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[Q] Development for 8" Version

Are there any developers working on custom ROMs for Tab 3 (8" version)?
I'm trying to decide between a Nexus 7 (2013 model), Note 8.0, and Tab 3 8".
Custom ROMs, preferably AOSP based, are very important to me. The Tab 3 has been out for 2 months and there are still no custom ROMs available for the 8" version. Are we likely to see some fully functioning CM or AOSP ROMs anytime soon?

Crickets.....

Well I made a post
Like this yesterday and a developer said they will be porting a stock 4.3 ROM to it soon but I would wait a month because the lg g pad will be coming out and it has some crazy specs

I bought a 8 inch version yesterday, awesome tablet even straight out of the box, but was shocked that theres no custom ROMS for it, is it dead or something?
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aussiesausage said:
I bought a 8 inch version yesterday, awesome tablet even straight out of the box, but was shocked that theres no custom ROMS for it, is it dead or something?
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I would not expect any development for the Tab 3 8.0.. This is just not a Tinker's Tablet..
If ROM's are what you are looking for, you need to return this Tablet.. Pony Up another $100.00 bucks and go for the Note 8.0.. I stood in the store for like 30 minutes holding the Note 8.0 & Tab 3 8.0 side by side comparing everything.. Even though they are both 800 x 1200 Res Screens, Our Tab 3 8.0 Screens are Brighter & Sharper than the Note 8.0 's Screen.. I TRIPLE CHECKED that..
Having just sold my Galaxy Note phone, I knew all about the S-Pen and knew it was something that I would not miss.. so why spend another $100.00 for a Screen that is not as Bright or Sharp as this one? That's why I chose the Tab 3 8.0 I also have the iPad Mini which is an 8 inch screen.. I now feel this is the Perfect Size Screen for a Tablet..
But, You need to choose between the Nexus-7 2013 ( I had one and returned it for the Tab 3 8.0 ) and the Note 8.0.. You will have all the ROM's Pacman, Carbon, Slim, AOSP, AOKP, CM 10.1 to choose from..
But.. You will either give up screen size or dollars for the luxury of running those ROM's..
I just Rooted so I could install a Custom Recovery do Backups and Remove any App I deemed not needed.. I'll play with some Xposed Framework if Launcher Theming gets too boring..

RaiderWill said:
Nexus-7 2013 ( I had one and returned it for the Tab 3 8.0 )
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Hahaha. You returned your nexus 7 for a tab 3 8 too? Now we don't need to install auto hide! Bezel buttons FTW.
I actually have both the note 8 and the tab 3 8 right now. I still don't know which I'm going to keep! Pros for the tab are that its lighter and narrower, thus easier to hold when reading. Pros for the note are that the wider bezels make of easier to type on in portrait. The s-pen is a cool toy but ill probably use it 3 times a year. Speed is mostly irrelevant. I don't see a difference for day to day stuff.
I don't know what you're talking about the screens being different. I thought they are literally the same screen.... like the same part from the same factory. Is that not correct?

rumatt said:
Hahaha. You returned your nexus 7 for a tab 3 8 too? Now we don't need to install auto hide! Bezel buttons FTW.
I actually have both the note 8 and the tab 3 8 right now. I still don't know which I'm going to keep! Pros for the tab are that its lighter and narrower, thus easier to hold when reading. Pros for the note are that the wider bezels make of easier to type on in portrait. The s-pen is a cool toy but ill probably use it 3 times a year. Speed is mostly irrelevant. I don't see a difference for day to day stuff.
I don't know what you're talking about the screens being different. I thought they are literally the same screen.... like the same part from the same factory. Is that not correct?
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Hey Rum!
They are suppose to be the same.. but my in store eye test told me quite different.. maybe there are variables that we are not aware of.. But I set them both to full brightness and compared several similar screens.. and it was no contest in my eyes.. The Note 8.0 was good.. but the Tab 3 8.0 was better..
Good Luck in your decision Rumatt.

sad, until now still no Dev for Tab 3 8" and 10", it's more likely they all go for N7 2013.
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creeve4 said:
Are there any developers working on custom ROMs for Tab 3 (8" version)?
I'm trying to decide between a Nexus 7 (2013 model), Note 8.0, and Tab 3 8".
Custom ROMs, preferably AOSP based, are very important to me. The Tab 3 has been out for 2 months and there are still no custom ROMs available for the 8" version. Are we likely to see some fully functioning CM or AOSP ROMs anytime soon?
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Waiting for cm team to release a mod. Based on their sources majority of roms will flow out.
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What's next?

What phone are you going onto next? I was considering the Galaxy S8 but the rear fingerprint scanner has spoilt it for me. I understand the reasons... Small bezels etc... But still...
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One plus 4? Or 5 if OP skips the 4. The dev community is why. My other phone is a note 5, there aren't many roms available , and there are so many variants of the phone that most of them don't work on mine. While people here are whining that OOS is only on 7.0 I can't even get a stable nougat rom for my 920w. With 1+ I can get two seperate ROMs from OP plus many custom ROMs some of which are bleeding edge nightlies. It's also about half the price of a Samsung device, and the dual sims are a must for me.

ephumuris said:
What phone are you going onto next? I was considering the Galaxy S8 but the rear fingerprint scanner has spoilt it for me. I understand the reasons... Small bezels etc... But still...
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No Oneplus any More. They dispoint me... Cz now they are not Friendly with devs... The don't publish Camera bolbs/ right source ? bla bla bla.. They think their phone camera best!! so they don't publish it.. Every Custom rom lost camera Quility!! AND many bugs!! Its not our devs problem.. its a problem of oneplus now a days

Next OnePlus phone, most likely
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Going to Pixel XL I have blue on pre order releases on Friday here. Won't buy OnePlus again

Probably the pixel 2 but never gonna buy oneplus again
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I'm not sure I see what the problem is with OnePlus? It would be nice if they released camera blobs but that's their choice if not.
The OP3 is a great phone. I liked the idea of the Pixel but not for the price. Being waterproof might have swayed me but it's not
Not sure when OP will have another phone.
I'll still likely get the S8! A lot of phones seem to have rear fingerprint sensors now. Huawei, LG, New Samsung and even pixel.
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I'll take it from another perspective and tell you which I'm not going to consider:
- Samsung (for trashy closed-system)
- Pixel (for marketing efforts to play Apple prices while still offering a dull-looking device), and very negative community
- ZTE (for sleezy behavior when it came to offering bootloader unlock exclusive to US at the beginning)
- Any overpriced phone with gimmicky features/functions (iris scanners, double cameras, quintillion-pixel density screens, etc.)
Soo... that doesn't leave much to choose from anyway.

Looking to upgrade from Samsung Galaxy S4 to Honor 8 pro

I am looking to upgrade from my aging Samsung galaxy S4 to Honor 8 pro, however I need some info on the following from you all existing honor 8 pro users:
1. Does honor 8 pro support call recording (in built or via any third party app)
2. Does Honor 8 pro support flip to mute gesture for calls like my s4.
3. Is the camera better in low light compared to my s4?
4. Is the music quality via headphones better than my s4 or Samsung devices of that generation.
5. I am used to heating on my s4, is it more with honor 8 pro???
Thanks to all in advance.

ankydu said:
I am looking to upgrade from my aging Samsung galaxy S4 to Honor 8 pro, however I need some info on the following from you all existing honor 8 pro users:
1. Does honor 8 pro support call recording (in built or via any third party app)
2. Does Honor 8 pro support flip to mute gesture for calls like my s4.
3. Is the camera better in low light compared to my s4?
4. Is the music quality via headphones better than my s4 or Samsung devices of that generation.
5. I am used to heating on my s4, is it more with honor 8 pro???
Thanks to all in advance.
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1) Call recording is supported by using ACR
2) Yes and many more gestures too. Like raise to ear to pick up calls, etc.
3) Probably! According to me the low light images are very good. There is a slight bit of noise in the pics but still there is quite good detail present in the pics during low or artificial lighting conditions. During day time, it is absolute killer camera.
4) Sound quality is very good per my view. I used Mi Piston HD earphones and they sound pretty good.
5) Not more but there is warming during gameplay, VR streaming but it is never over heating even after an hour of continuous usage. After a while now with my daily use and casual gaming as and when, it seems much cooler and heating seems to be reduced or you can say much less noticed.

ankydu said:
I am looking to upgrade from my aging Samsung galaxy S4 to Honor 8 pro, however I need some info on the following from you all existing honor 8 pro users:
1. Does honor 8 pro support call recording (in built or via any third party app)
2. Does Honor 8 pro support flip to mute gesture for calls like my s4.
3. Is the camera better in low light compared to my s4?
4. Is the music quality via headphones better than my s4 or Samsung devices of that generation.
5. I am used to heating on my s4, is it more with honor 8 pro???
Thanks to all in advance.
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I'm in the exact situation. Waiting for someone to answer.

AbhinavVad said:
I'm in the exact situation. Waiting for someone to answer.
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The answer above isn't enough?

Y u are thinking , honor 8 pro is the best deal ever

AbhinavVad said:
I'm in the exact situation. Waiting for someone to answer.
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Call recording can be done using any app downloaded through Playstore.
Yes it supports gestures like flip to mute, etc.
The audio quality through headphones is better against my Moto X Play.
I have yet to get it heat to uncomfortable levels.
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I was reading some of the user posts and they say that internet speed is slow on this phone. And also I watched several speed test videos of the Honor 8 Pro with various flagships, particularly with Samsung galaxy S8. Even though overall it was faster than galaxy S8 in loading apps, but in loading data from the net like loading websites in Chrome or loading videos in youtube app it was much slower. Can you please comment in this?
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ankydu said:
I was reading some of the user posts and they say that internet speed is slow on this phone. And also I watched several speed test videos of the Honor 8 Pro with various flagships, particularly with Samsung galaxy S8. Even though overall it was faster than galaxy S8 in loading apps, but in loading data from the net like loading websites in Chrome or loading videos in youtube app it was much slower. Can you please comment in this?
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Nothing like that in my Honor 8 pro.
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ankydu said:
I am looking to upgrade from my aging Samsung galaxy S4 to Honor 8 pro, however I need some info on the following from you all existing honor 8 pro users:
1. Does honor 8 pro support call recording (in built or via any third party app)
2. Does Honor 8 pro support flip to mute gesture for calls like my s4.
3. Is the camera better in low light compared to my s4?
4. Is the music quality via headphones better than my s4 or Samsung devices of that generation.
5. I am used to heating on my s4, is it more with honor 8 pro???
Thanks to all in advance.
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1- yes (through 3rd party apps)
2- no it doesn't but, you can tap volume button to mute.
3- absolutely yes
4- I don't actually know (I didn't own a GS4)
5- NO, it's absolutely capable and won't heat that much
I hope this is clear

ankydu said:
I was reading some of the user posts and they say that internet speed is slow on this phone. And also I watched several speed test videos of the Honor 8 Pro with various flagships, particularly with Samsung galaxy S8. Even though overall it was faster than galaxy S8 in loading apps, but in loading data from the net like loading websites in Chrome or loading videos in youtube app it was much slower. Can you please comment in this?
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Were they testing using wifi or mobile data?
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PalakMi said:
1- yes (through 3rd party apps)
2- no it doesn't but, you can tap volume button to mute.
3- absolutely yes
4- I don't actually know (I didn't own a GS4)
5- NO, it's absolutely capable and won't heat that much
I hope this is clear
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It does support flip to mute gesture.
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K.khiladi said:
It does support flip to mute gesture.
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Really, I thought it didn't have it

adriansticoid said:
Were they testing using wifi or mobile data?
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It was over wifi, both Samsung galaxy S8 and honor 8 pro were connected to the same wifi network and S8 could fetch data much faster than the Honor 8 Pro even though the Honor 8 Pro loaded the apps faster.
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adriansticoid said:
The answer above isn't enough?
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I was on the same screen for a while, so the reply didn't load until I posted mine and refreshed.

AbhinavVad said:
I was on the same screen for a while, so the reply didn't load until I posted mine and refreshed.
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Understood.

5T as upgrade from Note 4..what you guys think? Any feedback is welcome !

Hello!
So my wife has the Note 4 but it is pretty old by now and feels laggy. Unfortunately every new phone has this aspect ratio we both hate 18:9 aside from the Huawei Mate 10 and the the Note FE. Finding the FE seems hard with US warranty and the Mate 10 does not have an OLED screen which she loves. So...as she finds the Note 8 way too long with that hotdog shape...I started thinking the 5t even though is the same aspect ratio, being smaller might be a good alternative. The Mate 10 Pro is also on my short list.
Still, I am leaning towards the 5T the more I read about it. What you guys feel about it after using it for a while? How is Oreo doing on it? Please note that the phone will be completely stock as unlike me, my wife does not want ANY modifications to the stock roms lol
Is battery life really good? From the reviews I read I like that the UI seems very fast and smooth.
Anyways, anything you want to share (and if you came from a Note 4 even better). She does not really use the s-pen so she is fine losing that feature.
Thanks!

I came from Note 4 to OP5T and I love it.

FMXP said:
I came from Note 4 to OP5T and I love it.
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I am guessing the camera is better too?
I am reading a lot of complaints of the 5T camera being worst than the 5 and from samples, it seems like that indeed. I even started considering the Mate 10 Pro now because of that and also the Pixel 2 XL (but with so many burn in issues probably not).
Thanks!

I had different phones, the Xiaomi redmi note 4 lg g6, oneplus 5, s8, and the s8 plus. But I am going to buy to the Xiaomi redmi note 5 pro excellent price performance. The Samsung s8 is also very good if u don't want to flash roms. Easy to setup and system wide ad blocker and almost every month security updates and a very nice screen.
I said go for the s8 the new Samsung experience is very good and many times better than the old touchwiz and a very good battery live and performance.

Redmi Note 5 compared to Redmi Note 3

Hi everyone,
my Oneplus 3 is history as of yesterday. I really liked it for the past years, but now I need something new.
My priorities have somewhat shifted so tge Oneplus 6 is just to expensive imho atm.
I had a Redmi Note 3 these past years as a backup phone and besides a few flaws it performed well enough.
Therefore I'd be thankful if some of you can shed light on a few things which may have changed with the Redmi Note 5.
- the Redmi Note 3 tends to get quite warm, especially in summer when you're outside. That just doesn't feel safe for the device. How are temps on the Note 5?
- the wifi has always been a thing on my Note 3, I have way worse wifi than with my Oneplus 3 or anyone else for thst matter. Has wifi reception gotten better?
- I can't stand Miui, I'm a stock Android guy. I need a stable, daily driver rom with a Vanilla Android look that comes with ota updates. How are we doing with this on the Note 5? Official Lineage coming?
Anything else that might help my decision making or would be good to know?
Greets & thanks in advance!

5 Doesnt heat much,
Never had a prob with wifi
Go for AOSIP very stable and snappy

-Zeppelin- said:
Hi everyone,
my Oneplus 3 is history as of yesterday. I really liked it for the past years, but now I need something new.
My priorities have somewhat shifted so tge Oneplus 6 is just to expensive imho atm.
I had a Redmi Note 3 these past years as a backup phone and besides a few flaws it performed well enough.
Therefore I'd be thankful if some of you can shed light on a few things which may have changed with the Redmi Note 5.
- the Redmi Note 3 tends to get quite warm, especially in summer when you're outside. That just doesn't feel safe for the device. How are temps on the Note 5?
- the wifi has always been a thing on my Note 3, I have way worse wifi than with my Oneplus 3 or anyone else for thst matter. Has wifi reception gotten better?
- I can't stand Miui, I'm a stock Android guy. I need a stable, daily driver rom with a Vanilla Android look that comes with ota updates. How are we doing with this on the Note 5? Official Lineage coming?
Anything else that might help my decision making or would be good to know?
Greets & thanks in advance!
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I loved my Kenzo, was my first Xiaomi phone.
I find that this one heats up less than the Note 3 did, which would make sense, especially given the 28nm SOC that the Note 3 did.
Wifi is pretty good on this one, I don't have any complaints.
Plenty of options for custom roms, given that you can also use Treble based rom's as well.

goofball2k said:
I find that this one heats up less than the Note 5 did, which would make sense, especially given the 28nm SOC that the Note 3 did.
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Wtf are you trying to pull off here?

Blowolf said:
Wtf are you trying to pull off here?
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I think, in the first line he mis-wrote note 5.

So it seems the Note 5 would be a good option for me...
What are your major downsides so far?

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What are your major downsides so far?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...warning-update-to-recent-miui-builds-t3814895
Only this comes to mind.

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Wow, don't blow up the internet because of a typo.
I meant to write Note 3 Pro.

it's a good upgrade from RN3Pro, much stable, good battery life. This phone only gets warm if you play some games that stress the gpu.
It's not hot if you use it under the sunlight for hours, not like the RN3Pro.
it's a budget phone after all, don't expect the quality as high as the flagship one does. But for the phone in this price range, I don't think twice to buy this phone haha

-Zeppelin- said:
Hi everyone,
my Oneplus 3 is history as of yesterday. I really liked it for the past years, but now I need something new.
My priorities have somewhat shifted so tge Oneplus 6 is just to expensive imho atm.
I had a Redmi Note 3 these past years as a backup phone and besides a few flaws it performed well enough.
Therefore I'd be thankful if some of you can shed light on a few things which may have changed with the Redmi Note 5.
- the Redmi Note 3 tends to get quite warm, especially in summer when you're outside. That just doesn't feel safe for the device. How are temps on the Note 5?
- the wifi has always been a thing on my Note 3, I have way worse wifi than with my Oneplus 3 or anyone else for thst matter. Has wifi reception gotten better?
- I can't stand Miui, I'm a stock Android guy. I need a stable, daily driver rom with a Vanilla Android look that comes with ota updates. How are we doing with this on the Note 5? Official Lineage coming?
Anything else that might help my decision making or would be good to know?
Greets & thanks in advance!
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A good suggestion from me.
Unlock bootloader of your kenzo, install twrp and flash miui 9 8.4.12 or 8.4.26 port by orochi with agni kernel 12.2. Then your kenzo will never heat and will work very well. No issues in these ROMS. These are the best ROMS I have tried and I am still using the 8.4.26 port by orochi.
You will fall in love again with kenzo.
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Probably, but I just can't work with Miui. I need a Vanilla Android Rom. It's not that Miui doesn't look & work good, but I'm so used to Vanilla, I just can't adjust.
But thanks for the tip anyway!

I've been using a Oneplus 5T lately and bought a Note 5 "for fun". With Miui its kind laggy but gestures are pretty good.
Using RR on Note 5 now and it's quite OK, not as snappy as Oneplus 5T but fast enough, only gesture navigation is not really good (bad detection).
Happened when I had Redmi Note 3 Pro and is happening again, imho no point to spend more than what you spend for a Note 5 really (thinking my Oneplus 5T costed almost 3 times as much...).

RR = Resurrection?
I won't use gestures (besides quick pulldown & apo drawer opening), so I guess I'm fine there.
Honestly what could get annoying is the camera. But then again, the OP3s camera was rubbish aswell.

-Zeppelin- said:
So it seems the Note 5 would be a good option for me...
What are your major downsides so far?
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Definitely. I changed from RN3Pro to RN5 and I'm happy. I haven't feeled any urge to go custom yet (1-2 months since i got the phone). The only downside is you have to be carefull with updates, because Xiaomi has implemented anti rollback feature without warning people. Also camera still needs some fixes. But I'm happy i got RN5

Interested to hear more people's opinions. I'm still using my RN3P that I've had for over 2 years now. The only thing I'm really looking for from the RN5 is an improved camera. I replaced the battery about 5 months ago and am able to still get 8-11 hours SOT with it. Love this damn phone so much.
Placed my 4/64 global RN5 order a few days ago. Can't wait. Hope it is a worthy upgrade to trusty Kenzo.