel devices is what suits me the best... top hardware with top software.
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Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
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The quoted post above is sponsored by OnePlus, where "Never Settle" is an oxymoron.
You mentioned us P2XL owners having blinders on when nothing could be further from the truth. While we may have unwanted press over non-issues such as blue shifting and color profiles, at least our devices were assembled with the screens pointed in the right direction, unlike the OP5T.
Ignoring the fact that people rarely view their devices at the extreme angles required for the blue shift to be noticeable, the phenomenon is inherent in ALL AMOLED displays. My Galaxy S4 has it. My Nexus 6 has it. My P2XL has it. Of the three the S4, having an early AMOLED screen, has blue shift to a greater degree than either my Nexus 6 or my P2XL.
The only reason blue shift and the color profile were even mentioned is to drive page views. As for the color profile non-issue, I use the original color profile and not the boosted or saturated modes. No problems here, and in fact I enjoy the color accuracy.
OnePlus having a FHD screen is not a problem if you're not used to anything else. But a flagship device has a QHD display, period. What OnePlus has done here is what they have always done: compromise. When they stop, perhaps then we'll take notice.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
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Yes, my comments have no ground.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/co...soon_discontinuing_development_i_wont/dyi9wh0
It's not just the camera; everything on the Pixel 2 is way, way more polished than anything that OnePlus (and I on my own) could ever make.
As much as I hate to admit it, my custom ROMs can't touch the stock ROM on the Pixel 2 in terms of polish and performance. Lately I've been doing more scientific performance assessments on Android (for the sake of research with a professor at my university), instead of just using the phone and thinking, "Seems good to me!," and the results I pulled off the Pixel 2 absolutely crush the results I pulled from stock LineageOS 15.1 on the 3T. It is very difficult to get frame drops while playing with the Pixel 2, whereas I instantly recorded frame drops galore on the 3T. This has been a bit of a wakeup call to me in that I need to reevaluate my ideology and follow a more scientific strategy in optimizing Android on a phone (i.e., using the dozens of test suites Google has built for Android). The bugs that bother users the most are the ones that tend to happen a small percentage of the time (like random reboots), and the Pixel 2 has clearly been optimized to the point where most of those rare bugs are nonexistent (e.g., frames are rarely dropped).
When I ran one of Google's UI performance test apps on the Pixel 2 against my LineageOS 14.1 ROM on the 3T, my ROM dropped frames nonstop (according to this tool) while the Pixel 2 dropped zero frames...
Deep down, I'm a kernel developer and that's where I excel. I'd rather stick to what I know (and enjoy) with kernel hacking and leave the pain of polishing userspace to Google's army of engineers.
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You were saying something about oneplus, weren't you?
I owned oneplus phones, I owned Nexus, I own a Pixel2XL. Tell me about daily performance again, please.

Galaxy a50 vs Note 9: 1) ability to root and 2) pros/cons

Looking to get back into the Android modding world.
These things are important to me:
Custom Roms / rooting / unlocked bootloader
Fast
Large screen
(Stylus)
Expandable storage
Wireless charging
Don't care about headphone jack
The Note 9 (certain versions, either Exynos chipset or the n9600?) seems to meet all of these criteria, but... the a50 is *so* much cheaper.
Other than the stylus obviously, is the a50 comparable to the Note 9?
I mean, yeah, it is slightly behind in resolution, the scratch-resistance of the glass, the CPU / SOC, RAM (6 GB vs 4 GB), but it has a much better camera (which is kind of important to me, but not a game breaker).
I don't care that the Note 9 is water/dust resistant.
I would be using the phone on Ting here in the U.S.
Edit: I am also considering the Google Pixel (3, 3a xl, 4 XL) and the OnePlus 6T or Pro 7
I say don't get A50 if you want to play around with it. Yes, it's a great value phone, but only for average users. So far there's only few GSI ROMs and it's still somewhat buggy for most people.
Consider a OnePlus phone instead. It has great support for custom ROMs and tweaks.
I've got a Note 9 and the wife has an A50 (which I update etc as she's rather technophobic ... )
They are actually very similar in size, just that the N9 is noticeably heavier - though I personally don't have any issues with that. I use the stylus quite a bit so that's another point in its favour, as is the ability to use custom ROMs/root it/etc. Oh, I'm in the UK so have the Exynos version.
Not sure about the A50 being 'buggy' as the one we have works fine in day to day use on a completely stock ROM. Android 10 should be out for it anytime soon as well.
Oh, and the N9 is also noticeably faster, just installing apps, for example.
That's my experience anyway.
Dude, I don't know where in the US do you live (regarding to phones prices), and I don't mean to be rude, but this question makes no sense at all. You're comparing a flagship phone to a mid-range budget phone from nearly the same time.
It's fairly obvious that a higher-end, more expensive phone will be better in almost every aspect. No need to compare at all: SO MUCH better hardware, absolutely better camera (more quality and functions such as a better pro mode), additional functionality (DeX, MHL), etc. It's only fair... since one retailed for something like 800 dollars (N9) and the other one for around 280 USD...
By the way, I would certainly not recommend Samsung if you're into modding. Samsung phones are OK but they lack a lot of community development and customization mainly because of Exynos chipsets and locked bootloaders. There are obviously a few exceptions such as some international models that use Qualcomm processors, but that's it.
EDIT: what I meant is that the price difference between both phones, translates into A50 being a less capable product in every aspect. It's not bad at all for it's price, but keep in mind it's a 250 dollar phone. If you can afford N9, it's a flagship, and certainly not too old to be relevant in 2020.
If you can't go for it, maybe set for something in the middle like an A70? That one comes with a Snapdragon SoC, which brings support to GCam and stuff.

OnePlus 8 Pro India Thread

Hey Guys, Lets use this thread for India 8pro.
I am currently using Huawei P30 pro and planning to shift to OP8P, if the camera is at par with other flagship phones.
Let the thoughts flow
- I doubt the camera will be on par with other top of the line flagships. Moreover the hype so far hasn't been on the camera - maybe it says something about its inferiority but that I'm just guessing only, for now.
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- I doubt the camera will be on par with other top of the line flagships. Moreover the hype so far hasn't been on the camera - maybe it says something about its inferiority but that I'm just guessing only, for now.
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Sony imx689 is one of the best sensors in mobile industry and if oppo can achieve excellent images from it then oneplus can surely oneup them becuase oneplus has always had better software algorithms compared to oppo although both have same parent company. You can find reviews of oppo find x2 pro anywhere on internet, it is basically same as oneplus 8 pro albiet some design changes and without periscopic zoom.
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Came across a leak stating the price of oneplus 8 pro at 6499 yuan. That converts to 68999/- really hope it doesnt cross 60k
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Sony imx689 is one of the best sensors in mobile industry and if oppo can achieve excellent images from it then oneplus can surely oneup them becuase oneplus has always had better software algorithms compared to oppo although both have same parent company. You can find reviews of oppo find x2 pro anywhere on internet, it is basically same as oneplus 8 pro albiet some design changes and without periscopic zoom.
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Well aware of those, it's just that based on the history of OnePlus @ overall camera performance and not so factual camera hype in the past, I'm curiously looking forward to the cameras than anything else, as the rest(excluding their recent trend of curves) never disappointed.
kumar abhishek said:
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Came across a leak stating the price of oneplus 8 pro at 6499 yuan. That converts to 68999/- really hope it doesnt cross 60k
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Cosidering official IP certification, wireless charging, hiked GST etc., 60K is less likely I think.
Virgo_Guy said:
Well aware of those, it's just that based on the history of OnePlus @ overall camera performance and not so factual camera hype in the past, I'm curiously looking forward to the cameras than anything else, as the rest(excluding their recent trend of curves) never disappointed.
Cosidering official IP certification, wireless charging, hiked GST etc., 60K is less likely I think.
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There are hyping the camera this time around. An example is here
https://twitter.com/oneplus/status/1247147094130987011?s=19
Its just that their core focus is keeping the same marketing strategy like in past and that is hyping the speed.
And yes you are right i can see them going north of 65k this time around.
kumar abhishek said:
There are hyping the camera this time around. An example is here
https://twitter.com/oneplus/status/1247147094130987011?s=19
Its just that their core focus is keeping the same marketing strategy like in past and that is hyping the speed.
And yes you are right i can see them going north of 65k this time around.
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Even if they hype, my eyebrows still get raised @ OP's camera, especially bcoz of terms like "intelligent pixel technology" @ 5T, 111 DxO score of 7 Pro etc.. but then, this time around I expect them to offer something unquestionably stellar with those capable sensors.
Thankfully, the speed so far has been proven as real in every iteration and as long as the "speed hype" reflects across the board I don't mind it at all.
When will these go on actual sale in India?
What are your expectations for indian pricing?
I think the price for 8 pro 12/256 GB will be around 70k. Well, we will know in a few days. For the first time, I am genuinely interested in a oneplus device (have been using Samsung Galaxy for years). Thanks to Samsung going nuts with S20 series, I might actually end up buying the top spec 8 pro! Just waiting for an in depth camera review before jumping in though. I'm totally in, if the camera results are comparable to find X2 pro, which is better than s20 ultra and at least on par with p40 pro IMO wrt to camera.
Dpk1 said:
I think the price for 8 pro 12/256 GB will be around 70k. Well, we will know in a few days. For the first time, I am genuinely interested in a oneplus device (have been using Samsung Galaxy for years). Thanks to Samsung going nuts with S20 series, I might actually end up buying the top spec 8 pro! Just waiting for an in depth camera review before jumping in though. I'm totally in, if the camera results are comparable to find X2 pro, which is better than s20 ultra and at least on par with p40 pro IMO wrt to camera.
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......The camera setup is very good, requires precision in the software part it seems that OP will do like last year I believe.
In comparison to the X2 Pro, the zoom will not be on par as the 8 Pro lacks the 5x periscope.
Virgo_Guy said:
......The camera setup is very good, requires precision in the software part it seems that OP will do like last year I believe.
In comparison to the X2 Pro, the zoom will not be on par as the 8 Pro lacks the 5x periscope.
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I know. I won't miss the 5x periscope zoom though, as much as the lack of a 512 GB version (since my current phone is 512 GB S10+ exynos)! Inclusion of both above options would have made the 8 pro perfect IMO.
Looking at aggressive price in China and OnePlus India's tweet, it's probably safe to expect reasonably fair pricing in India as well.
India prices revealed
128gb = 55k
256gb= 60k
Excellent pricing
Dpk1 said:
I know. I won't miss the 5x periscope zoom though, as much as the lack of a 512 GB version (since my current phone is 512 GB S10+ exynos)! Inclusion of both above options would have made the 8 pro perfect IMO.
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I don't need that much storage in a phone, but I can completely understand many actually need it.
On the other hand, so far I've not been that happy with the cameras from a few aspects, especially looking at the chart toppers!
kumar abhishek said:
India prices revealed
128gb = 55k
256gb= 60k
Excellent pricing
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Finely priced, this lower than Chinese pricing might be due to the fact that consumers will get their units pretty "late" this time around unlike all these years in their extremely important market..
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I don't need that much storage in a phone, but I can completely understand many actually need it.
On the other hand, so far I've not been that happy with the cameras from a few aspects, especially looking at the chart toppers!
Finely priced, this lower than Chinese pricing might be due to the fact that consumers will get their units pretty "late" this time around unlike all these years in their extremely important market..
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The pricing is very good indeed! The camera hardware (especially main and ultra wide) on the OP 8 pro is promising/flagship grade. I'm sure any existing issues/niggles can be fixed with future updates (white balance, night mode etc.) and apparently one plus is already on it as per this YouTube reviewer.
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The pricing is very good indeed! The camera hardware (especially main and ultra wide) on the OP 8 pro is promising/flagship grade. I'm sure any existing issues/niggles can be fixed with future updates (white balance, night mode etc.) and apparently one plus is already on it as per this YouTube reviewer.
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Existing niggles will be minimised through software, just like how OP did with 7Pro, not doubting on it.
However, my dis-satisfaction is based on lack of hardware elements upon which software can't do much :
- It doesn't have the Oppo Find X2/X2 Pro's faster f/1.7 aperture in the main cam.
- Front camera isn't as wide as the galaxies or a few others. Also, it has a smaller aperture in comparison to last year's OP7Pro.(f/2.5 vs f/2.0).
- The 5 MP "color filter camera" exists just for the namesake of "quad camera setup", it does depth sensing(?), but not a ToF one . To my eyes, it's for decoration, rather than any real benefit.
- Lack of periscope setup means lack of details on zoomed distant objects. Price is now in flagship territory in several regions.
Agree. I have a P30 pro and am looking to change my phone, was thinking of Oneplus 8 pro, but then it will be a downgrade in terms of camera, battery life, battery charging speed etc.
Anyone have any good suggestions which phone should i buy? (no xiaomi, vivo, oppo, mi)..
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Agree. I have a P30 pro and am looking to change my phone, was thinking of Oneplus 8 pro, but then it will be a downgrade in terms of camera, battery life, battery charging speed etc.
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In the camera section, mainly keeping the zooming and low light performances aside, the 8 pro's overall cam performances (with consecutive updates) wouldn't be at all, an inferior one to the P30 Pro I would say.
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Anyone have any good suggestions which phone should i buy? (no xiaomi, vivo, oppo, mi)..
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It's easy to suggest OP8Pro as it checks the most, right number of boxes amongst the rest available in the Android side at present..
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Existing niggles will be minimised through software, just like how OP did with 7Pro, not doubting on it.
However, my dis-satisfaction is based on lack of hardware elements upon which software can't do much :
- It doesn't have the Oppo Find X2/X2 Pro's faster f/1.7 aperture in the main cam.
- Front camera isn't as wide as the galaxies or a few others. Also, it has a smaller aperture in comparison to last year's OP7Pro.(f/2.5 vs f/2.0).
- The 5 MP "color filter camera" exists just for the namesake of "quad camera setup", it does depth sensing(?), but not a ToF one . To my eyes, it's for decoration, rather than any real benefit.
- Lack of periscope setup means lack of details on zoomed distant objects. Price is now in flagship territory in several regions.
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Yeah, let's wait for the detailed reviews to see the difference in camera quality between oppo and OP, although I think it will be similar for the main and ultra wide and front camera. Long range Zoom however shall be better in the oppo due to periscope 5x optical, but 2-3x will be better on the OP due to native 2-3x optical.
I agree, they should have given a periscope 5x or some useful camera/lens instead of that 5mp colour filter camera! I don't know how useful the TOF sensor is on other flagships, nevertheless it would have made more sense than the color filter imo.
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