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Anyone upgrading from Nexus 6P?

I'm really thinking about getting this phone, but would like to hear some opinions on people who made the switch from the Nexus 6P. Can anyone give some input on that? Thanks!

I have the nexus 6p and will be getting the htc 10 since I have always had an htc phone. Will keep the 6p though. Just waiting on the carbon gray htc 10 for verizon.

I did. Love the smaller size, much better build quality and feels a whole lot more solid. Sense is pretty nice too.

I want to try something new from my 6P although I really don't need to. At first I was considering the S7E, G5, and now the 10. Each phone has its pro's and con's... but the 10 seems to be the most enticing overall. The only thing that would make it perfect for me were if it were actually front facing speakers, OLED, and a little bigger screen size... but other than that, I think it'll be a great phone. Maybe I'll enjoy the smaller footprint.
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eneka said:
I did. Love the smaller size, much better build quality and feels a whole lot more solid. Sense is pretty nice too.
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I only got to listen to the speakers in a VZW store. How do they stack up to the 6P? Also, how is the screen brightness and contrast? I'm hoping the contrast is at least as good as the LG G5.

Bought my 6P early April, i returned it on the 12th just after the 10 was announced
what i liked?
Decent Screen,
Decent Battery life,
Dev support & software
Fast charging
Front facing speakers
camera? (good but no 1080*60 recording was a downfall)
Why i returned it?
Headset volume I listen to music via 24/7 the headphone jack dac was poor, the max volume was low( even while rooted with elemental x kernel, power amp etc)
Size, i had no issues holding it & got used to the size pretty fast coming from the 4'7 m7 however it felt uncomfortable in my pocket while sitting down, i was constantly checking to make sure it wasn't falling out.
Build. IT felt cheap for a metal phone, it didn't feel as soild as my m7, i was paranoid regarding the bending around the power button
Price, wasn't really competitive at the time of purchase £449 vs £513 for HTC 10

Always been a fan of HTC and I loved my M8 but the camera was horrible and battery life was meh.
Going from the Moto X Pure to the Nexus 6P felt like a big difference in overall quality. And then I got my hands on the HTC 10 and it completely blows the 6P out of the water in my personal opinion.

I switched from a Nexus 6P to the HTC 10 and definitely prefer the 10 overall. Like Diz said, the audio quality of the 10 is MUCH better than the 6P, in both Bluetooth and with headphones. The 6P really gets spanked by the 10 in this area.
The size of the 10 is much better for me. It's totally a personal preference, of course, but the 6P was just way too big for my hands.
Battery life has been fine for me so far. It gets me through a day without having to recharge. When I do recharge with the QuickCharge 3.0 charger, it charges fast! My 10 was at 34% battery the other night, I put it on the charger and it indicated the phone would be fully charged in 30 minutes. :good:
Build quality of the 10 feels great, it's a very nice, solid-feeling phone.
I've been fine with the Sense skin, even as a guy who prefers stock Android. I just hope HTC will do timely updates for this phone as time goes on.
Fingerprint scanner has worked fine for me. I think it's a tad slower than the one on the 6P, but nothing to fuss about, IMHO.
Overall, I personally haven't found any major issues with the 10. When I pre-ordered it, I wasn't sure if I'd prefer it to the 6P or not, but I'm glad I decided to give it a try. I really like the phone and have made it my daily driver, while my 6P will now be sitting on my desk as my emergency backup phone.

The screen color is a lot better than 6p. However I think the camera is better on 6p. When you are taking the pic on the 10 it looks great, but right as I click the button it seems like the still is not as great. Idk it's weird. But I prefer the size. I love the thinness of the 6p but it was too long for me. I prefer the HTC UI overall.

heylailaa said:
The screen color is a lot better than 6p. However I think the camera is better on 6p. When you are taking the pic on the 10 it looks great, but right as I click the button it seems like the still is not as great. Idk it's weird. But I prefer the size. I love the thinness of the 6p but it was too long for me. I prefer the HTC UI overall.
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The camera sensors are the same. HTC is just having trouble getting the exposure correct. Everything else is pretty solid. In the meantime, I'd recommend just using Pro mode to slightly tweaked the shots. You will get better pictures than the 6P guaranteed - f/1.8, OIS, and more manual control will make this the best camera on a mobile device yet. How so? The 6P wins a lot of contests already. As mentioned, the HTC 10 can only improve upon that.

I have both, basically the size of the 6P is what did it for me. Too huge... And I don't like amoled
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I have both and currently the 6P takes better pictures and this is after the HTC update.
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I also switched from a 6p. On the 6p I was having trouble with Bluetooth and the phone got really slow for whatever reason.. On top of that I prefer a smaller phone and the 4gb ram does make a difference. So far so good with the htc 10, the camera is pretty much the same. I wish they would update the quick settings but besides that it's a winner.
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Thanks for the input guys, hearing so many positive things. I think I will give it a try.

Ditto to everyone concerning the size. Much, much better everyday phone as it now actually fits in my pocket.
In terms of screen, I still prefer AMOLED to the LCD panel on the 10. Regardless, the 10's is still great.

I'm going to be a dissenting vote. I now have both and I think I'll be returning the 10. The size of the 6P was bugging me and I loved my M7 (I've kept it as a backup for the last several phones I've had) so I bit the bullet and preordered. Have had it for a few days now.
Now don't get me wrong, the 10 is a fantastic phone - every good thing that has been said about it is true. Build quality is amazing, camera is great, speedy, the boomsound is good, Sense is much better now, etc. However, there are a few things that are bugging me enough to return it.
1. Purely a matter of preference, but I like the AMOLED better than the LCD.
2. The green/amber only LED is annoying. I color code contacts so that I can tell who I have texts, etc. from without turning on the screen in meetings. Not an option with the 10.
3. Bluetooth issues with my car - unlike the four other phones I've had with this car, the 10 won't sync contacts. It will show the last several calls, but only as numbers, not names. Apparently this has been a problem with several HTCs and particularly German cars. I finally solved it, mostly, by installing the Google phone and contacts APKs from APK Mirror. Now the contacts appear, but there are random, weird duplicates. Must be something unique to the HTC dialer/people apps.
4. When I use voice typing over bluetooth, the audio in the car doesn't pause, unlike with 3 of the last four phones I've had.
5. Shockingly, I've gotten so used to the screen size of the 6P that the 5.2" screen seems unnaturally small! I'm sure I would get back used to it over time.
Most or all of these are personal preferences or things that are particular to my situation and are not meant as general criticisms of the phone.

I have both a 6P and a 10 and I like the 10 much more... Except for the performance. I expected it with the 820 and near stock android skin it would fly, but just going into settings and scrolling down all the way in one flick shows dropped frames etc. In apps ( Especially weather timeline) I see scrolling much smoother on the 6P. Really surprising. I'm thinking of returning the 10 and getting either the exynos S7 or LG G5 because I also had the G5 and that was hands down the fastest phone I've ever used.

I have an opportunity to buy a 6p 64gb silver for 390$ brand new but I also don't know because I kind of want the 10 :\

Izzy52 said:
I have both a 6P and a 10 and I like the 10 much more... Except for the performance. I expected it with the 820 and near stock android skin it would fly, but just going into settings and scrolling down all the way in one flick shows dropped frames etc. In apps ( Especially weather timeline) I see scrolling much smoother on the 6P. Really surprising. I'm thinking of returning the 10 and getting either the exynos S7 or LG G5 because I also had the G5 and that was hands down the fastest phone I've ever used.
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That's weird, you should try LeeDroid ROM.

Hmm have been using the 6p and now want to try the 10 simply because of the sd card slot. However am more concerned with the performance issue because the 6p is the smoothest phone I have ever used. Can anyone who made the switch please give an opinion on overall smoothness and scrolling please?

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Only had the phone 3 days, but it has the most cohesive feel of all the Android devices I've owned, not as featureless as my Nexus 7, not over the top like my older HTC/Samsung devices. Switched to Nova Launcher, then switched back to Pixel launcher because it felt a better fit.

I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
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I actually very much love this phone, I was expecting a lot to be hype, yet battery is good, cameras awesome see attached pics, and overall it's probably the best phone I owned in awhile, I was using an iPhone 5s, missed mu Android,. Operating system is fast and responsive and split screen multitasking is great especially with YouTube and chrome open

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I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
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Im sorry but the 6P does not have a better camera. Coming from a 6P as well i agree with some of your viewpoints but the camera isn't a valid arguement. While the 6P camera is good its not at the level of the pixel.

I've used android phones, I've used iPhones. If this is what Google has to offer with its first Pixel phone I'm excited for Pixel 2 already. The camera rocks, love the quality of photos, the UI is intuitive and fast. Opening apps feels instant for me at least no delay. Have yet to see the device slow down. Almost elliminates the need to shy away from stock one can be hopeful that Verizon doesn't end up blocking depixel8 otherwise I may end up unlocking the bootloader if I see they do.

I use an Android and iPhone handset concurrently for work-related reasons. The Pixel is great, and compares very favorably with the iPhone.
Battery: I used to run all intensive apps like Waze and streaming audio through the iPhone, now I don't fear running them on the Android.
App switching: You know when you're chatting with someone and you look something up to further your discussion along? The Overview button double-tap for switching back and forth is so great.
Fingerprint reader: Is faster than the iPhone 6.
You can probably get a nearly identical experience with a Xiaomi or Oneplus phone without spending $650+. I remember even seeing one of the new Xiaomi flagships featuring the same camera sensor. But I hoped that the Pixel being was it is, it'll be a more bug-free experience.

I bought this phone expecting to not like it and sell it in a few weeks. It doesn't have an sd card slot or a removable battery. That's a pretty big deal to me. But I got the 128gb and started allowing Google to back up my pics. I can go 16 hours on the battery with 4 hours SOT. That's exponentially better than my MXP or pretty much any other phone I've used. I have grandfathered unlimited on Verizon so my choices are slim if I want root. Everything about this phone works very well. It's super quick and feels good in the hand. Overall, I'm extremely pleased with it.
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I adore this phone. By far my favorite phone I've owned (S3, EVO 4G, EVO 4G LTE, HTC M8, Galaxy Note 5, Samsung Fireball, LG V20, LG V10). The experience has been unparalleled for me.

It's a great phone, but not worth the price tag that comes with it.

I would consider this to be the "photographer's phone." It has a great camera and amazing EIS. As well as unlimited original photo hosting on Google Photos.
Did I mention it has UNLIMITED, ORIGINAL photo hosting on Google Photos?
Don't get me wrong, there could be better cameras out there, but you just can't beat that perk of having a Pixel.

As a long time samsung owner, this device is a breath of fresh air. If it were more water resistant, and had wireless charging, it'd be a perfect 10.

what overall love for Power Users?
i searched little bit and it seems ok but i want to ask from real life power users?
ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods

So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.

Geeks Empire said:
what overall love for Power Users?
i searched little bit and it seems ok but i want to ask from real life power users?
ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods
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Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
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So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to look into Tasker.
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Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.
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Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.

JoeHockey said:
So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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There's an app for the twist camera. Made by the same guy who made ForceDoze.

tobalaz said:
Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.
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Battery life is much better than comparable Androids devices. I've never had such great battery life, honestly. Interestingly, I had an M8 for a year and did NOT get close to 3 days (not even 2). Coming from an LG V20, V10, Note 5 and Note 7 (and watching my wife's S7), this battery life is tremendous. I literally don't ever pay attention to battery anymore. I go to bed with 30-50% usually. I just charge overnight (why not?) to be safe.
But yes, the sound of M8 was unparalleled. Why they quit on that feature I'll never understand.

Overall I am pretty happy with the Pixel. I don't like large phones so i am glad Google offered a smaller version. I used to have the Nexus 5x (still do) but the Pixel has been lag free. Anyone who has been using Google's devices long enough knows the thing starts to lag and the only thing to get rid of it is to totally format every so often. This has been running great so far so I am happy.
One thing I hope Google does not do is eventually become like Samsung or Apple where they totally lock down the device. The price point was already bad enough, but if the attempt to become mainstream to the point where the phone cannot be customized I will be very unhappy.
If they want to sell their product as "Pure Android", that should include customization outside of their OWN OS. Locking things down is no better than Apple or Samsung.

6P vs Pixel XL

I have a ROM problem.... T-Mobil is giving a $325 rebate and wondering if worth the upgrade $$ ? Thoughts?

I like the 6p over the pixel in terms of build quality but pixel just slightly snappier but you'd be Happy​ with either one

One of my best friends has the 6P, and I have the Pixel XL. The pixel is a little faster than his 6P, but the screen is slightly smaller. He wants a pixel, but decided he would wait for the pixel 2 because 6P -> Pixel isn't that much of a jump.
basically, pixel is a little faster and ive noticed better speeds when connected to the same wifi network when streaming videos (honestly negligible difference). The camera on the pixel is way more detailed/
hope this helped.

I agree I have both the 6p and the Pixel XL and while the pixel is a little faster the 6p is no slouch. Now that I have both I'm amazed how smooth the 6p still is. If you can wait just wait for the 2. Either way, though you will be happy. Now if you want a better camera then the pixel definitely has that over the 6p.

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Meh... With that amount of credit I would go with the Pixel XL.
The camera is awesome.. The screen is great... Its the fastest Android phone I have owned.
I say go with Pixel XL

Just for the outstanding looking and ultra fast system I think Pixel wouldn't disappoint you.

What about developer support ? ROMs, TWRP, etc? I tend be bounce between Pure Nexus, Linage, etc.

Screen brightness is much brighter on Pixel if that matters. Especially after using Flars HBM mod.

I had to change when I jumped to verizon (long story). Really miss the 6P. Pixel XL is okay but doesn't feel as solid. Can't root the stupid Pixel XL either.

I have 6p and pixel xl, as you have read before, I feel the build quality on 6p is more premium and solid than the pixel, i miss the loud speakers, custom ROMs and mods varieties on 6p,
in contrast, pixel XL screen is brighter, system speed is smoother and snappier, the camera is awesome, and the best thing in pixel XL that it has a great battery life..
the worst thing in pixel XL that i dont feel it as a major update from 6p ( remember, we paid worth of 860$ for pixel xl)and I feel it will have a dark future in customizations and development which is the opposite in Nexus family..simple things like installing Roms and rooting are really pain in the neck... honestly...despite the advantages of pixel xl..im thinking to return back to 6p..
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tafo said:
I have 6p and pixel xl, as you have read before, I feel the build quality on 6p is more premium and solid than the pixel, i miss the loud speakers, custom ROMs and mods varieties on 6p,
in contrast, pixel XL screen is brighter, system speed is smoother and snappier, the camera is awesome, and the best thing in pixel XL that it has a great battery life..
the worst thing in pixel XL that i dont feel it as a major update from 6p ( remember, we paid worth of 860$ for pixel xl)and I feel it will have a dark future in customizations and development which is the opposite in Nexus family..simple things like installing Roms and rooting are really pain in the neck... honestly...despite the advantages of pixel xl..im thinking to return back to 6p..
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I've come from 6p also, Development does seem a little slow in comparison. I think it's mainly due to the high price of the unit for starters.
Then there's the new partition layout which has understandably slowed things down.
Also a lot of developers are posting their builds outside of XDA now.
Let's hope that things pick up here.

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I've come from 6p also, Development does seem a little slow in comparison. I think it's mainly due to the high price of the unit for starters.
Then there's the new partition layout which has understandably slowed things down.
Also a lot of developers are posting their builds outside of XDA now.
Let's hope that things pick up here.
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Absolutely bro...but I'm really shocked about Rom development are done outside xda!!
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I had to change when I jumped to verizon (long story). Really miss the 6P. Pixel XL is okay but doesn't feel as solid. Can't root the stupid Pixel XL either.
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What do you mean you cannot root the Pixel XL?
Is this because you have a verizon model with locked boot loader?

My experience has varied compared to some of these posts. I had the 6P and switched to the Pixel XL because of a problem with the noise cancelling mic on the 6P. (Google finally agreed to replace my 6P after I bought the Pixel)
I like the Pixel XL slightly more than the 6P. Not enough to switch if I didn't have an issue with the 6P. Both devices were smooth. I feel like the Pixel has a better build quality. The aluminum on the 6P seemed to dent easily and the buttons weren't very sturdy. Don't get me wrong, the 6P is a very sturdy phone but the Pixel seems to be sturdier. The screen on my 6P was brighter. The Pixel is hard to see in the sun whereas the 6P was not. The 6P has a 64GB option which is what the Pixel should have started at IMO. I had a 6P charging port go bad and had to get that replaced then the replacement had noise canceling mic problems (software issue on stock Android for the 6P) causing an echo for whomever I was talking to. This issue wasn't fixed after 3 security updates so Google replaced it. I haven't really used the replacement yet. The AMOLED screen on the 6P seemed to be affected by screen burn-in from the notification bar and navigation bar rather quickly (probably because it was brighter). Both have really good cameras but the Pixel's is better.
Besides that, the phones are pretty equivalent for everyday use. Both even handle intense use pretty well but the SD 810 in the 6P throttles the speeds regularly under heavy use when the ambient temperature is warm. I haven't experienced throttling on the Pixel.
I don't think upgrading from the 6P to the Pixel is worth it unless you can get the Pixel for the price of the 6P at the time you bought it. IMO, the big price difference isn't justified by the small performance difference.

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My experience has varied compared to some of these posts. I had the 6P and switched to the Pixel XL because of a problem with the noise cancelling mic on the 6P. (Google finally agreed to replace my 6P after I bought the Pixel)
I like the Pixel XL slightly more than the 6P. Not enough to switch if I didn't have an issue with the 6P. Both devices were smooth. I feel like the Pixel has a better build quality. The aluminum on the 6P seemed to dent easily and the buttons weren't very sturdy. Don't get me wrong, the 6P is a very sturdy phone but the Pixel seems to be sturdier. The screen on my 6P was brighter. The Pixel is hard to see in the sun whereas the 6P was not. The 6P has a 64GB option which is what the Pixel should have started at IMO. I had a 6P charging port go bad and had to get that replaced then the replacement had noise canceling mic problems (software issue on stock Android for the 6P) causing an echo for whomever I was talking to. This issue wasn't fixed after 3 security updates so Google replaced it. I haven't really used the replacement yet. The AMOLED screen on the 6P seemed to be affected by screen burn-in from the notification bar and navigation bar rather quickly (probably because it was brighter). Both have really good cameras but the Pixel's is better.
Besides that, the phones are pretty equivalent for everyday use. Both even handle intense use pretty well but the SD 810 in the 6P throttles the speeds regularly under heavy use when the ambient temperature is warm. I haven't experienced throttling on the Pixel.
I don't think upgrading from the 6P to the Pixel is worth it unless you can get the Pixel for the price of the 6P at the time you bought it. IMO, the big price difference isn't justified by the small performance difference.
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The main reason i shifted to pixel mainly because of current bad battery life of 6p, i bought a new pixel XL 128 gb for 700$ ( someone bought it and then he is broke so he needs money) its true that i bought it at a good price, but i still feel its expensive and not convinced worth of upgrade
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The main reason i shifted to pixel mainly because of current bad battery life of 6p, i bought a new pixel XL 128 gb for 700$ ( someone bought it and then he is broke so he needs money) its true that i bought it at a good price, but i still feel its expensive and not convinced worth of upgrade
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I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.

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I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.
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Thanks for the great info around this, with the tmobile rebate and selling my 6P it is 100 delta. Plus battery life and screen brightness is an issue for me during the day outside.
Cheers,
-RE

I had the 6P for 360 days, when it went into the famous bootloop. Just watched a video on youtube, and it suddenly rebooted, and never got out of it. I saw the warning screen, the google logo for 2 seconds, and puff, reboot, then warning, google logo 2 seconds, reboot.... ..... That was my 4th android phone, but the first one that just broke (even the first phone ever that broke). I loved it, I loved big phones, I loved that it was a nexus, it was thin, fast, and I almost cried when it became a brick. I was astonished, when i discovered, that i'm not the only one. Many people, talked on many forums about the same issue (or about the battery dying at 50%), there was no solution, but to return the phone. I will never buy a huawei again. Never....
I returned the phone, and got my money back (on the same day when the guarantee expired....), and I have put some more to it, and bought a 128GB pixel. Yes, the small one, because who the hell has 1100-1200 euros for a damn phone ? (and also because there was no 128GB pixel xl around at that time ).
Where do i start ? This little thing is better in every way, then the 6P or, any other phone I held, or used.
Speed: The 6P was fast, but the pixel is 10 times faster. Everything opens in a moment, even pages in chrome, I can scroll a still loading page. Try to open this xda page in chrome, and scroll a bit down, then back up. The 6P lagged like hell, but there is no lag in the pixel. Try to copy files from the 6P to the computer (i know, who cares, but this somewhat benchmarks the internal memory speed), I was jumping like a monkey when i first saw that I copy files with about 30-40MB/s from the 6P. I did a backup of the pixel and I copied with 140MB/s IN..F*CKING..SANE! No wonder it is faster in every day usage... Ok. Speed is done. It is just faster, no lag, no thinking, loading, nothing. Just does eveything in the blink of an eye. Really.
Sound: The 6P sounds like ****... (I know there is the stereo front facing speaker, but who listens to music on the phone's speaker?) I use headphones, and I listen to music through those. And the 6P was **** even with mods (viper, dolby, .....) The pixel has the same DAC (digital audio converter) like the HTC10, which was famous because of that. And boy, does it sound good. The same music, same headphones, same mods, and the difference is night and day! Eargasm
Build: Just the most premium feel on a phone until now. It is sturdy. A little bit thick, but feels like it can't be broken. That Jerry guy on youtube bent the 6P in half like a piece of paper, but he couldn't bend the pixel. Only a little bit, so the the glass started to shift away from the housing, but it went back to normal when he released it. You could see his fingers shake, and going all white while he tried to bend it. Really. It feels premium. The metal, the glass, I love to hold it.
Screen: Now this is something I don't know. I own the small pixel, which is 5" and "only" full HD, but I must say the colors are much more vivid and the brightness is higher than it was on the 6P. I love the little screen though... It may vary on the pixel xl....
Battery: My god! I never tought this is even possible The small pixel has a 2700MAh battery, a lot smaller then the 6P's but man! I am an extreme user. Not playing but listening to youtube, twitter, browsing, listening to music through a ****load of mods, using at least 2 cpu cores all the time, using the camera, bluetooth/wifi/sync always on, auto brightness set to 50%.... The 6P was great, because I came close to 3hours of screen on time. I loved this. It was my first phone that I only charged once a day. But it was always empty at the end of day. The pixel? Same apps, same usage, same protocol all day, and it has half the battery at the end of the day. I can almost use it for 2 days. Okay, 1.7 days I have reached 7hours of SOT. it is usually 4-5 hours, but in some cases I can even go beyond that. During the night it drops 1%, or not even that.
Processor: I was afraid of the SD810 when i bought the 6P. I read all the articles, but said "**** it! It can't be that bad!". But it is It is ****. If the 6P had the SD820, or 821, It would be on the same level as the pixel, but with that crap, it is worse in energy efficiency, and performance. (and everything...) The SD821 is lightyears away!
Camera: I loved the 6P, because it took very nice pictures, even in low light conditions. I'm not a photographer, I know almost nothing about it, but when I shot my first pixel photo, I have **** my pants It's just awesome. In the dark, in sunlight, the colors, the sharpness, the details, there can be shades, and total sunlight on the same photo... Oh yes, and people who might know some things about photography, said that it is the best camera on a smartphone
Some small things that come with it: I know, it is not a good point, because you can enable it on any phone now, and even before, but google assistant is awesome And there is the unlimited photo/video storage, in original quality. Or that the support for the 6P will end soon, but you win an additional year with the pixel, because it is newer. The VR readiness.. And many many small things...
I wanted to keep the 6P, and I was angry at google when they announced the pixel with these prices. But now, I wouldn't go back to the 6P.. Never. The pixel is worth the damn high price. It is awesome already because it is damn fast. I love to use it. Sometimes I just turn it on, and open something just for fun, and because "maybe this will be the first time I see a lag, or stuttering, or something other than opening it in a damn moment", but it never happens. It just does it without any problems.
By the way, the community is also great, you have the same ****, PureNexus, RR, mods, same kernels (franco, elementalx), everything like the 6P, but I'm getting old, and in my experience, stock is always better then the things that are stuffed with "extra settings". Especially now, that stock android has multiwindow, and many great features from old times. I am only rooted because of tasker, titanium backup, and my music mods. The rest is stock.
It costs a lot of money, but it is worth all of it.. I would totally buy it again, If someone would ask me.

@gubacsek, Welll said, I couldn't agree more.
The Pixel XL is a stunning device, and I have no regrets switching from 6p.
Unlimited photo storage at full quality was an amazing bonus for me, as I take a ridiculous amount of photos and 4k video.

AJZ12 said:
I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.
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Exactly...today i remembered that I bought 30000 mA power bank and i used to recharge my 6p 2- 3 times a day... With pixel... i totally forgot the power bank!!! Im using the phone on a single charge with average of 5.5 hours SOT from bed to bed time ?(7 am till 10 pm) which is hilarious
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Any Regrets? Thinking of switching to another phone?

Hi,
Just wanted to see if anyone is thinking of switching to another phone because of the screen issues? I just got mine and it has a lot of grain and a much more noticeable blue tint compared to demo units I saw. It's not something I can un-notice.
Thanks!

Not switching phones here. I don't notice the grain at all, and I've gotten used to the blue tint at an angle. Looking head-on I don't have an issue.
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bkrivelow21 said:
Hi,
Just wanted to see if anyone is thinking of switching to another phone because of the screen issues? I just got mine and it has a lot of grain and a much more noticeable blue tint compared to demo units I saw. It's not something I can un-notice.
Thanks!
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Can an exchange mate. The grain shouldn't be noticeable

Nope, so far this phone is fast, great battery life and I actually have no issue with the screen. Looks great to me, no burn in.. No issues with the speakers. Basically nothing that was being reported is affecting me at all. Great Phone just wish I had gone with Google version of the phone instead of the locked Verizon version but development is still pretty non existent at this point so I'm not missing much I suppose.

still loving this phone - literally the only thing i wish it had was faster charging (had a oneplus prior to this), which is already kind of silly given the amazing battery life due to the larger battery

Not a chance of returning. Phone is amazing. Best battery life of any device I've owned. Now that twrp is official, development will follow soon. Cant wait for some pure pixel!

Before 8.1 I had regrets as I was having lots of random reboots but now the phone is perfect for me. No screen issues and great camera and battery life.

Your 1st post... welcome to XDA. Screen is not an issue for most on 8.1!
What devices have you had for comparison? Are you on 8.1?

Love this phone. There is no chance I would swap this phone. Best phone I have ever had.

Love this phone, have it for few days now. Miss some features of the Note 8 though like the awesome screen, game launcher and some camera options but its a compromise for fast updates and blazing fast performance.

I like the phone but I do see it slows down a little. Not as much as Samsung device but I sure feel it.
Just patiently waiting for some good ROMs.
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I am going to test out the U11+. Unfortunately after 8.1 my battery sucks and just using that as an excuse to swap phones. 8.0 battery was excellent, hopefully they fix that asap for those affected.

I am having random reboots on 8.1 so something seems to be weird. Other than that the phone is quite good.

I'm sure I'll get plenty of people pulling out their pitch-forks...
However, I'm seriously considering making the switch to the iPhone X. Now that it's readily available and many of my friends/family have one, I've had the ability to get my hands on it many times now and I really love the overall feel of the phone. When comparing my Pixel 2 XL with the iPhone X side by side, the difference in screen quality is night and day. It really does put the Pixel 2 XL screen to shame. It's not a subtle difference, by any means. Compared to the iPhone X, my 2XL's screen just looks cheap and washed out, even with Saturated mode enabled.
I'm finding that I really love the fluidity of IOS 11, as well. Although, I'm still not a huge fan of the obnoxiously large icons and lack of home screen customization. But I'm starting to think I can look past all that. Sadly, comparing the two phones side by side makes me realize I truly got sub-par quality with my ~$900 2 XL and it is seriously making me consider selling it while resale value is still high and making the switch.
Oh, and coming from the Galaxy S8 & LG V30, I have found that I truly miss the convenience of wireless charging. So it would be nice to go back to having a wireless charger on my night stand and another on the desk in my home office. With that setup I always had a charged phone and never even pulled the OEM USB-C charger from the original packaging. Wireless charging is truly liberating and I would love to have that back.

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Your 1st post... welcome to XDA. Screen is not an issue for most on 8.1!
What devices have you had for comparison? Are you on 8.1?
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THANKS!
With my experience with the screen, I was just thinking of moving down to the Pixel 2. I just wanted to see what other people thought. I just see if I go with an RMA I run the risk of getting an even worse device.

I love the phone for the most part. The screen is meh to me. I'll walk in to an electronics store and compare the screen to some other flagship with oleds like the galaxy S8/S8+, Note 8, Iphone X, the smaller Pixel 2 and even the LG V30. They all tend to have smoother/brighter whites, like they look less blotchy. I've managed to make my screen look quite a bit better with KCAL but even then I still wish it was just a samsung panel instead. I looked at the essential phone on display the other day and goddamn the build quality on that thing is amazing. It takes that whole "fancy" feeling of the Iphone X to a whole new level. Was seriously considering it since its only $500 right now. But at the end of the day I just can't give up the software and quick updates on the Pixel 2XL, even if it means settling with a so so screen.

bkrivelow21 said:
THANKS!
With my experience with the screen, I was just thinking of moving down to the Pixel 2. I just wanted to see what other people thought. I just see if I go with an RMA I run the risk of getting an even worse device.
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If you don't mind the size difference and this screen bothers you go for the Pixel 2. The screen is much better on that one.

sn0warmy said:
I'm sure I'll get plenty of people pulling out their pitch-forks...
However, I'm seriously considering making the switch to the iPhone X. Now that it's readily available and many of my friends/family have one, I've had the ability to get my hands on it many times now and I really love the overall feel of the phone. When comparing my Pixel 2 XL with the iPhone X side by side, the difference in screen quality is night and day. It really does put the Pixel 2 XL screen to shame. It's not a subtle difference, by any means. Compared to the iPhone X, my 2XL's screen just looks cheap and washed out, even with Saturated mode enabled.
I'm finding that I really love the fluidity of IOS 11, as well. Although, I'm still not a huge fan of the obnoxiously large icons and lack of home screen customization. But I'm starting to think I can look past all that. Sadly, comparing the two phones side by side makes me realize I truly got sub-par quality with my ~$900 2 XL and it is seriously making me consider selling it while resale value is still high and making the switch.
Oh, and coming from the Galaxy S8 & LG V30, I have found that I truly miss the convenience of wireless charging. So it would be nice to go back to having a wireless charger on my night stand and another on the desk in my home office. With that setup I always had a charged phone and never even pulled the OEM USB-C charger from the original packaging. Wireless charging is truly liberating and I would love to have that back.
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Pitch forks! Nah..it's your money bro, get what you like. I played with my brother in laws iX. It has a great screen, superb build quality, great camera, and is smooth as silk for sure. However....that NOTCH, gesture control, and zero buttons anywhere just isn't my cup of tea. But again, it's your money, you don't owe anyone an explanation, so get what you like, be happy, Merry Christmas, and live long and prosper :good::good:

Love this phone better than mate 9 or Nexus 6p. Or iPhone 7s that I briefly tried. Better battery life and overall experience.
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My screen fares well against my wife's pixel 2 to be honest. The screen could be better but I prefer over the OnePlus 5t screen in some ways

Anyone coming from either oneplus 5t or 6?your thoughts and views please?

Just wanted to findout your thoughts those who've used oneplus 5t or the new oneplus 6. What are your day to day usage views and observations in comparison to the pixel 2 xl. For me first I immediately noticed the pixel does get warm as am on the latest beta. Android p is also definitely smooth and what I miss the most from oneplus is the dash charging that thing is quick. It's too early for me to comment about the performance changes between the devices so I would really appreciate your views around performance in particular thanks.

Had a Pixel 2 XL, got a OnePlus 6, sold it and now I'm back with the Pixel 2 XL. Things I miss from the OP6 are the display (mostly because of the black crush in most pixel 2 xl displays), dash charging and the headphone jack. Other than that the Pixel 2 XL is better in every way for me.
EDIT: I really didn't notice much of a performance difference. I think the OP6 is a little faster but the Pixel 2 XL is smoother.

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Had a Pixel 2 XL, got a OnePlus 6, sold it and now I'm back with the Pixel 2 XL. Things I miss from the OP6 are the display (mostly because of the black crush in most pixel 2 xl displays), dash charging and the headphone jack. Other than that the Pixel 2 XL is better in every way for me.
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Thanks so what things brought you back. Only had my pixel 2 a few days so still undecided thanks.

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Thanks so what things brought you back. Only had my pixel 2 a few days so still undecided thanks.
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Basically everything except for the three things I mentioned. Battery life was about equal and I couldn't really notice the improved 845. The camera and software are so much better on the Pixel. I also like the panda color way better than any of the OP6 variants. The notch also kind of bothered me. I'd say the only reasons for getting the OP6 are if you really care about the extra performance of the 845 like for playing games or something or if the price/headphone jack is really important to you.

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Basically everything except for the three things I mentioned. Battery life was about equal and I couldn't really notice the improved 845. The camera and software are so much better on the Pixel. I also like the panda color way better than any of the OP6 variants. The notch also kind of bothered me. I'd say the only reasons for getting the OP6 are if you really care about the extra performance of the 845 like for playing games or something or if the price/headphone jack is really important to you.
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How bad is the notch is it very noticeable?

marvi0 said:
How bad is the notch is it very noticeable?
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It's kind of annoying. Hiding it definitely helps. I think I dislike it more than the average person so take my annoyance with it with a grain of salt. One thing that did reaaaallly annoy me is because the status bar is on the notch, and theres no fingerprint gesture, pulling down the notification shade was always a little annoying because it's very high on the screen, definitely not possible with one hand if your hands aren't that big.

I've owned the following:
OnePlus 5
OnePlus 5T
OnePlus6
Pixel XL
I currently own the Pixel 2XL.
I loved my OnePlus 5 and regret selling it to this day because it would have been a great backup phone to keep around.
I Didn't like the 5T because it had some strange screen inconsistencies, and the vibration motor felt very cheap and "loose".
I got the OnePlus 6, and ended up returning it within 7-8 days. It was a good phone, don't get me wrong, but I will explain why I returned it:
The Camera
Probably the biggest reason. I don't know if it's because I'm spoiled with the 2XL's camera, but the 6's felt slightly below average.
The Notch
This didn't bother me too much as I am quite indifferent about it, however, losing the ability for centre clock is what bugged me.
The Vibration Motor
Similar to the 5T, the vibration motor feels very cheap and "loose" if that makes sense. Again, maybe I'm spoiled with the 2XL's vibration, but it is far more superior than the 6.
Development
I'm no developer by any means, however, I am aware that the introduction of the A/B slots causes for some challenging custom development. I had no idea the OnePlus 6 was going to follow this trend. I'm sure there will still be tons of custom development available for that phone, however, I would have preferred if it didn't have this A/B layout.
Price
In Canada, the device was roughly $890 taxes in, with a glass screen protector. Definitely not in the budget range, especially given the fact that I got my 2XL second-hand for only $750!
Speakers
Despite some speaker rattling issues and whatnot, the 2XL still has much better speakers than the 6. Front-firing and two of them instead of one automatically makes it much better.
I do miss Dash Charge though. However, charging times aren't extremely important to me as I'm always around a charger (two in the house, one in the car, and also have a 26k mah power bank).
The 6 did seem faster in terms of things like app launches (it spent less time on the splash screen compared to the 2XL). But that was about it; with my animation scale set to 0.3x, the 2XL feels just as fast.
I'm going to stick with my 2XL for the time being