NA (North America) Pixel's tech specs show it supports plenty of frequencies, including LTE bands 1, 3, 7, 20 which are the most common ones for LTE in EU (Europe). Despite of that, I found here opinions of this device not working in EU for LTE (unfortunately without explanation or references). So I am confused. Does anyone know more / have experience?
Because not all European carriers have all frequences working in all areas, so it may have issues with some carriers.
jerryhou85 said:
Because not all European carriers have all frequences working in all areas, so it may have issues with some carriers.
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Well... thank you for the reply... but... isn't it obvious, that phones will not work in areas with no coverage? I ques I just understand you wrong...
sirda said:
Well... thank you for the reply... but... isn't it obvious, that phones will not work in areas with no coverage? I ques I just understand you wrong...
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I have the similar question as well: we have same situation in China, some carrier has some bands and the others have the rest. I just ordered one days ago and will test it myself...
jerryhou85 said:
I have the similar question as well: we have same situation in China, some carrier has some bands and the others have the rest. I just ordered one days ago and will test it myself...
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I think you won't have any problems as long as you get the RoW (rest of the world) version. I want a phone I can use in North America and in Europe as well...
http://willmyphonework.net not sure if this will help because it doesn't really differentiate NA version from ROW, but I just put in Denmark and it said the Pixel XL would work with most carriers in Denmark.
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sirda said:
I think you won't have any problems as long as you get the RoW (rest of the world) version. I want a phone I can use in North America and in Europe as well...
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I've got the one from US Play Store, I suppose it is US version.
It seems work with most carriers in China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Use the above to see if (or which) carriers in your most visited destinations use the bands that the US Pixel supports.
pTeronaut said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Use the above to see if (or which) carriers in your most visited destinations use the bands that the US Pixel supports.
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Thank you. I found out I need LTE frequencies 1, 3, 7, 20. NA Pixel lists all of them in tech specs. It means it will work? Is it really so easy to find out?
jerryhou85 said:
I've got the one from US Play Store, I suppose it is US version.
It seems work with most carriers in China.
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There are only 3 different pixel builds. Verizon, Europe and rest of world. You would have purchased rest of world from USA google play.
robber said:
There are only 3 different pixel builds. Verizon, Europe and rest of world. You would have purchased rest of world from USA google play.
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It is not EU and the rest of world. It is US and the rest of world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_(smartphone)
And it seems to me like the US version will work with majority of European carriers, even with EU LTE networks (since supporting bands # 3, 7 & 20).
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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I have got the US version but as we all know the software sucks and my device actually has an pixel error so I will need to send it back anyway (efox).
What if I request a CN replacement device? What are the differences? I read that you can only choose between english and chinese language but that wouldn't be a problem.
Would I be happy with the software too?
For one, the frequency bands are different. The US version was made to work with North American networks. So depending on where you live, the Chinese version might not work with your country's carriers.
I'm referring specifically to the 4G Lte bands. If you bought the Chinese version to use in North America, you'd likely only get 3G coverage. And with many carriers soon to be going exclusively 4G, your phone will soon be useless.
GoldLeeco2 said:
For one, the frequency bands are different. The US version was made to work with North American networks. So depending on where you live, the Chinese version might not work with your country's carriers.
I'm referring specifically to the 4G Lte bands. If you bought the Chinese version to use in North America, you'd likely only get 3G coverage. Since many carriers are moving towards 4G only, your phone will soon be useless.
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Thanks for your helpful reply but 4G only? Never heard of that. Sounds scary.
Does anyone actually try to put MM 16s to our US version? I know that LP cause hard brick but what will happen with official 16s rom?
Is there any differences with bootloader or something else on hardware bases?
I can't try this because my le one pro is my main phone.
Hi there,
Looking at Google Pixels page one can see that there is two versions of the product: NA and RoW.
Question is: is there any chance of buying a RoW version in US? Has anyone ever managed to buy the past Nexus International Versions in US before?
Thanks all and regards
Took me a few seconds to figure out what RoW means. I'd like to know this too.
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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mazroui said:
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.
Abra_Cadabra said:
Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.
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To my understanding of supported LTE, UMTS, and GSM frequencies both Pixel Variants will work in UAE but Carrier Aggregation will probably not work. Not sure if the operators in the UAE support CA (yet) but if/ when they do this will probably something that wouldn't work on the NA variant. The only combination supported by the device for UAE bands is B7+B7, which may or may not work.
Whether this is a deal breaker or not is up to you to decide.
Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
mazroui said:
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
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pauleandro said:
Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
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Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).
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Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).
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Of course, no problem. I'll let you know if I find anything.
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I am also looking at this and cannot understand the CA limitations on the US device. Unless I am mistaken the Snapdragon X12 modem supports all combinations of supported frequencies. Yet the phones have different combinations for some reason. I do not know if Google is limiting this via software. Any thoughts?
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Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?
Lots of overlap
There appears to be quite significant overlap, with the NA version supporting all or almost all LTE bands in most European countries and in many non-European countries as well (including all LTE bands in UAE):
NA version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/GPQkJ/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-td-lte-na-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
RoW version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/vWPw8/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-global-td-lte-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
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Hmm... just noticed that a few European countries that FrequencyCheck lists the NA version as having only partial LTE coverage for are because the site considers the NA version not to support band 8. But, according to Google's own spec page (madeby.google.com/phone/specs/ > Telephony), both the NA and RoW versions support B8. No idea if FrequencyCheck is a generally reliable source of info, as I just discovered the site a few minutes ago. I hope Google's listing for their own phone is correct, but the fact that B8 isn't included anywhere in the LTE 2xCA and 3xCA breakdowns for the NA version as it is for the RoW version makes me wonder...
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Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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sirda said:
How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?
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Yes, the main European LTE bands are 3, 7 and 20, so it doesn't matter which version you have as both support all these bands. scandalousk is wrong.
Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)
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Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)
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It'll support LTE, but won't support LTE Carrier Aggregation. LTE-Advanced is more than just Carrier Aggregation.
It does exist a Global model for mi6?
A global ROM hast he band 20?
Not at this time. Perhaps in future but it's unlikely as they reveal MI6 for taiwan and it wasn't a global version.
Absalom34 said:
It does exist a Global model for mi6?
A global ROM hast he band 20?
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Yes it exist, but it doesn´t have B20. Only European charger and english box:
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...32810995086.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.Yl3jks
https://www.spemall.com/Xiaomi-Mi-6...ixels-Snapdragon-835-Octa-Core-2-45GHz_g.html
I got a global version direct from Xiaomi.....
Everything works just like a 'normal' phone. Google Assistant... Everything.
kolembo said:
I got a global version direct from Xiaomi.....
Everything works just like a 'normal' phone. Google Assistant... Everything.
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Do you mean that with a global ROOM you have got the 800 mhgz band?
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Do you mean that with a global ROOM you have got the 800 mhgz band?
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Read please.
Would band 4 work in the USA?
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kolembo said:
I got a global version direct from Xiaomi.....
Everything works just like a 'normal' phone. Google Assistant... Everything.
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Does the official global rom come with Google Play installed, or does it still need to be added?
Also, can you download and play movies from Google Play, or use the download feature on Netflix? Neither of those work on my Mi4C.
This is the only thing holding me back from ordering a Mi6. Really hoping that stuff works, since the Mi6 is not China-only like the Mi4C.
Enjoying it so far?
anyone know if this would work in the usa on gsm sais it supports band 4....http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Offi...-Mi-6-6GB-64GB-Smartphone---Black-379852.html
The global rom have all Google services.
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Does the official global rom come with Google Play installed, or does it still need to be added?
Also, can you download and play movies from Google Play, or use the download feature on Netflix? Neither of those work on my Mi4C.
This is the only thing holding me back from ordering a Mi6. Really hoping that stuff works, since the Mi6 is not China-only like the Mi4C.
Enjoying it so far?
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I now the answer,,, Global version means,, different modem and antenna.plus different charger etc. Global Rom means no B20, only multilanguajes an some different features
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no B20
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But does this actually matter if, for example, on EE in the UK you get 4g via other bands too... so would it actually make a difference?
Curious if anyone here has tried it on EE in the UK?
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But does this actually matter if, for example, on EE in the UK you get 4g via other bands too... so would it actually make a difference?
Curious if anyone here has tried it on EE in the UK?
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I believe EE doesn't use band 20, so it's golden.
I come from a Moto X 2014. I'm on three and I've had LTE coverage everywhere I went. Mind you, I'm in London and if I venture into the country I might not get LTE there, as band 20 is also used by three, possibly in less populated areas.
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I believe EE doesn't use band 20, so it's golden.
I come from a Moto X 2014. I'm on three and I've had LTE coverage everywhere I went. Mind you, I'm in London and if I venture into the country I might not get LTE there, as band 20 is also used by three, possibly in less populated areas.
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Hi, thanks... I hope so, I want to get one for my wife... This site says EE do use band 20, but not exclusively, so I don't know if it is a regional thing, different bands working in different areas or what. https://willmyphonework.net
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We know 1st gen Pixel has two version: NA and RoW(Rest of world) , but i found UK and AU store website which should be the "RoW version" has exactly the same radio band support as as US store version .
So this year Pixel 2 seems only have one version for all ? or is it just wrong info on the spec page? I'm confused.
It's the same version sold worldwide.
its good if it is, as then everyone gets all the bands so you can travel anywhere with the phone. seems only difference will be project-fi in the US using an esim.
It's cheaper for the to make only one version for everyone
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Yes, of course it's cheaper to make only one version, but so far no company managed to integrate support for 21 LTE bands and all possible carrier aggregation combinations used in US/EU/Asia.
Not even Apple (who like to save cost more than any other company I have dealt with).
It all results in extra antennas and radio front-end components that need extra space and cost extra money.
Congratulations to Google/Qualcomm/LG/HTC if they actually managed it this time
Last year I bought the US version which didn't work well with my China Telecom... I'm glad this year they only make one model to fit all...
Yep, one stop international device shopping is the best way to go...
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Yes, of course it's cheaper to make only one version, but so far no company managed to integrate support for 21 LTE bands and all possible carrier aggregation combinations used in US/EU/Asia.
Not even Apple (who like to save cost more than any other company I have dealt with).
It all results in extra antennas and radio front-end components that need extra space and cost extra money.
Congratulations to Google/Qualcomm/LG/HTC if they actually managed it this time
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The Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 has 43 International LTE bands including all the US ones
The OnePlus 5 does too
FMXP said:
The Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 has 43 International LTE bands including all the US ones
The OnePlus 5 does too
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Does it also support all possible carrier aggregation band pairings?
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Does it also support all possible carrier aggregation band pairings?
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okgnew said:
Yes, of course it's cheaper to make only one version, but so far no company managed to integrate support for 21 LTE bands and all possible carrier aggregation combinations used in US/EU/Asia.
Not even Apple (who like to save cost more than any other company I have dealt with).
It all results in extra antennas and radio front-end components that need extra space and cost extra money.
Congratulations to Google/Qualcomm/LG/HTC if they actually managed it this time
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The Pixel 2 XL supports 4G pretty much anywhere in the world.
Carrier-aggregation might be another story though, the USA and EU models might differ in what bands they can combine.
Google hasn't mentioned what bands are supported for C-A so we don't know yet. If anyone was thinking about getting the phone in the USA I'd hold of for just a bit until it's been clarified.
I live in Japan and was waiting for Pixel 2 for ages, was super disappointed that they are not only failing to sell this here, but didn't include the appropriate bands for Japan. Bands 1/3 will work and you'll just have **** coverage if you're in a basement or out in the country, which is good enough I guess for a tourist. I ended up buying last year's Pixel after waiting a year for the 2.
I just came across this today after digging for info on the Pixel v1 I just got. Not sure if I'll be more or less annoyed if I find out the Pixel 2 really does secretly support other bands.
Edit: Bands 19 & 21 are what I need to full coverage.
discoltk said:
I live in Japan and was waiting for Pixel 2 for ages, was super disappointed that they are not only failing to sell this here, but didn't include the appropriate bands for Japan. Bands 1/3 will work and you'll just have **** coverage if you're in a basement or out in the country, which is good enough I guess for a tourist. I ended up buying last year's Pixel after waiting a year for the 2.
I just came across this today after digging for info on the Pixel v1 I just got. Not sure if I'll be more or less annoyed if I find out the Pixel 2 really does secretly support other bands.
Edit: Bands 19 & 21 are what I need to full coverage.
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Usually I use this website to check for phone's coverage: http://willmyphonework.net/
jerryhou85 said:
Usually I use this website to check for phone's coverage: http://willmyphonework.net/
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Thanks - but I know what bands I need and I know what the Google reports the phone as having.
The issue is there's a dependency between what GCF reports and what Google claims.
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Thanks - but I know what bands I need and I know what the Google reports the phone as having.
The issue is there's a dependency between what GCF reports and what Google claims.
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You mean possibly Google has disabled some bands?
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You mean possibly Google has disabled some bands?
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Yes that seems to be a possibility. So, they may be able to be enabled with a different modem firmware if so, though I don't want to get back into the constantly fighting to keep my phone updated with unsupported software.
Sadly,they drop the LTE band39 support this year, Living in China , and this is one of the bands China Mobile use in my city. B3/B38/B40/B41 are the other bands China Mobile using. So it should be some coverage problem especially in tunnel or subway.
I live in Dubai and I know for a fact that the UK uses the same bands that we use here so I wouldn't have connectivity issues with LTE/5G.
Now, the Pixel 6 Pro is out of stock at the Google Store UK; so my question is if I buy from let's say Google Store Australia or US, are the supported bands the same or do they use different bands for different Pixel phones depending on the region its sold in?
No. Only the US, Japan, and Australia models support mmwave.
All models should support the same 4G and sub6 5G bands though.
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No. Only the US, Japan, and Australia models support mmwave.
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right, so a US Pixel 6 Pro would have connectivity issues in Dubai/UK or would it still work and get 5G signal?
No issues. Provided your carrier doesn't whitelist for 5G or use an unusual band, it should work fine.
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No issues. Provided your carrier doesn't whitelist for 5G or use an unusual band, it should work fine.
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Thanks a lot for the prompt reply! Cheers
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Thanks a lot for the prompt reply! Cheers
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5g volte and vowifi will not work in dubai, dont order the phone if you cant live without any of those
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5g volte and vowifi will not work in dubai, dont order the phone if you cant live without any of those
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it does have all the correct bands though, so maybe in the future google will unlock the phone to be used in all countries or maybe someone smart will figure it out on a rooted phone