Community development strength - Google Pixel Real Life Review

You're a power user. Can the Google Pixel keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Google Pixel. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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Now that people have sort of figured out the goofy partitions of the Pixel, things are getting good. The PureNexus ROM is amazing, the few kernels we have are tremendous, and generally I'm content with it for the age of the device (and Nougat).

Its a flagship of Android so it will be used as a standard for development in alot of cases. That alone is worth praise to its longevity. It will likely be supported for years to come.

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I wondered the same thing, I just bought a pixel on ebay. Official support is just about over so i'm wondering how things are on the unofficial development.

thewraith420 said:
I wondered the same thing, I just bought a pixel on ebay. Official support is just about over so i'm wondering how things are on the unofficial development.
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Unofficial suport is still really good. We have a couple of roms such as LineageOS, Bootleggers, Pixel Dust, Benzo Rom, and some more but these are those posted on XDA and there are probably some outside. Much life left for this device! We still have security updates until October 2019 from Google. So after that we'll be relying on the custom development community for future security updates and future android versions. Since we have treble support there's no problem. Even if devs move away from this device we still could boot treble roms which there are plenty of.

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You're a power user. Can the OnePlus 3T keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the OnePlus 3T. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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Its top!
You have an really truly unbrickable phone (msm download tool is available), sources released by OnePlus, MultiRom, and some amount of custom kernels/roms.
Also you can probably change your bootloader splash screen.
The dev szene is just starting, but more and more roms are coming. Dev support seems to get really great, unified roms with oneplus 3.
Seeing as it's now easy to develop for both the 3 and 3T at the same time... I'd say it's going to expand pretty rapidly
So coustom ROMs for both OnePlus 3 and 3t gets unified?? That's great news
sharath_babu said:
So coustom ROMs for both OnePlus 3 and 3t gets unified?? That's great news
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Why wouldn't they be unified? There's very little difference between the two. This is the exact reason unified rom development is even a thing.
HampTheToker said:
Why wouldn't they be unified? There's very little difference between the two. This is the exact reason unified rom development is even a thing.
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this has been mentioned before multiple times by the mods. There are still differences. I see two seperate forums as a benefit for both devices.
I'm currently waiting for my OP3T , coming from a long line of android devices, then i briefly recently hopped over to iphone 6s+, and contemplated ending my life by beating the phone over and over on my skull over 6 months before i reactivated my nexus 6p . I'm excited about 6gb of RAM and SD821!
its nice to see this android device.
I think now that AOSPA is out for the 3 and 3t, it cannot be beat.
No words for this part though, the community is great and is working on keeping the phone well in the update loop.
The development scene is rocking now!! Almost all ROMs support this device along with many kernels, boot animations and other customizations. I even used Ubuntu Touch on it for a while. Solid phone and still a great daily driver.

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You're a power user. Can the Honor 5C keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Honor 5C. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
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development is not good.
not good because of kirin..but it gets emui5 officially
Next to none development.
only 2-3 custom ROMs for this device and development for one of them stopped completely. This is due to Kirin which are difficult to built and then more difficult to troubleshoot.
Been using Arsenik V2 since July and no problem with that but still a pure stock android rom would have been a better option though it seems difficult now.
Pretty dead now.
Well, due to our few dedicated Developers for Honor devices, Development has tremendously increased and now we are flooded with ROMs and they are regularly being updated.

Initiation of Development of New Roms

It's been so many days, I think it is the best smartphone ever could be in this price range, It have everything high refresh rates display, 4 antennas, Ultrasonic sensing buttons, dual speakers!
Most importantly 855+?
Battery 6K mah
How could any developer resist this phone from developing roms, mods.
There's lot of potential in this phone.
I'm waiting from since many days, I may be able to flash RR remix, pixelexperience, havocos, etc.etc.
It's an humble request to all developers out there, please please please start development for this awesome phone ?
Everybody here, visits daily in hope, maybe today some rom has been uploaded by our talented developers ?
Thanks in advance ?
It would be ideal to wait for the stable release of Android 10 for the phone and then start development. Pixel Experience GSI already works on this phone with 120Hz, so with the Q sources we should be good to go for a solid Android 10 based custom ROM.
Dr.Brajesh said:
It's been so many days, I think it is the best smartphone ever could be in this price range, It have everything high refresh rates display, 4 antennas, Ultrasonic sensing buttons, dual speakers!
Most importantly 855+?
Battery 6K mah
How could any developer resist this phone from developing roms, mods.
There's lot of potential in this phone.
I'm waiting from since many days, I may be able to flash RR remix, pixelexperience, havocos, etc.etc.
It's an humble request to all developers out there, please please please start development for this awesome phone ?
Everybody here, visits daily in hope, maybe today some rom has been uploaded by our talented developers ?
Thanks in advance ?
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Don't get your hopes up. No one cares unfortunately.

Community love for treble?

I did want to know why only so few roms do get treble support? It's esp. raw if you want LOS based builds rather than AOSP.
But even there - most vendors did yet not update to Android 10, but dev. for pie is at a complete hold.
I do get, that most do rely on phh (great work btw, no offense), but - can that rly be all?
I mean there are PLENTY of devices out there, that have no personal development, do support treble, but may not be rdy for Q, yet there is NO P rom out there with current patches?
Going further if you want customization you'll reach only roms half a year behind seeming at eol.
Don't get me wrong, am grateful for all development there is, supporting where I can. Also I'm not asking for myself (plenty loved device), but a friend of mine who is not happy with his OM's ROM. I'd just like to know ... why there is such less support for s.t. that prob. could affect more devices than any single device rom could achieve?

Question Disappointment, with solution?

I am a big fan of cell phones and installing custom roms.
In the past I have had several oneplus like the o 3t, 6t, 7pro, and without a doubt the one that has disappointed me the most is the one I have now, the 9 pro European version.
It was already a big shock the purchase price, but I longed for the old days in which you could find dozens of functional roms for your oneplus and enjoyed exploring it.
Before I bought it I saw that there was community so I decided to get the 9 pro... but after half a year I am quite disappointed.
It makes me sad that there is no rom with all the features perfectly validated, battery life and customization superior to the stock rom and with the native camera app, I always believed that custom roms served to improve the stock one (very sloppy compared to previous times), but at the moment it is not so.
I admire developers a lot, and I know how difficult it is, just maybe my mistake was waiting for this oneplus to have its soul of the past, and now I don't know if it has a solution or it is better to sell it before its price plummets.
Unfortunately, the stability does suffer on the 9 Pro. It's one of the things you'll have to live with. To be fair, most phones aren't that great in 2022. Samsung has horrible battery life and Apple's caught in that iCloud scanning controversy. Pixel 6 is meh for a phone, the chip just can't keep up.
So pick your poison.
aforocars said:
I am a big fan of cell phones and installing custom roms.
In the past I have had several oneplus like the o 3t, 6t, 7pro, and without a doubt the one that has disappointed me the most is the one I have now, the 9 pro European version.
It was already a big shock the purchase price, but I longed for the old days in which you could find dozens of functional roms for your oneplus and enjoyed exploring it.
Before I bought it I saw that there was community so I decided to get the 9 pro... but after half a year I am quite disappointed.
It makes me sad that there is no rom with all the features perfectly validated, battery life and customization superior to the stock rom and with the native camera app, I always believed that custom roms served to improve the stock one (very sloppy compared to previous times), but at the moment it is not so.
I admire developers a lot, and I know how difficult it is, just maybe my mistake was waiting for this oneplus to have its soul of the past, and now I don't know if it has a solution or it is better to sell it before its price plummets.
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if you think stock OS is better than custom rom for the 9pro, just stick with stock.
if you are not satisfied with the result from people who do support custom roms in their free time, maybe think about doing it yourself instead of complaining.
also there is probably a reason, why the stock cam is not available in any custom rom...
there are great gcam alternatives, that work well.
for me the custom rom is way better, after the OOS 12 disaster from oneplus.
aforocars said:
It makes me sad that there is no rom with all the features perfectly validated, battery life and customization superior to the stock rom and with the native camera app, I always believed that custom roms served to improve the stock one (very sloppy compared to previous times), but at the moment it is not so.
I admire developers a lot, and I know how difficult it is, just maybe my mistake was waiting for this oneplus to have its soul of the past, and now I don't know if it has a solution or it is better to sell it before its price plummets.
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I'm afraid you don't understand how development works. Custom ROM developers rely mainly on how developer friendly a phone manufacturer is. OnePlus has known a steady decline in community support in the past few years. You would be amazed how difficult it is to make components like a fingerprint reader or camera work properly if no sources are released. This is a massive challenge that this community struggles with every single day. To be honest I'm even surprised they get the hardware working so fast. I'm not familiar with today's hacks but I remember the camera of the OnePlus "Bacon" One was quite the piece of work. I am still thankful to @Sultanxda for the near magic he performed on this and many other devices. Interesting read: Cameras in Custom ROMs: How Developers Make Hardware Work without Source Code
But that was then, "simpler times". With all added security measures by Big G nowadays and how reluctant OnePlus has become to cooperate with the very community that made them so great it can only have become more difficult. They say "added security" but they really mean "protecting our economic interests". If custom development is so important to you it should've been a part of your selection process when buying a new phone. That's what I asked myself when I was looking for a device for my son: "What's cheap, has a decent battery, some gaming capabilities and has a solid development community?". I got him a Xiaomi Poco M3, no regrets. I've been on the 6T for over 3 years now and will likely be on the lookout for an upgrade later this year. Development will be an important selling point. Nothing looks promising! If it's going to be as 'open' as they claim, it will have amazing community support.
TL;DR: Don't look to independant devs about quirky ROM development, complain to the companies about their lack of community support instead.
vincemue said:
if you think stock OS is better than custom rom for the 9pro, just stick with stock.
if you are not satisfied with the result from people who do support custom roms in their free time, maybe think about doing it yourself instead of complaining.
also there is probably a reason, why the stock cam is not available in any custom rom...
there are great gcam alternatives, that work well.
for me the custom rom is way better, after the OOS 12 disaster from oneplus.
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vincemue said:
if you think stock OS is better than custom rom for the 9pro, just stick with stock.
if you are not satisfied with the result from people who do support custom roms in their free time, maybe think about doing it yourself instead of complaining.
also there is probably a reason, why the stock cam is not available in any custom rom...
there are great gcam alternatives, that work well.
for me the custom rom is way better, after the OOS 12 disaster from oneplus.
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The point of my comment was not any criticism of developers, maybe I should have put this " I admire developers a lot" in bold.
Neither stock rom nor custom roms are what they used to be in oneplus devices.
Timmmmaaahh! said:
I'm afraid you don't understand how development works. Custom ROM developers rely mainly on how developer friendly a phone manufacturer is. OnePlus has known a steady decline in community support in the past few years. You would be amazed how difficult it is to make components like a fingerprint reader or camera work properly if no sources are released. This is a massive challenge that this community struggles with every single day. To be honest I'm even surprised they get the hardware working so fast. I'm not familiar with today's hacks but I remember the camera of the OnePlus "Bacon" One was quite the piece of work. I am still thankful to @Sultanxda for the near magic he performed on this and many other devices. Interesting read: Cameras in Custom ROMs: How Developers Make Hardware Work without Source Code
But that was then, "simpler times". With all added security measures by Big G nowadays and how reluctant OnePlus has become to cooperate with the very community that made them so great it can only have become more difficult. They say "added security" but they really mean "protecting our economic interests". If custom development is so important to you it should've been a part of your selection process when buying a new phone. That's what I asked myself when I was looking for a device for my son: "What's cheap, has a decent battery, some gaming capabilities and has a solid development community?". I got him a Xiaomi Poco M3, no regrets. I've been on the 6T for over 3 years now and will likely be on the lookout for an upgrade later this year. Development will be an important selling point. Nothing looks promising! If it's going to be as 'open' as they claim, it will have amazing community support.
TL;DR: Don't look to independant devs about quirky ROM development, complain to the companies about their lack of community support instead.
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I probably know the world of development a lot better than you think... , I wasn't complaining at all about the developers, just my misconception that oneplus was what it used to be.
aforocars said:
I probably know the world of development a lot better than you think... , I wasn't complaining at all about the developers, just my misconception that oneplus was what it used to be.
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So we're basically saying the same thing? Alright then! Easy discussion. Maybe literally say you're disappointed in OnePlus next time, that would've made more sense.

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