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Nexus 5X or Galaxy S6?

What's your opinion on which one is overall better?
In my country they are roughly the same price on a 2 year contract (the Nexus 5X is about 30-40 Euros cheaper than the S6). But the build quality is rather different.
As a previous owner of a Nexus 5, I'm rather inclined towards the 5X, but I would like to hear from you about the everyday performance of the 5X (battery, camera, gaming, every aspect of this phone actually...).
Sorry if this thread is in the wrong place.

I get about 4hrs SOT normal to heavy use. Camera is great... But awesome in low light situations. The fingerprint scanner is fast and accurate. The March security patch/update took care of the lag issues. Love the size and weight of it. Easy root, quick updates, great dev support and last bit not least...Android N beta program.

ibila said:
I get about 4hrs SOT normal to heavy use. Camera is great... But awesome in low light situations. The fingerprint scanner is fast and accurate. The March security patch/update took care of the lag issues. Love the size and weight of it. Easy root, quick updates, great dev support and last bit not least...Android N beta program.
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Thanks...I've read a ton of negative comments about the battery of the 5X, but 4hrs SOT is more than enough for me on a daily basis. I'm a little afraid about the lag and partially about the future proof of the device for the next 2 years, because of the 2gb ram. My current LG G3 is also with 2gb and is absolutely terrible...

Morphiuss said:
Thanks...I've read a ton of negative comments about the battery of the 5X, but 4hrs SOT is more than enough for me on a daily basis. I'm a little afraid about the lag and partially about the future proof of the device for the next 2 years, because of the 2gb ram. My current LG G3 is also with 2gb and is absolutely terrible...
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pretty sure most people. myself included, get 2-3 SoT.
I also have a Nexus 6P and would recommend that over either S6 or N5X

2x4 said:
pretty sure most people. myself included, get 2-3 SoT.
I also have a Nexus 6P and would recommend that over either S6 or N5X
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Yeah, I know, but sadly it isn't available in my country

Ive had both. Battery is better on 5x, camera is better on s6. Other than that there is the question of stock vs touchwiz. Both phones are pretty nice.
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I also had the Galaxy S6 for about a year. Switched to the N5x last week, because I had enough of the constant fear of dropping it or even laying it on the table, breaking/scratching either the front or the back glass.
I can't really complain about the performance of the N5x it is pretty much on par with the S6 (subjectively). Battery-wise it is about the same for me if not better. I really missed vanilla android, although the latest marshmallow update on the S6 made touchwiz bearable (with the stock marshmallow theme).
The custom rom/update situation does not seem that good on the S6. They just recently got CM to run on the S6 (no working camera, call issues etc.), so it is still a long way until it gets usable.
And from Samsungs side I fear that this was one of the last updates.

ChriZer said:
I also had the Galaxy S6 for about a year. Switched to the N5x last week, because I had enough of the constant fear of dropping it or even laying it on the table, breaking/scratching either the front or the back glass.
I can't really complain about the performance of the N5x it is pretty much on par with the S6 (subjectively). I really missed vanilla android, although the latest marshmallow update on the S6 made touchwiz bearable (with the stock marshmallow theme).
The custom rom situation/update does not seem that good on the S6. They just recently got CM to run on the S6 (no working camera, call issues etc.), so it is still a long way until it gets usable.
And from Samsungs side I fear that this was one of the last updates.
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What's your opinion on the camera of the 5X?

It didn't really take many pictures, but from the few I took I can say that the camera is good. Not as good as the S6's camera, but it fits my needs.

fredrikreiman said:
Ive had both. Battery is better on 5x, camera is better on s6. Other than that there is the question of stock vs touchwiz. Both phones are pretty nice.
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Low light is better on 5x. IMO why not BOTH? lol I picked up an S6 for $200, didn't know the lady would sell it until after I bought my 5x. Camera is better on the S6 in good light but for low light the Nexus 5x takes the cake.
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And from Samsungs side I fear that this was one of the last updates.
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I'm on Verizon so when/if I get MM I can practically guarantee its the last update for the S6 I will see. Next year come tax time going to get me and my wife 2 new Samsung phones and me a Nexus, wonder who's making them this year might pick up a nexus tab if they do indeed bring it back.

I went from an S6 to the Nexus 5x. After the March update, this is a superior phone. Snappy, light and gets the job done. I hate touch wiz.

Yeah, the march update worked magic. Not a big fan of touchwiz but I wouldnt say no to the s7 edge. That phone is close to perfect. Just add usb c and get rid of the bloat...
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fredrikreiman said:
Yeah, the march update worked magic. Not a big fan of touchwiz but I wouldnt say no to the s7 edge. That phone is close to perfect. Just add usb c and get rid of the bloat...
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Yeah but it's twice the price of the 5X

Morphiuss said:
Yeah but it's twice the price of the 5X
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Yeah, i know. Ill maybe get the s7 edge in july or something when the price has dropped. Even though i really like my 5x i also like changing phones just for fun.
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fredrikreiman said:
Yeah, i know. Ill maybe get the s7 edge in july or something when the price has dropped. Even though i really like my 5x i also like changing phones just for fun.
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Good for you...Here the price stays pretty much the same till a new version comes out

very bad aosp support in s6,i switched from s6 to 5xi hope that give you the answer

bhavstech said:
very bad aosp support in s6,i switched from s6 to 5xi hope that give you the answer
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Yep. Thanks man

OP3 or S7 Edge Exynos?

Which would you choose and why?

The answer depends on which forum you post the question

drummerman said:
The answer depends on which forum you post the question
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Yeah, I figured as much. Was hoping to hear from people on the fence perhaps.

I think it depends a lot on how you use your phone and what your budget is. They both make phone calls, they both run all the same apps (mostly)...If you have the extra couple hundred bucks for the S7 edge and you want to use features like Samsung Pay and stuff like that then the S7 is awesome. But if you want to run something more open source like an AOSP based rom or Cyanogenmod and save a couple hundred bucks at the same time I think the OP3 is the best phone out at this moment. I haven't been over to the S7 forums but traditionally developer support for the Exynos has been pretty sucky, not sure if that has improved recently.
Really for the S7 Edge you are paying a premium for the "extra" features of Samsung's software. In my opinion there is way less of a reason to put custom ROMs on a Galaxy S phone anymore because since Marshmallow the proprietary software on the Samsung devices is actually pretty decent. But for tweaking, hacking, playing with firmwares the OP3 is top of the heap atm, at least until the new HTC Nexus' drop.

I ditched my S7 Edge Exynos because:
1. I never really liked its camera and all the post processing that it did to the photos.
2. I know reviewers say it has the best camera but I never really liked Samsung's decision to move to 12mp camera. I actually liked the camera of Note 5 best.
3. That physical home button makes navigation slower. OnePlus 3 got the buttons right and navigation is much faster.
4. Yes Touchwiz has become faster and I never experienced any lag, I still felt like I didn't really need all features
5. Note 7 will be out very soon and as you may know, Samsung devices lose value and become obsolate once new flagship comes out.
On the other hand, OnePlus 3 has just an average display and an average battery size (which I think that should have been bigger), however I still manage to get very close SOT to what I used to get with the Edge and Oxygen OS has been optimized really well. Also, I prefer the 16mp camera because picture detail is there even after zoom in. I also missed stock android and a device which I could root and still not lose warranty. At the end it is up to the user. Whether you like Touchwiz or stock android. I should should give credit to Oneplus 3 for using real metal, strong metal. Huawei used soft metal on the Nexus 6P and I couldn't stand that phone. Battery life was just average also.
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I have both as per my signature. The decision to change my P9000 for the Op3 as a second driver was more difficult than I thought. The sRGB update did it in the end.
The Edge was always going to stay.
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brickedvice said:
I ditched my S7 Edge Exynos because:
1. I never really liked its camera and all the post processing that it did to the photos.
2. I know reviewers say it has the best camera but I never really liked Samsung's decision to move to 12mp camera. I actually liked the camera of Note 5 best.
3. That physical home button makes navigation slower. OnePlus 3 got the buttons right and navigation is much faster.
4. Yes Touchwiz has become faster and I never experienced any lag, I still felt like I didn't really need all features
5. Note 7 will be out very soon and as you may know, Samsung devices lose value and become obsolate once new flagship comes out.
On the other hand, OnePlus 3 has just an average display and an average battery size (which I think that should have been bigger), however I still manage to get very close SOT to what I used to get with the Edge and Oxygen OS has been optimized really well. Also, I prefer the 16mp camera because picture detail is there even after zoom in. I also missed stock android and a device which I could root and still not lose warranty. At the end it is up to the user. Whether you like Touchwiz or stock android. I should should give credit to Oneplus 3 for using real metal, strong metal. Huawei used soft metal on the Nexus 6P and I couldn't stand that phone. Battery life was just average also.
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Disagree. The 12mp galaxy camera resolves more detail IMO despite the mp disadvantage. - Dont like the processing ... ? Shoot raw.
As to older Samsung's becoming obsolete ... Here in the UK the S6 series is still sold amongst the new line and it looks like it will continue to do so for some time.

drummerman said:
I have both as per my signature. The decision to change my P9000 for the Op3 as a second driver was more difficult than I thought. The sRGB update did it in the end.
The Edge was always going to stay.
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Disagree. The 12mp galaxy camera resolves more detail IMO despite the mp disadvantage. - Dont like the processing ... ? Shoot raw.
As to older Samsung's becoming obsolete ... Here in the UK the S6 series is still sold amongst the new line and it looks like it will continue to do so for some time.
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They still get sold of course but Samsung doesn't keep them top priority in the update list. Also I use RAW ehen I have my DSLR. I like my phones to point and shoot without putting too much thought into it. Glad you like the 12mp camera better though. I still prefer the 16mp cameras.
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brickedvice said:
I ditched my S7 Edge Exynos because:
1. I never really liked its camera and all the post processing that it did to the photos.
2. I know reviewers say it has the best camera but I never really liked Samsung's decision to move to 12mp camera. I actually liked the camera of Note 5 best.
3. That physical home button makes navigation slower. OnePlus 3 got the buttons right and navigation is much faster.
4. Yes Touchwiz has become faster and I never experienced any lag, I still felt like I didn't really need all features
5. Note 7 will be out very soon and as you may know, Samsung devices lose value and become obsolate once new flagship comes out.
On the other hand, OnePlus 3 has just an average display and an average battery size (which I think that should have been bigger), however I still manage to get very close SOT to what I used to get with the Edge and Oxygen OS has been optimized really well. Also, I prefer the 16mp camera because picture detail is there even after zoom in. I also missed stock android and a device which I could root and still not lose warranty. At the end it is up to the user. Whether you like Touchwiz or stock android. I should should give credit to Oneplus 3 for using real metal, strong metal. Huawei used soft metal on the Nexus 6P and I couldn't stand that phone. Battery life was just average also.
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Oneplus's updates take even longer than samsung, even though they only have 3 devices to update. Samsung has hundreds and they still manage to push updates
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Which would you choose and why?
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I think if you get the oneplus at this moment you're going to regret your decision. the release of the next nexus isn't far off. By that time your oneplus wouldn't be worth much.

malek777 said:
Oneplus's updates take even longer than samsung, even though they only have 3 devices to update. Samsung has hundreds and they still manage to push updates
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I think if you get the oneplus at this moment you're going to regret your decision. the release of the next nexus isn't far off. By that time your oneplus wouldn't be worth much.
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It is open source. Doesn't matter when official releases come from OnePlus. Also Nexus release is 3 months away. Too long until then. By the way, Oneplus phones keep market value better than any android smartphone I have noticed.
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brickedvice said:
It is open source. Doesn't matter when official releases come from OnePlus. Also Nexus release is 3 months away. Too long until then. By the way, Oneplus phones keep market value better than any android smartphone I have noticed.
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It's open source but not everything works without the official firmware. Maybe it does hold its value bit it's not an easy sell.

malek777 said:
It's open source but not everything works without the official firmware. Maybe it does hold its value bit it's not an easy sell.
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You actually got a point about the not bring easy sell part lol. I keep changing phones everytime a new one comes out. Will see how long it takes me to get tired of the Oneplus 3. I know that I am always excited about Samsung phones, but then they feel nothing special. I am sure I would have sticked to Nexus 6P if battery wasn't so poor due to the SD810 processor or the cheap metal they used to build that phone.
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I left the s7 for the op3 not a single regret

I never owned an S7...but I just wanna say I've been getting daily comments/compliments on my OP3
It's a really well built, good looking phone...lol
People are all intrigued when they see it
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
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You are in a oneplus 3 forum. If you want a locked bootloader unless you get the international version then get the s7. If you want a phone that is a pain in the ass to root and unstable after you root it then get a s7. If you want a gangster ass phone with 6gb of ram and the best developer support that I've ever seen then get the oneplus 3

I have got Galaxy S7... +Gear VR..
I'm thinking about OP 3..but I live my Galaxy S7...
If we get Miui on it,(my god) S7 be the best phone ever...
I think I will wait for the next Nexus....

Guys, S7 Edge is totally different from the S7.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
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Hold onto your s7 edge once the nexus gets released trade it for that. Someone out there will want to move from a nexus to an s7 edge but I sure you no one will want to trade their nexus for a onplus 3 lol

malek777 said:
Hold onto your s7 edge once the nexus gets released trade it for that. Someone out there will want to move from a nexus to an s7 edge but I sure you no one will want to trade their nexus for a onplus 3 lol
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Yeah by that time the S7 Edge will cost $400 while new Nexus will cost $600.
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brickedvice said:
Yeah by that time the S7 Edge will cost $400 while new Nexus will cost $600.
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I don't know how much it will cost by then but certainly more than a oneplus.

brickedvice said:
I ditched my S7 Edge Exynos because:
1. I never really liked its camera and all the post processing that it did to the photos.
2. I know reviewers say it has the best camera but I never really liked Samsung's decision to move to 12mp camera. I actually liked the camera of Note 5 best.
3. That physical home button makes navigation slower. OnePlus 3 got the buttons right and navigation is much faster.
4. Yes Touchwiz has become faster and I never experienced any lag, I still felt like I didn't really need all features
5. Note 7 will be out very soon and as you may know, Samsung devices lose value and become obsolate once new flagship comes out.
On the other hand, OnePlus 3 has just an average display and an average battery size (which I think that should have been bigger), however I still manage to get very close SOT to what I used to get with the Edge and Oxygen OS has been optimized really well. Also, I prefer the 16mp camera because picture detail is there even after zoom in. I also missed stock android and a device which I could root and still not lose warranty. At the end it is up to the user. Whether you like Touchwiz or stock android. I should should give credit to Oneplus 3 for using real metal, strong metal. Huawei used soft metal on the Nexus 6P and I couldn't stand that phone. Battery life was just average also.
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#2 is same as me, Note 5 and Lg g4/g5 are superior cameras imo. The s7's processing is horrible

Still worthing buying it?

I really like this phone but I want to know your opinions about if is a good buy after one year released, specially considering I want to keep it for around 1.5 years..
I'm specially concerned about battery life, good software and updates or community development, ...
Also I wanted to ask this questions about the phone:
- is there any way for recording in 1080p 60 fps?
- can you drop screen resolution to 1080 for battery savings?
-Ok google with screen off drains much battery? (Most useful feature, in my Nexus 5x doesn't drain battery due to sensor hub)
I really love the phone but I'm not sure it still worthing it considering new phones like p10 and that maybe is not so big upgrade from Nexus 5x

-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.

Definitely worth buying!
I'm not having heat issues, and battery is fine considering that you can do a full charge in 1.5 hours. Camera is comparable with all the other flagships and beats many of them in many areas. Wifi is ok, never had issues that would made me consider it as "the worst thing".
It's a nice phone, very robust, and it should easily last for 1.5 years. Development/support for the phone is great and you can easily root it (which is essential nowadays for ensuring that you get the best out of your phone).

Worth buying but I'd probably get the pixel, you could wait for the S8 (if that's your thing)
Personally I'd wait for the HTC 11, I'm guessing it'll be a beast.
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If you can get a good deal then it definitely worth it. i doubt they will make a better device. i plan to keep using mine the next 2 years and never sell it. i am in love
To be fair the issues i am facing are,
Battery life can't get more than 4 hours SOT on very high usage.
very high battery drain when i go out, LTE Enabled + max brightness with normal usage.
carbon grey color scratch easily.

keaheng said:
-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.
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I don't have any of those problems. US unlocked. Good battery life. No "pink" screen. WiFi is superb. Running Viper10 3.5.0 with EX Kernel. Smooth and responsive. Does everything I want it to. I haven't seen any other phone I would upgrade to at this time. That's my $0.02 keep the change.

The phone is good and battery life exellent. Wifi could be better. But I miss security updates from HTC. No update since January.

I would suggest you to go for it, since prices are down, developer support is awesome lots of los+sense roms....perfromance is good (820 can be easily compared to 821), camera is decent enough my brother got s7 and we both click awesome pics....also with nougat voLTE is also there so worth buying it...

Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery

I recommend s7 edge...best battery ever...amoled screen...killer camera...good development

Javi22 said:
Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery
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I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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dladz said:
I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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Of course it's a capable device, just that I require a good battery life so I can use the phone as a smartphone, with everything enabled as I like, and it eats the battery so...
I don't like Samsung so I'll wait to see new htc however I don't think I get it because of the price. I will wait for a future one plus with smaller screen or a Huawei p10 when it drops its price
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I am debating about the same. I am still holding to my old M8 but the battery life is not so good and the top speaker is distorting the sound and I love my stereo front speakers. But I think I will wait for confirmation on the expected HTC 11 and see if it´s much better.
Once thing I am worried about is that we still don't even have a leak or rumor about the 11. Could it be that no 11 is coming and it´s vaporware?
Cheers

If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!

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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!
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Yes I'd guess so.
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I just bought a "mint" Verizon HTC 10 for only $395 from Swappa with S-OFF($25 already saved). Here is my list of factors when purchasing a phone:
I live in a Verizon only reliable area.
I will only use this type of phone: Rootable (with good development behind it), SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C
My backup LineageOS S5 is on it's last leg physically, really needed a new phone.
Prefer one handed phones.
Prefer OEM's that encourage unlocked bootloaders and rooting (HTC, LG, and OnePlus seem to be it)
Strongly prefer front facing stereo speakers.
Prefer IP68
Prefer OIS, with large megapixels (for low light)
Dislike glass phones (don't need wireless charging tradeoff for crackable back panels).
Dislike camera bumps
From that list, the Verizon HTC 10 EMEI activates easily on Verizon, is rooted, has SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C, 5.2 display (one handed), metal body, and OIS with large megapixelas, and is from a OEM that encourages the phone OS freedom.
The 3 things the HTC 10 fails to check for me are:
No IP68, but at least it's IP53.
No front facing stereo speakers, but at least it has 1 front facing tweeter with a sideways woofer to make BoomSound...better than most other phones on the market.
No camera bump, but I put cases on my phones anyways.

Got to ask you guys I'm undecided between the Huawei P10 or the HTC 10.. I've only had HTC's since back in the days of when they made the XDA's for O2 with Windows mobile.
Which phone would you choose.. so far the only thing I really like about the P10 is that it has 128GB of Memory and well the 6GB of Ram doesn't hurt either.

Finally I bought Xiaomi mi5s. But it happens that aosp/lineageos roms are great but camera quality and battery are much worse
And I refuse to use miui
So I'm thinking again about htc 10. My question is about roms. Since htc won't update software anymore, I would like to know if developers do the job...
I mean, are dev roms as good as stock roms? (I see it has offical support for great roms like Resurrection remix or Mokee
That would be the point for buying it or not

It also has official support for Lineage OS and they've announced it will get a stock android O update (which will probably come around January if history repeats itself). The developers are keeping up with security releases, so if that's your biggest concern then get a non-stock based rom and run with it. I'm pretty happy with the phone. The one downside to running non-stock based roms (AOSP or LOS based) is that you'll lose HDR on the camera.
For the record, I picked mine up last month. It's a Sprint model that I unlocked the sim and LTE bands on and am running it on T-Mobile.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi MIX, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi MIX is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

by far one of the best phones I have had in ages

I agree. Lets say I like it so much, I bought my 3rd one couple days ago. (Sadly have broken 2 since launch) Had s8 for few days after 2nd one broke, and I could not do it. Bought my 3rd one

i do same thing! i sleep right next to it....hahaha. frickin' awesome phone

It's not for everyone, but it's the coolest phone I've ever had. Love when people ask what it is and I tell them you have to import it. And that jawdropping display

The best thing about this phone has to be the design and feel in hand. It's stupidly slippery without a case, but the design is just so nice. Philippe Starck did a damn good job designing this.

also to me, I have buy again this as the only phone in use,
changed Note 8, S8 etc.. to come back to Mi Mix

Been with it for a while now and, except for that terrible proximity sensor which constantly forces me to manually turn off the screen every time I make or take a call, it's absolutely splendid.
Everything's smooth, the screen is gorgeous and it's just small enough to fit into both my VR headset and my Gamesir Gamepad.
Streaming PC games to it via Moonlight is a pleasure.
For those that wonder, I'm running on LOS nightly.
MIUI got banished from it the day I received it.

Best phone I've ever had. Coming from Honor Note 8 and my wife has a S8 plus and by far the Mi Mix is the best for speed, looks and quality. The only downside is that the phone is really slippery and can get destroyed if dropped, we have to cover this beauty with a case

Best Phone I've ever had, coming from a Nexus 6P. The (original) Mi Mix has just the best design available on the market of all phones, regardless of OS (even if the new iPhone X might have a near-borderless screen at the bottom the thing at the top is utterly ugly and while using a phoen you are looking at the top and not at the bottom...). Hopefully @pappschlumpf will continue to supply RR-updates for our device for a long time
And the biggest flaw - the camera - can easily be fixed with software: with the modded gcam version with hdr the result is as good as it was with my 6P!

I love the look and feel of it too.
The most awesome feeling Phone I have had.
I have owned most Samsung notes so far.
On the Mix, I just wish I could get Google apps to load on it in Australia.
Or I will have to replace it with a Note 8
It only has the Chinese software.
Any clues or help would be most appreciated.
Thanks

Masters88 said:
The most awesome feeling Phone I have had.
I have owned most Samsung notes so far.
On the Mix, I just wish I could get Google apps to load on it in Australia.
Or I will have to replace it with a Note 8
It only has the Chinese software.
Any clues or help would be most appreciated.
Thanks
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Xiaomi has already released ROM for international users which include a google app store. feel free to contact me if you can't find any.

Loved it when I first saw it a year ago. Have it since yesterday. Great phone,
premium build. Even after one year the phone is still inspired and inspiring.
The build quality is superb the ceramic frame is gorgous. I'll take this over
the 18:9 nonsencse any day.
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...start here http://en.miui.com/unlock/ and 70 hours from now, you have a global version running
Nougat 7.0 with MIUI or any other Rom you fancy.
Masters88 said:
The most awesome feeling Phone I have had.
I have owned most Samsung notes so far.
On the Mix, I just wish I could get Google apps to load on it in Australia.
Or I will have to replace it with a Note 8
It only has the Chinese software.
Any clues or help would be most appreciated.
Thanks
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So far so good, I'm using Linage OS.

I simply love my phone after updating to Lineage OS and installed the ported google hdr+ camera app. I just love how my phone takes better pictures at low light situations after installing the Google HDR+ camera app

wordpass said:
I simply love my phone after updating to Lineage OS and installed the ported google hdr+ camera app. I just love how my phone takes better pictures at low light situations after installing the Google HDR+ camera app
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Its an amazing phone, for sure my favorite even over my Nexus 6p. Love the looks and all that offers what a great device. With addition of the GcMod camera port its almost perfect now

I ran the MIX for 4 months on stock MIUI (including the latest Nougat update) and found it perfectly alright. I just used Action Launcher instead of the default and it worked like a charm. This was partly because there were some kinks in the unlocking procedure and partly to test it out.
Battery life was excellent despite leaving bluetooth active all the time (I have a Yeelight lamp and main bulb) and despite many comments to the contrary I found the stock camera to produce excellent results even in low light, and was especially impressed with how well it dealt with flash images at close range.
I finally got peed off with the updates of bloatware that I never used and the fact that Xiaomi had automatically backed up a load of my data to the cloud and am now running LOS nightlies.
Without question the best mobile I've ever owned.
Sláinte
mmidders

I just ordered me one today. Cant wait! I know about Camera drawback and slippery and I all other problems, But I don't care because its so freaking good loooking phone.
Coming from Redmi Note 3 Special Edition and Redmi Note 4x and LeEcco Le 2 Pro with miui 9 ported

mmidders said:
I ran the MIX for 4 months on stock MIUI (including the latest Nougat update) and found it perfectly alright. I just used Action Launcher instead of the default and it worked like a charm. This was partly because there were some kinks in the unlocking procedure and partly to test it out.
Battery life was excellent despite leaving bluetooth active all the time (I have a Yeelight lamp and main bulb) and despite many comments to the contrary I found the stock camera to produce excellent results even in low light, and was especially impressed with how well it dealt with flash images at close range.
I finally got peed off with the updates of bloatware that I never used and the fact that Xiaomi had automatically backed up a load of my data to the cloud and am now running LOS nightlies.
Without question the best mobile I've ever owned.
Sláinte
mmidders
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You recommend a different ROM? I Ordered my phone, coming from a mi 5s plus, in which I was happy with stock firmware

Lineage OS is the goto ROM of choice, but I'm currently running Resurrection Remix because I wanted to try Oreo. Just head to the Xiaomi Mix page of the forum to see your options.

considering the OnePlus 6?

I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?

GCbard said:
I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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I'd consider the snot out of it if it weren't for 2 things...1. THE NOTCH!!!!! 2. It doesn't work on my provider! ??

Badger50 said:
I'd consider the snot out of it if it weren't for 2 things...1. THE NOTCH!!!!! 2. It doesn't work on my provider!
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Same. I wonder if they realize how many customers they are losing out on by continuing to not put in certain bands. Or, do they need someone's permission? Either way: notch = no sale, for me.

I don't see the reason for switching to a OP6. I don't even consider it as an upgrade.
OnePlus screens have never been amazing
Snapdragon 845 over 835... do you really need the difference in processing power?
Camera is going to be definitely worse, even the S9 still struggles against the Pixel 2.
Software updates aren't going to be faster, that's for sure
Battery life and RAM might be better though I have never ever had RAM problems with my Pixel 2. RAM is there for being used, free ram is wasted ram.

allweknowisa said:
I don't see the reason for switching to a OP6. I don't even consider it as an upgrade.
OnePlus screens have never been amazing
Snapdragon 845 over 835... do you really need the difference in processing power?
Camera is going to be definitely worse, even the S9 still struggles against the Pixel 2.
Software updates aren't going to be faster, that's for sure
Battery life and RAM might be better though I have never ever had RAM problems with my Pixel 2. RAM is there for being used, free ram is wasted ram.
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Very good points. I would only consider one as something extra to play with, not a daily driver.
On your first point, I certainly wouldn't describe the Pixel 2XL's screen as amazing, either. I'm not referring to blue shift. That doesn't bother me. I'm more about ghost swipes and graininess.

Str0ntium said:
Very good points. I would only consider one as something extra to play with, not a daily driver.
On your first point, I certainly wouldn't describe the Pixel 2XL's screen as amazing, either. I'm not referring to blue shift. That doesn't bother me. I'm more about ghost swipes and graininess.
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I understand somebody can upgrade their Pixel 2 XL to an S9 or S9+ with the main reason of having a way better screen, but I think OP6 screen will not be worth the switch.

If it worked on VZW, would ditch the Pixel and go back to the OnePlus in a second. It is better in every single way except the camera. But the 6 might close that gap more.

one thing is having used 3, 3T and 5, there is a touch latency where it cannot even beat Nexus 6p. seems liek there is lag while 6p, 2xl there isnt any.
however the 6 do interest me with the screen to size ratio.. notch doesnt bother me

Nada! Our Pixel XL 2 keeps getting better and better with more Development! Salute'

I was an upgrade every year user before but have turned into an every two year person now. So 2019 for me but I'm also still waiting for a Sprint compatible variant which will probably never come. I'll never be switching carriers as Sprint is good everywhere I need it to be and cost is good.
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I was thinking about getting one as a secondary device, just because it seems like OnePlus is replacing/has replaced the now dead Nexus line in terms of development.
It would be nice to have a device to just tinker with and install mods, ROMs, kernels, and so on.
But I'd definitely keep the Pixel 2 XL as my daily driver just because of things like the camera and overall smoothness of stock Android.

No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me

GCbard said:
I am just curious if anyone here is considering the OnePlus 6?
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The day OnePlus supports Verizon is the day I will spend money on a phone of theirs. I am patiently waiting with money in hand.

Short ans no
Long ans still no
Cheers ?
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Phazonclash said:
No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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I see your points but just a little devil's advocate here, your missing one of the best reasons to get a OnePlus. It's got the best performance for the money. Yes they've been climbing up in price every year but it's still ~$250-$300 less than comparable Pixel and Galaxy phones. Yet it's one of the fastest in everyday multitasking, great RAM management, and very good battery. Even if they have it rise up to $599 for the higher OnePlus 6 model, it's still a decent savings.
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Not even considering it. 2 reasons for me...the stupid a$$ notch and the camera is junk. And I say the camera is junk because I have no faith in these guys to get it right. And if they did...still have the dumb a$$ notch. No thx.

Phazonclash said:
No... After using Samsung devices for years, I got a Pixel 2 XL for the quick updates despite the missing features compared to the Galaxy S7/S8/S9, and so far I'm pretty happy with my choice and I'm dealing better than I thought I would with the lack of a microSD card reader, wireless charging and minijack audio port.
The way I see it, OnePlus phones are a lose-lose situation: they lack the quick Android updates the Pixel has AND they lack the features that make the Galaxy S7/S8/S9 such great phones (terrific display, IP68, wireless charging, great camera, SD card reader, etc.) so yeah, I'm not interested at all in the OnePlus 6.
For me the only dilemma I have these days is pretty simple: Do I go with the quick Android updates and great user experience +
decent hardware (Pixel) or do I go for all the hardware bells and whistles but a less enjoyable software experience (Galaxy/Note)?
I'm not saying the OnePlus 6 is a bad phone for others, but it's not a phone for me
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Have you even owned a OnePlus 5T? Doesn't sound like it. You are spreading misinformation. The main developers are former XDA/Custom Rom Devs who were hired to work for OnePlus. They have Beta releases which they freely communicate and offer instructions/support how to install and run. The last Beta 3 had full fling/swipe gestures which at the same time expanded the screen fully, not the bad fling Nav gestures that are on the custom Roms here which still leave the bottom part of the screen blank/Nav space present and don't expand the view/icons etc to the bottom to gain full use. That is fully functioning in the OnePlus 5T Beta 3 released that is rock solid overall with few bugs. The profile of the 5T phone/near frameless/size are all way ahead of the Pixel 2 XL. The AMOLED screen is much better on the 5T than the Pixel XL 2 in every way. To say the screen is good on this phone is ridiculous with all of the verified off angle blue tint and other issues that became a public fiasco for Google. Mind boggling why this phone looks and performs the way it does with Google in control of the process. The only thing they don't have is the camera/software on the OnePlus. They have some of the best Devs who came from XDA/Custom Rom worlds...hence why they were hired to work for them. Read up on those facts/history is you would like. Also, they have some of the good Dev support from XDA, only second I would say to HTC Dev. This new Pixel with Treble has caused a lot of issues, and soon everybody is going to be dealing with, even OnePlus and other manufacturers since they have no choice. So the future should get better for everybody.
Clean Android experience? Oxygen OS is already pretty stripped down. You can run Nova on it like I do with the Pixel, or AOSP or whatever, it is just as generic and they are open to the standard Google Android experience as anybody, with their own twist if you choose to run their launcher.
Memory/processor loaded up on the OnePlus 5T. No SDCard like a lot of phones today, but dual sim slots if you need it. It is a great performing phone, up there with the best for much less money. If they implement VZW band support and improve that camera, I'm ditching this Google Pixel XL 2 phone is a heartbeat. I personally was running the latest Beta 3 on my 5T with swipe gestures and Nova, unlocked, rooted with blu_sprk custom Kernel/TWRP version and it was a phenomenal performer and great phone. Since I don't take a lot of photos and use the camera that much...really not a big deal. I have a $3k SLR if I want to be serious about photography to use.
But to each his own. Only reason I even am using this Pixel is because there are very few phones on VZW which you can unlock the bootloader/root and maintain functionality to customize it. Only other phone you can buy to do this really is a V30+, and even then, not as good as the Pixel 2 XL.

Not in a million years. On contract in the UK you're basically paying top dollar for a sub par phone. Did they ever fix the upside down jelly displays or put a decent cam in them yet?

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Not even considering it. 2 reasons for me...the stupid a$$ notch and the camera is junk. And I say the camera is junk because I have no faith in these guys to get it right. And if they did...still have the dumb a$$ notch. No thx.
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I hate to say it but the notch is the new "no 3.5 mm headphone jack". I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the majority rather than the minority in another year or two.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I hate to say it but the notch is the new "no 3.5 mm headphone jack". I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the majority rather than the minority in another year or two.
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I'm forecasting the opposite. After not meeting sales projections for the year, they will drop this notch foolishness like a hot potato.
We each have a 50/50 shot at being correct. I hope I am, btw.