Disable fingerprint--screen off function? - Moto Z Play Questions & Answers

Does anyone know how to disable the function where touching the fingerprint button turns off the screen? Or is there a custom thing to flash that includes that fix?

Out of curiosity why do you want to turn it off?

nuserame said:
Does anyone know how to disable the function where touching the fingerprint button turns off the screen? Or is there a custom thing to flash that includes that fix?
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Here in XDA apps look for fingerprint quick actions or fingerprint gestures. And in play store you will find fingerprint scanner tools.

Seeing this made me realize apps which use the fingerprint scanner for authentication and such won't work properly, which concerns me as I plan to get one soon. I'll keep an eye out for this.

lpchaim said:
Seeing this made me realize apps which use the fingerprint scanner for authentication and such won't work properly, which concerns me as I plan to get one soon. I'll keep an eye out for this.
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@metalmike6, this is the reason it concerns me.

authentication works just fine in apps. It won't activate the screen off function in apps that use the fingerprint scanner.

gusoldier said:
authentication works just fine in apps. It won't activate the screen off function in apps that use the fingerprint scanner.
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Thanks, good to know. Does it also work with apps such as Fingerprint Quick Actions, which are presumably active all the time?

lpchaim said:
Thanks, good to know. Does it also work with apps such as Fingerprint Quick Actions, which are presumably active all the time?
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Yes that app works just fine. It also get disabled when you're in an app that uses the fingerprint scanner.

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NFC LockScreenOff Enabler-like functionality in Lollipop

I was using NFC LockScreenOff Enabler on my Nexus 5 until the screen hardware died on me. Google is currently sending me a new one. I was MultiROM'ing Lollipop and tried the smart NFC unlock feature, but I didn't like it because you had to turn the screen on, hold the NFC tag, and swipe a swipe-to-unlock screen.
I have an NFC implant so i want the functionality just like NFC LockScreenOff Enabler. NFC polling with screen off, hold phone up to my hand, phone unlocks straight to home screen.
Is there a working solution for lollipop?
dimex said:
I was using NFC LockScreenOff Enabler on my Nexus 5 until the screen hardware died on me. Google is currently sending me a new one. I was MultiROM'ing Lollipop and tried the smart NFC unlock feature, but I didn't like it because you had to turn the screen on, hold the NFC tag, and swipe a swipe-to-unlock screen.
I have an NFC implant so i want the functionality just like NFC LockScreenOff Enabler. NFC polling with screen off, hold phone up to my hand, phone unlocks straight to home screen.
Is there a working solution for lollipop?
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not currently, however there are several non stock lock screens that have this feature such as:
Tap Unlock or Uber Device lock
mbloomer04 said:
not currently, however there are several non stock lock screens that have this feature such as:
Tap Unlock or Uber Device lock
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They're both ugly and not reliable, IMO. I couldn't even get Uber to work and sent the dev an email. He was a ****ing jerk and basically said I'm dumb and didn't enable the app. Come on.
I wonder if there's a way to use Tasker to bypass the swipe screen after touching the phone to NFC. I don't mind placing the phone on my implant and pressing the power button. Having to then swipe another screen requires weird hand acrobatics when using an implant, which is why I'm still on 4.4.4.
dimex said:
They're both ugly and not reliable, IMO. I couldn't even get Uber to work and sent the dev an email. He was a ****ing jerk and basically said I'm dumb and didn't enable the app. Come on.
I wonder if there's a way to use Tasker to bypass the swipe screen after touching the phone to NFC. I don't mind placing the phone on my implant and pressing the power button. Having to then swipe another screen requires weird hand acrobatics when using an implant, which is why I'm still on 4.4.4.
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using the secure settings and locale plugins it is possible to make a profile that disables lock screen on a specific nfc tag read and then reanables lockscreen when the screen goes off
mbloomer04 said:
using the secure settings and locale plugins it is possible to make a profile that disables lock screen on a specific nfc tag read and then reanables lockscreen when the screen goes off
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Any guide on this?
Neurom707 said:
Any guide on this?
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dimex said:
I wonder if there's a way to use Tasker to bypass the swipe screen after touching the phone to NFC. .
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guide link removed due to error
mbloomer04 said:
yup, I just made one for you here Guide
sorry for the delay
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Not going to work. NFC polling in stock Lollipop is Screen On, Unlocked. We need to enable alternate polling modes to even be able to read the NFC tag. Go ahead and try it, your phone won't even read your NFC tag, let alone disengage the keyguard. Even if you got rid of the keyguard, you still have the Pattern Unlock, or PIN, or password. You need Secure Settings plugin within Tasker to remove those.
The only ROM for the Nexus 5 at the moment with different NFC polling options is Cataclysm. I tried extracting the NfcNci.apk after I changed the settings, but the settings didn't stick around when I brought it to stock ROM. I'm guessing you have to go in and manually add the settings or change the polling code within the apk, but I don't know how to decompile and edit code.
If you know how to do that, that's all we need; a modified NfcNci.apk with Screen Off, Locked polling mode. It's located in system/app.
Your guide is useless as it stands, just being honest.
dimex said:
Not going to work. NFC polling in stock Lollipop is Screen On, Unlocked. We need to enable alternate polling modes to even be able to read the NFC tag. Go ahead and try it, your phone won't even read your NFC tag, let alone disengage the keyguard. Even if you got rid of the keyguard, you still have the Pattern Unlock, or PIN, or password. You need Secure Settings plugin within Tasker to remove those.
The only ROM for the Nexus 5 at the moment with different NFC polling options is Cataclysm. I tried extracting the NfcNci.apk after I changed the settings, but the settings didn't stick around when I brought it to stock ROM. I'm guessing you have to go in and manually add the settings or change the polling code within the apk, but I don't know how to decompile and edit code.
If you know how to do that, that's all we need; a modified NfcNci.apk with Screen Off, Locked polling mode. It's located in system/app.
Your guide is useless as it stands, just being honest.
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Damned hubris! good call, tested and it worked fine on 4.4.4 :/ . hmmm will edit the guide to mention it wont work on Android 5
Thanks for the heads up and my apologies
"Even if you got rid of the keyguard, you still have the Pattern Unlock, or PIN, or password. You need Secure Settings plugin within Tasker to remove those."
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The tasker profile above worked fine with a pattern set, scan the tag the lockscreen disapears till you turn off your screen, I tested it with secure settings and could see no benefit to also having it disable you password etc as the lack of keyguard meant you were never prompted for it
but aye a different polling method is needed
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dimex said:
Your guide is useless as it stands, just being honest.
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Aye, have requested the thread be removed as it'll only work with nfc lockscreenoff... and that in itself removes the need for this
thanks for the heads up, rookie error on my part there
mbloomer04 said:
Aye, have requested the thread be removed as it'll only work with nfc lockscreenoff... and that in itself removes the need for this
thanks for the heads up, rookie error on my part there
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All good. We just need someone who knows what's up to modify NfcNci.apk for us. I just started the semester and can't devote time to it right now.
dimex said:
All good. We just need someone who knows what's up to modify NfcNci.apk for us. I just started the semester and can't devote time to it right now.
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Even if it has been a while, this might be useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59780557&postcount=469
There is also a step-by-step guide on how to mod it yourself, a few pages later, and a guide for NFC with screen on but locked. I tried it on 5.1 (Xperia S, nAOSP), worked like a charm.

Is the Fingerprint Scanner perminantly ON?

Hi Guys,
I'm thinking about buying this phone for a friend and need to understand how the fingerprint scanner works.
On my One Plus 3, the scanner is ON all the time which makes it awesome, (but probably eats battery.) :victory:
On my Galaxy Tab S2, you have to press the scanner to turn it on first, which makes the whole process much worse.
Is the scanner on the P2 always ON, (like the One Plus 3,) or does it require a press to wake it up? (like on Samsung devices.)
Thanks in advance. :highfive:
The scanner is always on.. you don't need to wake the phone to use it.. the battery drain is minimal
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Uibon said:
The scanner is always on.. you don't need to wake the phone to use it.. the battery drain is minimal
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Thanks Uibon. :highfive:
Is it a physical button? i.e. presses in, or is it just purely capacitive?
My Samsung also has an issue where if you lock the screen using an app, (Power Toggles,) you can't unlock the phone with your fingerprint. Any idea if the P2 suffers the same issue?
It's both. The fingerprint sensor is capacitive and works by just placing one's finger on it. There are also many gestures that work on the capacitive sensor like tap to go back long press to view recent apps. The button is also physical pressing it brings you to home screen and long press brings up Google assistant
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Uibon said:
It's both. The fingerprint sensor is capacitive and works by just placing one's finger on it. There are also many gestures that work on the capacitive sensor like tap to go back long press to view recent apps. The button is also physical pressing it brings you to home screen and long press brings up Google assistant
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Ok Uibon,
So to unlock the phone, do you just place your finger on the sensor (without pressing it down,) or do you have to press it down as well? I ask this as on my Tab S2, having to press down also results in many incorrect reads.
Its a pity Lenovo didn't put a lock screen gesture in the fingerprint scanner like One Plus. It by far the best system I've ever used. :angel:
It works like the fingerprint on the OnePlus.. just place the finger to make it work no pressing the button necessary.
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Uibon said:
It works like the fingerprint on the OnePlus.. just place the finger to make it work no pressing the button necessary.
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Excellent Uibon, :victory:
Just need to sort out now the issue of using an app to lock the screen and understand if this takes away the ability to unlock next time with the fingerprint.
Masteryates said:
Excellent Uibon, :victory:
Just need to sort out now the issue of using an app to lock the screen and understand if this takes away the ability to unlock next time with the fingerprint.
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Just tried screen lock widget and it requires pin to unlock after using it. Finger does not work.
I am using nova prime and double tap to sleep and i can wake from finger print sensor iff you use timeout lockscreen method which means after you double tap the screen to lock the it screen goes black instantlly but the actual full screen lock engages after 30sec allowing the phone to screen to be locked through its own system hence the fingerprint wake works normal. I am not aware of other launchers that have this but nova prime has it.
Masteryates said:
Excellent Uibon, :victory:
Just need to sort out now the issue of using an app to lock the screen and understand if this takes away the ability to unlock next time with the fingerprint.
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That's an Android security limitation and all phones do that I believe. I think some apps can "trick" the phone by turning the screen off and let the timeout do the locking but I'm not sure.
If you have root access then they'll work. Else they won't. It's a security feature and uses device admin rights to lock the phone. Which means the device admin should unlock it by the most secure way. That's​ pin password or pattern.
It's not device specific and hence it's nothing to blame Lenovo
dannejanne said:
That's an Android security limitation and all phones do that I believe. I think some apps can "trick" the phone by turning the screen off and let the timeout do the locking but I'm not sure.
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You are correct dannejanne. Some OEM's have realised how stupid it is and have sorted it out.
On the One Plus 3, you can securely unlock the phone and relock all with one finger while your phone is on your desk. You can do this better and faster than any other phone. As it's something you do so many times a day, it's time for the other OEM's to blatantly copy this.

Fingerprint screen unlock

Hi.
I'm new user of LGG6. Previous i was on Nexus devices.
Is there any way so set unlocking with fingerprint ONLY? So, without additioanl pattern, PIN or smth.?
Thank you!
I found that second security is needed only first time, after device boot if you use fingerprint screen unlock.
But, if I use DT2W unclok method I have to use PIN,/pattern ...
So, any way to remove that, BUT keep fingerprint unlock?
(i know i can remove screen lock method, but than fingerprint is automaticly removd too)
I removed this kind of protection on my Nexus, but it requires root.
Just add a trusted location etc then it will unlock with no passcode and fingerprint only.
akulp said:
I found that second security is needed only first time, after device boot if you use fingerprint screen unlock.
But, if I use DT2W unclok method I have to use PIN,/pattern ...
So, any way to remove that, BUT keep fingerprint unlock?
(i know i can remove screen lock method, but than fingerprint is automaticly removd too)
I removed this kind of protection on my Nexus, but it requires root.
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Are you locking the phone using an app (like Nova Launcher) to double-tap to lock/sleep? if yes, then double tap the status bar to sleep. then you can wake the phone using fingerprint only.
basicreece said:
Just add a trusted location etc then it will unlock with no passcode and fingerprint only.
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Ok, this is partial solution ... Just for added locations.
Thnaky anyway.
akulp said:
Ok, this is partial solution ... Just for added locations.
Thnaky anyway.
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Also add a trusted device like a BT watch or I'm sure there is a always on you option. Detects when you have phone with you.
HKSpeed said:
Are you locking the phone using an app (like Nova Launcher) to double-tap to lock/sleep? if yes, then double tap the status bar to sleep. then you can wake the phone using fingerprint only.
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Yap, I'm using NL.
Thanks! Nice solution, but it 'll be hard to get used to use just status bar to lock.
The best solution is this one, but it only works if you are rooted (+twrp) and i'm not sure if last root method allow to chainging files on /system partition:
Then while still in TWRP go delete /data/system/locksettings.db
This should let you swipe to unlock your phone. Your fingerprints will still be saved and can be used once you set up a secure lock screen
Beside I would like to stay without root if it's not necessary.
basicreece said:
Also add a trusted device like a BT watch or I'm sure there is a always on you option. Detects when you have phone with you.
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I don't use BT watch, any device ... All I can set is home/work location and CAR BT.
I dont' see any other usefull option for me.
akulp said:
I don't use BT watch, any device ... All I can set is home/work location and CAR BT.
I dont' see any other usefull option for me.
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"On body Detection"
basicreece said:
"On body Detection"
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Ok, now I set "on body detection" ... but. That kind of smart locking only works if you don't lock phone with duble tap (over Nova launcher in my case) nut you leave phone to lock after time.
So this is usefull only if I don't lock with double tap. But I like that option and I'm using it all the time.
Thanks anyway for your time and tips.

Verify your identity prompt on all banking apps

Whenever I open my banking app I get a fingerprint prompt the screen goes dark and asks you to use your fingerprint to verify your identity it's really annoying and I've tried but can't find a way to remove it, it never happened on my note 8!
Turn off finger print then.
On some apps the fingerprint screen will pop up and darken the screen so it can show the information about the finger print scanning
do you use facial recognition? with my Note 9 due to Iris scan it basically let me in unlocking that way as it is secure, but with facial recognition on the Note 10 I was having trouble getting to use Google Pay and other secure apps, requiring extra security in the form of fingerprint or pin, I'm guessing due to the removal of Iris scan (my biggest disappointment) you need to either use fingerprint or the pin if you want to use secure stuff.
Are you running your app within the secure folder? Maybe that's verifying you before running the app?
Banking apps always require some autentication when accesing, as per security reasons, they log you out every time you leave the app
xile6 said:
Turn off finger print then.
On some apps the fingerprint screen will pop up and darken the screen so it can show the information about the finger print scanning
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I've tried turn it on and off also tried deleting the fingerprint and re scanning them still nothing
Belimawr said:
do you use facial recognition? with my Note 9 due to Iris scan it basically let me in unlocking that way as it is secure, but with facial recognition on the Note 10 I was having trouble getting to use Google Pay and other secure apps, requiring extra security in the form of fingerprint or pin, I'm guessing due to the removal of Iris scan (my biggest disappointment) you need to either use fingerprint or the pin if you want to use secure stuff.
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Noni don't only fps
papashex said:
Are you running your app within the secure folder? Maybe that's verifying you before running the app?
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No I'm not I did also try through secure folder had same problem
winol said:
Banking apps always require some autentication when accesing, as per security reasons, they log you out every time you leave the app
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I'm aware of this but it doesn't explain or fix the prompt
fhads2122 said:
I'm aware of this but it doesn't explain or fix the prompt
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my banking app has the option to turn it off in the app
jerrycoffman45 said:
my banking app has the option to turn it off in the app
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Yeah so does mine
fhads2122 said:
Yeah so does mine
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Not understanding.
If you want the fingerprint prompt off. Then turn off finger print in your bank app.
Also is it a finger print login or samsung pass login?
xile6 said:
Not understanding.
If you want the fingerprint prompt off. Then turn off finger print in your bank app.
Also is it a finger print login or samsung pass login?
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I do understand but I want my fps on but without the prompt like I said I never had this issue with my banking apps on my note 8
It's a finger print log in from the banking app
I think they are having the same issue I am with one of my apps. The app allows for fingerprint verification, however the setup requires you to type in your password, however in I can't do that as the fingerprint overlay is full screen abs I cannot enter my password.
What I would like is just a spot on the screen that says here put your finger here.... not a whole screen dedicated to the process.

Question Gesture "activation on lift up" is always active

Hi all,
I got my Pixel this week and it's great so far. I got an issue with the deactivation of the gesture "activate display on lift up" (could be different in english because it's in German for me). If I deactivate this setting, the gesture just gets deactivated for a few screen-off screen-on cycles. In the settings it's still deactivated but in real life the pixel activates again if I lift it up. Does anybody knows a fix?
adb shell settings put secure doze_quick_pickup_gesture 0
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adb shell settings put secure doze_quick_pickup_gesture 0
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Thx, this works! Do you know why it isn't possible via GUI? Is it a known bug?
daniel.1983 said:
Thx, this works! Do you know why it isn't possible via GUI? Is it a known bug?
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It's related to fingerprint unlocking. If you didn't use fingerprint unlocking then it would act "normal" and the screen wouldn't turn on when phone is touched or lifted (assuming you have lift to wake disabled). It "appears" to be a feature that Google implemented to make if faster or easier to unlock your phone. Most users see it as a bug
Lughnasadh said:
It's related to fingerprint unlocking. If you didn't use fingerprint unlocking then it would act "normal" and the screen wouldn't turn on when phone is touched or lifted (assuming you have lift to wake disabled). It "appears" to be a feature that Google implemented to make if faster or easier to unlock your phone. Most users see it as a bug
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It is a bug from what I can tell.
The lift to wake toggle in gestures doesn't do anything being on/off, it's always on when it shouldn't.
Tap to check toggle works as intended.
Fingerprint being on or off shouldn't make the toggle work or not, my other FoD devices the lift to wake toggle work as intended.
Probably another half-done crap Google left behind.
edit: also after using the adb command, the toggle seems to work as intended from then on. Funky
eng.stk said:
It is a bug from what I can tell.
The lift to wake toggle in gestures doesn't do anything being on/off, it's always on when it shouldn't.
Tap to check toggle works as intended.
Fingerprint being on or off shouldn't make the toggle work or not, my other FoD devices the lift to wake toggle work as intended.
Probably another half-done crap Google left behind.
edit: also after using the adb command, the toggle seems to work as intended from then on. Funky
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Apparently someone on Reddit had a Google chat with Google about this and they told them that this was intended as part of the fingerprint unlocking system. That's why I said Google probably views it as a feature, but most users view it as a bug.
I personally use the adb command to make it work as "we" think it should, not how Google thinks it should.
Lughnasadh said:
Apparently someone on Reddit had a Google chat with Google about this and they told them that this was intended as part of the fingerprint unlocking system. That's why I said Google probably views it as a feature, but most users view it as a bug.
I personally use the adb command to make it work as "we" think it should, not how Google thinks it should.
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If that really happened, is just nonsense. Toggle is there to be used.
It works in my other several devices, FoD or not. It works after the adb command issued on my oriole (toggle state works as intended I mean).
The amount of broken stuff on raviole devices is just ridiculous by now.
Also the radio stack on the device is the worst I ever seen.
eng.stk said:
If that really happened, is just nonsense. Toggle is there to be used.
It works in my other several devices, FoD or not. It works after the adb command issued on my oriole (toggle state works as intended I mean).
The amount of broken stuff on raviole devices is just ridiculous by now.
Also the radio stack on the device is the worst I ever seen.
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You're preaching to the choir

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