Dual Boot - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

With all this garbage about blocking rooted users from games like Pokemon Go. I was wondering if dual booting could be a solution. Is it possible to dual boot with one stock ROM and no root to play the games on and then the other a custom ROM rooted for everyday phone use? I am assuming some type of partitioning would be required to keep SafetyNet from scanning the custom rooted ROM on the device. Is this possible does anyone have any suggestions on how to go about doing it?

Pokémon Go doesn't work with Magisk systemless root?

Tarima said:
Pokémon Go doesn't work with Magisk systemless root?
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No not anymore not since the last two updates to SafetyNet over the last couple weeks.

There is a MultiROM out there, just try it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development/mod-multirom-33a-twrp3-0-2-t3463838

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Pokemon go workarounds

Has anyone had any luck getting Pokemon go to work with s rooted device?if yes what steps should I take
Systemless root on MM build allows you to have a rooted device and Pokemon Go.
Guess I'll have to look for that,and update to mm..
cooltranier13px said:
Systemless root on MM build allows you to have a rooted device and Pokemon Go.
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I can't get my SM-T700 Tab S Working with Pogo. The CM 13 i'm running is SELinuX Permissive which Safetynet detects.
Couldn't find away to make it Enforced and most Custom Roms out there are all permissive 6.01.
cooltranier13px said:
Systemless root on MM build allows you to have a rooted device and Pokemon Go.
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I hate being a newbie with dumb questions but... LG G2 D800 device-Im reading a lot, and trying to learn the ways of XDA, but theres only so many hours in the day.
I was rooted and had TWRP, CM13, MM. PoGo worked after deleting the .su files from bin.
I didnt like MM though. Did a restore/downgrade to Lollipop. Somehow lost root and TWRP in the process. Now PoGo not working, I assume bcause of custom ROM.
It would be awesome if you could share some knowledge how to keep my current ROM but pass SafetyNet check to play PoGo?
davizzyus said:
I hate being a newbie with dumb questions but... LG G2 D800 device-Im reading a lot, and trying to learn the ways of XDA, but theres only so many hours in the day.
I was rooted and had TWRP, CM13, MM. PoGo worked after deleting the .su files from bin.
I didnt like MM though. Did a restore/downgrade to Lollipop. Somehow lost root and TWRP in the process. Now PoGo not working, I assume bcause of custom ROM.
It would be awesome if you could share some knowledge how to keep my current ROM but pass SafetyNet check to play PoGo?
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You need Suhide to hide root as well as Root Switch. However, Suhide only runs on Marshmallow

Root & Rom Advice from the Ground Up

I need some help and I've looked all over but the information is fragmented and there is too many unfamiliar acronyms used which make it incredibly difficult for some like myself to catch up. So for the benefit of others who may be new I wanted to get some additional guidance.
I got the Pixel XL Google Version
Objectives:
1. Root with the ability to hide root so other apps will work
2. Native Mobile Hotspot
3. The ability to easily receive android updates without having to reflash etc..
4. Stay close to stock if possible, but willing to explore other options as long as security is trusted, and has good
compatibility.
5. Security is a concern, I tried a rom in the past with a Galaxy S4 and swear it had a backdoor installed in the rom.
What do you guys recommend? And how do I go about doing it?
Thank you!
If security is truly a concern you will not unlock your bootloader and root your phone.
Otherwise it all depends on which version phone you have, Verizon or Google?
1. You need magisk root for that.
3. No updates when you are rooted
4.5. Never heard of any custom rom with a backdoor. That's absolutely bull****. More likely it was an app you installed.
Unlocked bootloader is a security issue, so better to stay on full stock.
Root is a big security issue so better stay on full stock.
Jokes aside the only security issue is your phone gets stolen or you install apps outside playstore.
If you stay encrypted and use a hard pattern with fingerprint you are fine and there is always the way to delete your phone when it gets stolen.
mikaole said:
1. You need magisk root for that.
3. No updates when you are rooted
4.5. Never heard of any custom rom with a backdoor. That's absolutely bull****. More likely it was an app you installed.
Unlocked bootloader is a security issue, so better to stay on full stock.
Root is a big security issue so better stay on full stock.
I have the Pixel XL - Google Version
Jokes aside the only security issue is your phone gets stolen or you install apps outside playstore.
If you stay encrypted and use a hard pattern with fingerprint you are fine and there is always the way to delete your phone when it gets stolen.
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My point about security really was that it's quite possible a ROM could have a backdoor. That a side..
Root is not a big security issue for me as long as the rom is trusted etc..
Shouldn't I be able to turn root off then be able to update and turn it back on again?
jadensmith said:
1. Root with the ability to hide root so other apps will work
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It's possible to root to one slot with SuperSU while the other slot remains unrooted, and then the phone can be switched between slots with TWRP or fastboot commands. Kernels have been posted with safetynet patches, to hide that the bootloader is unlocked, but I'm not sure if any are available with the software version on my phone's current slot. As noted, Magisk can also hide root and that the bootloader is unlocked, so it's probably less hassle than trying to root and hide using SuperSU.
3. The ability to easily receive android updates without having to reflash etc.
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FlashFire can use the OTA to update and stay rooted with SuperSU. The past couple months I've used FlashFire to update my phone, and it seems quicker and easier than the sideloading and reinstalling process I had been using. I'm not aware of anything similar to FlashFire for Magisk users, so to me it seems like you would have to decide if 1 or 3 is more personally important.
jadensmith said:
Shouldn't I be able to turn root off then be able to update and turn it back on again?
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While reading I got the impression that I might be able to uninstall SuperSU and use the OTA update, but that didn't work with SuperSU the times I tried it, so I presume something SuperSU changed or something I did with root must have caused the update to fail. I haven't read the Magisk threads as much, yet I've seen that other SuperSU users also indicate that OTA updates no longer worked for them after rooting the phone.
alluringreality said:
It's possible to root to one slot with SuperSU while the other slot remains unrooted, and then the phone can be switched between slots with TWRP or fastboot commands. Kernels have been posted with safetynet patches, to hide that the bootloader is unlocked, but I'm not sure if any are available with the software version on my phone's current slot. As noted, Magisk can also hide root and that the bootloader is unlocked, so it's probably less hassle than trying to root and hide using SuperSU.
FlashFire can use the OTA to update and stay rooted with SuperSU. The past couple months I've used FlashFire to update my phone, and it seems quicker and easier than the sideloading and reinstalling process I had been using. I'm not aware of anything similar to FlashFire for Magisk users, so to me it seems like you would have to decide if 1 or 3 is more personally important.
That didn't work with SuperSU the times I tried it, so I presumed that something I did with root must have caused the update to fail to install.
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Wow thanks for the great reply! It's so refreshing!
What do you mean by root one slot?
The phone has two "slots" for Android. The basic idea is that you have two copies of Android on the phone that share the same user data. On a stock phone it's intended to allow for less noticeable updates, and it also can allow the phone to fall back to the previous software version if something goes wrong with an update. On the May update my phone did automatically switch between slots, due to what is discussed in the second link below. The first link below gives some information and additional links to discussion about the slots on these phones.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-partition-changes-and-new-fastboot-commands/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...signing-boot-images-android-verified-t3600606
Is it possible to keep stock or near stock and just have root with the ability to hide root, and hotspot?
That's all I really need. What would be the best way to to do this?

Magisk or Supersu

I just rooted with Supersu on my OP3, but reading more into this all rooting thing, I found out about Magisk. I dont know which one i should use.
I'm only rooting for apps that require root on the play store, that can help me auto farm and stuff in games. nothing much. I probably will touch Xposed for some bypassing root detection or something that can help me in games. That's really all im gonna use root for.
Thanks!:laugh:
if you're purpose is hiding apps from play store so you should go with Magisk it does that automatically without the need of something else...
also Xposed doesn't work on Nougat
AllenPlaysGames said:
I just rooted with Supersu on my OP3, but reading more into this all rooting thing, I found out about Magisk. I dont know which one i should use.
I'm only rooting for apps that require root on the play store, that can help me auto farm and stuff in games. nothing much. I probably will touch Xposed for some bypassing root detection or something that can help me in games. That's really all im gonna use root for.
Thanks!:laugh:
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If you need to pass safetynet (ie. some banking/payment apps and games like Pokemon Go require this), I'd recommend going the Magisk route; it has a built in toggle/tick box for this function.
With Xposed, we don't currently have a stable Xposed for Nougat, although this is getting closer and closer. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but if Xposed is active, you will fail safetynet. Again, Magisk has a toggle for enabling/disabling Xposed if you need it to pass safetynet, but everytime you toggle this, you will have to reboot your phone.
If you don't care about safetynet, then either or has solutions to what you're looking to do (with hiding root).
Hw4ng3r said:
If you need to pass safetynet (ie. some banking/payment apps and games like Pokemon Go require this), I'd recommend going the Magisk route; it has a built in toggle/tick box for this function.
With Xposed, we don't currently have a stable Xposed for Nougat, although this is getting closer and closer. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but if Xposed is active, you will fail safetynet. Again, Magisk has a toggle for enabling/disabling Xposed if you need it to pass safetynet, but everytime you toggle this, you will have to reboot your phone.
If you don't care about safetynet, then either or has solutions to what you're looking to do (with hiding root).
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So like, if you want to cheat on more "secure" games (like games made by bigger companies) u need to bypass safetynet. And Magisk is better for that
AllenPlaysGames said:
So like, if you want to cheat on more "secure" games (like games made by bigger companies) u need to bypass safetynet. And Magisk is better for that
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yes
Magisk all the way. It's so much more easier to use and a ton more functional especially with the modules.
MAGISK ??
See my sig ^^ Even my Watch is modded with it
Magisk.
SuperSU is now owned by a Chinese company so we have no idea what they are doing with the data. And i don't trust root access by a closed system.
AllenPlaysGames said:
I just rooted with Supersu on my OP3, but reading more into this all rooting thing, I found out about Magisk. I dont know which one i should use.
I'm only rooting for apps that require root on the play store, that can help me auto farm and stuff in games. nothing much. I probably will touch Xposed for some bypassing root detection or something that can help me in games. That's really all im gonna use root for.
Thanks!:laugh:
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Magisk

Unlock, Root, Xposed and then relock

Hi, my Mix2 arrived few days ago and I find MiUI quite nice, yet lacking few things. Those are easily available via xposed, hence I need to root. I'm also not so lucky in these matters so before I start to tinker with it I'd like to learn few things.
What are least dangerous ways to unlock and root phone? (heard sth about magisk, its quite new for me, haven't been rooting phones for couple years now) Is it good?
Suppose I succeed unlocking, rooting and flashing xposed, can I relock bootloader? I want that because ie AndroidPay needs that to work, and I haven't found any working rootcloack or similar (at least on Note2)
How reliable is 'the most official tool' for xiaomi flashing (from eu.xiaomi.com ?)? I mean can it bring back the dead or revert phone back to where I started, without any trace of tinkering?
As a new xiaomi owner are there any critical things I need to know?
Thanks!
If you flash magisk, which is the best thing ever btw, you won't have to relock bootloader to get Android pay working.
yeyeoke said:
If you flash magisk, which is the best thing ever btw, you won't have to relock bootloader to get Android pay working.
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Thanks, I read about that and intend to use it. Though, there might be some issues with magisk and different versions. What features does it have?
So far, need to wait 3 days to unlock bootloader.
Mighty_Ahti said:
Thanks, I read about that and intend to use it. Though, there might be some issues with magisk and different versions.
So far, need to wait 3 days to unlock bootloader.
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I've been using magisk on my Note 3 Pro since release and I've never had an issue. Yes, I got my mix 2 today and I'm also waiting for 3 days..
Mighty_Ahti said:
Hi, my Mix2 arrived few days ago and I find MiUI quite nice, yet lacking few things. Those are easily available via xposed, hence I need to root. I'm also not so lucky in these matters so before I start to tinker with it I'd like to learn few things.
What are least dangerous ways to unlock and root phone? (heard sth about magisk, its quite new for me, haven't been rooting phones for couple years now) Is it good?
Suppose I succeed unlocking, rooting and flashing xposed, can I relock bootloader? I want that because ie AndroidPay needs that to work, and I haven't found any working rootcloack or similar (at least on Note2)
How reliable is 'the most official tool' for xiaomi flashing (from eu.xiaomi.com ?)? I mean can it bring back the dead or revert phone back to where I started, without any trace of tinkering?
As a new xiaomi owner are there any critical things I need to know?
Thanks!
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It's generally considered to be dangerous to relock a bootloader with anything other than perfectly stock/factory firmware installed. It may be ok to do this technically but it sort of "ties your hands" in some ways after making an unofficial modification and makes it a bit harder to recover from a botched situation.
You can have an unlocked bootloader and still use Android Pay. This can be achieved either with a ROM that is built to accomplish this (Epic ROM is an example of this) or by using Magisk, which allows root without any sort of SafetyNet trip in many cases. I don't believe there's *any* way to install Xposed and also use Android Pay or any other SafetyNet apps...the best alternative if you really want Xposed is to use Magisk and then install the Xposed Magisk module...you still can't pass SafetyNet with this setup but Magisk allows you to disable Xposed if you're willing to uncheck it in the Magisk Manager app and reboot the phone, after which time SafetyNet should pass ok...at least with this setup you'll be able to kind of have your cake and eat it too, though it's not ideal as you'll have to reboot if you want to change the status of Xposed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268
Thank you for detailed answer. I didn't know that.
flyer_andy said:
the best alternative if you really want Xposed is to use Magisk and then install the Xposed Magisk module...you still can't pass SafetyNet with this setup but Magisk allows you to disable Xposed
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I tried AndroidPay few times past few days and it didn't work at all. Perhaps terminals were not compatibile. So lets say I gave up on AndroidPay - can I use regular Xposed along with Magisk? Or does it have to be that module?
Mighty_Ahti said:
Thank you for detailed answer. I didn't know that.
I tried AndroidPay few times past few days and it didn't work at all. Perhaps terminals were not compatibile. So lets say I gave up on AndroidPay - can I use regular Xposed along with Magisk? Or does it have to be that module?
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Oh! I think I may be able to help you with the Android Pay issue - my phone didn't work right with Android Pay until I made sure *all* Google apps' permissions were allowed via the Apps menu in Settings (along with "Autostart" via the security app)...and also toggled the NFC setting where it lets you select between "embedded secure element" and "HCE Wallet." It probably is on "HCE Wallet" but try toggling to "embedded secure element" and then back to "HCE Wallet" a couple of times. My Mix 2 would not make a terminal connection until I did this...it would just say "card read error." Seems like a firmware bug. Let me know if that helps!
But yeah if you don't want to use Android Pay then normal Xposed should be fine...you wouldn't need Magisk I don't think. Though, I'm not sure but I think the Magisk Xposed module probably functions the same as normal Xposed so I'm not sure there's an advantage in doing so. But of course it's all about personal preference!
Whoah, I'm still new to xiaomi/android7+ policies, where each app's permissions are reduced to bare minimum (messenger not being able to show notifications for example). I will definitely try this tomorrow.
So far I just managed to unlock BL, flash recovery and install magisk. SafetyNet checks ok. Will try xposed tomorrow after some payments ;D Thanks!
HCE wallet worked for me (I had it set to SIM wallet).
If I understand correctly here is the possible solution to xposed+magisk+androidPay.
I'd need phh's su binaries for that and keep crossing fingers for it to work on 7.1
I need to learn more about that stuff before I break something
So as I was expecting I experience troubles in installing Xposed.
I followed official way as in here And got bootloop.
I removed magisk stuff in recovery and fixed bootloop, then installed v89.0 (not .1) and also bootloop.
Im using SDK25, and miui 9 - 7.1.1 so it should be ok I think
Mighty_Ahti said:
So as I was expecting I experience troubles in installing Xposed.
I followed official way as in here And got bootloop.
I removed magisk stuff in recovery and fixed bootloop, then installed v89.0 (not .1) and also bootloop.
Im using SDK25, and miui 9 - 7.1.1 so it should be ok I think
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Disable hooks from the xposed apps settings before flashing xposed
What hooks? I dont have any modules yet
Mighty_Ahti said:
What hooks? I dont have any modules yet
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It's a toggle in the settings under experimental, disable resource hooks
Boot took longer but it works. Thanks! Do I have to keep it on all the time ?
Mighty_Ahti said:
Boot took longer but it works. Thanks! Do I have to keep it on all the time ?
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Yeah, phone won't boot with it on. Don't think it makes much difference anyway
Hi @Mighty_Ahti, how much time was "longer"? it's been loading for over 5 minutes already. Thanks
Certainly below 5 minutes.

[XT1676] Has anyone managed to flash a 64-bit ROM and still passed SafetyNet?

Hey everyone,
So with pokemon GO dropping support for 32-bit devices soon (and Motorola decided to give us a 32-bit OS on 64-bit hardware....), I was wondering if there was any way I could flash a 64-bit ROM and still pass the SafetyNet CTS check? I guess I'd have to flash something without built in root, and then re-lock the bootloader, has anyone done this before?
Currently running stock ROM on my XT1676.
Thanks in advance,
J.e.v.a
Jimmy_The_Squid said:
Hey everyone,
So with pokemon GO dropping support for 32-bit devices soon (and Motorola decided to give us a 32-bit OS on 64-bit hardware....), I was wondering if there was any way I could flash a 64-bit ROM and still pass the SafetyNet CTS check? I guess I'd have to flash something without built in root, and then re-lock the bootloader, has anyone done this before?
Currently running stock ROM on my XT1676.
Thanks in advance,
J.e.v.a
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Why would you want to re-lock the bootloader? You couldn't do that anyway without flashing a stock unmodified firmware image and even then its not advisable because if something happens in the future you may not be able to reflash firmware as the bootloader is locked
Anyway to answer your question - most 64bit roms pass safetynet by default (lineage 17.1 & AOSP for example) as they contain a hack that changes the device fingerprint (you will get a message on boot about contacting the manufacturer due to the mismatch of fingerprints but this can be ignored)
If you want root flash magisk and then hide pokemon go in magisk hide assuming magisk still supports hiding of root as I haven't tested it for a while
Also no roms should be rooted by default - you need to root it yourself if you want to
Jimmy_The_Squid said:
Hey everyone,
So with pokemon GO dropping support for 32-bit devices soon (and Motorola decided to give us a 32-bit OS on 64-bit hardware....), I was wondering if there was any way I could flash a 64-bit ROM and still pass the SafetyNet CTS check? I guess I'd have to flash something without built in root, and then re-lock the bootloader, has anyone done this before?
Currently running stock ROM on my XT1676.
Thanks in advance,
J.e.v.a
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Just use MintOS with Magisk
It will work out of the box
Thanks for the advice both, I wanted to relock the bootloader as I believe the CTS check fails if it is detected as being unlocked. I'll have a go with one of the recommended ROMs and let you know how it turns out. I don't have any need for Root.
J.e.v.a.
Jimmy_The_Squid said:
Thanks for the advice both, I wanted to relock the bootloader as I believe the CTS check fails if it is detected as being unlocked. I'll have a go with one of the recommended ROMs and let you know how it turns out. I don't have any need for Root.
J.e.v.a.
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The bootloader tripping CTS does not work on this phone, it's too old
And you ironically need Magisk to pass SafetyNet! Magisk Hide hides Custom ROM things too that will trap SafetyNet.
nift4 said:
The bootloader tripping CTS does not work on this phone, it's too old
And you ironically need Magisk to pass SafetyNet! Magisk Hide hides Custom ROM things too that will trap SafetyNet.
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Ah good to hear having an old phone works in my favour sometimes.
I'm in same boat : wanted to flash the Lineage OS 64 bit version on the G5.
I don't understand why we need to use Magisk, I used to do the same last year on a Samsung J3 and flash a Lineage 14.1 (32bits and without root).
And it pass Safetynet checks wihout Magisk, is Magisks reaaly required on the G5 if we don't root the phone ?
Thanks
foosee said:
I'm in same boat : wanted to flash the Lineage OS 64 bit version on the G5.
I don't understand why we need to use Magisk, I used to do the same last year on a Samsung J3 and flash a Lineage 14.1 (32bits and without root).
And it pass Safetynet checks wihout Magisk, is Magisks reaaly required on the G5 if we don't root the phone ?
Thanks
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It depends if the rom passes safetynet by default
If it doesn't you need magisk to either flash a safetynet module or change device fingerprint in order to pass cts
You also need it to hide the fact you're rooted from apps using magisk hide
So to clarify - if the rom passes basic integrity & cts there shouldn't be a need to root
If it doesn't you need to use magisk to help you pass these things and to hide root
foosee said:
I'm in same boat : wanted to flash the Lineage OS 64 bit version on the G5.
I don't understand why we need to use Magisk, I used to do the same last year on a Samsung J3 and flash a Lineage 14.1 (32bits and without root).
And it pass Safetynet checks wihout Magisk, is Magisks reaaly required on the G5 if we don't root the phone ?
Thanks
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Try it. You can unroot and root your phone with the zips.

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