Next phone?? - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey XDA Members!!
My phone has been dying on me a lot lately and it seems its finally time to switch to a new one that will be a true upgrade over the beloved M8.
And I need your help to decide on one..
I Consider these aspects when buying a new phone:
* should be less than 35k..
* should have good amount of custom development support from XDA community in terms of ROM, etc.. (Priority)
* general things like performance > battery > camera (in the order listed)
My first choice is OP 3. Your choices now..
Thankx a lot guys.. ??

HTC 10 is the most logical choice
I had the m7 m8 and m9 and actually went to the Note 5 and have no regrets
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Yes, HTC 10 would be the best choice.
I also thought about LG V10 - it seems pretty good overall, especially it;s DAC, but the not unlockable bootloader, lack of development and the not-so-good Snapdragon 808 are doing a good job destroying my interest in this phone.
There's also ZTE Axon 7. It's specs look very nice and it has stereo speakers, but apparently it has some issues with signal strength and other things.

Saleen28 said:
Yes, HTC 10 would be the best choice.
I also thought about LG V10 - it seems pretty good overall, especially it;s DAC, but the not unlockable bootloader, lack of development and the not-so-good Snapdragon 808 are doing a good job destroying my interest in this phone.
There's also ZTE Axon 7. It's specs look very nice and it has stereo speakers, but apparently it has some issues with signal strength and other things.
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HTC 10 too seems to have a lot of issues related to WiFi from what I've read in its respective forum and while few solutions are out that reduce it to an extent, it requires Stock ROM thereby hindering the use of custom ROMs..

Mayank7795 said:
HTC 10 too seems to have a lot of issues related to WiFi from what I've read in its respective forum and while few solutions are out that reduce it to an extent, it requires Stock ROM thereby hindering the use of custom ROMs..
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No, that's not accurate at all. LOL
I've been running a custom ROM since I first got the 10 when it was released. It was rooted and S-Off, with a custom ROM (and recovery, obviously) an hour after it was delivered. I have never had any issues with wifi.
It is BY FAR the best device I have ever owned.
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@Mayank7795
Get the HTC 10. You will definitely not regret it!

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[Q] Planning on buying an HTC One, is there anything I gotta know before getting it?

Hello!
I will probably get a One in a few weeks but I was wondering, is there anything I should know about this phone before buying it? Like "sub-models" to avoid (as Samsung's i9100G, a modified Galaxy S2 with a different CPU, disguised as a normal one)?
Are you satisfied with your HTC One? Should I get another phone or is this one great?
Thanks for answering!
Drav' said:
Hello!
I will probably get a One in a few weeks but I was wondering, is there anything I should know about this phone before buying it? Like "sub-models" to avoid (as Samsung's i9100G, a modified Galaxy S2 with a different CPU, disguised as a normal one)?
Are you satisfied with your HTC One? Should I get another phone or is this one great?
Thanks for answering!
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Best phone available IMHO and I have had them all
This is the only Android phone with the build quality of an iPhone. I couldn't be happier with mine. No sub-models to worry about either, although the MAXX is coming soon if you feel like carrying around a phablet all the time.
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Also, I would recommend getting one ASAP in case they patch the s-off method with the 4.3 update.
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Drav' said:
Hello!
I will probably get a One in a few weeks but I was wondering, is there anything I should know about this phone before buying it? Like "sub-models" to avoid (as Samsung's i9100G, a modified Galaxy S2 with a different CPU, disguised as a normal one)?
Are you satisfied with your HTC One? Should I get another phone or is this one great?
Thanks for answering!
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if at first you're worried about battery life. do not despair. it gets much better
In no particular order:
- Non replaceable batter and no SD card. Cost for a very good looking device
- Battery can last a day of normal use but you have to be careful and monitor your app usage.
- Unlockable by Rumrunner.
- Nice selection of AOSP roms, but some have issues depending on your usage.
- If you do go the flashing route and pick a AOSP rom make sure to turn on your GPS, open maps and get a lock before rebooting into the recovery. This will make sure you do not have any gps issues after the flash.
- Sounds is very nice when playing audio via the speakers.
- Camera performance is a mixed bag depending on your usage. I find it works great for quick snapshots in low light...where I am most of the time I need to capture a picture.
- Speaking of Camera, if you can check the camera at the store before taking home. Open the app and cover the lens. If it shows purple or red ask for another unit. This appears to be a build quality issue that may be fixable via software. Sprint reports very mixed results from the fix so double check before getting one.
- Verizon has an update to 4.2. We expect a 4.3 update by the end of the month...not sure what month but the end of some month .
With all that being said I love this phone and would not trade it for anything. I thought I was going to miss my hardware keyboard but so far I have only had a couple of times that it would have been nice.
calash said:
In no particular order:
- Non replaceable batter and no SD card. Cost for a very good looking device
- Battery can last a day of normal use but you have to be careful and monitor your app usage.
- Unlockable by Rumrunner.
- Nice selection of AOSP roms, but some have issues depending on your usage.
- If you do go the flashing route and pick a AOSP rom make sure to turn on your GPS, open maps and get a lock before rebooting into the recovery. This will make sure you do not have any gps issues after the flash.
- Sounds is very nice when playing audio via the speakers.
- Camera performance is a mixed bag depending on your usage. I find it works great for quick snapshots in low light...where I am most of the time I need to capture a picture.
- Speaking of Camera, if you can check the camera at the store before taking home. Open the app and cover the lens. If it shows purple or red ask for another unit. This appears to be a build quality issue that may be fixable via software. Sprint reports very mixed results from the fix so double check before getting one.
- Verizon has an update to 4.2. We expect a 4.3 update by the end of the month...not sure what month but the end of some month .
With all that being said I love this phone and would not trade it for anything. I thought I was going to miss my hardware keyboard but so far I have only had a couple of times that it would have been nice.
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I think Verizon is taking a long time to update to 4.3 because they want to patch Rumrunner. Wouldn't be surprised if this is the case.
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We will just unpatch it again.
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Only caveat I'd say is we're missing that low power proc that's going to be all the rage in future iterations of Android (the always-on voice commands of the Moto X). If you're alright with that, it's a fine phone.
Oh, and it's missing a softkey. I've gone ahead and rooted my phone, but I have to say, I've felt very little desire to flash a new ROM (which I was doing all the time on my old HTC Droid Incredible). This phone is surprisingly satisfying as is.
Drav' said:
Hello!
I will probably get a One in a few weeks but I was wondering, is there anything I should know about this phone before buying it? Like "sub-models" to avoid (as Samsung's i9100G, a modified Galaxy S2 with a different CPU, disguised as a normal one)?
Are you satisfied with your HTC One? Should I get another phone or is this one great?
Thanks for answering!
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I haven't seen a sub model except for the HTC One Mini. I know the One Mini lost some features since it is the smaller version of the HTC one. But one thing is that Sprint's(and I think T-Mobile's) HTC one has FM radio and Verizon/AT&T disabled/removed the fm radio functionality in theirs.
Other than the FM radio, I think everything else is just if you want GSM or CDMA.
There's also a Google Play Edition coming out for the HTC one, but you can root the HTC one now and install a GPE rom.
But I feel 100% that I made the correct choice of choosing between the S4 and the ONE. S4's user interface was too cluttered. HTC one's Sense interface is much smoother and simple. Music is great with the stereo speakers and watching movies/play games is also fun.
Check out your BB store and there might still be one on display that functions. Test it out. I spent 30 mins at BB messing around with it.
shadokreeper said:
I haven't seen a sub model except for the HTC One Mini. I know the One Mini lost some features since it is the smaller version of the HTC one. But one thing is that Sprint's(and I think T-Mobile's) HTC one has FM radio and Verizon/AT&T disabled/removed the fm radio functionality in theirs.
Other than the FM radio, I think everything else is just if you want GSM or CDMA.
There's also a Google Play Edition coming out for the HTC one, but you can root the HTC one now and install a GPE rom.
But I feel 100% that I made the correct choice of choosing between the S4 and the ONE. S4's user interface was too cluttered. HTC one's Sense interface is much smoother and simple. Music is great with the stereo speakers and watching movies/play games is also fun.
Check out your BB store and there might still be one on display that functions. Test it out. I spent 30 mins at BB messing around with it.
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A GPE Rom for Verizon from HTC?
You have nothing to worry about if you are purchasing a HTC One, these are absolutely fantastic phones. The only downside to these phones is that they do not have a sd card or removable battery but apart from that I have not had any complaints about the phone. One of the best things about this phone is the build quality, I really do like that the phones are made from a single block of anodized aluminum, in my personal opinion I think the build quality is superior to the iPhone.
HTC Sense is also another reason to go with the HTC One over the S4. While both Touchwiz and Sense have their pros and cons, touchwiz is all about cramming as many features and settings and options into the phone as it possibly can, HTC Sense on the other hand is focused on the user experience and creating a more intuitive UI.
Another benefit to this phone is that development is moving forward rather nicely, granted things could always be better and the Verizon HTC One is by no means one of the leading phones for developers that does not mean we are without fun things to flash, I for one have thoroughly enjoyed my HTC One and I have no doubt in my mind that I will continue to enjoy this phone for years to come, it is that awesome. The Verizon HTC One has only been out for a little over 2 months and we already have 2 different s-off methods and multiple Sense, AOSP and GPE Roms for users to choose from, not to mention it appears that Team Venom will be making an appearance in our development section in the near future. I have not personally used a Venom rom but from what I have heard their roms are in the same league as the CyanogenMod roms, a lot of people here are anxiously awaiting the Venom rom release.
Here is a link to the thread talking about the Venom Rom for the Verizon HTC One - Venom ROM for Verizon variant? -
Another benefit of the HTC One is the Dropbox promotion, you get 23 gigs of space for 2 years. In order to get the promotion to work you need to install Newt's NOS rom and follow the instructions in my post - Dropbox 23GB Promotion - Workaround
One of the few complaints I do have is that the kernel source has not been released yet for the Verizon HTC One, there is no doubt that this will eventually be released but when that will happen is anyone guess, it could happen next week or after Christmas.
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rddev13 said:
A GPE Rom for Verizon from HTC?
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I do not know if we are getting a Verizon GPE HTC One, however we do have these two roms in the dev section - NOS 1.0.2 m7wlv Google Play Edition - and - Eclipse One Google Play Edition
Thanks a lot for answering my questions guys! Btw I just saw that I posted this in the wrong forum, didn't notice this was for the Verizon one . I think I'll eventually buy this phone, sounds like the best Android one out there as you said.

[Q]Selling M8 for G3

Hello Guys , i am selling my HTC ONE M8 for G3 32 GB , D855 , Please suggest me is that worth of buying ?
Ps i don't have any complaint with M8 , it is very smooth device
Thanks
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So sorry mistakenly posted it in wrong thread , if any Mod online , i request him to move it to Question section
Regards
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newstar said:
Hello Guys , i am selling my HTC ONE M8 for G3 32 GB , D855 , Please suggest me is that worth of buying ?
Ps i don't have any complaint with M8 , it is very smooth device
Thanks
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Quite a few have asked this on here lately...
Basically, if I were in your shoes I'd just go for it and get the G3! The phone is just awesome.
Development is not really happening just yet due to the locked bootloader on mostly all variants except TMobile. Our kicka$$ devs have eluded to the fact that they WILL be able to unlock or exploit the bootloader, it's just a matter of time.
I came from an S4 that had a very active Dev scene with many Roms and a few custom kernels to choose from, and even though currently I don't have those things with the G3..... I'm still super happy with this phone.
- Tapatalked from the G3
Same here... If I were you, I would go for it...
My choices before buying this phone were Z2, M8, and Find7... but G3 came out and that's it... =)
newstar said:
Hello Guys , i am selling my HTC ONE M8 for G3 32 GB , D855 , Please suggest me is that worth of buying ?
Ps i don't have any complaint with M8 , it is very smooth device
Thanks
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Why are you getting rid of the M8? How's the battery life?
The only thing I think that would be better is the G3 with Cat 6 And the Snap 805 lol no idea if Verizon will offer that though
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I swapped my M8 for the G3 and I have not looked back, dont worry; they are both great phones. Just felt the need to move on
I made that switch and bought a G3 as my daily user. However, I actually think the M8 is an "overall" better phone. I got the G3 because I do take quite a lot of photos when I travel and the resolution just isn't good enough...the quality of the photos of the M8 are decent but the G3 is definitely better in good light. If photo quality and size isn't that important to you, I personally would NOT make the change. Even though I have the 805 chip Korean variant of the G3, I can say 100% the M8 is smoother and quicker in every aspect. The G3 is no slouch, but the M8 is awesome...smoothest Android phone out there in my opinion.
I'm not saying the G3 is a bad phone...I love it and I'm using it over my M8, but the only reason is because of the camera. just make sure there's a good reason for you to want to change. Good luck on your decision and let us know if you do switch what you think of the G3!
T3hBraveBoss said:
I swapped my M8 for the G3 and I have not looked back, dont worry; they are both great phones. Just felt the need to move on
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Same as me.
Having had both, I'd much prefer the G3 over the M8 for screen size and camera quality as those are important to me - but you should know that you'll have to put up with a slight compromise in terms of performance/smoothness and battery life.
That's what my experience has been, anyway. YMMV.
qbanlinxx said:
Why are you getting rid of the M8? How's the battery life?
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Its best phone i ever use , reason best battery , best development , even stock GPE we can flash or sence , just wana try G3 that's why i start this topic
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radicalisto said:
Same as me.
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Yeah i saw u much active in m8 forums , how's ur experience radi
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Honestly i just switched from the M8 to the G3 and i see no downfalls what so ever. Im in love with this thing. The camera is awesome, the screen is amazing, and its just an all around better phone to me.
newstar said:
Yeah i saw u much active in m8 forums , how's ur experience radi
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I certainly liked the M8, very much so in fact. But I loved the look of the G3 and the screen. Used both over a couple of weeks and decided to stick with the G3.
I think it all came down to the look and feel of the device. The M8 is beautiful, quality built and has all the features.. I just felt it was maybe missing something. So jumped to the G3
Like a few others on here, I have both phones. I love the M8. It's the most fluid phone I've ever experienced, and there are so many modification options out there. The G3 is laggy, and doesn't seem like much progress has been made with the developer community so far. All that being said, I can't bring myself to stop using my G3. If anything, try it out for a week and see how you like it.
I have both G3 & M8, they are both great phones & both have the + & - points.
You'll be happy whichever you choose.
Biggest +'s for each phone for me -
M8 - Speakers, they are very good.
G3 - Wireless Charging, Oh how pleasant it is to wireless charge. No faffing about with cables :good::good::good:
Enjoy whichever you use
You guys with both an M8 an G3 which do you like better.... Sense or LG's somewhat close to stock Android??
Coming from Sammy and Moto phones they're both pretty cool IMO. My girls One Max is very cool and after playing with that I'm sure having an HTC phone as a DD wouldn't be bad at all...
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M8 far from smoothest phone sorry
i did the same move. the m8 was the smoothest phone i ever had but the lack of screen for such a big phone was such a waste to me. both phones are awesome though. honestly if the m8 had a back speaker with a bigger screen it would have been a perfect phone for me.5.5 inch screen is perfect
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speaker wise once you root the g3 and but viper on it the sound is surprisingly very loud and clear
shawnten said:
i did the same move. the m8 was the smoothest phone i ever had but the lack of screen for such a big phone was such a waste to me. both phones are awesome though. honestly if the m8 had a back speaker with a bigger screen it would have been a perfect phone for me.5.5 inch screen is perfect
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speaker wise once you root the g3 and but viper on it the sound is surprisingly very loud and clear
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Mind sharing your viper settings?

Is the M8 still worth it ?

Hey,
I have been struggling for a few months trying to pick my next phone, I've been using an ancient GS2 for at least 3 years now...
I was gonna go with the 6P but the SD810 is worrying me... And the M9 has that thing as well...
The M8 looks like a good choice.. I just have a few questions :
1- How is the dev community ?
- I usually stick with phones for at least 2 years, and I always like running the latest version of Android...
2- are AOSP ROMs stable ?
Coming from an Exynos device, it had countless issues with AOSP roms,... Lot's of stuff didn't work properly on AOSP.. Is it the same case here or everything is stable enough...
3- Is there any known hardware defective that are known about the phone.. Just to be careful when purchasing
4- How is the battery ? SOT ?
And finally, do you recommend to buy it, or there's better choices out there ?
Cheers..
biascoblix said:
Hey,
I have been struggling for a few months trying to pick my next phone, I've been using an ancient GS2 for at least 3 years now...
I was gonna go with the 6P but the SD810 is worrying me... And the M9 has that thing as well...
The M8 looks like a good choice.. I just have a few questions :
1- How is the dev community ?
- I usually stick with phones for at least 2 years, and I always like running the latest version of Android...
2- are AOSP ROMs stable ?
Coming from an Exynos device, it had countless issues with AOSP roms,... Lot's of stuff didn't work properly on AOSP.. Is it the same case here or everything is stable enough...
3- Is there any known hardware defective that are known about the phone.. Just to be careful when purchasing
4- How is the battery ? SOT ?
And finally, do you recommend to buy it, or there's better choices out there ?
Cheers..
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1. Great dev community(much options), about official software updates, 2 yrs of htc's commitment is ending in March 2016.
2. Most are stable, some MM are stil WIP
3. No hardware issues(like it was on One m7 with camera)
4. Depends on kernel and rom(with doze, battery drain is like 1-3% per night) i get ussualy 5hrs of sot, with tweaks and low brighteness i can get ~7hrs of sot
If you can find some good deal, go for it, great build/sound and fast UI. Camera is meh, but with proper angle and close shots, it's good enough.
Imotep95 said:
1. Great dev community(much options), about official software updates, 2 yrs of htc's commitment is ending in March 2016.
2. Most are stable, some MM are stil WIP
3. No hardware issues(like it was on One m7 with camera)
4. Depends on kernel and rom(with doze, battery drain is like 1-3% per night) i get ussualy 5hrs of sot, with tweaks and low brighteness i can get ~7hrs of sot
If you can find some good deal, go for it, great build/sound and fast UI. Camera is meh, but with proper angle and close shots, it's good enough.
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I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
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Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
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and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?
Its still worth it and the device has a official gpe (Google play edition) rom.
biascoblix said:
I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
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Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
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and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?
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Oh, there are plenty units out there...USA carriers,DEV Edition, ASIA WWE, WWE international... try to get wwe(unlocked version), btw you can do S-OFF($25) and RUU to whatever you want.
Just a quick viewpoint from me. I hate my M8. For the first 6 months it was great, then I had the camera lens issue (which was easily rectified with metal Polish but shouldn't have been a problem in the first place). Then my vibrate motor packed in. Then it came back to life a couple of weeks later but it folded again and has been dead for the past 4 months. I get random freezes on various roms and the battery gets so hot I can't hold my phone sometimes. Maybe I got a lemon (my wife got an M8 the same time as me, also had the camera lens issue bit nothing else) but it's really hurt my confidence in HTC. I've had HTC handsets almost exclusively for the past 11 years, and given how weak I view the A9 (or X9) I will be abandoning HTC thanks to how poor the M8 has been for me.
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Imotep95 said:
Oh, there are plenty units out there...USA carriers,DEV Edition, ASIA WWE, WWE international... try to get wwe(unlocked version), btw you can do S-OFF($25) and RUU to whatever you want.
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Yea, the one am getting is probably the unlocked international...
I'm new to HTC phones here, what exactly is S-OFF and RUU ?! ?
biascoblix said:
Yea, the one am getting is probably the unlocked international...
I'm new to HTC phones here, what exactly is S-OFF and RUU ?! ?
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S-off is like 100% unlock, you can flash firmwares, sound mods(with adsp) etc, RUU: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656721
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dazultra2000 said:
Just a quick viewpoint from me. I hate my M8. For the first 6 months it was great, then I had the camera lens issue (which was easily rectified with metal Polish but shouldn't have been a problem in the first place). Then my vibrate motor packed in. Then it came back to life a couple of weeks later but it folded again and has been dead for the past 4 months. I get random freezes on various roms and the battery gets so hot I can't hold my phone sometimes. Maybe I got a lemon (my wife got an M8 the same time as me, also had the camera lens issue bit nothing else) but it's really hurt my confidence in HTC. I've had HTC handsets almost exclusively for the past 11 years, and given how weak I view the A9 (or X9) I will be abandoning HTC thanks to how poor the M8 has been for me.
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Hmm, Interesting.... Yea, HTC currently is in a really bad position, the A9 & X9 are certainly a joke... But I can't really find a good phone with an active dev community with the same price range...
Imotep95 said:
S-off is like 100% unlock, you can flash firmwares, sound mods(with adsp) etc, RUU: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656721
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How do I know if it's S-off or not ?
and if the one i got was "S-on", Is it "S-off"able ?
biascoblix said:
How do I know if it's S-off or not ?
and if the one i got was "S-on", Is it "S-off"able ?
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Sure, its s off-able
S-On(security on), S-OFF(seurity off)
Yes, if its new, its S-ON, only dev edition comes with S-Off.
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Imotep95 said:
Sure, its s off-able
S-On(security on), S-OFF(seurity off)
Yes, if its new, its S-ON, only dev edition comes with S-Off.
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Okay, Thanks very much for your help...
I'll give myself a few days of more research.. but I'm probably going to get it... can't really find another alternative for the same price with an active dev community ..
Thanks again,
Cheers..
and oh, MERRY CHRISTMAS...
biascoblix said:
Hmm, Interesting.... Yea, HTC currently is in a really bad position, the A9 & X9 are certainly a joke... But I can't really find a good phone with an active dev community with the same price range...
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Yeah that's the bit that sucks the most, after all its the original HTC built XDA that bought this site to light many years ago. That's why I'm leaning closest to the Nexus 6P at the moment as a possible next phone as it doesn't need too much hacking to be what I want it to be. But I'm not 100% happy with the 6P either, but I don't want to wait another year to see if HTC can pull something decent out of their hat. M8 seriously ruined it for me
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dazultra2000 said:
Yeah that's the bit that sucks the most, after all its the original HTC built XDA that bought this site to light many years ago. That's why I'm leaning closest to the Nexus 6P at the moment as a possible next phone as it doesn't need too much hacking to be what I want it to be. But I'm not 100% happy with the 6P either, but I don't want to wait another year to see if HTC can pull something decent out of their hat. M8 seriously ruined it for me
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I really wanted to get the 6P but here's why I didn't..
1- SD810.... Just NO !!
2- A lot... I meant really A lot of defective units.. especially with the screen.. A lot of units are coming with irregular colored screens...
3- Price... yea, surely it's currently priced at 500$... but i'm afraid to use forwarding service to ship it to my country here coz of the huge amount of defective units.. and local retailers here selling it for 650$.. NO THANKS... and I can see you're from the UK, you're getting ripped off.. it's roughly about 700$ for the 6P in the UK !!
biascoblix said:
I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
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Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
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and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?
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I switched from the HTC One M7 to the M8 - 2 months ago for the same price of 350$. Got it off Ebay. It was an imported T-mobile version from U.S unlocked, so there is no warranty. If you're getting it at the local store with warranty I'd suggest picking it.
Good stuff I've noticed:
The phones battery is a quite a difference from the M7. The battery is slightly larger and the processor is more efficient. 2 months later with Skydragons Sense Rom with Marshmallow, the battery life is still great.
The M7 gave 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours of On screen time (If I was not gaming much) , while this phone goes beyond 3.5 hours. It lasts over a day with moderate use and gaming.
The phone doesn't heat up crazy like the M7 did. Expect it to get warm, it's metal build.
The speakers are much louder than the M7. Along with this factor and the amazing battery life I was convinced that the phone was worth upgrading to.
The camera is decent and rather nice in low light conditions. However if camera is really important to you I'd suggest avoiding this phone.
HTC Sense is way better than stock android. The launcher itself is so handy. Music player is the best I've used, simple and effective.
The phone feels exotic in the hand, super premium.
Sound output without the equalizer(Boomsound) is hands down one of the best you will get.
Huge development community.
Has SD card support which the previous phone didn't have.
Cons:
Boomsound on earphones and headphones is really atrocious. The Beats Audio which was on the M7 was waaaayyy better! If you get this phone, just turn off boomsound on headphones.
The phone is curvy and hence becomes super slippery, just be careful handing the device, it's prone to slipping out of your hand. Worth mentioning this phone is heavy.
Dual Camera at the back is gimmicky.
Some of the OEM's software is poorly implemented and of late HTC has been messing some of them up. Example: Blinkfeed with ads and recommendations, HTC TV and Notes.
Has on screen buttons instead of the HTC M7's capacitve. And on screen buttons are rubbish.
The speaker grilles trap dirt easier than the previous model, you can however use a tooth brush or needle to clean them.
The power button is on top and a pain to reach. Doesn't help that the phone is taller than the M7 .
The top camera in the back can get damaged due to poor protection as compared to the main camera. You can still click photos, but can't use the dual camera effects. Also you will keep getting an error message "Dual camera is blocked..."
Defective Models: Yes there are models which ship with the dual camera damaged. If you get an opportunity to test out the phone first, check the camera. If you get the dual camera is blocked - just request if he can drop the price for you further. You will still be able to use the main camera.
This phone is not perfect and is HTC's Rough Diamond. With the processor, sound quality and dev support, I'd recommend it.
dar87 said:
I switched from the HTC One M7 to the M8 - 2 months ago for the same price of 350$. Got it off Ebay. It was an imported T-mobile version from U.S unlocked, so there is no warranty. If you're getting it at the local store with warranty I'd suggest picking it.
Good stuff I've noticed:
The phones battery is a quite a difference from the M7. The battery is slightly larger and the processor is more efficient. 2 months later with Skydragons Sense Rom with Marshmallow, the battery life is still great.
The M7 gave 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours of On screen time (If I was not gaming much) , while this phone goes beyond 3.5 hours. It lasts over a day with moderate use and gaming.
The phone doesn't heat up crazy like the M7 did. Expect it to get warm, it's metal build.
The speakers are much louder than the M7. Along with this factor and the amazing battery life I was convinced that the phone was worth upgrading to.
The camera is decent and rather nice in low light conditions. However if camera is really important to you I'd suggest avoiding this phone.
HTC Sense is way better than stock android. The launcher itself is so handy. Music player is the best I've used, simple and effective.
The phone feels exotic in the hand, super premium.
Sound output without the equalizer(Boomsound) is hands down one of the best you will get.
Huge development community.
Has SD card support which the previous phone didn't have.
Cons:
Boomsound on earphones and headphones is really atrocious. The Beats Audio which was on the M7 was waaaayyy better! If you get this phone, just turn off boomsound on headphones.
The phone is curvy and hence becomes super slippery, just be careful handing the device, it's prone to slipping out of your hand. Worth mentioning this phone is heavy.
Dual Camera at the back is gimmicky.
Some of the OEM's software is poorly implemented and of late HTC has been messing some of them up. Example: Blinkfeed with ads and recommendations, HTC TV and Notes.
Has on screen buttons instead of the HTC M7's capacitve. And on screen buttons are rubbish.
The speaker grilles trap dirt easier than the previous model, you can however use a tooth brush or needle to clean them.
The power button is on top and a pain to reach. Doesn't help that the phone is taller than the M7 .
The top camera in the back can get damaged due to poor protection as compared to the main camera. You can still click photos, but can't use the dual camera effects. Also you will keep getting an error message "Dual camera is blocked..."
Defective Models: Yes there are models which ship with the dual camera damaged. If you get an opportunity to test out the phone first, check the camera. If you get the dual camera is blocked - just request if he can drop the price for you further. You will still be able to use the main camera.
This phone is not perfect and is HTC's Rough Diamond. With the processor, sound quality and dev support, I'd recommend it.
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Thanks for that detailed comment...
I'm coming from the phone that was barely able to shot decent 720p videos
literally anything would be an upgrade for me... the M8 is great compared to its price...
and the dual camera is a joke, i know that.. I'll probably be running AOSP roms which I don't think utilize it anyway...
biascoblix said:
Thanks for that detailed comment...
I'm coming from the phone that was barely able to shot decent 720p videos
literally anything would be an upgrade for me... the M8 is great compared to its price...
and the dual camera is a joke, i know that.. I'll probably be running AOSP roms which I don't think utilize it anyway...
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You might want to try a GPE Rom like this instead of an AOSP one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706391
dar87 said:
You might want to try a GPE Rom like this instead of an AOSP one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706391
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That looks great... Can't wait to get my hands on the phone... I'm gonna be buying it asap..

Problems solved

I finally jumped ship and bought the
iPhone 6s and never looking back.
Please call me a troll if it makes you happy but we al strive for a lag free experience hacking at android and never fully gaining what we want even with the ported not so functional MIUI based on 4.4
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Congratulations - it's good to find a device you like. May it serve you well.
jball said:
I finally jumped ship and bought the
iPhone 6s and never looking back.
Please call me a troll if it makes you happy but we al strive for a lag free experience hacking at android and never fully gaining what we want even with the ported not so functional MIUI based on 4.4
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Good luck, have fun with no control over your device, slow hardware, dodgy build quality, poor customer service and being locked into buying the same old phone over and over for the rest of your life.
We won't miss you one little tiny bit.
OO SNOW!!
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shivadow said:
Good luck, have fun with no control over your device, slow hardware, dodgy build quality, poor customer service and being locked into buying the same old phone over and over for the rest of your life.
We won't miss you one little tiny bit.
OO SNOW!!
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I used to think the same exact way until I purchased this one,now I still have my beloved Nexus 5 and my Samsung Tab S 8.4 so I'm not completely tainted.
After owning Android for over 8 years what you mention above is exactly why I have become board with Android.
I've mentioned it before in past threads how dry and plain the Roms have become sense 5.0
No one builds from complete scratch anymore,just look at the credits,commits.
Other than stock Roms Cyanogenmod is always the base witch means out the gate your Camera and sound won't work.
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It's a matter of preference and philosophy. Most of us want an excellent experience and there are trade-offs regardless of whether you run stock or unlock/root and install custom roms or hacks. In my case T-Mobile wifi calling has recently become an essential feature because of signal strength problems in my house, so I'm pretty much confined to using T-Mobile branded stock devices. Before this I always rooted and installed roms, but I can't say I miss the added control and functionality (too much, anyway). I still prefer Android to iPhone because I feel there is more feature selectivity, but I understand the OPs position and hope his iPhone serves him well. Best of luck!
elbee222 said:
It's a matter of preference and philosophy. Most of us want an excellent experience and there are trade-offs regardless of whether you run stock or unlock/root and install custom roms or hacks. In my case T-Mobile wifi calling has recently become an essential feature because of signal strength problems in my house, so I'm pretty much confined to using T-Mobile branded stock devices. Before this I always rooted and installed roms, but I can't say I miss the added control and functionality (too much, anyway). I still prefer Android to iPhone because I feel there is more feature selectivity, but I understand the OPs position and hope his iPhone serves him well. Best of luck!
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Yes sir,the iPhone definitely lacks on overall visual appeal navigating around it's system.
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jball said:
I used to think the same exact way until I purchased this one,now I still have my beloved Nexus 5 and my Samsung Tab S 8.4 so I'm not completely tainted.
After owning Android for over 8 years what you mention above is exactly why I have become board with Android.
I've mentioned it before in past threads how dry and plain the Roms have become sense 5.0
No one builds from complete scratch anymore,just look at the credits,commits.
Other than stock Roms Cyanogenmod is always the base witch means out the gate your Camera and sound won't work.
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So whom do you think will be building roms for your iPhone? wink wink. There is nothing wrong with going with what you want, but starting this thread was really pointless.
fernandezhjr said:
So whom do you think will be building roms for your iPhone? wink wink. There is nothing wrong with going with what you want, but starting this thread was really pointless.
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Not pointless really,I found a solution to most issues and felt the need to share.
No need for Roms if it runs good out of the box or people would be hacking past just teathering and the App Store
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Suggestion for the next phone after Zuk Z2 Plus

There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
niyonsv said:
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
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In reality I have not suggested any devices ?
Nokia could be a good choice for what I remember about its Zeiss Camera lenses, I could appreciate it on my Nokia Lumia which now it's gone to paradise.
I honestly am tempted to take the pixel 3a but I live in Brazil and here it is more expensive due to the importation taxes.
The K20 if I'm not wrong, is a bit strange to my eyes because it has a lifting camera jumping from the outside of the chassis.
The choice is not so easy also because the old Zuk-Z2 is working extremely well
niyonsv said:
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
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If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
akshay pro said:
If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
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IMHO we should consider first the device as it we find it from the factory, with its default software and O.S., I mean we should consider if it can or can't be ROM customized as second requirement.
For example, for my personal user case, I purchased my ZukZ2 with Chinese ROM, than the decision to flash a custom ROM on it has been almost mandatory.
akshay pro said:
If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
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Thanks. I can get a OnePlus 6T phone (pre-owned, 6-128, still in warranty) for about 75% of that of a new OnePlus 7's price. So, which one would be better? OnePlus 6T or 7? Or any other?
mcalistri said:
IMHO we should consider first the device as it we find it from the factory, with its default software and O.S., I mean we should consider if it can or can't be ROM customized as second requirement.
For example, for my personal user case, I purchased my ZukZ2 with Chinese ROM, than the decision to flash a custom ROM on it has been almost mandatory.
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Thanks. My thought is just opposite. I like almost-stock-ROMs with additional features and the factory OSs never attracted me except for some of their features or something. I flashed the custom ROM the day I got Z2. Before buying it I searched about many devices in XDA which had better custom ROM development support. Also Z2 was a device with almost high-end spec then and I got a huge discount then. That's why I'm looking for a device identical to Z2 of that time.
I would defenately go to k20 pro
niyonsv said:
Thanks. My thought is just opposite. I like almost-stock-ROMs with additional features and the factory OSs never attracted me except for some of their features or something. I flashed the custom ROM the day I got Z2. Before buying it I searched about many devices in XDA which had better custom ROM development support. Also Z2 was a device with almost high-end spec then and I got a huge discount then. That's why I'm looking for a device identical to Z2 of that time.
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Stock OS as the pure Android running on a Google Pixel phone, from what I've heard have everything we need to forget about custom ROM.
Our device, thanks to its hardware is still pretty good to offer brilliant service for years to come.
The maior lacks, I IMHO can resume for Z2 are:
1 - A not superlative camera, beside its hw specs which are not the top of the market, probably has not been achieved the very best in terms of firmware and software to manage it at a better level.
2 - A not superlative sound in terms of loudness
Regards,
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
manishgkasera said:
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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manishgkasera said:
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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That's how I used my Z2 bro. It has a unique design (all phones where curved then) and it always stayed different from others. But there's one thing that I changed thrice and it was a bit more costly - battery. Also my phone is becoming slow and slow each day. Tried different ROMs, reduced number of apps. The phone is not performing well too. It is taking ages to click a photo. Also the earpiece speaker now started distorting, I've to use headset always for talking. There are other reasons here and there, so I think it is better to change my phone. That's why I asked for suggestion.
I'm also looking for an upgrade to this phone. I bought the ZUK about 3 years ago with the intention of only keeping it for under 12 months. But I ended up sticking with it since I couldn't find a suitable upgrade at the time. After a lot of use it seems the ZUK is starting to show signs of slowing down. It's taking time to open apps and the storage is incredibly slow as prooven by benchmark testing.
Unfortunately my choice for a replacement is limited because I get eyestrain and headaches when looking at AMOLED screens with PWM flickering. The Asus Zenfone 6 looks perfect with an IPS panel, but it is too expensive at £450 here in the UK. The upcoming Realme 5 Pro seems good with SD712, 6GB RAM and 128GB UFS 2.1 storage for a much more reasonable £190. But I worry about whether this phone will recieve good custom ROM support. There's also the Redmi Note 7 Pro with SD675 but it has a horrible ugly U-shaped notch. Maybe the upcoming Redmi Note 8 will also be decent.
I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
P650SE said:
I'm also looking for an upgrade to this phone. I bought the ZUK about 3 years ago with the intention of only keeping it for under 12 months. But I ended up sticking with it since I couldn't find a suitable upgrade at the time. After a lot of use it seems the ZUK is starting to show signs of slowing down. It's taking time to open apps and the storage is incredibly slow as prooven by benchmark testing.
Unfortunately my choice for a replacement is limited because I get eyestrain and headaches when looking at AMOLED screens with PWM flickering. The Asus Zenfone 6 looks perfect with an IPS panel, but it is too expensive at £450 here in the UK. The upcoming Realme 5 Pro seems good with SD712, 6GB RAM and 128GB UFS 2.1 storage for a much more reasonable £190. But I worry about whether this phone will recieve good custom ROM support. There's also the Redmi Note 7 Pro with SD675 but it has a horrible ugly U-shaped notch. Maybe the upcoming Redmi Note 8 will also be decent.
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I haven't heard of this AMOLED flickering issue till now. Is it a serious issue to consider?
mcalistri said:
I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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But I changed the batteries thrice, all from Lenovo official service center. I always go to stock ROM between each ROM changes, and clean flash between each updates. It's a bit time consuming sometimes but I know its better. Only a very few times I dirty flashed.
I used it for gaming only in the first year of purchase, now I'm not interest in that, that's why. Also I was always respectful to my phone, since it is the only device I have.
The phone is speedier with old stock ROMs and nougat ROMs, but not that speedier than then. So if I need to use newer version of ROMs and apps I should switch to a newer phone rather forcing Z2 to do all new stuffs.
I remember only a few phone models were capable of taking photos with GCams and Z2 was there in the list right after getting camera2API. Also it took and processed photos very fast. But now it is taking a lot of time even to click a photo.
niyonsv said:
I haven't heard of this AMOLED flickering issue till now. Is it a serious issue to consider?
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Well it only affects a small minority of people, I heard about 10% of users can experience these symptoms with AMOLED panels. It just means you are more sensitive to the flickering than other people. Sadly, the only way to find out is to purchase an AMOLED phone and try it for yourself. That's what happened with me.
mcalistri said:
I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
In regards to battery performance, mine still gives about 4 hours of SOT but that is disappointing when it used to last for 7 hours and 30 minutes. I always allow my phone to run completely out of battery which I heard isn't good for for in the long-term. So perhaps bad charging habits have caused more degradation.
niyonsv said:
But I changed the batteries thrice, all from Lenovo official service center. I always go to stock ROM between each ROM changes, and clean flash between each updates. It's a bit time consuming sometimes but I know its better. Only a very few times I dirty flashed.
I used it for gaming only in the first year of purchase, now I'm not interest in that, that's why. Also I was always respectful to my phone, since it is the only device I have.
The phone is speedier with old stock ROMs and nougat ROMs, but not that speedier than then. So if I need to use newer version of ROMs and apps I should switch to a newer phone rather forcing Z2 to do all new stuffs.
I remember only a few phone models were capable of taking photos with GCams and Z2 was there in the list right after getting camera2API. Also it took and processed photos very fast. But now it is taking a lot of time even to click a photo.
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I really don't know why you had to replace your battery trice, I think it is a very seldom occurrence, nor I can say it happened due your usage, most likely it could be due you purchased a defective device.
About slowing down after time, I agree about the SSD consideration made by our buddy participating to this discussion because I recently red something about SSD since I'm going to replace my laptop HDD but also this kind of issue I believe it's happening seldom in smartphones.
I won't to cause frustrations writing that I've not noticed any slowness on my Zuk Z2 so far, just a little bit when I flashed Nameless kernel which was an EAS kernel.
Now on AEX 6.7 I'm using the default kernel which is giving to the Z2 an extremely fast responsiveness and smooth usability too.
I think I will try to run the SSD performance test suggested by our buddy (sorry I didn't wrote your name to mention it but you sent interesting comments indeed).
I'm sure that there are not many users affected by problems you are facing about slowness and battery, or better, it would be interesting to make a survey here on XDA to know how many people have such problems on their ZukZ2.
Best regards,
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P650SE said:
Well it only affects a small minority of people, I heard about 10% of users can experience these symptoms with AMOLED panels. It just means you are more sensitive to the flickering than other people. Sadly, the only way to find out is to purchase an AMOLED phone and try it for yourself. That's what happened with me.
I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
In regards to battery performance, mine still gives about 4 hours of SOT but that is disappointing when it used to last for 7 hours and 30 minutes. I always allow my phone to run completely out of battery which I heard isn't good for for in the long-term. So perhaps bad charging habits have caused more degradation.
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Very much interesting comments!
I think I will try to run the SSD benchmark but before I would like to ask you why you say that your results are bad?
Did you compared with another ZukZ2 user running similar environment?
About the battery we also have to take in account the adjustment we could have done to applications (running in background or not) the screen stby after X seconds, the charger we use, in fact there are plenty of chargers around that are not good for our battery but that are being used normally.
In any case your SOT looks very normal to me.
Regards,
P650SE said:
I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
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Here is my CPDT benchmark result which looks quite aligned with your, so I think that SSD performance has nothing to do with the slowness of the responsiveness of your Zuk Z2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saplin.CPDT
Regards,
mcalistri said:
Here is my CPDT benchmark result which looks quite aligned with your, so I think that SSD performance has nothing to do with the slowness of the responsiveness of your Zuk Z2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saplin.CPDT
Regards,
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Sorry, the result of my benchmark is not visible externally so I'm attaching the screenshot here.
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