Did i get a fake rom? - Xiaomi Mi 5s Questions & Answers

Hey guys,
I bought my phone at Bestgear. When I check the version of my rom I get 8.2.16.0.0. Is this ok? Because on xiaomi.eu I cannot find this version. It's very confusing.

Yes, it's a fake rom.
Just flash an stable or developer china version and then install xiaomi.eu

But I don't understand. What should I do exactly, can you give me a precise procedure? Why would gearbest send me a phone with a fake rom?

To know what to do, try searching the following exact string on google, between quotes:
"All-in-one Guide Compilation On How To Flash Xiaomi.eu Roms On Your Mi5s", you should find a page on xiaomi.eu or en.miui.com.
The process is easy, but if you have absolutely no experience ask for a help.
About the fake ROM, there is still no official global ROM, so resellers put cooked ROMs with additional languages plus gapps (generally required from people outside China) and only god knows what else.

I have no experience with this. To whom should I ask for help?

I have found the guide you mentioned I will try to apply this process. However, could you tell me what does it mean when we say there is no global rom? I will have the phone in Chinese? Or at least in English too?
Thanks a lot for your help and patience.

Xiaomi release its stable and developer ROMS in two more versions: china and global.
The china versions have english and chinese languages.
Also the global versions have eng. and chn. lang. also but also more or less all the languages of the countries where xiaomi officially sells or supports a particular model.
If you go to Mi5S (no plus) http://en.miui.com/download-314.html you'll see that there are only china roms, while for Mi5S Plus http://en.miui.com/download-315.html there are also the global counterparts.
On the guide you'll find that the last step is flash xiaomi.eu ROM.
This is not an official ROM, but is created from the official chinese version. They add more languages, gapps and they do some optimizations beside removing those chinese apps that are not useful for people living outside China.
*I think* that Xiaomi uses their repository to get the translations to build their global versions.
If you follow the guide, is up to you which step to follows.
For example, if you are ok with official china because english is fine for you and you like chinese apps, you can follow just step #1 and #2, and on step #2 you have to choose between stable (less frequently updated about monthly, less new features, less new bugs) and developer (updated weekly with all the new features and bugs), and you should choose for stable.
I you want to install xiaomi.eu you have to follow step #1, #3 and #4. The step #2 is optional, but in this case get the same version (dev/stable) that you are going to use on #4.

Thank you for your help! I think I will try tonight if I have time.
Two more questions if you don't mind :
If I choose Chinese rom, will I be able to install manually and easily the playstore? And with titanium, will I be able to freeze the Chinese apps?
Secondly, if I do the next updates from the phone, will that close by bootloader again?
Thanks!

Mind that selecting English in Chinese official ROM for Mi5s will get your UI to Engish, true. But there will be so much annoying CHinese everywhere that it's pretty much useless to non-Chinese users. If you open App store everything's in Chinese. And that one is rather crucial if you'd like to install Google apps. So anyway. Apply for unlock, put TWRP on your device and flash xiaomi.eu ROM. It seems a complicated process but it's not really. And this specific ROM gets rid of much of Chinese stuff albeit removing strings only (i.e. Wallpaper carousel categories are only represented with images instead of their names as well). Anyway. But until XiaoMi releases a Global ROM for Mi5s we have no hopes of ever getting kernel sources which will allow developers to provide custom ROMs for it like CyanogenMod et al. As the reliable sources close to XiaoMi say, Global ROM for Mi5s will actually be released.

Ok, I will flash the rom from xiomi. Eu but that means I won't be able to update it from the phone, right?

Right

patci32 said:
Hey guys,
I bought my phone at Bestgear. When I check the version of my rom I get 8.2.16.0.0. Is this ok? Because on xiaomi.eu I cannot find this version. It's very confusing.
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I have fake ROM too but I don't care because it works and all languages are there. No spyware no malicious software no Chinese. I have China's ROM on my Mi note 2 and it's pain in the ass. You will regret if you flash Chinese ROM as many others did. Global ROM for Mi 5s is about to be realest.
P.S
Afterwards I have flashed Xiaomi.eu rom and looks good at first glance. I did backup of my reseller ROM before I flashed Xiaomi.eu rom just in case.

So I have sucessfully unlocked my bootloader, install everything I need for step 3, enabled usb debbug in developers options. But now I can move forward, when I launch the command adb devices my phone is not recognized. Any help?? it's super frustrating.

gnazio said:
Xiaomi release its stable and developer ROMS in two more versions: china and global.
The china versions have english and chinese languages.
Also the global versions have eng. and chn. lang. also but also more or less all the languages of the countries where xiaomi officially sells or supports a particular model.
If you go to Mi5S (no plus) http://en.miui.com/download-314.html you'll see that there are only china roms, while for Mi5S Plus http://en.miui.com/download-315.html there are also the global counterparts.
On the guide you'll find that the last step is flash xiaomi.eu ROM.
This is not an official ROM, but is created from the official chinese version. They add more languages, gapps and they do some optimizations beside removing those chinese apps that are not useful for people living outside China.
*I think* that Xiaomi uses their repository to get the translations to build their global versions.
If you follow the guide, is up to you which step to follows.
For example, if you are ok with official china because english is fine for you and you like chinese apps, you can follow just step #1 and #2, and on step #2 you have to choose between stable (less frequently updated about monthly, less new features, less new bugs) and developer (updated weekly with all the new features and bugs), and you should choose for stable.
I you want to install xiaomi.eu you have to follow step #1, #3 and #4. The step #2 is optional, but in this case get the same version (dev/stable) that you are going to use on #4.
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You know the process very well, do you know why I am blocked at step 3 with a phone that can't be recognized?

FYI I just did a full factory reset, still doest not work

Your device still not recognized? If yes, go into device manager, delete the phone there (right click - uninstall). Then unplug it and plug it back in, in many cases it's now recognized.
If it's still not working, follow this very precise guide:
http://en.miui.com/thread-410497-1-1.html

zmajdk said:
There is no alternative ROM for now but Chinese
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xiaomi.eu

gnazio said:
xiaomi.eu
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Thanks, I had difficulty to find rom archives on Xiaomi.eu. I found 6.11.10 for both mi 5s and mi note 2 and flashed. Looks good at first glance but I'm going to test it. Best regards!

Guys, I don't know why but the command "adb devices" never worked. I just manually put the phone in fastboot mode... And it worked. I'm booting on the xiaomi.eu rom. I will also flash supersu

patci32 said:
Guys, I don't know why but the command "adb devices" never worked. I just manually put the phone in fastboot mode... And it worked. I'm booting on the xiaomi.eu rom. I will also flash supersu
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It does work when phone is ON ( loaded in operating system) If the phone is in fastboot mode then it doesn't work but it is as intended. In fastboot mode use " fastboot devices"...

Related

A few pre-purchase questions about this phone

Hi,
I've been looking at buying this phone because my current one (Honor 5x) is a bit slow for my tastes but I just have a few questions.
1. If I buy the device from a Chinese vendor on AE/Ebay then will I need to use this guide to flash the global ROM to it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/how-to/installing-twrp-locked-bootloader-t3406501
I'm quite content to flash it myself since my last experience with proper Chinese phones (Elephone P7000) wasn't exactly a positive one and I would prefer an official Xiaomi ROM over anything custom. I also wouldn't want a rooted or BL unlocked handset and in any case Xiaomi's BL unlock authorisation process sounds painful.
2. Does the official Global ROM have full support for Google apps, DRM protected content, banking apps etc?
3. Does the official Global ROM contain any left over Chinese or is it 100% localised? I recall that my Elephone retained a Chinese bootloader and using the recovery menu when I needed to was extremely difficult. I can read quite a lot of Japanese but I don't know any Chinese and whilst a lot of the characters are the same, many others don't exist in Japanese at all or carry a different meaning.
4. Can I use Google Now over the MIUI?
Thanks in advance.
BloodRose said:
Hi,
I've been looking at buying this phone because my current one (Honor 5x) is a bit slow for my tastes but I just have a few questions.
1. If I buy the device from a Chinese vendor on AE/Ebay then will I need to use this guide to flash the global ROM to it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/how-to/installing-twrp-locked-bootloader-t3406501
I'm quite content to flash it myself since my last experience with proper Chinese phones (Elephone P7000) wasn't exactly a positive one and I would prefer an official Xiaomi ROM over anything custom. I also wouldn't want a rooted or BL unlocked handset and in any case Xiaomi's BL unlock authorisation process sounds painful.
2. Does the official Global ROM have full support for Google apps, DRM protected content, banking apps etc?
3. Does the official Global ROM contain any left over Chinese or is it 100% localised? I recall that my Elephone retained a Chinese bootloader and using the recovery menu when I needed to was extremely difficult. I can read quite a lot of Japanese but I don't know any Chinese and whilst a lot of the characters are the same, many others don't exist in Japanese at all or carry a different meaning.
4. Can I use Google Now over the MIUI?
Thanks in advance.
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2. Yes, it has full support for Google Apps, DRM, Protected Content, Banking Apps, etc.
3. No chinese leftover in Global ROM
4. Yes, you can use Google Now on MIUI
paarkhi said:
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2. Yes, it has full support for Google Apps, DRM, Protected Content, Banking Apps, etc.
3. No chinese leftover in Global ROM
4. Yes, you can use Google Now on MIUI
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Those were the exact answers that I was hoping for. Thanks.
You can use Google Now, but not now on tap.
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BloodRose said:
Those were the exact answers that I was hoping for. Thanks.
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After reading the link you posted the answer to your first question is also yes, that's the guide you'll need to follow to flash the stock rom and twrp recovery (only if bootloader is locked else if it's unlocked then instead of edl mode, you can boot in fastboot mode)
re Question #1
if you buy a Helium model (64/128gb) the official global rom isn't out yet. It'll probably come out in August from what I can see. http://en.miui.com/download-302.html#446
However the China Dev Rom for MIUI 8 isn't thaat bad. Once you get through 10 mins of pain first installing gapps and installing an english keyboard you won't see that much chinese and most chinese apps can be uninstalled. It'll do you OK until a global rom is out.
Ulver said:
You can use Google Now, but not now on tap.
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I'm sorry, what does that mean?
bobert135 said:
re Question #1
if you buy a Helium model (64/128gb) the official global rom isn't out yet. It'll probably come out in August from what I can see. http://en.miui.com/download-302.html#446
However the China Dev Rom for MIUI 8 isn't thaat bad. Once you get through 10 mins of pain first installing gapps and installing an english keyboard you won't see that much chinese and most chinese apps can be uninstalled. It'll do you OK until a global rom is out.
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I've gone for the 32GB/3GB version because the bigger versions were more than I wanted to spend really. Apparently the seller I've ordered it from are shipping them with the official Global ROM out of the box now so it should hopefully be OK to just pick up and go when it arrives.
Is there a global 64/3 version rom for the miui 7?
Sent from my MI MAX using Tapatalk
BloodRose said:
I'm sorry, what does that mean?
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Now on Tap is a feature which Google has released with Marshmallow where you can long press the home button on any screen and Google will show the details related to the subject which is on your screen. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE THIS FEATURE ON MIUI.
google said:
You can hold down your Home button to get information about what's on your screen using Now on Tap
Now on Tap is available for Android devices with both:
Android 6.0 (Android M)
Language set to English, Japanese, German, Spanish, Italian, French, Korean, Portuguese, or Russian
On any screen, touch and hold the Home button.
Google uses what's on your screen to show you related info, apps, and actions
Ways to use Now on Tap
Restaurants: Find restaurants and other points of interest mentioned on screen.
Movies: See reviews and info about a cast using the film name.
Music: Get details about a song or artist from within your app.
People: Learn about famous people and celebrities in the news.
Images: Get info about artwork, product logos, landmarks, and more.
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https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6304517?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-start-using-google-now-on-tap-in-android-marshmallow/
paarkhi said:
Now on Tap is a feature which Google has released with Marshmallow where you can long press the home button on any screen and Google will show the details related to the subject which is on your screen. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE THIS FEATURE ON MIUI.
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6304517?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-start-using-google-now-on-tap-in-android-marshmallow/
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Thanks. That is actually a slight positive for me because my current phone (Honor 5x) has that feature and I hate it.

Just received my new Mi Max, now what?

Ive just received my Mi Max from Top-One.
It is the S652, 3gb ram, 64gb storage
It has Miui 7.3.14.0.0
How do I update it to the latest stable MIUI version?
thank you
(when i use the in built updater it tells me that there are no updates available )
I think only the 32gb 650 has a global rom at the moment. I have the 652 4gb 128gb Max and am waiting for that global rom to come. Check on en.miui.com in the download section for the Max.
In the meantime, check if your ROM is legit. Actually, I'd unlock the bootloader and flash a new ROM to be sure.
Register a Mi account and apply for bootloader unlocking. Doesn't matter if you're outside of China and use a non Chinese number and state your reason in English. Takes a few days.
I bought a Mi5, Max, and Redmi Pro then made three new accounts and unlocked each one within 4 days.
Most important is to probably make sure you're not on a vendor rom.
Also tinker the app notifications. Enable notification light, lock screen notification, floating etc.
You might also want to "lock" apps in the memory so they won't reload or stop after you switch apps. To do that press the menu button and swipe down to.the app you want to be locked in memory. Then press the lock key.
kinghu said:
In the meantime, check if your ROM is legit.
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ramy911us said:
Most important is to probably make sure you're not on a vendor rom.
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How?
Vendor ROMs
Most Xiaomi devices that are bought through unofficial channels (grey market) come with this type of ROM. It has multiple languages and Google Play Store, but often also adware and bloatware, which are annoying and slow the phone down. This ROM is also buggy and unoptimised, so some things might not work (e.g. battery showing negative percentage or the rear LED not working at all), you might encounter issues and inconsistencies (e.g. freezing, lagging) and because of these attributes it is not safe to use. You can get rid of this ROM by flashing another ROM, usually via MiFlash. If your bootloader is locked, you can only flash official ROMs and only via EDL mode (see here).
Spotting a vendor ROM
It has system languages available other than Chinese and English
It has Google Play Store
Below Settings > About phone, MIUI version is fake (e.g. V7.00.99.00, V7.0.7.0.0 or 7.91.8.0) and the letter code afterwards has 'CN' or 'CL' in it
So what are the steps necessary to get this onto the latest stable official miui rom?
First thing you want to do is to get rid of the vendor ROM on your phone. En.miui.com has some tutorials on how to do it.
Sent from my MI MAX using Tapatalk
I have the exact same phone model (Mi Max Pro 3GB RAM, 64GB ROM) and the exact same
ROM: MIUI 7.3.14.0.0 Global as you have. Got my phone from a Chinese ebay vendor with very good
to excellent reviews.
Been using this 'unofficial vendor ROM' for quite sometime now and in fairness to whoever made the 'custom'
vendor ROM (I believe it is derived from the official global ROM of the 32GB Mi Max), the vendor ROM is very stable
and working very well for me. No reboots, forced closes/crashes or major problems with any of my 130+ apps:
Google apps (Gmail, playstore, newsstand, etc.), 10+ paid apps and 100+ free apps. The good thing about the ROM
is it has ZERO Chinese characters or apps in it. Just choose 'English' as default language and you're good to go.
I have decided to wait for the OFFICIAL global rom for the Mi Max Pro 64GB since the official Chinese ROM is
no good - it doesn't have playstore installed and installing playstore from third party sites is just as risky and tricky as having
a vendor/custom rom in the first place since you will be sideloading the playstore app, play services (and other supporting apps)
anyway. If you don't understand Chinese, how can you trust the sources of those sideloaded playstore apps? I'd rather
trust my vendor ROM as it comes from a seller with very good ebay rating (they care a lot about positive and negative feedback).
A Mi Max phone from a vendor selling the phone with malware and adware infested ROM will be bombarded with negative feedback.
Besides, I have not noticed any malicious apps, unusual ads or bloatware on this vendor ROM (MIUI 7.3.14.0.0) and
I trust it is the best option for me until such time the OFFICIAL global ROM for MI MAX PRO 64GB is released.
If you decide to go official, download the Chinese ROM but don't install playstore. Installing it from dubious sources
can introduce bloatware and malicious apps as well if you are not familiar with the Chinese app market or don't understand
a single Chinese character.
panyan said:
Ive just received my Mi Max from Top-One.
It is the S652, 3gb ram, 64gb storage
It has Miui 7.3.14.0.0
How do I update it to the latest stable MIUI version?
thank you
(when i use the in built updater it tells me that there are no updates available )
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don brian said:
I have the exact same phone model (Mi Max Pro 3GB RAM, 64GB ROM) and the exact same
ROM: MIUI 7.3.14.0.0 Global as you have. Got my phone from a Chinese ebay vendor with very good
to excellent reviews.
Been using this 'unofficial vendor ROM' for quite sometime now and in fairness to whoever made the 'custom'
vendor ROM (I believe it is derived from the official global ROM of the 32GB Mi Max), the vendor ROM is very stable
and working very well for me. No reboots, forced closes/crashes or major problems with any of my 130+ apps:
Google apps (Gmail, playstore, newsstand, etc.), 10+ paid apps and 100+ free apps. The good thing about the ROM
is it has ZERO Chinese characters or apps in it. Just choose 'English' as default language and you're good to go.
I have decided to wait for the OFFICIAL global rom for the Mi Max Pro 64GB since the official Chinese ROM is
no good - it doesn't have playstore installed and installing playstore from third party sites is just as risky and tricky as having
a vendor/custom rom in the first place since you will be sideloading the playstore app, play services (and other supporting apps)
anyway. If you don't understand Chinese, how can you trust the sources of those sideloaded playstore apps? I'd rather
trust my vendor ROM as it comes from a seller with very good ebay rating (they care a lot about positive and negative feedback).
A Mi Max phone from a vendor selling the phone with malware and adware infested ROM will be bombarded with negative feedback.
Besides, I have not noticed any malicious apps, unusual ads or bloatware on this vendor ROM (MIUI 7.3.14.0.0) and
I trust it is the best option for me until such time the OFFICIAL global ROM for MI MAX PRO 64GB is released.
If you decide to go official, download the Chinese ROM but don't install playstore. Installing it from dubious sources
can introduce bloatware and malicious apps as well if you are not familiar with the Chinese app market or don't understand
a single Chinese character.
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I think im going to wait until ajsmsg78 updates his excellent ROM with the OFFICIAL stable global ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698
You can still install Google services apk's from legit sites like apk mirror if you want to stay on the China ROM. Or check out xiaomi.eu's ROM.
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you can flash your mi max with bootloader locked
you need boot on EDL mode (vol+ and vol - and power) and flash fastboot rom with miflash beta
tuto here
fastboot rom miui 7.5 global official here /!\ FOR 64/128Gb ONLY
rcd1030 said:
you can flash your mi max with bootloader locked
you need boot on EDL mode (vol+ and vol - and power) and flash fastboot rom with miflash beta
tuto here
fastboot rom miui 7.5 global official here /!\ FOR 64/128Gb ONLY
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That sounds very similar to using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/how-to/guide-install-global-miui8-root-t3435594
And then I can flash this right? http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698
panyan said:
That sounds very similar to using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/how-to/guide-install-global-miui8-root-t3435594
And then I can flash this right? http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698
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Ah nice I did not see this tuto,
Yes you can flash twrp with miflash and then install this rom in twrp (don't forget wipe factory reset before)
rcd1030 said:
Ah nice I did not see this tuto,
Yes you can flash twrp with miflash and then install this rom in twrp (don't forget wipe factory reset before)
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what is the point of unlocking the bootloader if you can still flash custom roms with a locked bootloader? (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698)
panyan said:
what is the point of unlocking the bootloader if you can still flash custom roms with a locked bootloader? (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698)
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EDL mode (Emergency Download Mode) allows to bypass the locked bootloader, but xiaomi can disable this edl mode with a simple update (e.g. mi5 since MIUI 7.3.x.x )
with bootloader unlocked your phone is totally open
panyan said:
what is the point of locking the bootloader if you can still flash custom roms with a locked bootloader? (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698)
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Corrected...
Honestly I think you have a greater shot at bricking your phone after flashing a custom rom if it's locked. Or flashing the wrong firmware from a different model. I didn't have to do a battery pull after I flashed the wrong firmware on my Helium when I first got it. It's probably because I was already unlocked. I don't know why anyone here wouldn't wanna unlock.
ajsmsg78 said:
Honestly I think you have a greater shot at bricking your phone after flashing a custom rom if it's locked. Or flashing the wrong firmware from a different model. I didn't have to do a battery pull after I flashed the wrong firmware on my Helium when I first got it. It's probably because I was already unlocked. I don't know why anyone here wouldn't wanna unlock.
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they don't wanna lose their warranty?
Just an update. Finally got rid of the vendor ROM after Xiaomi released the official global ROM for helium devices.
My Mi Max 'Pro' (it is now called Mi Max 'Prime') is now on official MIUI 8 Global ROM using the procedure in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...vendor-rom-t3471329/post69173471#post69173471
don brian said:
I have the exact same phone model (Mi Max Pro 3GB RAM, 64GB ROM) and the exact same
ROM: MIUI 7.3.14.0.0 Global as you have. Got my phone from a Chinese ebay vendor with very good
to excellent reviews.
Been using this 'unofficial vendor ROM' for quite sometime now and in fairness to whoever made the 'custom'
vendor ROM (I believe it is derived from the official global ROM of the 32GB Mi Max), the vendor ROM is very stable
and working very well for me. No reboots, forced closes/crashes or major problems with any of my 130+ apps:
Google apps (Gmail, playstore, newsstand, etc.), 10+ paid apps and 100+ free apps. The good thing about the ROM
is it has ZERO Chinese characters or apps in it. Just choose 'English' as default language and you're good to go.
I have decided to wait for the OFFICIAL global rom for the Mi Max Pro 64GB since the official Chinese ROM is
no good - it doesn't have playstore installed and installing playstore from third party sites is just as risky and tricky as having
a vendor/custom rom in the first place since you will be sideloading the playstore app, play services (and other supporting apps)
anyway. If you don't understand Chinese, how can you trust the sources of those sideloaded playstore apps? I'd rather
trust my vendor ROM as it comes from a seller with very good ebay rating (they care a lot about positive and negative feedback).
A Mi Max phone from a vendor selling the phone with malware and adware infested ROM will be bombarded with negative feedback.
Besides, I have not noticed any malicious apps, unusual ads or bloatware on this vendor ROM (MIUI 7.3.14.0.0) and
I trust it is the best option for me until such time the OFFICIAL global ROM for MI MAX PRO 64GB is released.
If you decide to go official, download the Chinese ROM but don't install playstore. Installing it from dubious sources
can introduce bloatware and malicious apps as well if you are not familiar with the Chinese app market or don't understand
a single Chinese character.
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ramy911us said:
Most important is to probably make sure you're not on a vendor rom.
Also tinker the app notifications. Enable notification light, lock screen notification, floating etc.
You might also want to "lock" apps in the memory so they won't reload or stop after you switch apps. To do that press the menu button and swipe down to.the app you want to be locked in memory. Then press the lock key.
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Can you explain this more please

Pre-Sales question

Hi all,
I am completely new to the Xiaomi world (I prefer stock Android and easy root usually), but I got an excellent offer to buy this beast today.
I will buy this device, only if the following is possible.
- Unlock bootloader
- Root with Magisk
- Pass Safetynet check
- Install AFWall
- Install Adaway
Has anybody done this yet?
I don't want to know "how" (I can ask/figure out that later). I just want to know whether it is possible/relatively straight forward?
Thanks!
palmdude said:
Hi all,
I am completely new to the Xiaomi world (I prefer stock Android and easy root usually), but I got an excellent offer to buy this beast today.
I will buy this device, only if the following is possible.
- Unlock bootloader
- Root with Magisk
- Pass Safetynet check
- Install AFWall
- Install Adaway
Has anybody done this yet?
I don't want to know "how" (I can ask/figure out that later). I just want to know whether it is possible/relatively straight forward?
Thanks!
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Yes, all done. Very easy and straightforward. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for best miui experience or latest AICP Oreo treble rom for 95-99% working Android stock experience. Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu and have all except afwall on mine since I don't use that app.
I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
If you go with any other version, check out my buggy vendor thread to flash to xiaomi.eu rom easily.
opasha said:
Yes, all done. Very easy and straightforward. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for best miui experience or latest AICP Oreo treble rom for 95-99% working Android stock experience. Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu and have all except afwall on mine since I don't use that app.
I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
If you go with any other version, check out my buggy vendor thread to flash to xiaomi.eu rom easily.
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Quick follow up question. Is it possible to keep encryption on the userdata partition with the latest TWRP? I really like if my data is encrypted.
opasha said:
I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
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Thanks for the hint!
I guess keeping encryption seems to be possible? Using the unofficial TWRP by @nijel8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-1-nitrogen-t3866084
Right?
Thanks @nijel8 and @opasha ! I am glad we have geniuses like you on this device.
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I guess keeping encryption seems to be possible? Using the unofficial TWRP by @nijel8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-1-nitrogen-t3866084
Right?
Thanks @nijel8 and @opasha ! I am glad we have geniuses like you on this device.
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Encryption is possible. @nijel8 will have more knowledge since he created a modded TWRP. See this thread regarding encryption: https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/help/encrypt-phone-t3845117/amp/
You are most welcome :highfive:.
Thanks again. I will order now.
Talk to you all again in 720 hours
I got my device today. I like it!! I got the global version 9.6.7.0.
Looks like I "only" need to wait 360 hours to unlock
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I have a three more questions now.
#1 Is there a reason not to use this global 9.6.7.0 ROM (other than the ads). Are there any big bugs in this global version? If not, I will probably start rooting this version first Should I update the global version?
#2 You mentioned
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Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu
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There seem be to many newer versions than that. And also a "MIUI 10.0/10.1 STABLE RELEASE" (oct 24th). Is there a reason you are still on that old version?
#3 I understand not having ARB is better if you need to downgrade (without bricking). Is there a reason to downgrade frequently in the Xiaomi world? Is this because people need to switch back and forth between the Chinese and global ROM? And since I have the global version, can I ignore ARB?
palmdude said:
I got my device today. I like it!! I got the global version 9.6.7.0.
Looks like I "only" need to wait 360 hours to unlock
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I have a three more questions now.
#1 Is there a reason not to use this global 9.6.7.0 ROM (other than the ads). Are there any big bugs in this global version? If not, I will probably start rooting this version first Should I update the global version?
#2 You mentioned
There seem be to many newer versions than that. And also a "MIUI 10.0/10.1 STABLE RELEASE" (oct 24th). Is there a reason you are still on that old version?
#3 I understand not having ARB is better if you need to downgrade (without bricking). Is there a reason to downgrade frequently in the Xiaomi world? Is this because people need to switch back and forth between the Chinese and global ROM? And since I have the global version, can I ignore ARB?
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1) EU is just better (has more features baked in - universal face unlock, theme store, etc), less bloated, and more updated.
2) Stable release is fine, but I just prefer beta updates - faster fixes, more features introduced, and tested more by users = more feedback.
I'm on 8.8.9 eu strictly because:
a) It's pretty flawless for me.
b) If it's not broken why fix it? I haven't seen anything worth jumping ship for.
c) It's NON-ARB; I'll only upgrade to ARB if and once I see a better working pie release (coming soon supposedly) because a data wipe may be necessary. I'll use migrate app (faster than titanium backup) to backup all my apps and then restore them onto the new rom.
3) Honestly, having ARB is not a big issue especially since the updated EU roms are solid. However, my points back in number 2 still stand. You can flash to and back from treble gsi roms on ARB and NON-ARB without any issues. However, no matter what anyone tells you, gsi roms for our phone are not perfect. They're only 95% usable. They are still missing mono speaker, volte, and some other things that some say are working without evidence or thorough testing. @MrColdbird just tested a few of the latest if not all of the gsi roms, and he's in agreement with me - they're almost there, but not 100% yet. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for a complete rom. Just my humble opinion .
If you have any other questions, just ask. I hope this was informative enough.
@opasha @MrColdbird
Have u guys tried latest AOSPExtended Pie GSI? I loved this rom on my previous device.
https://downloads.aospextended.com/download/treble_gsi/pie_arm64_aonly/AospExtended-v6.0-arm64_aonly-20181117-0000-OFFICIAL.zip
Currently I'm also on 8.8.9 run and waiting for Pie build.
Anyone tried cutting of files from firmwareupdate folder to avoid ARB activation.
I've found solution that cutting firmware folder, leaving only files associated with modem shouldn't break anything and won't trigger ARB. Is it working on latest eu builds?
Files that allegedly have to stay in firmwareupate folder to not trigger arb:
.BTFM.bin
cmnlib.mbn
cmnlib64.mbn
devcfg.mbn
dspso.bin
NON_HLOS.bin
splash.img
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If anyone tested please confirm
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If you have any other questions, just ask. I hope this was informative enough.
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Thanks! And yes, this was very informative and helpful! Thanks for your time.
Regarding
> I'm on 8.8.9 eu strictly because ... It's NON-ARB
I was under the impression that EU is non-arb by design?
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/do-eu-roms-remove-anti-rollback.47145/#post-451617
I guess I haven't understood this ARB stuff 100% yet? And obviously this is a moving target. Posts only one or two months might be already outdated haha
Having said that, you convinced me about Eu.
And I guess in 15 days there will be new developments anyway (no pun intended).

Move from V11.0.3.0.PGGEUXM to V11.0.6.0.PGGMIXM, possible?

My device seems to be Europe due to the default OS that came with the device, I have never unlocked the bootloader or done changes to the ROM, however I'd like to move to Global because it's said to have differences among the EUROPE version? If so, how and if I can move to the global version?
alejandromujica.rsm said:
My device seems to be Europe due to the default OS that came with the device, I have never unlocked the bootloader or done changes to the ROM, however I'd like to move to Global because it's said to have differences among the EUROPE version? If so, how and if I can move to the global version?
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Do you have a list of the differences ? I'm interested
I guess via recovery (Maybe only flashing)
alejandromujica.rsm said:
My device seems to be Europe due to the default OS that came with the device, I have never unlocked the bootloader or done changes to the ROM, however I'd like to move to Global because it's said to have differences among the EUROPE version? If so, how and if I can move to the global version?
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There's a OTA for 11.0.2.0 to up to 11.0.6.0. Two ways to install:
1 via TWRP wiping dalvik cache, cache, data, system and flash.
2 regret MIUI 11.0.2.0 via fastboot like mine video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk48aPvu5vU
Link for OTA and recovery MIUI versions:
https://www.getdroidtips.com/miui-11-0-6-0-redmi-note-8-pro/
I hope help you
alejandromujica.rsm said:
My device seems to be Europe due to the default OS that came with the device, I have never unlocked the bootloader or done changes to the ROM, however I'd like to move to Global because it's said to have differences among the EUROPE version? If so, how and if I can move to the global version?
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Words of advise, just do not attempt to do anything without UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER FIRST!!
You simply cannot switch regions before taking that first preliminary step.
That's the way it goes.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Successfully moved from 11.0.3 EU to 11.0.6 Global, no issues, however, I can't seem to install Magisk cause I end up in a bootloop.
alejandromujica.rsm said:
Successfully moved from 11.0.3 EU to 11.0.6 Global, no issues, however, I can't seem to install Magisk cause I end up in a bootloop.
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link pls... tnx..
alejandromujica.rsm said:
Successfully moved from 11.0.3 EU to 11.0.6 Global, no issues, however, I can't seem to install Magisk cause I end up in a bootloop.
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How?
Did you have to unlock the bootloader? Or you just manually push the update trought the update app?
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Mik_Chester said:
Did you have to unlock the bootloader? Or you just manually push the update trought the update app?
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Always have to unlock bootloader, did it through TWRP, also rooted the phone as well, installed Dolby and Viper4Android as well, everything working smoothly.
what are the main differences between the roms ?
djzero86 said:
what are the main differences between the roms ?
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I asked the same question, because i am on the global euro firmware, and my phone is not detecting my NAVIGO transit card through NFC. I was wondering if the global international was better regarding this matter.
I've moved from EEA to GLOBAL with Xiaomitool 2, it changes my firmware to 11.0.2 GLOBAL without unlocking the bootloader, and then I manually push the full upgrade through the update app. Then I restore my phone for a full restoration.
Working smooth without issues.
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checkflow said:
I asked the same question, because i am on the global euro firmware, and my phone is not detecting my NAVIGO transit card through NFC. I was wondering if the global international was better regarding this matter.
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Well, I can only tell few details, the major one being better battery life.
checkflow said:
Do you have a list of the differences ? I'm interested
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djzero86 said:
what are the main differences between the roms ?
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checkflow said:
I asked the same question, because i am on the global euro firmware, and my phone is not detecting my NAVIGO transit card through NFC. I was wondering if the global international was better regarding this matter.
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alejandromujica.rsm said:
Well, I can only tell few details, the major one being better battery life.
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When I am unsure what the real differences are because I think HW is the same for both Global and Eu phones, I am pretty sure Laws regarding privacy of users are more strict in EU and there are probably some alteration of bundled software to abide with them.
Those privacy laws are the main reason why neither of those Roms have default MIUI dialer + recording and Messaging, because Xiaomi collects quite a lot of data. Not saying Google does not, but they already had to abide with those Rules and Regulations, so was probably way easier to bundle default android apps, rather than patching their own apps and doing so ending up having 2 versions of the same app.
Besides that, I am pretty curious too what really are the difference between EEA and Global versions with same number. Of course if we compare two different versions of MIUI, we will always find something different.
I am not sure where we can find an official info.
UPDATE:
As I was suspecting looks like main differences are related to ads and how/what datas can be collected or not.
From this post here where users were speaking about it too, differences seems to be summarized to those main differences:
EEA is a Global Rom specially designed for Europe - which basically is just saying they are taking GDPR seriously. You won't get ads and you will need to accept a prompt on every instance where they would collect data (unlike standard Global one).
Global ROM:
This is the official worldwide ROM for all countries except China
The Global ROM has also a Beta Program
The Global ROM receives updates every 1 to 2 months
EEA ROM:
This ROM was specifically designed for EU countries
During the first setup, one can disable all ads inside Mi Apps globally, whereas in the Global ROM, one needs to do that in the Apps themselves
The EEA ROM doesn't have a Beta program
Updates seem to be slower
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Hope this helps and is accurate.
Regards.
Mik_Chester said:
I've moved from EEA to GLOBAL with Xiaomitool 2, it changes my firmware to 11.0.2 GLOBAL without unlocking the bootloader, and then I manually push the full upgrade through the update app. Then I restore my phone for a full restoration.
Working smooth without issues.
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How?
jarp20 said:
How?
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Use xiaomitool v2 to change from EEA to global stable.
Just search it at xda forum, download it, and follow the instruction o both screen, PC and phone.
I had change the rom without unlocking the bootloader, no problems at all. But do it with your own responsability. I made it following the instructions from the forum of the Xiaomi Mi 9, that someone make it without unlocking bootloader. So I think than on ours phone, it was the same thing.
I delete my gmail account and the rest of account, then I follow the instruction. Clickin on My phone works correctly and i want to mod it, when Xiaomitool v2 ask me what i want to do. Then, click on global, the program itself download global rom 11.0.2 and then install via fastboot. Then i initialised the phone, put the full update global 11.0.6 zip in the phone storage, then go to update app, touch ten times miui 11 logo, and then, tap on the tree dots, manual upgrade, select the update zip. The phone installa the update and you will get your Redmi Note 8 Pro EEA 11.0.3 rom moved to Redmi Note 8 Pro GLOBAL 11.0.6.
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EEU Roms really dont have ads ?
vergilz18 said:
EEU Roms really dont have ads ?
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Personally after I have debloated the phone using Saki tools (I was not aware of that 'option' to disable ads within the settings) I dont get those MIUI ads everywhere. Of course that does not remove the 'Free' applications ads from the 3rd party application you may install (freemium games and such). Adaway might deal with those, or patch of culprit app with Luckpatcher or such. Or just dont install Adware apps.
I also did not really read what was asked of me when I first started the phone, but as a general rule I answer NO to every thing
For example an other girl friend of mine, who has no computer skills and just started the phone out of the box gets ads everywhere.
An other example the MIUI app installer, which I thought was essential to run the OS, adds ads for every apk installation. You get rid of that, you fall back on regular android stock installer and it has no ads.
Basically all MIUI apps shipped with the phone en EEA has ads. So if you have no use for them, get rid off them.
Once you have removed/disabled all of those, you'll get considerably less ads showing for sure
Hope this helps.
Regards,
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I'm on miui 11.0.3 indian stable. I have successfully installed root via magisk in my device.
(Please Check attachments for images)
Whenever i boot into twrp, all my folder names of internal storgae are shown with absurd names as you can check in photo. While in all other folders, like sd card and others, name are being displayed correctly. Don't know why twrp is not able to read folders of my internal storage.
I didn't have space on sd card so I tried to movie zip file in my otg pen drive and then tried to flash zip "
miui_BEGONIAININGlobal_V11.0.4.0.PGGINXM_8f956c6413_9.0.zip" but as usual received this error message.
Now don't know what to do. Please help.
mdvamik said:
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I'm on miui 11.0.3 indian stable. I have successfully installed root via magisk in my device.
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Whenever i boot into twrp, all my folder names of internal storgae are shown with absurd names as you can check in photo. While in all other folders, like sd card and others, name are being displayed correctly. Don't know why twrp is not able to read folders of my internal storage.
I didn't have space on sd card so I tried to movie zip file in my otg pen drive and then tried to flash zip "
miui_BEGONIAININGlobal_V11.0.4.0.PGGINXM_8f956c6413_9.0.zip" but as usual received this error message.
Now don't know what to do. Please help.
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Man I already answered your question in that other thread where you asked it.
Please refrain from posting duplicate question (even less when that one was already answered!) in different threads that you dont even own and which are not quite related to your own issue.
Regards.

Question Unable To Update ROM, Stuck On V12.0.11.0.RJTCNXM ("Global")

Background Info -
I purchased my 16GB x 512GB Mi MIX Fold from a reputable supplier on Alibaba. It was claimed that he was capable of making it have a "Global" ROM (a 5 - 7 day process is how long it took him). All Google services and apps were preloaded, just like my first Xiaomi Global phone I purchased 1.5 years ago. As well as only some of the Xiaomi Global apps. Now that I have the phone, I am running into a fair bit of issues (in this post I am only focusing on one). I did bring these all up to the supplier (of course including updating the ROM issues), all without much help. All he gave me was he said the ROM on my phone is actually the EEA version that was modified, and of I need any updates, go on www.xiaomi.eu. So not much help, because come to find out, they don't support the Mi MIX Fold and that there is no ROMs available. Including the current ROM my phone has right now - V12.0.11.0.RJTCNXM ("Global").
What is nice about my phone is that all the system apps are the Global versions. But what's not so great is the System Apps Updater does not work at all. It shows there are update(s) available for my Global apps, but when I update them, they are indefinitely suck at "Connecting 0%". I also tried Xiaomi's "Get Apps" while switching my Region to "India", it too showed updates, and would not update them no matter what I tried. So, I search online for each individual system app, and update each manually (yes, the whole process is a pain).
So Where I Need Some Help (The Purpose Of This Post...Updating the ROM) -
So, I am in the process of trying to update my phone's ROM, to get the best MIUI has to offer for the Mi MIX Fold. I have searched all over the internet and the only ROMs I can find are "China" versions.
My current ROM version is V12.0.11.0.RJTCNXM ("Global"). I know the most up to date ROM is V12.0.21.0.RJTCNXM (but it's the "China" version). I would like to have the current ROM, but I have a strong feeling that I will loose all functionality of all my Global system apps. The Xiaomi Updater app unfortunately does not work at all. When checking for an update, it says "No updates available". When tapping "Download latest package", it says "Can't download update...Wait a minute or two and try again". When I tap "What's new", it says "You don't have permission to access the update log...". Please see screenshots for all of this. I even tried to update it another traditional Xiaomi way by using Mi PC Suite, which it couldn't even detect my phone when connected. So that doesn't work either.
So my attempts are as follows (at least 20 attempts). I downloaded every Stable Recovery ROM version as listed in the XDA Mi MIX forum titles "MIUI Updates Tracker (Mi MIX Fold)" I also downloaded every ROM version from a couple other sources. I tried to update the ROM (from the newest version to the oldest) using the Xiaomi Updater app through Recovery Mode. Every time it failed saying "Current version is invalid. You can only flash the latest stable ROM", or "Can't verify update...Can't install official ROM". So then I downloaded the ROMs directly from mirror links to Xiaomi's server. I did the same update procedure, they all failed. Does that mean I have to do it via Fastboot?
Last Thoughts -
I included some screenshots showing what the ROM is on my phone (and the outdated Android security update), and what message comes up with each update attempt.
Could you guys point me in the right direction and help me figure out how I can update my Mi MIX Fold to the most current ROM, preferably the EEA version (if possible), since there really is no such thing as a Global version? I would be extremely appreciative if someone can shed some light!
Hi my suggestions is to backup your data firstly from there download the latest fastboot stable of the rom. From there before anything make sure oem unlocked is there inside your phone if not you need to wait 167 hours to fastboot flash the rom. Guides of unlocking is online you can search for that. After that, download the miflash.exe file, that can also be found online and from there flash it with it to the latest Rom . Hope that helps. If you are still unsure , you can always search online of "Flashing with fastboot xiaomi Rom"
amirulz1 said:
Hi my suggestions is to backup your data firstly from there download the latest fastboot stable of the rom. From there before anything make sure oem unlocked is there inside your phone if not you need to wait 167 hours to fastboot flash the rom. Guides of unlocking is online you can search for that. After that, download the miflash.exe file, that can also be found online and from there flash it with it to the latest Rom . Hope that helps. If you are still unsure , you can always search online of "Flashing with fastboot xiaomi Rom"
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Thank you very much for your response!
OK, so it looks like I will have no choice but to get rid of the custom "Global" ROM for the China version. I do wonder though if I am going to lose out on anything as far as the Global system apps (but won't update, unless manually), or all the Google apps & services, or anything else. There of course are many benefits switching to the China ROM.
I'm just a little reluctant because of it being a China ROM being used on a phone in the US. And having features that only work in China and is not optimized for the Global market. As well as features usually found on a Global Xiaomi phone, would be missing or can't work at all. Maybe I am overthinking it all. Another concern is if the China ROM would have English as a language that can be choses. I assume so, but it would be a plus to know 100% before I make the plunge.
Only if I could play around with a Mi MIX Fold with a fresh install of the China ROM. See how different it really is compared to what I currently have. See what it comes with (apps & all) & what is or isn't compatible. My previous, & only Xiaomi phone, was the Global version of the Mi Note 10 Pro. So I have, I guess you can call it, a Xiaomi Global mindset. My Mi MIX Fold is my daily driver, I can't play too much around. Also if I do flash it with China ROM, I can't revert it back to the ROM it has now, since it seems to be custom. Unless I can somehow backup absolute everything, ROM and all.
I know this is a simple question, but what and how is the very best method to back everything up? To not only make sure no data is lost, but also to make the whole process faster when restoring everything.
Do you have any other suggestions or advice? I would appreciate it!
The custom global rom is not official and you will never get update.
I recommend you to mi flash the chines rom, but you will lose everything.
Google will be available the chines ROM.
bom Dia, como consigo essa rom global?
Obrigado
anasmhds said:
The custom global rom is not official and you will never get update.
I recommend you to mi flash the chines rom, but you will lose everything.
Google will be available the chines ROM.
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Hey Anas,
Since you tried both Roms, which one would you recommend?
For UAE, does VoLTE work?
JazonX said:
Hey Anas,
Since you tried both Roms, which one would you recommend?
For UAE, does VoLTE work?
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Chinese rom, yes VoLTE works
anasmhds said:
Chinese rom, yes VoLTE works
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Superb, Thanks a lot for the confirmation.
Im in discussion with a friend to buy one.. What do you use as your daily now?
Im bored with the current devices, and samsung fold is too common. So planning to take this.
Let me know which link you used for the Flash .. (The Rom)
Your response and support is much appreciated !
JazonX said:
Superb, Thanks a lot for the confirmation.
Im in discussion with a friend to buy one.. What do you use as your daily now?
Im bored with the current devices, and samsung fold is too common. So planning to take this.
Let me know which link you used for the Flash .. (The Rom)
Your response and support is much appreciated !
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Sold my mix Fold and replaced with Samsung fold 3 as the software of Samsung is better, but both are suitable only for office use not a daily driver.
I am using xiaomi 12 pro as a daily driver and planning to move to s22 ultra soon .
Did you find any solution to install Global ROM in Mi Mix Fold?
hello every one
i have Xiaomi Mix Fold 2 with chines rom how can to convert it to global rom ?

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