Voice detection screen off (Google Now, Ok Google) - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I'm starting to use frequently this ok google command for reminders, weather and other things, but it's a pain to double tap on screen everytime I want to use.
According to phonearena LG G4 has the same snapdragon 808 as Nexus 5X but in Nexus this feature works. My question is, is there a way to enable OK google while device is locked and unplugged from charger?
Maybe installing Cyanogenmod will work ?

edemir206 said:
Hi,
I'm starting to use frequently this ok google command for reminders, weather and other things, but it's a pain to double tap on screen everytime I want to use.
According to phonearena LG G4 has the same snapdragon 808 as Nexus 5X but in Nexus this feature works. My question is, is there a way to enable OK google while device is locked and unplugged from charger?
Maybe installing Cyanogenmod will work ?
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According to the official documentation this is not supported on any device regardless of ROM:
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6031948?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en
Open the Google app Google .
At the top left, tap Menu Menu and then Settings and then Voice and then "Ok Google" detection.
Check the box next to "From Google app."
For certain devices, you can also change some settings to turn on "Ok Google" detection outside the Google app:
Check the box next to "From any screen" or "Always on."
Follow the instructions to teach Google what your voice sounds like.
Note: "Always on" isn't supported in all languages. If you're unable to turn this feature on, your language may not be supported.
The documentation also states that if you enable the screen lock related setting in the Google app that's all you need to do is to turn on the screen you do not need to have a charger connected but the screen has to be on to make Google work

This option is not enabled even if i change leanguage to english us. The option is only to detect when plugged to charger. Different from nexus or note 4 for example.

edemir206 said:
This option is not enabled even if i change leanguage to english us. The option is only to detect when plugged to charger. Different from nexus or note 4 for example.
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see attachment.
I can set this and can even unlock my device with ok google.
My device is not plugged in ! I have to activate the screen first but then it works even when locked.
It also works fine when I use a Bluetooth headset when long pressing the function button there. Even when screen is off.
I use RR.
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I'm on Imperium and OK Google works when screen on, regardless if it is locked or not. When is plugged to charger it also works with screen off. With a Bluetooth headset it works even with screen off if I press and hold the headset call button for a couple of seconds.
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[Q] google voice search not auto launching?

Is anyone else having an issue with Google voice search always listening and not launching on the ok google command? Ive tried to re train several times now, turning off the settings rebooting, and then turning them all back on again, but i still almost always have to manually launch Google search.
What's funny, is both my old galaxy s3 and nexus 7 hear me, and auto launch, but the new note 4 doesn't.
Had anyone seen a fix for this issue anywhere?
Gareee said:
Is anyone else having an issue with Google voice search always listening and not launching on the ok google command? Ive tried to re train several times now, turning off the settings rebooting, and then turning them all back on again, but i still almost always have to manually launch Google search.
What's funny, is both my old galaxy s3 and nexus 7 hear me, and auto launch, but the new note 4 doesn't.
Had anyone seen a fix for this issue anywhere?
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Are you using a different lockscreen, or no lockscreen?
When I tried AcDisplay and the Microsoft Next lockscreen, OK Google wouldnt work with the phone off. It also wouldnt work if I had lockscreen set to "None"
Also, i think you need to have the Google Text to speech selected for it to work. I recall selecting the Samsung TTS engine once and it didnt work.
crazed_z06 said:
Are you using a different lockscreen, or no lockscreen?
When I tried AcDisplay and the Microsoft Next lockscreen, OK Google wouldnt work with the phone off. It also wouldnt work if I had lockscreen set to "None"
Also, i think you need to have the Google Text to speech selected for it to work. I recall selecting the Samsung TTS engine once and it didnt work.
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Another note. If you set up for phone to always listen per that other thread regarding Google Search "Ok Google" waking phone from sleep, I found after setting up secure lockscreen unlock using the fingerprint scanner, this option to wake the phone no longer works. Don't know if that is any part of your issue as described or not.
Standard lock screen, no fingerprint lock. I think i corrected it b qith b a suggestion in a post about this at android authority.
They suggested checki n g the samsung svoice settings, and setting it to the opposite of what it was set as. In my case, I had to turn svoice "wakeup on lock" off.
I suspect a conflict between svoice and google voice search.

[Q] Should "Open On Phone" unlock the phone?

This is either a question or a feature request
When I have something on the watch and choose the "Open On Phone" function, my phone lights up, but doesn't unlock. Is this intended? I don't even use a lock code on my phone. I definitely want this to happen, just not sure if it's a setting I'm missing or it's a feature missing from Android Wear. Anyone know?
I've noticed this as well. I only have a lockscreen (so no code or pattern) on my HTC One M7. When I select the Open on phone option, the phone does light up, but the lockscreen is still there. However, after I unlock, it automatically shows whatever info I requested on the watch.
Right, seems to sorta make it pointless in my opinion. My phone sits on my desk in perfect view, I'd like the "Open on Phone" to just do that and unlock the phone.
Seems like this would be a "no brainer". I spent an hour trying to figure out what I was doing wrong before I realized I wasn't.
if your phone is rooted and have xposed framework.. install NO LOCK HOME... you can set it so when paired with moto 360, the lock screen is disabled... so when you click on open on phone it will open automatically.. also works with s5 fingerprint scanner
with this app, you can disable the lock screen when connected to a certain wifi spot, bluetooth pairing, etc
If you have Lollipop on your phone, and have your Moto 360 as a trusted device, it should unlock and open on your phone without any need for you to unlock manually.
If you're still on Kitkat (like me), it just turns the display on, then once you unlock, it opens to whatever you opened on your watch.
bustanut666 said:
if your phone is rooted and have xposed framework.. install NO LOCK HOME... you can set it so when paired with moto 360, the lock screen is disabled... so when you click on open on phone it will open automatically.. also works with s5 fingerprint scanner
with this app, you can disable the lock screen when connected to a certain wifi spot, bluetooth pairing, etc
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I appreciate this but phone isn't rooted, and I don't think I'd want the lock screen disabled when the 360 paired, that is pretty much 24-7.
HuStLaZ: Thanks, hopefully my Droid Turbo will get Lollipop soon.
HuStLaZ said:
If you have Lollipop on your phone, and have your Moto 360 as a trusted device, it should unlock and open on your phone without any need for you to unlock manually.
If you're still on Kitkat (like me), it just turns the display on, then once you unlock, it opens to whatever you opened on your watch.
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this. you need trusted devices for this feature to work properly.

"Ok Google" vs camera voice control since Lollipop

Ever since the Lollipop upgrade, the only way I can get "Ok Google" recognition to work from all screens is to disable S Voice. But when I do that, I can no longer voice-control the built-in camera app (it tells me I have to enable S Voice).
Is there a way to fix this, or are we now forced to abandon one of these two useful features?
Gary02468 said:
Ever since the Lollipop upgrade, the only way I can get "Ok Google" recognition to work from all screens is to disable S Voice. But when I do that, I can no longer voice-control the built-in camera app (it tells me I have to enable S Voice).
Is there a way to fix this, or are we now forced to abandon one of these two useful features?
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Are you sure you have that option activated in the camera under settings?
Also, I'm not a s/voice user myself, but I don't have it disabled. I just removed it from being activated from the home button.
Kamau54 said:
Are you sure you have that option activated in the camera under settings?
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It turns off when I disable S Voice. If I try to turn it back on, it tells me I need to enable S Voice first.
Also, I'm not a s/voice user myself, but I don't have it disabled. I just removed it from being activated from the home button.
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And does that let you use "Ok Google" recognition from all screens (including the lockscreen)? For me, that option in the Google Now settings is greyed out unless I disable S Voice.
No. Disable Svoice, activate ok google detection. Open your camera app and turn on voice. It will ask to enable Svoice. Enable it. Ok google voice still works on all screens and voice recognition works in the camera app as well.
Exactly correct.
erick161 said:
No. Disable Svoice, activate ok google detection. Open your camera app and turn on voice. It will ask to enable Svoice. Enable it. Ok google voice still works on all screens and voice recognition works in the camera app as well.
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Works great. Thank you!
Ok Google Fix
This may help those who updated to 5.0.1 on the At&t Note 4. It may work for other note 4's. This applies if you already had Google Now set to work on all screens along with various other settings and now they are greyed out. If you never could get Google Now to work on all screens in 4.4.4 that is a different problem.
1. Disable S Voice, the Samsung voice control. Simply go to apps and disable it.
2. Either Restart your Phone, or Power it Off then turn it back on.
3. Try the settings in Google Now Voice again. The first setting which probably worked before - "From The Google App" should still be able to be toggled on and off.
The Second setting, "From Any Screen" May now work and let you train your voice. A clue is the very bottom of the screen "Train Voice Model" and "Delete Voice Model" should no longer be greyed out.
If the second setting gets you to the next screen now where you say Google Now three times but nothing happens, go to the next the step.
4. Put your Note 4 into safe mode. You will not be looking for any programs that might be blocking Google Now as you might expect. I know what is blocking it, it's S Voice that even though is turned off is still blocking it.
If you do not understand safe mode, or have any reservations doing it, don't. Though I feel it is a safe thing to do, I am not going to give instructions how to do it, you can find it online easily. I take no responsibility if you find how to do it then make a mistake somehow and screw up your phone.
5. Once in safe mode, and staying in safe mode and when the phone has loaded everything it is going to load, go to the Google Now settings again and you should see all settings available now. In the second setting "From Any Screen" toggle it on and when it takes you to the voice training do the three steps of Google Now voice training.
At that point you are done. Remember, there are other settings that may affect the use of Google Now but if you had it working before the Lollipop upgrade those settings should not have changed.
6. Simply restart the Note 4 and Google Now should work from any screen again.
7. You should be able to restart S Voice at this point if you need it, primarily for the camera voice commands. I decided to leave mine disabled since I rarely to never use the camera voice commands. You do not need S Voice to be active to use Google Now.
tampa8 said:
This may help those who updated to 5.0.1 on the At&t Note 4. It may work for other note 4's. This applies if you already had Google Now set to work on all screens along with various other settings and now they are greyed out. If you never could get Google Now to work on all screens in 4.4.4 that is a different problem.
1. Disable S Voice, the Samsung voice control. Simply go to apps and disable it.
2. Either Restart your Phone, or Power it Off then turn it back on.
3. Try the settings in Google Now Voice again. The first setting which probably worked before - "From The Google App" should still be able to be toggled on and off.
The Second setting, "From Any Screen" May now work and let you train your voice. A clue is the very bottom of the screen "Train Voice Model" and "Delete Voice Model" should no longer be greyed out.
If the second setting gets you to the next screen now where you say Google Now three times but nothing happens, go to the next the step.
4. Put your Note 4 into safe mode. You will not be looking for any programs that might be blocking Google Now as you might expect. I know what is blocking it, it's S Voice that even though is turned off is still blocking it.
If you do not understand safe mode, or have any reservations doing it, don't. Though I feel it is a safe thing to do, I am not going to give instructions how to do it, you can find it online easily. I take no responsibility if you find how to do it then make a mistake somehow and screw up your phone.
5. Once in safe mode, and staying in safe mode and when the phone has loaded everything it is going to load, go to the Google Now settings again and you should see all settings available now. In the second setting "From Any Screen" toggle it on and when it takes you to the voice training do the three steps of Google Now voice training.
At that point you are done. Remember, there are other settings that may affect the use of Google Now but if you had it working before the Lollipop upgrade those settings should not have changed.
6. Simply restart the Note 4 and Google Now should work from any screen again.
7. You should be able to restart S Voice at this point if you need it, primarily for the camera voice commands. I decided to leave mine disabled since I rarely to never use the camera voice commands. You do not need S Voice to be active to use Google Now.
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Used to
Worked at stage 3. Reenabling S Voice rebroke OkGoogle. RE Disabled S Voice. All that's changed is either the screen must be on or it must be plugged in. Like my Note Pro. Used to just need to be on..screen off and all.
That's a change with Lollipop and not a "problem." (now it is screen on or charging) It appears Ok Google no longer works with the screen off by design, at least on the Note 4.
I can keep S Voice on after doing the steps. (Though I have since turned it off) Try doing all the steps and while in safe mode turn off then on the settings. It's possible this makes Ok Google the "default" over S Voice.

Lenovo P2 : Make "Ok Google" work when screen is off ?

Unlike more recent phones (like say my Nokia 8) I am UNABLE to get my trusty daily driver, the P2, to wake up when the screen is off even though I have "Voice Match with Screen Off" activated in the Google Assistant settings. The screen HAS to be on (pressing home button, double tap, etc...) for the "OK Google" command to work and then it will correctly unlock the phone with my voice.
Has anyone found a workaround for this (forcing microphone to stay on somehow? or am I maybe missing an obvious setting on the P2 ? Thanks !
webvan said:
I am UNABLE to get my trusty daily driver, the P2, to wake up when the screen is off even though I have "Voice Match with Screen Off" activated in the Google Assistant settings.
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It can only be done with screen on however, you can activate google assistant in screen off when your phone is being charged.
ok I suppose that's a limitation of our older phone...Actually I think the "listen while charging" option was the old "Ok Google", the Google Assistant doesn't have that anymore as I can tell.
webvan said:
ok I suppose that's a limitation of our older phone...Actually I think the "listen while charging" option was the old "Ok Google", the Google Assistant doesn't have that anymore as I can tell.
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Older phone? Nah, keeping mic on all the time costs battery and and this is dependent on the manufacturer and chipset which decide the features set. Droid Maxx was even older phone but it had that feature because it had a separate low power core for listening to OK Google Now.
Right, it's just that now most (all ?) phones would have that enabled.
I couldn't find an app to force the MIC to stay on but with "WaveUp", you can wave your hand above the sensor to turn on the screen and then use "OK Google".
alirazaagha said:
Older phone? Nah, keeping mic on all the time costs battery
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And this is perfect explanation.
Is anyone really willing to be monitored by Google all the time ?

Question Google Assistant not listening when screen is off on Xiaomi EU !

So, on the official rom 12.5.1. I was able to wake Google Assistant when the screen is off. But now that I'm on Xiaomi EU. That doesn't seem to work anymore.
Is there a way to make it work ?
PS: I'm on Xiaomi eu 12.5.4 (stable)
have you tried searching for 'assistant'? if it's available, choose Assistant settings/lock screen
reg66 said:
have you tried searching for 'assistant'? if it's available, choose Assistant settings/lock screen
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I don't remember mentioning anything about Lock Screen!
I am talking about waking Google Assistant when THE SCREEN IS OFF.
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You should enable "Unlock with Voice Match" in security setting. I'm not sure MIUI will allow this option.​
HarjunaG said:
You should enable "Unlock with Voice Match" in security setting. I'm not sure MIUI will allow this option.​
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"Unlock with Voice Match" applies to Lock Screen. I have no problem waking Google Assistant from Lock Screen.
I want to wake it when the Screen is off. Like when my phone is away and I just say "Ok Google" and it starts listening.
I have same problem too
I want to disable it instead! it bothers me that every time I talk to my google nest hub the phone also turns on and then gets stuck on the lock screen without going back to turning off and going to AOD ... how to do it?

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