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I have to buy myself a new phone in the next few days and i can't really choose between these 2. They are at the same price here in my country, cheaper than the S6, and both give me reasons why i like/don't like them. I'd buy the OP2 because of the pure android experience, i really like it, plus it has some useful tweaks, the fingerprint scanner, and the metal build. On the other hand, the G4 has that amazing camera, and the better screen. I don't really care about removable batery or the memory card, because if i'll buy the OP2 i'll buy the 64gb version, and if the battery lasts easily all day, no problem. I've read about the touchscreen and the led issues the G4 has, and those make me, somehow, stay away from the G4. Oh, and i won't get myself in that annoying invite system that OnePlus offers, there are some online shops that already have the phone.
What would you choose if you were in my place? I'm looking forward to your answers!
I personally LOVE my LG G4. I have had very little of the screen and lag issues that people were talking about (and after getting myself the 10c update I have literally no bugs at all).
I generally tell people it comes down to the users personal taste when making a decision like this, but anytime the G4 is an option I tend to lend my vote toward it. The camera, screen, sound, and the clean button setup (all being on the backside of the device) all make for a fantastic device and a wonderful user experience.
This is personally the first time in a long time I went with something that was not a Samsung as my main driver and I am SO GLAD that I did....especially now with Root Access and the ability to run Framework Modules this thing on a scale of 1 - 10 is pushing like a 12......seriously, I really do love it that much.
Good luck with your decision though and I am sure you will pick whatever device is right for you.....Just know that both are great devices so do not think I am hating on the OnePlus or anything.....no matter which way you go you are going to end up with a beautiful and power device that will be a pleasure to interact with.
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I personally LOVE my LG G4. I have had very little of the screen and lag issues that people were talking about (and after getting myself the 10c update I have literally no bugs at all).
I generally tell people it comes down to the users personal taste when making a decision like this, but anytime the G4 is an option I tend to lend my vote toward it. The camera, screen, sound, and the clean button setup (all being on the backside of the device) all make for a fantastic device and a wonderful user experience.
This is personally the first time in a long time I went with something that was not a Samsung as my main driver and I am SO GLAD that I did....especially now with Root Access and the ability to run Framework Modules this thing on a scale of 1 - 10 is pushing like a 12......seriously, I really do love it that much.
Good luck with your decision though and I am sure you will pick whatever device is right for you.....Just know that both are great devices so do not think I am hating on the OnePlus or anything.....no matter which way you go you are going to end up with a beautiful and power device that will be a pleasure to interact with.
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I think you've made my mind. The camera, the screen and the phone itself make me choose the G4. The only problems that have been in my mind for a while are the software (the lg ux), and the display problems that a lot of lg g4 owners have seen , but hopefully this isn't a hardware problem, so it can be fixed with a software update, and if some developers will build a pure android rom for the G4, then I'll be vary happy. Oh, and thanks for your reply!
I've only had my g4 now less than a week and I must say it's a great fone and LG ux is a lot better than touchwiz which I had On my note 2. I do still miss the stylus a bit but the camera and general feel of the fone far out way the lack of stylus. I played about with aosp roms on the note2 but always ended up on tw roms so I'm looking forward to seeing how stock based roms develop here.
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So, I have both phones. I couldn't decide because of the reasons you mentioned. In terms of premium the pot is way above g4. But g4 isn't bad either. I'm not so sure if I would say the g4 screen is "better". I am currently using the g4 but because a game I'm playing doesn't work well on the 2. Technically in terms of processing power they are similar. In high end stuff the 2 runs with only 2cores but the adreno430 vs 418 is ofc another story. About the camera, I can tell you it's pretty similar. I think the 2 got the right hardware, the rest is a software story. I would say the g4s cam is better but not ground breaking. But you can ask me anything. Both devices are bl unlocked and rooted. Just pm me
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I have to buy myself a new phone in the next few days and i can't really choose between these 2. They are at the same price here in my country, cheaper than the S6, and both give me reasons why i like/don't like them. I'd buy the OP2 because of the pure android experience, i really like it, plus it has some useful tweaks, the fingerprint scanner, and the metal build. On the other hand, the G4 has that amazing camera, and the better screen. I don't really care about removable batery or the memory card, because if i'll buy the OP2 i'll buy the 64gb version, and if the battery lasts easily all day, no problem. I've read about the touchscreen and the led issues the G4 has, and those make me, somehow, stay away from the G4. Oh, and i won't get myself in that annoying invite system that OnePlus offers, there are some online shops that already have the phone.
What would you choose if you were in my place? I'm looking forward to your answers!
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But they went with the SD810.
G-flex 2, 1080 p screen 3-4hSOT
M9, heating and then throttling
OP2 ? we don't know so wait for some good reviews to come out, ones that talk about real world battery life instead of useless loopback tests. No replaceable battery right. The last OPO is cheaper but there were screen tint issues with early batches. Sure, you want to be first in line for a OP2 ?
remember nexus will come out and for someone that wants pure ....given the rather lacklustre showing by flagships this year people are putting a lot of faith (too much) on the 5 inch nexus. They want an updated nexus 5 that came out in 2013. made by LG.
so get yourself some cheap phone until you are ready.
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But they went with the SD810.
G-flex 2, 1080 p screen 3-4hSOT
M9, heating and then throttling
OP2 ? we don't know so wait for some good reviews to come out, ones that talk about real world battery life instead of useless loopback tests. No replaceable battery right. The last OPO is cheaper but there were screen tint issues with early batches. Sure, you want to be first in line for a OP2 ?
remember nexus will come out and for someone that wants pure ....given the rather lacklustre showing by flagships this year people are putting a lot of faith (too much) on the 5 inch nexus. They want an updated nexus 5 that came out in 2013. made by LG.
so get yourself some cheap phone until you are ready.
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I'm really curious about the new nexus 5, and it could be an option, but i have to buy it until school starts in september, after that i don't think i'll get another chance to buy an expensive phone. So, i'll probably go for the G4, has everything i want in a phone, exept for the aosp rom, but hopefully some developers will do it.
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I'm really curious about the new nexus 5, and it could be an option, but i have to buy it until school starts in september, after that i don't think i'll get another chance to buy an expensive phone.
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i don't understand why you can't wait. nexus should have everything you want. pure aosp to go
It does make me wonder why Google can't release the nexus in time for back to school.
So, i'll probably go for the G4, has everything i want in a phone, exept for the aosp rom, but hopefully some developers will do it.
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Hoping is a risk. How long will you wait.
AOSP means you will lose LG's camera interface as well as the image processing which plays a big part in how good the photos turn out. The G4 is one of very few android devices that has a laser auto focus and unique to the G4 the colour sensor. Where is the AOSP code to handle that. If it isn't in the AOSP rom then you will lose the functionality of fast auto focus as well as better white balance detection.
The G4 will be more premium than the nexus without a doubt but going pure has a price. If you get a carrier locked G4, you will have to wait for BL unlock and only then can AOSP roms be developed. Not happened yet but i expect BL unlock will happen in a month going by the G3.
Bottomline: if you want the G4 and its camera then you will have to settle for stock based roms.
Check out AOSP on the G3 to better understand what the tradeoffs are likely to be with the G4.
I'm with a huge doubt, which one to buy? an OP5T or a GP 2 XL, what I most want is to have a good battery life. But I've been thinking and looking for forums for 3 days but I do not decide. I would be very grateful for your answers and recommendations.
The only reason I was considering a Pixel 2 XL was for the better camera. Aside from that, I don't think the huge price jump from the 5T to the 2 XL is worth it.
Both phones have the same internals and you don't have to worry about potential blue tint shift/screen burn-in issues with the 5T.
Also, if you're big on flashing, the dev community is usually a lot more populated for OnePlus devices!
Overall though, aside from a mediocre camera, I have no complaints about my 5T, I'm loving it and I'd definitely recommend it over the 2 XL
While the OnePlus 5t is a great phone, I sold it because I just think the LG v30 is the best phone out now.
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While the OnePlus 5t is a great phone, I sold it because I just think the LG v30 is the best phone out now.
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Well, maybe the best phone out for *you*. Everyone has specifics they're looking for. LG V30 is a great phone, and so is OP5T, and my preferences for me, I need a solid development community.:silly:
I was torn between this exact decision as well myself, given how many hardware issues the Pixel 2 XL is suffering from. Was test driving the 5T the past 2 weeks vs. my current Huawei Mate 9, and in the end, I decided to return the 5T and just ordered the Pixel 2 XL. The new discount Google has on the Pixel 2's helped to drive that decision. Pretty much came entirely down to the camera. The 5T for its price is literally perfect IMO from an overall hardware and software experience, except for the darn camera. I spent a lot of days comparing pics between the Mate 9 and 5T, and there are clearly some shots where the 5T had trouble with in the fine edge details, turning things into that infamous oil painting mess. It's funny because I typically don't obsess over the camera so much, except that when I need a camera, I REALLY need it to capture memorable moments, and I want it to reliably produce the best instant snap picture quality possible, without me having to second guess it. That aside, the 5T's software and hardware has been rock solid stable, insanely fast, and the battery life has just been amazing, easily 2 days for me with regular usage.
The Pixel 2 XL is by far the most I've ever spent on a phone, and I skipped last year's Pixel precisely because of its price. I was on a Nexus 6P till this past summer, when its battery issues finally got too bad...now that was one phone I loved dearly. I've never kept a phone longer than 6 months till the 6P, which I bought at launch and kept for a year and a half. So here's to hoping I can live with the Pixel 2 XL's flaws for me to love everything else about it. I really don't want to ever go to a Samsung if I can avoid it, as I hate bloatware phones, not to mention everybody and their dog has a Samsung/Apple nowdays.
I need a development support phone. That means bootloader unlocking to not break safetynet and run custom ROMs/Kernels, not just rooting and breaking stuff like Samsung. V30 LG isn't worth the $800, and V30+ certainly not worth the $900+ IMHO.
For the money, I would expect more from them all. My only gripe with Samsung, no Bootloader unlocking for US phones...so, it checks all the boxes I have and need.
Otherwise, 5T is a really great phone for the money....only complaint is lack of SDCard, but can run USB-OTG and get around that, wireless charging would be nice. Otherwise, bang for the buck, dev support, can't be beat the 5T.
After having the 5T for some 2-3 weeks now, I would say get the Pixel 2 XL ONLY because better camera and Android updates. But ONLY IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT. Meaning you won't starve yourself or anything if you can get it. If you can truly afford it, you might as well get it.
With that being said, the 5T isn't a bad device at all. OxygenOS is basically stock Android some you coming from a Nexus device, like myself, you'll feel right at home. Especially if you've used LineageOS or some other custom ROM. On the flip side, you'll be stuck on Nougat 7.1.1 for a little bit. As I've mentioned before, coming from a Nexus device, whenever I heard about new Android updates I immediately flashed it, because I could. Because it was available to us like that. With the 5T, I had to switch gears and rely on ROMs to get back to the latest and greatest, or just stay on the current version of OOS. Which isn't bad by any means. I would've been happier if the 5T had shipped with at least 7.1.2 on board, because there's some functionality there that makes the previous version bearable. 7.1.1., not so much. But it is what it is. Substratum themes don't really work too well either.
But that's mostly cosmetic stuff. So, again, if you can actually afford it, get the P2XL. But if you wanna be SMART about your money, get the 5T. Aside from a lacking camera and lack of immediate Android OS updates, there's truly not much you're missing out on with the 5T compared to the P2XL. Outside of Pixel-exclusive features, that is.
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The only reason I was considering a Pixel 2 XL was for the better camera. Aside from that, I don't think the huge price jump from the 5T to the 2 XL is worth it.
Both phones have the same internals and you don't have to worry about potential blue tint shift/screen burn-in issues with the 5T.
Also, if you're big on flashing, the dev community is usually a lot more populated for OnePlus devices!
Overall though, aside from a mediocre camera, I have no complaints about my 5T, I'm loving it and I'd definitely recommend it over the 2 XL
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Did you know that the price of Google Pixel 2 XL has fallen by nearly 45% because people are not purchasing it and many who purchased are returning it back within the refund period of 10 days given by Amazon. Need I say more?
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Did you know that the price of Google Pixel 2 XL has fallen by nearly 45% because people are not purchasing it and many who purchased are returning it back within the refund period of 10 days given by Amazon. Need I say more?
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Here in Canada, after tax, the Pixel 2XL is roughly $1275 (as of this posting). The total I paid for the OnePlus 5T was $730 after the student discount and tax. That's still about a $500+ jump in price, still not worth it for me at least.
I really don't have a lot of options. Coming from a bootlooped 5X (reason why I will never a LG phone) and really wanted that stock feel with lots of custom development. Only choice for me was 5T and Pixel 2, and sadly Pixel 2 doesn't sell where I am.
And I really don't care that much about wireless charging, camera or the 1080P display. Quite an easy choice for me.
I really think it's worth it.
the oneplus 5t camera is its biggest weakness. i really hate the camera and i dont even use the camera that much. coming from a samsung S6, even the S6 takes a fat pile of dookie all over the 5T camera
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The only reason I was considering a Pixel 2 XL was for the better camera. Aside from that, I don't think the huge price jump from the 5T to the 2 XL is worth it.
Both phones have the same internals and you don't have to worry about potential blue tint shift/screen burn-in issues with the 5T.
Also, if you're big on flashing, the dev community is usually a lot more populated for OnePlus devices!
Overall though, aside from a mediocre camera, I have no complaints about my 5T, I'm loving it and I'd definitely recommend it over the 2 XL
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Well, I think it's an amazing phone for the price and everything it offers, but, how bad is the camera?
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I was torn between this exact decision as well myself, given how many hardware issues the Pixel 2 XL is suffering from. Was test driving the 5T the past 2 weeks vs. my current Huawei Mate 9, and in the end, I decided to return the 5T and just ordered the Pixel 2 XL. The new discount Google has on the Pixel 2's helped to drive that decision. Pretty much came entirely down to the camera. The 5T for its price is literally perfect IMO from an overall hardware and software experience, except for the darn camera. I spent a lot of days comparing pics between the Mate 9 and 5T, and there are clearly some shots where the 5T had trouble with in the fine edge details, turning things into that infamous oil painting mess. It's funny because I typically don't obsess over the camera so much, except that when I need a camera, I REALLY need it to capture memorable moments, and I want it to reliably produce the best instant snap picture quality possible, without me having to second guess it. That aside, the 5T's software and hardware has been rock solid stable, insanely fast, and the battery life has just been amazing, easily 2 days for me with regular usage.
The Pixel 2 XL is by far the most I've ever spent on a phone, and I skipped last year's Pixel precisely because of its price. I was on a Nexus 6P till this past summer, when its battery issues finally got too bad...now that was one phone I loved dearly. I've never kept a phone longer than 6 months till the 6P, which I bought at launch and kept for a year and a half. So here's to hoping I can live with the Pixel 2 XL's flaws for me to love everything else about it. I really don't want to ever go to a Samsung if I can avoid it, as I hate bloatware phones, not to mention everybody and their dog has a Samsung/Apple nowdays.
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So brother, in a few words you recommend me for pixel 2 xl? If this the possibility of saving money I do it (and I go for the 5t) but if I really have such a bad experience with the camera OF 5T. Well, I think I would go by PIXEL XL2 . (I come from the s7 and I guess the 5t will have a very bad camera)
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Well, I think it's an amazing phone for the price and everything it offers, but, how bad is the camera?
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The camera isn't necessarily bad, but isn't good either. It's just an average camera in my opinion. If you're not super picky on getting super clean shots then I think you'd be more than okay with it
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After having the 5T for some 2-3 weeks now, I would say get the Pixel 2 XL ONLY because better camera and Android updates. But ONLY IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT. Meaning you won't starve yourself or anything if you can get it. If you can truly afford it, you might as well get it.
With that being said, the 5T isn't a bad device at all. OxygenOS is basically stock Android some you coming from a Nexus device, like myself, you'll feel right at home. Especially if you've used LineageOS or some other custom ROM. On the flip side, you'll be stuck on Nougat 7.1.1 for a little bit. As I've mentioned before, coming from a Nexus device, whenever I heard about new Android updates I immediately flashed it, because I could. Because it was available to us like that. With the 5T, I had to switch gears and rely on ROMs to get back to the latest and greatest, or just stay on the current version of OOS. Which isn't bad by any means. I would've been happier if the 5T had shipped with at least 7.1.2 on board, because there's some functionality there that makes the previous version bearable. 7.1.1., not so much. But it is what it is. Substratum themes don't really work too well either.
But that's mostly cosmetic stuff. So, again, if you can actually afford it, get the P2XL. But if you wanna be SMART about your money, get the 5T. Aside from a lacking camera and lack of immediate Android OS updates, there's truly not much you're missing out on with the 5T compared to the P2XL. Outside of Pixel-exclusive features, that is.
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the read the comments, the camera is much worse than I think. And now I have been planted a great doubt.
The camera is not that bad. You have gcam port too anyways...
Pixel is a scam imo
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the oneplus 5t camera is its biggest weakness. i really hate the camera and i dont even use the camera that much. coming from a samsung S6, even the S6 takes a fat pile of dookie all over the 5T camera
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So the 5t camera is very very bad. I got used to the camera of my s7, but I thought that the 5t could be on par.
Is it really bad camera?
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the read the comments, the camera is much worse than I think. And now I have been planted a great doubt.
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The camera isn't bad, it's just not super great. Other cameras are better for sure, but that's what you get for more money.
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The camera is not that bad. You have gcam port too anyways...
Pixel is a scam imo
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With what camera could you compare brother? maybe with my s7? best? worst? at par?
I hope my perspective helps your decision. I'm smartphone power user. I don't play games but I am multitasking a lot. Whatever I can do on the move using the phone, without turning my PC or laptop, I'll do it. E.g. 3 browsers installed with around 10+ pages on each, diverse google drive docs running scripts, 350 apps, you name it, it's on my phone. So long I can remember, I was looking for the best phone with the best community (phone customization and fixes), and therefore switching between Google Nexus/OnePlus phones. I wanted the best, regardless of price so I was ready to go with Pixel XL2. Until I saw the screen issue. If you are looking at XL2 from an angle, any angle, like have it on your desk, table, sofa, screen will turn bluish. That alone was enough for me to look for better phone. Another thing to keep in mind is that Pixel XL2 has only 4 GB of ram and that would not be enough for me. I went with OnePlus 5T and I don't regret it a bit. Yes, camera is not as good, no OiS, no optical zoom either, and I'll do with Gmod camera or open camera. Can't have everything, I guess.
Well I will have my S9+ on Monday (will it dethrone my pixel as my daily?) Will take some effort as this device is fantastic :good:
So with that said if anyone might be interested outwith review videos & looking for the user comparison then I'm in a position to compare the two.
My obvious main focus (pardon the pun) is to test the camera's and see how they compare.
But open to suggestions as to what else you might like to see?
No I'm not going to drop test or set it on fire
I have a feeling that it will be in last place rotation with my 5T, iPhone X and my daily Pixel XL 2, but it may surprise me in terms of we know how great the display is and if it can really be as GREAT as the pixel in the camera department.
Let me know though and I'll be happy to test and compare.
I wouldn't personally give up on the pixel device as it is a better performer overall. Plus instant updates are a great.
Oh I'm not getting rid of my pixel hmm until the pixel 3 is released :silly:
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Oh I'm not getting rid of my pixel hmm until the pixel 3 is released :silly:
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Agreed. Lets just hope they let us theme the darn thing!! ?
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Agreed. Lets just hope they let us theme the darn thing!! ?
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I will never be without a Pixel device now, having stayed away from Stock android since the Nexus 5 (As I was more into skins) at the time, I didn't quite get what all the fuss was about fast forward to the Pixel XL 2 yeah I get it (took me a while) but now I truly get it and love it, just an annoyance that Google are restricting theming with Android P........
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I will never be without a Pixel device now, having stayed away from Stock android since the Nexus 5 (As I was more into skins) at the time, I didn't quite get what all the fuss was about fast forward to the Pixel XL 2 yeah I get it (took me a while) but now I truly get it and love it, just an annoyance that Google are restricting theming with Android P........
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Couldn't agree more. I've been running dark themes since my DINC days! Themeing is one of my favorite things about android. Now I fear G may be taking all that away. I sure hope not though! ?
I was so tempted by the S9+ (switching from the Oneplus 5T) that I even preordered it. But after some research (happy to be corrected here if needed) regarding project treble, I was under the impression that the amazing camera features may not be available in an AOSP rom. The build quality of Samsung phones are very good and I was really pleased to hear of its project treble capabilities. But I ended up selling my 5T and getting the Pixel and couldn't be happier
Yeah they might introduce their own brand of theming (but that will suck,) and still be restrictive, I really don't get why white has and must be the standard colour,
This is more annoying when there is a shift to most OEM's using oled displays.
So why is there a refusal by Google to allow us to theme when we and they know that there are significant advantages for the user to use dark themes, battery life & getting rid of EVERYTHING being white which obviously impacts on that.
This is my only real gripe and its obviously just became recent with Android P, maybe they will think twice about that unwanted move.
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I was so tempted by the S9+ (switching from the Oneplus 5T) that I even preordered it. But after some research (happy to be corrected here if needed) regarding project treble, I was under the impression that the amazing camera features may not be available in an AOSP rom. The build quality of Samsung phones are very good and I was really pleased to hear of its project treble capabilities. But I ended up selling my 5T and getting the Pixel and couldn't be happier
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I was going to cancel my S9+ order but I went ahead hmm more for testing and comparing ok ok & feeding my addiction (there I said it).
You my friend made a very sensible decision as much as the S9+ does pack a punch with Design & Display and offers up some great additions IP68, SD Card Expansion, Fast charging & Wireless, it really covers most area's. But honestly it can't touch the pixel for a device that is just an absolute pleasure to use. I wondered to myself after owning 30+ devices over 4 years, what is it with Stock Android? Like I said I had the Nexus 5.
What it is "Simplicity " not iOS simplicity but that none the less, its smooth like no other, its the little things like notifications replies, to the the whole UI (other than it being white) its the updates, and there is a nice vibe to it, and what about that camera :good:
Yes I am also interested in project treble and seeing if that speeds up updates with Samsung (Not holding my breath) if it doesn't then its my last ever Samsung. No excuses now
Glad like me you love the pixel & at the same time unlike me and saved your money :laugh:
I'd be interested to see how the S9+ holds up after a few months of use, and how good the Front facing camera is. For me, the curved screen is a no go with Galaxies now, I just cannot get used to them.
S8+ and Note 8 shows significant lag and stutter unless you use the built in optimiser but then because it clears the temp and cache files, that means you have to load back in all your photo thumbnails etc when you load the apps.
With the Selfie camera, as much as people may hate it, it is great for groufies when out with friends and Samsung Front facing cameras almost always suck. Compared to the absolutely amazing pixel 2 front facer, I am unsure that the S9 will compete.
I think the quality of the F2.4 lens will be sharper than the Pixel 2, but I bet any kind of movement will blur again in anything less than optimal light, like most galaxies, which doesn't occur on Pixel.
Look forward to your thoughts and I hope you enjoy the S9+.
It will be interesting to compare, but I'll be waiting on the next Pixel XL 3 badboy! Cheers
Oh I WILL be getting the Pixel 3 XL..... And I will compare that to, although I still believe the pixel XL2 will still kick Samsungs ass in the camera department :good:
I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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I'd consider the snot out of it if it weren't for 2 things...1. THE NOTCH!!!!! 2. It doesn't work on my provider! ??
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I'd consider the snot out of it if it weren't for 2 things...1. THE NOTCH!!!!! 2. It doesn't work on my provider!
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Same. I wonder if they realize how many customers they are losing out on by continuing to not put in certain bands. Or, do they need someone's permission? Either way: notch = no sale, for me.
I don't see the reason for switching to a OP6. I don't even consider it as an upgrade.
OnePlus screens have never been amazing
Snapdragon 845 over 835... do you really need the difference in processing power?
Camera is going to be definitely worse, even the S9 still struggles against the Pixel 2.
Software updates aren't going to be faster, that's for sure
Battery life and RAM might be better though I have never ever had RAM problems with my Pixel 2. RAM is there for being used, free ram is wasted ram.
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I don't see the reason for switching to a OP6. I don't even consider it as an upgrade.
OnePlus screens have never been amazing
Snapdragon 845 over 835... do you really need the difference in processing power?
Camera is going to be definitely worse, even the S9 still struggles against the Pixel 2.
Software updates aren't going to be faster, that's for sure
Battery life and RAM might be better though I have never ever had RAM problems with my Pixel 2. RAM is there for being used, free ram is wasted ram.
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Very good points. I would only consider one as something extra to play with, not a daily driver.
On your first point, I certainly wouldn't describe the Pixel 2XL's screen as amazing, either. I'm not referring to blue shift. That doesn't bother me. I'm more about ghost swipes and graininess.
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Very good points. I would only consider one as something extra to play with, not a daily driver.
On your first point, I certainly wouldn't describe the Pixel 2XL's screen as amazing, either. I'm not referring to blue shift. That doesn't bother me. I'm more about ghost swipes and graininess.
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I understand somebody can upgrade their Pixel 2 XL to an S9 or S9+ with the main reason of having a way better screen, but I think OP6 screen will not be worth the switch.
If it worked on VZW, would ditch the Pixel and go back to the OnePlus in a second. It is better in every single way except the camera. But the 6 might close that gap more.
one thing is having used 3, 3T and 5, there is a touch latency where it cannot even beat Nexus 6p. seems liek there is lag while 6p, 2xl there isnt any.
however the 6 do interest me with the screen to size ratio.. notch doesnt bother me
Nada! Our Pixel XL 2 keeps getting better and better with more Development! Salute'
I was an upgrade every year user before but have turned into an every two year person now. So 2019 for me but I'm also still waiting for a Sprint compatible variant which will probably never come. I'll never be switching carriers as Sprint is good everywhere I need it to be and cost is good.
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I was thinking about getting one as a secondary device, just because it seems like OnePlus is replacing/has replaced the now dead Nexus line in terms of development.
It would be nice to have a device to just tinker with and install mods, ROMs, kernels, and so on.
But I'd definitely keep the Pixel 2 XL as my daily driver just because of things like the camera and overall smoothness of stock Android.
No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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The day OnePlus supports Verizon is the day I will spend money on a phone of theirs. I am patiently waiting with money in hand.
Short ans no
Long ans still no
Cheers ?
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No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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I see your points but just a little devil's advocate here, your missing one of the best reasons to get a OnePlus. It's got the best performance for the money. Yes they've been climbing up in price every year but it's still ~$250-$300 less than comparable Pixel and Galaxy phones. Yet it's one of the fastest in everyday multitasking, great RAM management, and very good battery. Even if they have it rise up to $599 for the higher OnePlus 6 model, it's still a decent savings.
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Not even considering it. 2 reasons for me...the stupid a$$ notch and the camera is junk. And I say the camera is junk because I have no faith in these guys to get it right. And if they did...still have the dumb a$$ notch. No thx.
Phazonclash said:
No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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Have you even owned a OnePlus 5T? Doesn't sound like it. You are spreading misinformation. The main developers are former XDA/Custom Rom Devs who were hired to work for OnePlus. They have Beta releases which they freely communicate and offer instructions/support how to install and run. The last Beta 3 had full fling/swipe gestures which at the same time expanded the screen fully, not the bad fling Nav gestures that are on the custom Roms here which still leave the bottom part of the screen blank/Nav space present and don't expand the view/icons etc to the bottom to gain full use. That is fully functioning in the OnePlus 5T Beta 3 released that is rock solid overall with few bugs. The profile of the 5T phone/near frameless/size are all way ahead of the Pixel 2 XL. The AMOLED screen is much better on the 5T than the Pixel XL 2 in every way. To say the screen is good on this phone is ridiculous with all of the verified off angle blue tint and other issues that became a public fiasco for Google. Mind boggling why this phone looks and performs the way it does with Google in control of the process. The only thing they don't have is the camera/software on the OnePlus. They have some of the best Devs who came from XDA/Custom Rom worlds...hence why they were hired to work for them. Read up on those facts/history is you would like. Also, they have some of the good Dev support from XDA, only second I would say to HTC Dev. This new Pixel with Treble has caused a lot of issues, and soon everybody is going to be dealing with, even OnePlus and other manufacturers since they have no choice. So the future should get better for everybody.
Clean Android experience? Oxygen OS is already pretty stripped down. You can run Nova on it like I do with the Pixel, or AOSP or whatever, it is just as generic and they are open to the standard Google Android experience as anybody, with their own twist if you choose to run their launcher.
Memory/processor loaded up on the OnePlus 5T. No SDCard like a lot of phones today, but dual sim slots if you need it. It is a great performing phone, up there with the best for much less money. If they implement VZW band support and improve that camera, I'm ditching this Google Pixel XL 2 phone is a heartbeat. I personally was running the latest Beta 3 on my 5T with swipe gestures and Nova, unlocked, rooted with blu_sprk custom Kernel/TWRP version and it was a phenomenal performer and great phone. Since I don't take a lot of photos and use the camera that much...really not a big deal. I have a $3k SLR if I want to be serious about photography to use.
But to each his own. Only reason I even am using this Pixel is because there are very few phones on VZW which you can unlock the bootloader/root and maintain functionality to customize it. Only other phone you can buy to do this really is a V30+, and even then, not as good as the Pixel 2 XL.
Not in a million years. On contract in the UK you're basically paying top dollar for a sub par phone. Did they ever fix the upside down jelly displays or put a decent cam in them yet?
Mr Patchy Patch said:
Not even considering it. 2 reasons for me...the stupid a$$ notch and the camera is junk. And I say the camera is junk because I have no faith in these guys to get it right. And if they did...still have the dumb a$$ notch. No thx.
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I hate to say it but the notch is the new "no 3.5 mm headphone jack". I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the majority rather than the minority in another year or two.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I hate to say it but the notch is the new "no 3.5 mm headphone jack". I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the majority rather than the minority in another year or two.
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I'm forecasting the opposite. After not meeting sales projections for the year, they will drop this notch foolishness like a hot potato.
We each have a 50/50 shot at being correct. I hope I am, btw.
Ok my phone is on it way out, like straight up on the verge of likely dying any week now. First off I greatly dislike this phone, it it the single worst phone I have ever owned. I am not turning this into a Pixel 2 complaint session, just maybe some background so some of my reasons or questions make sense. Also I am hoping that the P2xl is just a bad phone and the 3 and the 4 are better, albeit greatly flawed in their own right..hence my dilemma.
I love the camera on this phone, probably the only good thing about it, definitely the best thing and it is so much better than any other manufacturers that its the sole reason Ive keep this phone for as long as I have. which is why I keep thinking about replacing with a pixel even though I fear I will again hate everything else about it. again sort of hoping the P2 is just a fluke and they arent all this bad.....
Problem is, with the 3s they have the ram issue correct? Is this something that has been addressed with ROMs? It sounds odd I know but there is something about googles base android on their phones that I dont like. A lot of options to change stuff that are missing that I think should be there, a lot of UI implementation things that dont make sense to me, that I feel like I should be able to change but cant. So I will be rooting and putting a custom ROM on one of these if I get it in the hopes that at least some of that is fixed or addressed.
the P4s have fixed the ram issue but they have tiny batteries...I cant deal with a phone with a small battery so the 4 is basically right out.
So I guess the basic question here is does running a custom ROM on the P3 fix the ram problem the phone has, do I keep the great camera AI with those custom ROMS and is the P3 an easy phone to root and ROM?
This sort of goes got both the XL and the smaller P3 because I would at least think they would be similar in these regards. and I may be leaning towards a smaller, lighter phone this time around.
What kind of phone do you want? Because I have quite a good experience with buying phones because I have a crap ton of them. Take a look:
Samsung Galaxy Y Young GT-S6102-First Phone
Samsung Galaxy S3 4G Korean
Huawei Honor 4C
Samsung Galaxy S6 edge
OPPO F1s
Huawei Ascend G6-L11 4G
iPhone 4S
iPhone 4
Samsung Galaxy A10 Dual Sim-Current Phone
loki993 said:
Ok my phone is on it way out, like straight up on the verge of likely dying any week now. First off I greatly dislike this phone, it it the single worst phone I have ever owned. I am not turning this into a Pixel 2 complaint session, just maybe some background so some of my reasons or questions make sense. Also I am hoping that the P2xl is just a bad phone and the 3 and the 4 are better, albeit greatly flawed in their own right..hence my dilemma.
I love the camera on this phone, probably the only good thing about it, definitely the best thing and it is so much better than any other manufacturers that its the sole reason Ive keep this phone for as long as I have. which is why I keep thinking about replacing with a pixel even though I fear I will again hate everything else about it. again sort of hoping the P2 is just a fluke and they arent all this bad.....
Problem is, with the 3s they have the ram issue correct? Is this something that has been addressed with ROMs? It sounds odd I know but there is something about googles base android on their phones that I dont like. A lot of options to change stuff that are missing that I think should be there, a lot of UI implementation things that dont make sense to me, that I feel like I should be able to change but cant. So I will be rooting and putting a custom ROM on one of these if I get it in the hopes that at least some of that is fixed or addressed.
the P4s have fixed the ram issue but they have tiny batteries...I cant deal with a phone with a small battery so the 4 is basically right out.
So I guess the basic question here is does running a custom ROM on the P3 fix the ram problem the phone has, do I keep the great camera AI with those custom ROMS and is the P3 an easy phone to root and ROM?
This sort of goes got both the XL and the smaller P3 because I would at least think they would be similar in these regards. and I may be leaning towards a smaller, lighter phone this time around.
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Hey, I would recommend going with one of the newer Samsung budget phones such as the A10, great phone, Android 10, rootable on XDA and most of all, supports Treble VNDK 29 and System-As-Root or A/B.
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Hey, I would recommend going with one of the newer Samsung budget phones such as the A10, great phone, Android 10, rootable on XDA and most of all, supports Treble VNDK 29 and System-As-Root or A/B.
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The point wasnt looking for another phone it was trying to stay with the pixel but make the experience more to my liking and to smooth out some of the flaws the phone has.
Also the camera is obviously pretty important to me since I have kept a phone that I more or less hate for the better part of 2 years just because the camera is so good and so much better then the competition. I just dont see any way any budget phone offering will have even close to satisfactory camera performance for me. Most flagship phones dont, if one did I would have ditched this thing long ago. I have finally gotten to a point where I will give up a little bit of camera performance for a better user experience, because I just cant deal with it anymore, but I still need something thats relativity close.
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The point wasnt looking for another phone it was trying to stay with the pixel but make the experience more to my liking and to smooth out some of the flaws the phone has.
Also the camera is obviously pretty important to me since I have kept a phone that I more or less hate for the better part of 2 years just because the camera is so good and so much better then the competition. I just dont see any way any budget phone offering will have even close to satisfactory camera performance for me. Most flagship phones dont, if one did I would have ditched this thing long ago. I have finally gotten to a point where I will give up a little bit of camera performance for a better user experience, because I just cant deal with it anymore, but I still need something thats relativity close.
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You can install One UI 2 apps if you want to. I have all the apps that One UI 2 uses. I would gladly give them if you need 'em
loki993 said:
The point wasnt looking for another phone it was trying to stay with the pixel but make the experience more to my liking and to smooth out some of the flaws the phone has.
Also the camera is obviously pretty important to me since I have kept a phone that I more or less hate for the better part of 2 years just because the camera is so good and so much better then the competition. I just dont see any way any budget phone offering will have even close to satisfactory camera performance for me. Most flagship phones dont, if one did I would have ditched this thing long ago. I have finally gotten to a point where I will give up a little bit of camera performance for a better user experience, because I just cant deal with it anymore, but I still need something thats relativity close.
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Just wait until at least August 3rd mate, I know you said flagships do not stand up to your expectations and how would mid-range phones. Apparently the Pixel 4a will have 6GB of ram, Pixel quality camera and processor/battery combo which may be good. However, you may be think around 3000mAh may not be much and yeah it is not but for a low gpu chip(only matters for games) it may be enough. But but but...... if you can hold on a longer than that too then the rest of Google's 2020 lineup soon. Their batteries will likely be bigger and ram should be at least 6GB. If you really really, want one of the current Pixel's alright, I do not see a ram issue in present day on my Pixel 3 XL which also lasts me around 5hrs with 20%ish left. I do not know what your use case, but if you are concerned about ram get a Pixel 4 XL which does have a larger battery, yeah and more ram.
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Oh, a final mention: yes the Pixel line is simple to unlock the bootloader of. Though, if you wanna root or run a kernel all of that will have to be done on the computer starting with the Pixel 3s(for now). If you really want a smaller phone though word of advice, just wait at least until August 3rd, the device will have more ram than the Pixel 3 and more battery capacity than the Pixel 3 & Pixel 4.
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Just wait until at least August 3rd mate, I know you said flagships do not stand up to your expectations and how would mid-range phones. Apparently the Pixel 4a will have 6GB of ram, Pixel quality camera and processor/battery combo which may be good. However, you may be think around 3000mAh may not be much and yeah it is not but for a low gpu chip(only matters for games) it may be enough. But but but...... if you can hold on a longer than that too then the rest of Google's 2020 lineup soon. Their batteries will likely be bigger and ram should be at least 6GB. If you really really, want one of the current Pixel's alright, I do not see a ram issue in present day on my Pixel 3 XL which also lasts me around 5hrs with 20%ish left. I do not know what your use case, but if you are concerned about ram get a Pixel 4 XL which does have a larger battery, yeah and more ram.
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Oh, a final mention: yes the Pixel line is simple to unlock the bootloader of. Though, if you wanna root or run a kernel all of that will have to be done on the computer starting with the Pixel 3s(for now). If you really want a smaller phone though word of advice, just wait at least until August 3rd, the device will have more ram than the Pixel 3 and more battery capacity than the Pixel 3 & Pixel 4.
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Yeah, Ive been considering it. Usually I wouldn't consider a phone with a midrange processor, but to get what I want I will have to sacrifice something. I actually like that the A series is made out of plastic, I hate heavy phones, I also hate cases...plastic is light and its durable. I was actually looking at the s10e because its a light phone. the only reason I balk at that one is because of potential battery life issues. That said I dont know it would be any worse than by P2 which is adequate for me.
But yeah, if I could get past the processor the 4a probably makes a lot of sense and at least I can see if the problem I have with my current phone is because of the phone itself or Google. The whole Pixel transition just sort of irks me because I was basically a hardcore nexus fan and they just totally killed it for pixel. I see the A phones as nexus successors, but I still feel like Google cuts too many corners with the A phones. I mean I dont know how much processors cost but its sort of hard for me to believe with with all the other places Google cut costs with the A phones they couldn't figure out how to get an 8 series processor in the phone. Maybe this year would be different considering how expensive everyone claims the 865 is but shouldn't 855s be dirt cheap by now? There are near budget class phones with 855s in them right now. so thats my major gripe with the A series.
As for the 5 thats less of a sell for me. All the rumors have that phone with a midrange processor as well and I just dont see it differentiating itself from the 4a all that much, especially for the extra money its going to cost.