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Is OnePlus trutworthy and reputable company ?

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This-Denny said:
Hello,
Can someone tell me if OnePlus is a trustworthy and reputable company in terms of security (No backdoors etc) as well as quality built ?
I want to get OnePlus 3 but I am a bit hesitant since I haven't heard of them before but I have noticed that on their website you can select a region and there a quite a few of them so I assume they have their other divisions also in those countries since delivery is fast too ?
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Don't say "fast delivery" to one who ordered on 15th of September and will get the phone on 3rd of October (estimated date).

Well its android.. If u want an 'total' 'secure' phone go with Apple... Nothing wrong with the company
Got my phone in 4 days. I ordered it the moment that it was in stock again..

OnePlus die hard fan here.

Phone is safe using it now
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Demian3112 said:
Well its android.. If u want an 'total' 'secure' phone go with Apple... Nothing wrong with the company
Got my phone in 4 days. I ordered it the moment that it was in stock again..
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Prince Chandela said:
Get iPhone it's way better in providing after sales support and also security is best. If you want android with security consider getting blackberry dtek50
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Apple isn't the only secure option at all. Google Nexus phones have been equally secure and received consistent security updates
Even blackberry is beginning to offer this, but that remains to be seen.

This-Denny said:
Hello,
Can someone tell me if OnePlus is a trustworthy and reputable company in terms of security (No backdoors etc) as well as quality built ?
I want to get OnePlus 3 but I am a bit hesitant since I haven't heard of them before but I have noticed that on their website you can select a region and there a quite a few of them so I assume they have their other divisions also in those countries since delivery is fast too ?
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Get iPhone it's way better in providing after sales support and also security is best. If you want android with security consider getting blackberry dtek50

Demian3112 said:
Well its android.. If u want an 'total' 'secure' phone go with Apple... Nothing wrong with the company
Got my phone in 4 days. I ordered it the moment that it was in stock again..
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What? Simply because Apple encrypted devices some years before Android doing the same?
OnePlus is encrypted by default, like Nexus devices.
Nothing to blame, Android is trustable and untrustable like Apple at all.
Backdoors and security issues are existing everywhere, even for spying reasons.
The only variant is the collaborative Google policy with local authorities, at the opposite of Apple (surely for a marketing reason, because they aren't so nice people).
My suggestion:
1) If you are a normal user: consider to require pattern/password at bootup, making device unaccessible even in recovery mode;
2) If you are a terrorist: go with proxy, Tor relaying, stay away from Google account, use a restrictive firewall and so on [emoji6]

Giocarro said:
Don't say "fast delivery" to one who ordered on 15th of September and will get the phone on 3rd of October (estimated date).
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Ordered 12th, expected delivery Oct 11
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Given how much modding goes on with the OP3 I assume somebody on the XDA-Developers forum would have a "backdoor" by now if one existed?
OP have also just agreed to supply handsets to mobile network O2 in the UK, so I assume they are happy that OP are a reputable company.
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In my opinion it is very trustworthy.
I ordered my device June 21st, and received it 2 days later. I have never used a smartphone like this one before, it's very fast, customizable and has a good battery life.
Untill now I have yet to discover any bugs.
Also the warranty is very good.

Demian3112 said:
Well its android.. If u want an 'total' 'secure' phone go with Apple... Nothing wrong with the company
Got my phone in 4 days. I ordered it the moment that it was in stock again..
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Locked down doesn't equal security. I'd argue the open source nature of Android makes it more secure, as just about anybody can audit it.

Don't trust anyone in this business. Neither Google, nor Apple, nor Microsoft, nor Samsung, nor Oneplus nor anyone else.
Follow the simplest rules of privacy and security, use security software such as Orbot, AFWall+, Xprivacy, don't click on everything in the net. The rest is hope.

What's in a name? Toasted Marshmallow!

I suppose that for us diehard Note keepers, we can say goodby to the idea of ever seeing Nougat? If Samsung says to return them all, I can't imagine they'll continue to support it.

kat3k said:
I suppose that for us diehard Note keepers, we can say goodby to the idea of ever seeing Nougat? If Samsung says to return them all, I can't imagine they'll continue to support it.
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Yup, can't see any reason for them to support a device they specially said to return and get a full refund or exchange.
i will not say never though...s8/note8/w.e the new name will be...will get ported to the note 7 i am 99% sure

Hey, we can always make S'mores!
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mgbotoe said:
Yup, can't see any reason for them to suppose a device they specially said to return and get a full refund or exchange.
i will not say never though...s8/note8/w.e the new name will be...will get ported to the note 7 i am 99% sure
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Unfortunately this whole new return thing is U.S. only. Samsung Canada us playing dumb directing me to the "latest news" on their site praising the new safe Note 7s.
If there is a second recall in the U.S. hopefully Canada follows suite.
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jmitr said:
Unfortunately this whole new return thing is U.S. only. Samsung Canada us playing dumb directing me to the "latest news" on their site praising the new safe Note 7s.
If there is a second recall in the U.S. hopefully Canada follows suite.
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wow....really o.o

mgbotoe said:
wow....really o.o
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Number 1 reason this whole thing sucks for me.
I am a Pilot with Air Canada.
During recall #1 when Samsung Canada was slow to react saying nothing was wrong with their phones I literally had to ask "are you willing to take the risk of my Note 7 having an incident in my flightdeck" to get somewhere.
I used an old phone until my replacement was ready ( I ordered directly from Samsung Canada and they refused to issue me a loner saying my phone was safe to keep using, even while I told them I AM AN AIRLINE PILOT). I have been using my new Note 7 but now I will have to stop again.
Yet again, Samsung Canada is behind the times (and will continue to be) and told me TODAY that my new Note 7 is perfectly safe and I should continue using it. Once again, telling them I AM AN AIRLINE PILOT went wooosh, right over their heads.
I am getting tired of this. If there is a second recall I am demanding a full refund for the phone and all accessories.
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So, if you are pilot, you should never carry any device wilth lithium batteries, ANY lithium batt operated device has the chance of a burning event

I think OS updates are over rated anyway. I rarely update my devices - they are usually one, at most two year devices and if an update does come within the time I actually use the device, it usually has bugs that need to be worked out the first couple months and rarely is there enough upgrade anyway. Sometimes it makes the phone worse. I am on my original custom ROM on my Note 4 Dev edition. Disabled OTA apk's via titanium. I have disabled OTA's on my N7 via Package Disabler. Neither my replacement N7 nor my original N7 did I take the battery "fix" OTA. I froze that first off on my new N7 even though it had downloaded it I never installed the update. So I have no reason to take a VZ OTA and now I can root my N7 if I want to. Doubt that would effect the recall if I have to send my N7 back. I am fine with MM. I am fine with this phone as is - best phone in the world is good enough for me.

winol said:
So, if you are pilot, you should never carry any device wilth lithium batteries, ANY lithium batt operated device has the chance of a burning event
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Ah your one of the "your over reacting" or "shouldn't have any electronics" morons.
Our Electronic Flight bags (EFBs) are Ipads, they have lithium batteries. And you would want a job where you are gone a week at a time with no cell phone to contact your Family?
Adding you to my ignore list.
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Is this phone pretty much dead on launch as far as the dev community goes?

I got this phone mostly because the hardware specs were top notch and my old Zenfone 2 (Z00A) had amazing CM support and even an official bootloader unlock. The ZS570KL still has yet to get so much as a root. Going from CM to the bloated, ugly stock ROM hasn't been fun and I can't wait to get something better. I've prodded ASUS for info on a bootloader unlock and they have basically just said that they can't comment on a release date, or if it's even coming at all.
Is there any active development for this phone or is it just dead?

it's active, but what you see here, is all answered questions that we ask already, so there isn't much we can do , until we get from asus. And then alert every develop out there to start making custom roms for this phone.

I think many people like myself are waiting on the bootloader unlock before buying. If they are going to release it, it better be soon. Else they risk newer phones coming out that trump the specs of this phone that ARE developer friendly. This ship had almost sailed to be honest. What are they waiting for?

Rhokk said:
This ship had almost sailed to be honest.
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Yeah, I'm almost regretting buying it to be honest. I really expected it to be popular in the dev community especially given ASUS' history and that bootloader unlocks are already available for the non deluxe ZF3 and even the ZS550KL. The LG V20, the other phone I was heavily considering waiting for, came out almost a month after this phone already has some ROMs coming out.
This phone has amazing specs and design but is just let down so much by terrible firmware and a completely dead dev community. It's a shame.

Your absolutely correct. Such a shame that a beast of a phone goes quietly in the night. It would've been such an upgrade from my Nexus 6P.
My wild guess is that Asus will release our unlock around April-June when phones are starting to come out with the next snapdragon chipset and 6gig ram is all over the market. At that time, the qualities that make this special will be gone. I don't understand this logic at all.

I really like this phone but all the ways Asus tried to kill its success boggles my mind. The lack of an official bootloader when all their other models have one is just another nail in the coffin of an otherwise really good phone. I thought Asus had learned their lesson... guess not.
The 3 biggest reasons for failure in the dev community:
1. No Bootloader (yet)
2. Price
3. Availability

Its dumbfounding. Such a beautiful phone with amazing specs and Asus care absolutely zero about marketing this phone outside Asia. I had to buy it online because they decided not sell it in Canada. And even online the availability is limited to Taiwan only with every reseller getting it from there in short supply. I don't even think there is a north american model. Why not have faith in your brand? Asus said they didn't think the deluxe would do well in north america with all the competition so they abandoned it. They also thought the phone would not sell because its too expensive but then realized demand for it exceeded the supply and decided to increase production.

freestyla85 said:
Its dumbfounding. Such a beautiful phone with amazing specs and Asus care absolutely zero about marketing this phone outside Asia. I had to buy it online because they decided not sell it in Canada. And even online the availability is limited to Taiwan only with every reseller getting it from there in short supply. I don't even think there is a north american model. Why not have faith in your brand? Asus said they didn't think the deluxe would do well in north america with all the competition so they abandoned it. They also thought the phone would not sell because its too expensive but then realized demand for it exceeded the supply and decided to increase production.
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Seems like a surefire recipe for failure to me....
I have the SD821 versian, I had to pay through the teeth to get it then when it gets shown to others thet all want to know where to get it and how much it cost. Word of mouth is a great way to do business but the product MUST be available.

I had the subforum tab open to check up on this later, but I'm updating some software right now and noticed this post title... I still have the phone unopened in the box Amazon shipped it in. I guess this is Asus' loss releasing a phone during the only extended return period of the year. I've read a few negatives on the ZF3 Deluxe like low headphone volume and intermittent Bluetooth, but unlocking is what I want.
Since I have until the end of next month to return it to Amazon I figured I would pick up the OnePlus 3T and give it a try - free 15 day return period. I thought, what the heck - I paid more for the ZF3 so why not get the 128GB 3T? Added it to my cart and on the checkout page it gave an estimated date (was within 9 days). I wanted to see what I said the ETA would be on the 64GB model that was listed as shipping within 3 weeks and removed the 128GB model. Went to add the 128GB model back in less than a minute after checking the 64GB model...sold out and it's been like for the last 2 weeks. Talk about frustrating! I ended up ordering the 64GB model and figure I can just send it back to OnePlus when the 128GB's are back in but I'm afraid they still won't be available to order at the end of January. So here is this ZF3 D I don't think I really want. :/
jsheradin, you said the bootloader is unlocked for the other ZF3 models - any idea why not this version of the Deluxe?
If it made any sense, there would be no doubt Asus wanted the ZF3 to fail.

Toki_Wartooth said:
jsheradin, you said the bootloader is unlocked for the other ZF3 models - any idea why not this version of the Deluxe?
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Yep, the unlock is available for everything but the 820 and 821 variants. I assume it's simply that these processors require a little more work to make an unlock utility for, but I'm just guessing at that point.

jsheradin said:
Yep, the unlock is available for everything but the 820 and 821 variants. I assume it's simply that these processors require a little more work to make an unlock utility for, but I'm just guessing at that point.
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Actually, the Deluxe 5.5" (ZS550kl) screen has an SD820 and it has the bootloader unlock app. It's just the 5.7" ones that don't.
If I had the SD820 in the 5.7" variant I might try to unlock but I have the SD821...

ultramag69 said:
Actually, the Deluxe 5.5" (ZS550kl) screen has an SD820 and it has the bootloader unlock app. It's just the 5.7" ones that don't.
If I had the SD820 in the 5.7" variant I might try to unlock but I have the SD821...
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On Asus site it is said that the zs550kl as a Qualcomm s625 so be careful with what you write...
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jsheradin said:
Yep, the unlock is available for everything but the 820 and 821 variants. I assume it's simply that these processors require a little more work to make an unlock utility for, but I'm just guessing at that point.
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I love the phone only had it a week but so far i have had only 1 issue with the BT disconnecting from my gear S3. only reason i want to unlock is so i can use titanium backup, if there is a good back up without root please let me know.

ultramag69 said:
Actually, the Deluxe 5.5" (ZS550kl) screen has an SD820
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It does not. The ZS550KL has a single version and it is a snapdragon 625. It has the same processor as the non deluxe ZF3 (Z3520KL) which came out before the deluxes. They probably already made the unlock for the non deluxe and it required very little work to make it work for the 5.5 deluxe. The 820/821 versions did not have that luck and they likely have to make the unlock from scratch.

Hey, I agree with all on this thread. I have the Zen 2 deluxe SE with Cyangenmod and its a great phone. Purchased the Zen 3 but have yet to use it because I cannot root. I also read that Cyangenmod is no longer offering custom ROM or am I not understanding their changes? Does this mean the chances of a custom rom for Zen 3 is out? I also upgraded my wife's phone (S5) to the same Zen 3 deluxe (ZS570KL / 256gb hd / 6gb ram / 821 chip) and she hates it... calls keep dropping signal is low and it does not even say LTE. I did a speedtest comparison betwen her Zen 3 and my Zen 2 and it was faster. Hers is also disconnecting from cellular (AT&T) data and does not show 4G anymore along with no push notifications of emails.
Anyone else having these issues?

Joining in on the bandwagon to vent (really)... This was my # 1 phone to get in 2016, despite the lack of Quad HD screen (especially for the price), but Asus botched it BIG TIME! The price on the SD821 model, even more frustrating, the lack of availability, even during the holiday season, and of course, now announcing their new 2017 models, with no unlocked BLs or Root... what an opportunity missed! Would have been such a strong jab against the 3T, but they ruined it!

I bugged Asus again via email and received this response, again:
"Temporary we haven't got the accurate time the unlock tool would be released for this ZS570KL.
But we will transfer customers' wishes to the related department for further development.
Also please note that ASUS does not actually asssit with unlocking of the Android Bootloader. I must advise that you do so at your own risk, as once the boot loader is unloked it will void your warranty."
I'm just hoping there is an unofficial unlock at this point. The stock ROM seems to somehow get more buggy and slow day by day. Is anyone else having issues with the screen taking forever to turn on after using fingerprint/pressing the side button?

jsheradin said:
I bugged Asus again via email and received this response, again:
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Hey do you mind posting your email so I can send a similar one (I'm not sure what to say ) The squeaky wheel gets the oil after all

autoreleasepool said:
Hey do you mind posting your email so I can send a similar one (I'm not sure what to say ) The squeaky wheel gets the oil after all
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I used this form to submit it: https://vip.asus.com/VIP2/Services/QuestionForm/TechQuery?lang=en-us
I just said, "When can the bootloader unlock utility be expected to be released?"
They responded promptly yet disappointingly. Hopefully if enough of people ask they will finally get around to making/releasing it.
Does anybody know if there is unofficial unlock work being done?
If an unlock is ever made we just need to get someone who knows TWRP to build a recovery and ideally somebody from Lineage OS to start ROM support. I've built TWRP before for a different device and may be able to do the same for this phone but I wouldn't know where to begin to get a ROM working. I feel like no devs even know this device exists. :crying:

I just said, "When can the bootloader unlock utility be expected to be released?"
They responded promptly yet disappointingly. Hopefully if enough of people ask they will finally get around to making/releasing it.
Does anybody know if there is unofficial unlock work being done?
If an unlock is ever made we just need to get someone who knows TWRP to build a recovery and ideally somebody from Lineage OS to start ROM support. I've built TWRP before for a different device and may be able to do the same for this phone but I wouldn't know where to begin to get a ROM working. I feel like no devs even know this device exists. :crying:
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The biggest question we should all ask ourselves... "Why did ASUS build this phone in the first place if they didn't have a bootloader unlocker for it?"

Custom ROMs and encryption on the S20 Ultra.

Hey guys, I recently purchased a S20 Ultra and am finding it a great phone. However, I've come to realize they've removed the encryption on boot-up feature which I was really looking to use for privacy reasons. I went and asked on the live chat on the Samsung website, and they said it was removed and I would have to "use a third party app or rom" to be able to get back this feature.
I'm now looking into installing a custom ROM and haven't done for many years so I need a bit of help with this, is it just me being stupid, or is there no custom ROM's really released for the S20 Ultra yet? As I've not been able to find one whilst searching.
Also I was curious to if anyone knew a easier way or setting that I could activate that I might have not noticed to be able to activate boot up/start up encryption for the S20?
Thanks in advance
Cazzia

Cazzia said:
Hey guys, I recently purchased a S20 Ultra and am finding it a great phone. However, I've come to realize they've removed the encryption on boot-up feature which I was really looking to use for privacy reasons. I went and asked on the live chat on the Samsung website, and they said it was removed and I would have to "use a third party app or rom" to be able to get back this feature.
I'm now looking into installing a custom ROM and haven't done for many years so I need a bit of help with this, is it just me being stupid, or is there no custom ROM's really released for the S20 Ultra yet? As I've not been able to find one whilst searching.
Also I was curious to if anyone knew a easier way or setting that I could activate that I might have not noticed to be able to activate boot up/start up encryption for the S20?
Thanks in advance
Cazzia
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Hello mate,
No custom ROMs yet I'm afraid. I dont know whether this is a mixture of the crap Exynos variant, price or both. With the OnePlus 8 Pro just launched - i wouldnt hold out for much development for the S20 Ultra.
I believe the S20 line of devices have FBE (File Based Encryption). As such secure boot and the encryption option within settings has been removed.
Their was a guy in here claiming to have created a GSI (Generic System Image) that can be installed on any Google Project Treble device - S20 Ultra included. But His method of getting it installed made no sense whatsoever and he couldn't provide proof that it works and/or boots.
Sorry to "piss on your bonfire" (so to speak) but with the price being too high and the Exynos 990 being so bad - i cant see much development happening for this device. I may be wrong though....time will tell.
Best,
Speedy!!

speedyjay said:
Hello mate,
No custom ROMs yet I'm afraid. I dont know whether this is a mixture of the crap Exynos variant, price or both. With the OnePlus 8 Pro just launched - i wouldnt hold out for much development for the S20 Ultra.
I believe the S20 line of devices have FBE (File Based Encryption). As such secure boot and the encryption option within settings has been removed.
Their was a guy in here claiming to have created a GSI (Generic System Image) that can be installed on any Google Project Treble device - S20 Ultra included. But His method of getting it installed made no sense whatsoever and he couldn't provide proof that it works and/or boots.
Sorry to "piss on your bonfire" (so to speak) but with the price being too high and the Exynos 990 being so bad - i cant see much development happening for this device. I may be wrong though....time will tell.
Best,
Speedy!!
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Hey Speedy, thanks for your prompt reply!
Yeah I received the Exynos version from Three UK signing up for a contract, I haven't noticed a massive speed problem but then again I am coming from a Hawei P20 Pro lol. I was told however I was going to receive a snapdragon version from Three, so would you say it's worth putting up a fight to try get the other version?
And thanks for informing me of the current situation regarding custom roms and FBE, I'll have to take a look into that and see to just what extent that covers/what is protects and what (on startup or just generally at the lock screen). Or possibly see if there's any third party apps that are able to lock/encrypt app/app data untill a passcode is entered when opening the app (which would obvousily disable background usage for security reasons I guess, if such a app even exists.)

Cazzia said:
Hey Speedy, thanks for your prompt reply!
Yeah I received the Exynos version from Three UK signing up for a contract, I haven't noticed a massive speed problem but then again I am coming from a Hawei P20 Pro lol. I was told however I was going to receive a snapdragon version from Three, so would you say it's worth putting up a fight to try get the other version?
And thanks for informing me of the current situation regarding custom roms and FBE, I'll have to take a look into that and see to just what extent that covers/what is protects and what (on startup or just generally at the lock screen). Or possibly see if there's any third party apps that are able to lock/encrypt app/app data untill a passcode is entered when opening the app (which would obvousily disable background usage for security reasons I guess, if such a app even exists.)
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A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible? Because the snapdragon variant is only sold the USA due a business deal between Qualcomm and Samsung in the early 90s - theirs a massive amount of hoohaa regarding this but long story short - Qualcomm said to Samsung "Yeah, you can use our products in your devices. As long as your sales dont directly compete with ours in our biggest markets" (Europe, Asia etc).
Mate, dont get me wrong - the S20 Ultra is a fantastic phone with solid specs. You'll be well off until your upgrade is due.
FBE is in place from the time your screen is off until you enter your pin/password/biometrics etc. Of course, that leaves the question of - Is FBE in place if no device security is in place? And to that i say I'm not sure my friend.
Is their any particular reason why you need encryption?

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A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible? Because the snapdragon variant is only sold the USA due a business deal between Qualcomm and Samsung in the early 90s - theirs a massive amount of hoohaa regarding this but long story short - Qualcomm said to Samsung "Yeah, you can use our products in your devices. As long as your sales dont directly compete with ours in our biggest markets" (Europe, Asia etc).
Mate, dont get me wrong - the S20 Ultra is a fantastic phone with solid specs. You'll be well off until your upgrade is due.
FBE is in place from the time your screen is off until you enter your pin/password/biometrics etc. Of course, that leaves the question of - Is FBE in place if no device security is in place? And to that i say I'm not sure my friend.
Is their any particular reason why you need encryption?
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"A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible?" Ahhh, this was something I was competently unaware of and just put my faith in they're live chat when they told me I was getting that variant, but I guess I got duped :cyclops:
I guess in terms on encryption, it's just the paranoid view of if I ever lost my phone the possibility of easily getting into my device to view private information and the new/easy software coming out these days to easily extract information from android phones etc. I know with the Pixel you can do boot up security and the older samsungs, just didn't know you couldn't on this one and didn't assume they'd remove such a feature as this is actually my first samsung
They have just told me I'm entitled to a 30 day no questions asked return, so I'm just considering this up to the other devices on they're site as I want to stay with Three because of they're awesome 5G network compared to a lot of others. I guess what I'm just thinking is should I keep a £78 a month phone contract for two years, when I was sold it as to come with a snapdragon processor (which is my own dumb ass fault for not checking I guess haha) The only other one I can see I would maybe swap to is a "Galaxy S10 Plus with Galaxy Watch" which they're doing for £56 a month, making it over £400 saving over 2 years, but there are a lot less features I guess on the S10 Plus than the S20 ultra, would be a bit of a downgrade I guess.

Cazzia said:
"A snapdragon variant from Three UK? Is that even possible?" Ahhh, this was something I was competently unaware of and just put my faith in they're live chat when they told me I was getting that variant, but I guess I got duped :cyclops:
I guess in terms on encryption, it's just the paranoid view of if I ever lost my phone the possibility of easily getting into my device to view private information and the new/easy software coming out these days to easily extract information from android phones etc. I know with the Pixel you can do boot up security and the older samsungs, just didn't know you couldn't on this one and didn't assume they'd remove such a feature as this is actually my first samsung
They have just told me I'm entitled to a 30 day no questions asked return, so I'm just considering this up to the other devices on they're site as I want to stay with Three because of they're awesome 5G network compared to a lot of others. I guess what I'm just thinking is should I keep a £78 a month phone contract for two years, when I was sold it as to come with a snapdragon processor (which is my own dumb ass fault for not checking I guess haha) The only other one I can see I would maybe swap to is a "Galaxy S10 Plus with Galaxy Watch" which they're doing for £56 a month, making it over £400 saving over 2 years, but there are a lot less features I guess on the S10 Plus than the S20 ultra, would be a bit of a downgrade I guess.
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I'm pretty sure a Snapdragon variant from a major UK retailer like Three, Vodafone etc is impossible buddy. I'm sorry.
In terms of extra security - their may be an option available to you. Its called Cerberus. It doesnt require root BUT offers more features if you have it.
Root is available for the S20 Ultra. Go here and take a look mate.
https://www.cerberusapp.com/

Rooting s20+ or not

How many guys have rooted their s20+?
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lol

I bought my Exynos S20 specifically because I was planning to root it, and I have never owned an Android phone that was rootable without rooting it. I think this may be my first. Software is great, features are great, and I don't want to break Samsung Pay because MST is ridiculously useful.

I have the S20+ 5G D/S and like many others I've rooted every Samsung phone I've ever owned. But until a custom recovery comes along and a decent Rom and Kernel. I'll stay non rooted. Its not to bad if I'm honest.

TheNetwork said:
and I don't want to break Samsung Pay because MST is ridiculously useful.
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which region are you in that MST works on Samsung pay?

whatsisnametake2 said:
which region are you in that MST works on Samsung pay?
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TheNetwork said:
I bought my Exynos S20 specifically because I was planning to root it, and I have never owned an Android phone that was rootable without rooting it. I think this may be my first. Software is great, features are great, and I don't want to break Samsung Pay because MST is ridiculously useful.
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in the UK we don't have MST with Samsung pay, so there's not much incentive to use it over Google pay, which I find more transparent in daily use.

Yeah I would have never used phone pay apps if it weren't for MST honestly, so few places here have even google or apple pay, it's basically pointless to take the time to look and see if you should pull your phone or credit card out, it was much faster and simpler to just pull your credit card out and assume no one had the NFC paystations.

here in the UK, since I started using Google pay a few years ago, I've literally never not been able to use it.

Google is a one-stop shop that liked to store everything we own... password and financial information as well... one good hack will have access to all of that data... which is why as a rule of thumb, i dont like saving my passwords that allow access to say, my bank.. its in my head.. thats it.. not stored anywhere... and google pay and the such was disabled when I rooted my s8... and going to the s20+ soon, these pay features do not interest me because I and many others here know how easy it is to hack and get into those apps. I will not use them for this reason... too much information stored in any 1 location is just asking for trouble... and what happens when someone clones your phone and starts using your pay app?
But I dont wanna get too far off subject... right now, you can only root an Exynox and it blows their security fuse in the process... better than their old knox I guess for Samsung, but sucks for those who will never try to open their phone... maybe someone will find a work around for it.... But we can upload new roms on a SnapDragon I hear?!? Its the bloatware that is of major concern to me and if we can flash a new rom and get rid of it... thats something... I dont really see any ROMS out for either phone... my s8 is a Exynox SM950F...
So do I order an Exynox that I can unlock again, or is someone using this time stuck in your house to root the Snapdragon and start making roms?