Bands. If i buy directly from Google in USA, will i be able to use 4g in Europe? - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

Just checked this droid life article about Pixel/XL bands http://www.droid-life.com/2016/10/04/google-pixel-and-pixel-xl-supported-networks-lte-bands/ , and according to it, i'll be able to use 4g in Europe(my carrier use 800MHz (Band 20)) on a unit bought from Google in USA. I know that Nexus 6p had usa and internation variants, i hope they won't do the same with Pixel/xl.

It looks like there are international and US variants for the Pixel as well
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_leaks_new_chipset_revision_android_71_us_version-news-20571.php

jj14 said:
It looks like there are international and US variants for the Pixel as well
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_leaks_new_chipset_revision_android_71_us_version-news-20571.php
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Looks like list with cdma(usa verizon/sprint) still supports band20 ^^
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Buying GN from US and use it in Australia

I was just wandering that since Australian market hasn't been hit with 32gb models, I could possibly order one of the verizon devices from the US.
The particular one I am looking at is on the ebay here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GALAXY-NEXUS-4G-VERIZON-LTE-GOOGLE-ANDROID-SAMSUNG-32GB-/300654421553
Are there any potential issues that I should be aware of, when using this device in Australia?
sadikhov77 said:
I was just wandering that since Australian market hasn't been hit with 32gb models, I could possibly order one of the verizon devices from the US.
The particular one I am looking at is on the ebay here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GALAXY-NEXUS-4G-VERIZON-LTE-GOOGLE-ANDROID-SAMSUNG-32GB-/300654421553
Are there any potential issues that I should be aware of, when using this device in Australia?
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Does Australia have lte networks?
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Herman76 said:
Does Australia have lte networks?
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LTE? Is it 4g? Only one provider has 4g network so far. The one I am on now, doesn't support it yet from what i know.
for that price ill sell ya mine..lol...ill wait for another better phone this year from Verizon..lol
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LTE is what they call 4G now, but it really isn't. A LTE phone will only work on a LTE network (correct me if I'm wrong, since I only have GSM version).
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The device is locked to Verizon so don't buy it. You want a GSM handset
what confuses me is that they send it worldwide and it says to support GSM
Also, if it is locked, wouldn't it be possible to unlock it just by loading one of a custom rom from this forum?
wish777 said:
for that price ill sell ya mine..lol...ill wait for another better phone this year from Verizon..lol
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Australian residents only get priority over others in the world when it comes to getting ripped off. See what it costs in local stores:
http://www.mobicity.com.au/samsung-google-galaxy-nexus-32gb.html#.TyqMXfnmdpg
It won't work at all in here. All the Australian carriers have GSM networks while the one you linked to is a CDMA phone.
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The specs shown in the OP link looks like it's Galaxy Nexus in general (not just the LTE version). The LTE network is not operational in Norway (do correct me if im wrong), and since it wasn't operational at launch time of the Nexus they decided not to import the LTE version to Norway.
I can't understand they would do that unless the LTE version won't work on regular GSM networks.
This link says that it is NOT a GSM device, and will not work worldwide.
sadikhov77 said:
what confuses me is that they send it worldwide and it says to support GSM
Also, if it is locked, wouldn't it be possible to unlock it just by loading one of a custom rom from this forum?
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It also uses MicroSIM (ala-iPhone) - it's just not worth the hassle. Get a GSM Nexus if you want one
Herman76 said:
The specs shown in the OP link looks like it's Galaxy Nexus in general (not just the LTE version). The LTE network is not operational in Norway (do correct me if im wrong), and since it wasn't operational at launch time of the Nexus they decided not to import the LTE version to Norway.
I can't understand they would do that unless the LTE version won't work on regular GSM networks.
This link says that it is NOT a GSM device, and will not work worldwide.
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Yeah... the title says 4G LTE Verizon, but all the specs are for the i9250. I'd get 100% confirmation from the seller first because OP needs the GSM i9250 version, not i515.
Herman76 said:
I can't understand they would do that unless the LTE version won't work on regular GSM networks.
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You could use the LTE Nexus as LTE-only on a carrier with GSM and LTE. However, the Nexus only supports LTE Band 13, which means your carrier would also have to be using Band 13. So far, Verizon is the only carrier on earth that uses Band 13.
Making it more complicated, your carrier would have to have implemented Voice over LTE and IMS SMS otherwise your phone would be data only and unable to receive calls/text messages.
sadikhov77 said:
I was just wandering that since Australian market hasn't been hit with 32gb models, I could possibly order one of the verizon devices from the US.
The particular one I am looking at is on the ebay here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GALAXY-NEXUS-4G-VERIZON-LTE-GOOGLE-ANDROID-SAMSUNG-32GB-/300654421553
Are there any potential issues that I should be aware of, when using this device in Australia?
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Get it from hand tech
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.ph...gb-i9250--sim-free-unlocked--titanium-silver-
This is the one you are looking for. Price would be excluding VAT since you're shipping it internationally.
elevation_2 said:
Get it from hand tech
This is the one you are looking for. Price would be excluding VAT since you're shipping it internationally.
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Thanks, but this is 16gb version, I can get that in AU for a bit cheaper price. 32Gb GSM is way more expensive here than in the US.
Do not get the verizon 32gb version as it will NOT work anywhere in australia. It is a cdma and lte phone, not gsm.
If you want the 32GB GSM version then you first have to wait for it to be released
March 1st apparently
sadikhov77 said:
Thanks, but this is 16gb version, I can get that in AU for a bit cheaper price. 32Gb GSM is way more expensive here than in the US.
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The 32gb GSM version isn't for sale yet.
The 32gb version in the US is the Verizon one.

Q on LTE Bands of VZW G4

Has anyone tested out an AT&T SIM card in a Verizon variant of the G4? I'd really like an android phone that has LTE bands for both AT&T/VZW to swap back and forth with my iPhone. The VZW Nexus 6 worked great, but it was just too clunky for me.
Thanks in advance for the help!
AT&T uses two main bands for LTE, bands 5 and 17. They also use bands 2/4/29/30 depending on the market.
The Verizon G4 supports these bands according to Verizon: 2/4/13, and these bands according to other research I found online: 2/4/5/7/13.
If that's true, it sounds like you should be able to get some LTE in most markets, but you would be limited as the only bands you could get LTE on would be 2/4/5.
Thanks for your help!
geoff5093 said:
AT&T uses two main bands for LTE, bands 5 and 17. They also use bands 2/4/29/30 depending on the market.
The Verizon G4 supports these bands according to Verizon: 2/4/13, and these bands according to other research I found online: 2/4/5/7/13.
If that's true, it sounds like you should be able to get some LTE in most markets, but you would be limited as the only bands you could get LTE on would be 2/4/5.
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Do you know where 2/4/5/7/13 are confirmed online? I really wish LG would give us more lte bands like the S6 and iphone 6 do so that I can use it between the US and Europe.
nacymex said:
Do you know where 2/4/5/7/13 are confirmed online? I really wish LG would give us more lte bands like the S6 and iphone 6 do so that I can use it between the US and Europe.
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I only saw it on some spec listings, I'm not sure where you can confirm it.
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[Q]Int'l G4 on AT&T LTE

I am new in the United States and looking to buy an international variant of the G4 (for better dev support and less bloatware, plus there is no gold option for AT&T). I was wondering if LTE Bands for AT&T is present in the int'l version of the G4.
SCPadgeebar said:
I am new in the United States and looking to buy an international variant of the G4 (for better dev support and less bloatware, plus there is no gold option for AT&T). I was wondering if LTE Bands for AT&T is present in the int'l version of the G4.
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Yes. I am using the international 815 on ATT and I get LTE everywhere i did before with my nexus 5.
frigidazzi said:
Yes. I am using the international 815 on ATT and I get LTE everywhere i did before with my nexus 5.
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Good to know that I won't be stuck with HSPA+. Thanks!

Pixel LTE bands - North America and Rest of the world

Hi there,
Looking at Google Pixels page one can see that there is two versions of the product: NA and RoW.
Question is: is there any chance of buying a RoW version in US? Has anyone ever managed to buy the past Nexus International Versions in US before?
Thanks all and regards
Took me a few seconds to figure out what RoW means. I'd like to know this too.
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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mazroui said:
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.
Abra_Cadabra said:
Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.
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To my understanding of supported LTE, UMTS, and GSM frequencies both Pixel Variants will work in UAE but Carrier Aggregation will probably not work. Not sure if the operators in the UAE support CA (yet) but if/ when they do this will probably something that wouldn't work on the NA variant. The only combination supported by the device for UAE bands is B7+B7, which may or may not work.
Whether this is a deal breaker or not is up to you to decide.
Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
mazroui said:
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
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pauleandro said:
Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
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Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).
mazroui said:
Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).
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Of course, no problem. I'll let you know if I find anything.
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I am also looking at this and cannot understand the CA limitations on the US device. Unless I am mistaken the Snapdragon X12 modem supports all combinations of supported frequencies. Yet the phones have different combinations for some reason. I do not know if Google is limiting this via software. Any thoughts?
scandalousk said:
Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?
Lots of overlap
There appears to be quite significant overlap, with the NA version supporting all or almost all LTE bands in most European countries and in many non-European countries as well (including all LTE bands in UAE):
NA version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/GPQkJ/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-td-lte-na-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
RoW version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/vWPw8/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-global-td-lte-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
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Hmm... just noticed that a few European countries that FrequencyCheck lists the NA version as having only partial LTE coverage for are because the site considers the NA version not to support band 8. But, according to Google's own spec page (madeby.google.com/phone/specs/ > Telephony), both the NA and RoW versions support B8. No idea if FrequencyCheck is a generally reliable source of info, as I just discovered the site a few minutes ago. I hope Google's listing for their own phone is correct, but the fact that B8 isn't included anywhere in the LTE 2xCA and 3xCA breakdowns for the NA version as it is for the RoW version makes me wonder...
scandalousk said:
Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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sirda said:
How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?
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Yes, the main European LTE bands are 3, 7 and 20, so it doesn't matter which version you have as both support all these bands. scandalousk is wrong.
Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)
scandalousk said:
Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)
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It'll support LTE, but won't support LTE Carrier Aggregation. LTE-Advanced is more than just Carrier Aggregation.

Carrier aggregation/LTE-A CAT11 Verizon model in EU

Heya,
Anyone here achieved CA with a Verizon model in Europe?
While the bands are all supported, I have a feeling the US version of the phone has a hard time knowing which bands to aggregate in Europe. What are your experiences running the Verizon version on LTE-A?
I have a Google version (not international, not Verizon) and Verizon service. I was told by Verizon I would only get 3g speeds in Europe but that my wife's Verizon S7 would get 4g. Not sure if that helps you any, we have a European trip planned for later and I was asking Verizon rep, that's how I know. I was a little confused since my understanding was that the Pixel XL was able to get all the bands which is why I could take it to any carrier.
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ahent said:
I have a Google version (not international, not Verizon) and Verizon service. I was told by Verizon I would only get 3g speeds in Europe but that my wife's Verizon S7 would get 4g. Not sure if that helps you any, we have a European trip planned for later and I was asking Verizon rep, that's how I know. I was a little confused since my understanding was that the Pixel XL was able to get all the bands which is why I could take it to any carrier.
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It should support B3, B7 and B20 which are used in Europe. As of that LTE will work as expected but the LTE-A band combinations differ and as of that CA may not trigger in europe (thats my theory.). I've been trying to modify some files to get a control over the band combinations, but I've only managed to enable 256QAM at the current moment.
tauio111 said:
but I've only managed to enable 256QAM at the current moment.
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How?
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mr-tical said:
How?
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256QAM is only supported on the Australian Telstra config.
/firmware/radio/modem_pr/mcfg/configs/mcfg_sw/generic/aus/telstra/volte/mcfg_sw.mbn used to replace other mcfg_sw.mbn's that you phone uses in the /firmware/radio/modem_pr/mcfg/configs/mcfg_sw/generic/ directory.

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