Moto Z Play from Republic Wireless - seems like a smokin' deal - but Qs? - Moto Z Play Questions & Answers

Hey folks,
Been on the fence for a little while between the Moto Z play and the Oneplus 3T. Both have benefits/drawbacks, but overall I'm leaning to the Z play.
Today I came across this deal at Republic Wireless -
https://republicwireless.com/phones/
$100 off retail for a Moto Z play ($350 total cost) and includes 6 months of free service on the unlimited talk/text and 1GB data plan. I really don't care about the service, as T-Mo coverage is crappy by me, but I still have an ATT plan that I plan to use the phone on anyway. I've seen some mention that republic wireless devices are 'unlocked' but I assume this means carrier unlocked. Which leads me to believe that swapping my sim out of my current ATT phone won't present any issues. However, do any of you know if Republic wireless blocks moto's bootloader unlock tool (like VZW does)? While I may not want/need root right away, one factor in purchasing a phone outright, for me, is rootability. Anyone know how to find out what model / variant number they sell?
Thanks in advance - and looking forward to jumping over to this community if/when I pull the trigger!
Dan

I'm 99% sure it's the unlocked model after looking into it. You should be able to pop your sim in and go.

RealiZms said:
I'm 99% sure it's the unlocked model after looking into it. You should be able to pop your sim in and go.
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Thank you for the response. I just got off a chat with a Republic Wireless rep, and here's what I was told:
1) Model number: XT1635-02 (which I believe is the standard RETUS unlocked model/variant number - so that supports your response)
2) Carrier Unlocked: Yes, the device is unlocked and usable on any compatible network (more support!)
3) Is the bootloader unlockable: First response was vague - Republic does not recommend rooting devices as it can effect the compatibilty of the republic app and impact service. When I pressed for more info, the rep responded that because Republic doesn't recommend rooting reps are not provided with that info, but he recommended I follow a link he sent. The link was to Moto's list of devices eligible for bootloader unlock. The list (as you probably know) indicates that only the Verizon version is not eligible. My interpretation of this portion of the conversation is that the rep was doing his best to say that yes it is bootloader unlockable, without actually coming out and saying that it is (probably due to company policy??).
At any rate, I think the total of the info available seems to indicate that this is indeed a standard unlockable version for a good price.
If anyone else has more info, please keep it coming...
Dan
Edit: given what appears to be a decent 14 day return policy, I decided to pull the trigger. $399 out of pocket for phone + incipio case + tax + 3 day shipping (once it comes off backorder in 1-2 weeks). I'll have to pay for one month of service ($22) before the free 6 months kick in, so overall total cost is around $390 for the phone with that month of paid service. Still $60 less than standard retail, so I'm not gonna complain. $22 for 7 months of service is a great chance to test drive T-Mo effectively and cheaply to see if it's usable for me. If so, maybe jump off the ATT ship I've been on for 15 years once my now long in the tooth S6 is paid off in April.
Looking forward to some more in-depth reading over here...

Glad you made the jump! I switched from sprint to Simple Mobile(T-Mobile) because all out of nowhere t-mobile flipped a lightning switch I'm pulling 22mb/down. I was on AT&T on my nexus 4 and it was a horrible value. Simple and Metro PCS both offer true unlimited for 60$ on T-Mobile network so I had to try and couldn't be happier! On Thursday I dropped out of service area(in the sticks) and successfully roamed data and voice on AT&T! Who knows t-mobile might have you covered? They been expanding like crazy lately. Good luck!

I could've broken 12 hours sot last night......
Get a case. Thing is "slippery".

RealiZms said:
Glad you made the jump! I switched from sprint to Simple Mobile(T-Mobile) because all out of nowhere t-mobile flipped a lightning switch I'm pulling 22mb/down. I was on AT&T on my nexus 4 and it was a horrible value. Simple and Metro PCS both offer true unlimited for 60$ on T-Mobile network so I had to try and couldn't be happier! On Thursday I dropped out of service area(in the sticks) and successfully roamed data and voice on AT&T! Who knows t-mobile might have you covered? They been expanding like crazy lately. Good luck!
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Good to know about simple mobile. If I can roam on ATT, I'll certainly be in no worse shape than I am currently, coverage wise. My big issue with T-Mo is their poor rural coverage - I work in remote-ish areas often, and lack of service is aggravating. AT&T is somewhat better, but I've been with them a long time so I do better pricewise than I can on VZW, which is the coverage king here in the northeast. Had stayed with ATT for a long time for the unlimited in-network mobile to mobile calling, but now just about everyone has unlimited calls, so MVNOs are much more appealing now.
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I could've broken 12 hours sot last night......
Get a case. Thing is "slippery".
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That kind of INSANE battery life is the biggest single factor for me to go to the Z Play. My SGS6 on AT&T, on an exceptional day might squeak out 4 hours of SoT if I do a fairly large amount of low demand browsing in a short time - like 10 hours. It's standby battery drain is horrendous - eats like 4-5% per hour completely idle. No matter what I do, I can't get it better. On a bad day I might get home from work with 15 hours off charger, 20 min SoT, and 30% battery left. I don't really game, or do lots of high demand processor stuff, nor do I use VR, so I don't really have a need for an 821 and super high res screen. The battery life and expandable storage, along with Moto's light touch with android software pushed me towards the Z play over the oneplus 3T. The price drop was the last piece that made me go for it. I have a Moto E 2015 that I use as a media player an backup phone, that will typically pull 4 hours SoT in 24 hours up on most ROMs. Had an LG Optimus G that could have pulled that once in a while too.
As far as slippery - the build on the Z play is much like the SGS6 - which will slide off a table if you look at it wrong (which I do often when it's beeping it's frequent low battery alarms ) So that has always lived its' life in a case. The Moto will do the same, as Republic was offering free shipping with an accessory purchase, so I bought the incipio case.

dandrumheller said:
Good to know about simple mobile. If I can roam on ATT, I'll certainly be in no worse shape than I am currently, coverage wise. My big issue with T-Mo is their poor rural coverage - I work in remote-ish areas often, and lack of service is aggravating. AT&T is somewhat better, but I've been with them a long time so I do better pricewise than I can on VZW, which is the coverage king here in the northeast. Had stayed with ATT for a long time for the unlimited in-network mobile to mobile calling, but now just about everyone has unlimited calls, so MVNOs are much more appealing now.
That kind of INSANE battery life is the biggest single factor for me to go to the Z Play. My SGS6 on AT&T, on an exceptional day might squeak out 4 hours of SoT if I do a fairly large amount of low demand browsing in a short time - like 10 hours. It's standby battery drain is horrendous - eats like 4-5% per hour completely idle. No matter what I do, I can't get it better. On a bad day I might get home from work with 15 hours off charger, 20 min SoT, and 30% battery left. I don't really game, or do lots of high demand processor stuff, nor do I use VR, so I don't really have a need for an 821 and super high res screen. The battery life and expandable storage, along with Moto's light touch with android software pushed me towards the Z play over the oneplus 3T. The price drop was the last piece that made me go for it. I have a Moto E 2015 that I use as a media player an backup phone, that will typically pull 4 hours SoT in 24 hours up on most ROMs. Had an LG Optimus G that could have pulled that once in a while too.
As far as slippery - the build on the Z play is much like the SGS6 - which will slide off a table if you look at it wrong (which I do often when it's beeping it's frequent low battery alarms ) So that has always lived its' life in a case. The Moto will do the same, as Republic was offering free shipping with an accessory purchase, so I bought the incipio case.
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including my past nexus phones the Z play is the fastest phone easily. The screen is beautiful as well. I'm stoked you got a great deal. I got mine on Newegg(nightmare don't ever order from them) for 429.
Give us your thoughts when you get it!

RealiZms said:
including my past nexus phones the Z play is the fastest phone easily. The screen is beautiful as well. I'm stoked you got a great deal. I got mine on Newegg(nightmare don't ever order from them) for 429.
Give us your thoughts when you get it!
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Just (finally) got the Z play tonight, and getting it set up. Had a little miscommunication wth republic, as my order went on backorder due to my case being backordered, and I thought it was due to the phone. Once that got sorted out, republic went out of their way to get it to me ASAP on their dime. My first impressions of their customer service is very positive.
The device is just amazing. Speed and responsiveness blow the S6 out of the water. Everything is just faster. I am VERY impressed. Only messed with the camera a little bit, but in a kitchen with incandescent lights, it took an acceptable shot in hdr wth the flash off. I don't anticipate any daylight camera issues, which is the bulk of my camera use. I can't visually tell the difference in resolution between the Sammy and Moto displays, but the Moto is brighter at any given % brightness setting. Better display in my book.
It appears to be on the standard RETUS software channel, and did not even have republic's app installed on arrival. Activation just required installing the app, verifying account info, and done. I was expecting to be in a 100% black hole of service at home, based on T-Mobile's maps. To my surprise, I get 2 to 3 bars of LTE (-118 dbm on LTE monitor app, so very weak signal) that yields 10mbps down and 2 up. As compared to any ATT device on my microcell, that gets about 1 down and 0.5 up. This is very encouraging, and I'm looking forward to testing coverage elsewhere. I have not yet tried the ATT sim in the Z play.
Biggest (pun intended) downside for me right now is the sheer size of the phone. 5 to 5.2 inch screens are my sweet spot, so this beast is going to take some getting used to. But I've done it before, so I can do it again!
Looking forward to being a member of this community! Thanks for the warm welcome.
Dan
Edit: sim swap appears to work fine. Phone even pulled correct APN without setting it up manually. Pretty slick!

dandrumheller said:
Just (finally) got the Z play tonight, and getting it set up. Had a little miscommunication wth republic, as my order went on backorder due to my case being backordered, and I thought it was due to the phone. Once that got sorted out, republic went out of their way to get it to me ASAP on their dime. My first impressions of their customer service is very positive.
The device is just amazing. Speed and responsiveness blow the S6 out of the water. Everything is just faster. I am VERY impressed. Only messed with the camera a little bit, but in a kitchen with incandescent lights, it took an acceptable shot in hdr wth the flash off. I don't anticipate any daylight camera issues, which is the bulk of my camera use. I can't visually tell the difference in resolution between the Sammy and Moto displays, but the Moto is brighter at any given % brightness setting. Better display in my book.
It appears to be on the standard RETUS software channel, and did not even have republic's app installed on arrival. Activation just required installing the app, verifying account info, and done. I was expecting to be in a 100% black hole of service at home, based on T-Mobile's maps. To my surprise, I get 2 to 3 bars of LTE (-118 dbm on LTE monitor app, so very weak signal) that yields 10mbps down and 2 up. As compared to any ATT device on my microcell, that gets about 1 down and 0.5 up. This is very encouraging, and I'm looking forward to testing coverage elsewhere. I have not yet tried the ATT sim in the Z play.
Biggest (pun intended) downside for me right now is the sheer size of the phone. 5 to 5.2 inch screens are my sweet spot, so this beast is going to take some getting used to. But I've done it before, so I can do it again!
Looking forward to being a member of this community! Thanks for the warm welcome.
Dan
Edit: sim swap appears to work fine. Phone even pulled correct APN without setting it up manually. Pretty slick!
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Yes, the size of this phone is its only real fault but you'll get used to it after a week or so. I wish they would have trimmed the bezel a bit but they want the Z to be super thin which meant a bigger body to fit the internals, and since the Z line has to have a similar form factor because of the mods, the Z Play suffers from it. The only good thing about all this is the larger battery on our device.

DadOudidOuda said:
Yes, the size of this phone is its only real fault but you'll get used to it after a week or so. I wish they would have trimmed the bezel a bit but they want the Z to be super thin which meant a bigger body to fit the internals, and since the Z line has to have a similar form factor because of the mods, the Z Play suffers from it. The only good thing about all this is the larger battery on our device.
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That's a good point I hadn't really thought of - that the mods drive the size is clear - but I hadn't really considered that as a driver of the larger battery. I'll take it! ?
Edit: also, this thing plays way nicer with my Garmin watch. Sammy frequently had random disconnects. Rock solid so far with the Moto. The is my first ever "good" phone with a factory ROM that is close to stock Android.
Edit 2: trying like hell to kill it today. Seeing roughly 6% drain per hour with screen on, 1% or a hair more per hour screen off. The absolute best I've ever seen on any other phone I've had (Aria, S2, LGOG, S6, Moto E 2) has been 10% per hour screen on, and that was usually with a bunch of ebook reading, so very low demand on battery). I've got every possible battery draining service turned on on this thing, and it just barely sips power. On pace for something like 12 hours SoT at 32 hours off charger. How is this phone not hugely more popular??

Pics for edit 2 above.

I hope I don't get crucified for bumping this thread ?
I'm curious though if you ended up rooting this phone while still using Republic Wireless. According to your Profile you're using AT&T so I take it you ended up switching back. A couple of years ago I got hit with amnesia and I don't remember how on earth I rooted my Moto Z Play. Been using it with Republic Wireless since I got it back in 2016 and I apparently rooted my phone in January 2017 and it's worked (I think) but over the past year it's gotten slower and slower and has weird issues with connections, like sometimes when I receive a call as soon as I answer it the phone makes a beeping noise 3 times then hangs up. Decided I would try upgrading the phone to Oreo but I have no idea how to do this since my phone is rooted and I don't remember how to unroot it

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Are you satisfied with your Galaxy Nexus?

I'm probably gonna buy the Samsung Galaxy Nexus tomorrow, but I'm not sure 100% yet, cause it's a lot of money.
Are you satisfied with that phone and would you buy it again?
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I'm probably gonna buy the Samsung Galaxy Nexus tomorrow, but I'm not sure 100% yet, cause it's a lot of money.
Are you satisfied with that phone and would you buy it again?
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I'd say it depends on a few factors. What phone you're coming from, as some ppl might see a big increase in performance/functionality and others not as much. If you're willing to spend a lot to purchase it outright in the US (I'm assuming US cuz you said lot of money) and what carrier/service you'll put it on.
I received mine last night and am very happy with it. I was using an EVO 3D on Sprint prior. I feel it is a minor upgrade from the EVO 3D as performance wise they were both fairly quick, but I really do like ICS.
Price wise, it cost a ton of money and I would say that is the biggest limiting factor for me, personally.
Carrier/service wise, I set it up on Tmo ($30 a month, 100 min and unlimited data) which I don't receive a signal for at home and at work, the signal is pretty good but the data speeds are slow. I previously had though Sprint was pretty slow, but Tmo is much slower where I'm at.
Not as big of a deal as I don't make phone calls often and am usually on WiFi, home & work.
The other main driving factor for me was there are no discount plans I've seen on Verizon as that is the only carrier guaranteed to get the Galaxy Nexus in the next month. The only other option to get the Galaxy Nexus in the US within the next month or two would be to get the unlocked GSM version. This is definitely based on my personal speculation from articles/news I've read and previous release patterns for Google devices.
Hope that helps!
Im coming from HTC Hero (slow as ****), so it'd be a major upgrade for me. I'm on 20€/month with unlimited data, unlimited sms and 100 minutes of talking and since I'm living in Berlin I always have 3g. So that's not the problem.
I'm scared of the battery life... HTC Hero lasts 3-5 days and the new smartphones (eg the sensation of a friend lasts 1 day) are empty after a day
Guess im gonna try it anyway. Thx for your post.
If you are on T-Mobile or AT&T already as a customer, and have a good plan which you want to keep, there is the option of buying from Expansys or another importer. For this, you'll get the European version which is pentaband and can work with both these networks.
The catch is you'll have to pay about $700+ for an unlocked, full usable phone. It is not subsidized, and some reports on the net suggest that these carriers won't get it until next spring. That's what I and many others have done that are reporting they already have a SGN. Most of us feel it is worth it, since the phone is so good.
Good luck.
Bought from newegg last friday and got it on monday and havent looked back... love it as its works for at&t and not have to sell this and re-buy to get the one that works for me lol... but seriously if your okay with the price tag then go for it. its great!
I am on Tmo, got my nexus yesterday. I'm coming from the G2 and DAMN what a difference! This screen is beautiful. I got mine from expansys btw.
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Even though I don't have LTE on it like my old Thunderbolt, I'm much more satisfied with the Galaxy Nexus
Yes.
The Galaxy Nexus has reminded me why I chose Android in the first place.
Very expensive.... but it is a great phone! Use Volume+ to turn the speaker up.
I owned an HTC Tatto, then HTC Hero, then HTC Desire.
And now the Galaxy Nexus.
I'm 100% satisfaied. I will buy it again no doubt.
All the phones have their pros an cons. For me this one is all I wanted, one step forward for sure.
Yes.
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I ordered mine from clove technologies in the UK last week and received it yesterday. I was using an HTC sensation on T-Mobile , and as specs are similar, the nexus blows it away by how optimized the software is for the hardware. Someone in a post before me hit the nail on the head, this reminds me of exactly why I love android. Great phone , you won't be disappointed.
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Scared with the battery too.
Put the battery in the GN, full charge it, then first boot, after 3h of use my battery was at 65% :/
Hop calibration of the battery will make it better, or i'll sell it and by an HTC like i always have in the past.
I get 15 - 25 hours of use on the battery, depending on how I use it. Nice!
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That battery sucks. It is worse than GSII. You will see it.
Considering my previous phone was a Samsung Vibrant, the GNex is a great improvement. I finally have a working GPS and this phone will get timely updates. The screen is excellent. ICS 4.0 is very smooth. 4.0 takes a little bit getting used to but thats the beauty of being an early adopter. Battery life is better. For me it is anyway. I ran CM 7.1 on the Vibrant and battery life was horrible. The Vibrant could have been a much better phone but i mostly blame Tmobile for that. Ive said it before that i will never again get locked into a carrier branded phone as long as i can help it.
Just got mine last night. I think the screen is beautiful, ICS is nice, but takes a little bit getting used to. My wi-fi seems quite slow downloading stuff for some reason. I get better speed on 3G. Not sure what's up.
Also, it's kinda choppy when going between the apps and home screen back and forth. Everyone was raving how fast and smooth ICS was... not impressed so far. My SGS2 seems smoother...
Cell and wi-fi signals seem a bit weaker than my SGS2.
Can't get facebook to sync with my contacts at all... not sure what I need to do...
So overall, it's still a beautiful phone and I'm gonna keep it, but I guess I had really high expectations from reading all the reviews, and I was a bit disappointed...
If anyone knows any fixes especially for syncing with facebook, let me know
Got it this morning, and am totally in love with it.
Before the nexus i was using the Galaxy S1 for almost a year and the last month a iPhone 4s (which i got from work). Now i have a new love and its called Nexus.
imfloflo said:
Scared with the battery too.
Put the battery in the GN, full charge it, then first boot, after 3h of use my battery was at 65% :/
Hop calibration of the battery will make it better, or i'll sell it and by an HTC like i always have in the past.
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Yeah , you are right. The battery is my only gripe about this phone . It drains a little too quickly for my liking. I'm going to buy a spare battery with the wall charger offline to be able to rotate between the two. Hopefully the new has a little bit more juice. Has anyone found any extended batteries for the GSM version yet?
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At first I did not. So much so I traded my first GN away. The sheer size combined with other mentioned drawbacks had me dump it as fast as I could. I moved on and I remember groping in my pocket and thinking why is my phone so small? It just sort of grows on you and it sat rustling in the back of my brain. Ordered one the next day. This is now my daily driver. Once you embraced the quirks of stock it really does grow on you. The size is still a bit big for my taste but:
F#%@ Yes. I'm really digging it. Grab one, the hell with waiting.

EVO3D to Galaxy Nexus

Hi all -
Wanted some opinions from anyone that used to have the EVO 3D and made the switch over the this phone.
I've been a long time fan of HTC, however I want something different, better (?) and of course native ICS.
Is this THE phone to have right now or is the Droid Razer a better option?
I'm an advanced user, I flash ROMs , root etc.. I know what's up..
Thanks!
I personally made this jump myself . For starters leaving Sprint and going to any network (atleast in my area) will give you lightyears better service . I now have high speed 3G access compared to Sprint . Im sure this will be the same regardless if you are going to Tmobile or Verizon or AT&T . Second the device , at one time I held HTC in high regards with their devices even though the battery life left something to be desired . I feel the Nexus gets better battery life then the EVO 3D ever could dream of . The screen on the Nexus makes the Evo3D screen look like crap in my opinion . Overall I havent missed the 3D since I jumped ship. I to used to flash roms and kernels on the EVO3D but I have found even though I rooted my Nexus as it stands by itself with out messing with it . The Nexus is a very enjoyable phone to use straight out of the box . Some say Samsung has a plastic like feel to it . To be honest most of my phones are always in a case so I dont really notice it all that much . Personally I dont think you will miss Sense that much unless you really utillized all the things sense put into android . Me I never really used much of the sense aspects of the HTC's , I always rooted them and went to the closest to AOSP I could get . On the development side of things , Roms and kernels are starting to pick up pace . With the Nexus being a developer phone in the first place there is always going to be a following with it . Unlike the transition I expierenced when I went from the EVO4G to the EVO3D . Development for the 4G was great lots to choose from then went to 3D and HTC's poor handling of unlocking the bootloader and the devs migrated to other phones and the Evo line development stalled out . Atleast in the 3D side of things it did in my opinion . Overall I I dont miss sprint and its unlimited slow as hell network . The Evo3D is a thing of the past to me and I laugh everytime I see one now knowing I used to have one . Also as a side note I feel the Nexus 5 MP cam takes way better pics then the EVO3D 5MP ever did . This is nothing more than my opinion gathered from my own expierence so take it with a grain of salt . But personally I dont think you will be disappointed .
Since RAZR is Motorola. And this is a Nexus device, you stated you flash ROMs.
I'd go with Galaxy Nexus because its a developer phone and you'll get great support with numerous developers.
I made the jump. (TLDR at the bottom)
Network
Verizon's network is miles better than Sprint's. I get service in places that Sprint doesn't even know exist. For 4G networks there isn't even a competition. With Sprint I topped out at 7 Mbps. With Verizon if I get anything less than 20 I think there is a problem. Coveragewise I've driven 80 miles and haven't left 4G coverage yet.
Phone
The Galaxy Nexus is skinny and curvy at the same time. It is way thinner and lighter than the brick Evo 3D I used to carry around. Be careful, the Galaxy Nexus is very delicate. I dropped it once and it cracked the screen. I remember one time I dropped my Evo 3D and it cracked the sidewalk. The screen is not as big as people try to make out to be and it looks beautiful (at higher brightnesses, it can look very bad at lower brightness). If you think your Evo 3D speaker volume is too low you are in for a rude surprise with the Galaxy Nexus. The speaker on this is quieter than Britney Spears' dietitian. I got pretty good battery life with Evo 3D but the Galaxy Nexus is better. I just imagine how much better it will be when the fix these bugs in ICS (more on that later). Earpiece quality is slightly better. Sound quality through headphones is immensely better. The NFC hardware included is a bonus. I don't know if this is hardware or software but the Galaxy Nexus charges freakishly fast. It is the fastest charging phone I have ever seen.
Stock ICS vs Sense Gingerbread
You already know. I don't even run a ROM because ICS is that good. Smooth as a baby's bottom. I have some complaints but most of those are not ICS faults, they are general Android faults. I HATE HATE HATE the contact pictures. If somebody calls you it shows a blurry low-res (but blown up to almost full screen) picture if they don't have Google+. It has been this way for a long time but the problem is worse now. When I see this 96x96 picture blown up on my gorgeous 720p screen I wanna puke. As far as ICS (HC) specific complaints, you might have a problem with the lack of USB mass storage. Also, the option to share a contact with a text message is gone. You can only share them via email or bluetooth. Finally ICS suffers from a horrible bug that causes "Android OS" to keep the phone awake for a crazy amount of time. If I leave it sitting idle overnight (8 hours), Android OS keep awake time will be 7+ hours. It doesn't let the phone sleep properly and causes unnecessary battery drain. Despite this I leave LTE on all day and still get better battery life than the Evo 3D.
TLDR:Verizon is way better and faster than Sprint. The Galaxy Nexus is way sexier and prettier than the Evo 3D. ICS is way better than GB.
Thanks everyone!
These are all great replies. Very insightful. I just need to make up my mind once and for all.
Upon my searches through the interwebz I come across Sprints Landing page for the Nexus.
( I can't post links here yet due to post count, I've been banned 3 times! for making the MODs cry)
That certainly puts a kink in my plans. The main issue being is that no other carrier offers truly unlimited data. They milk you for an additional addon package that is always ridiculous.
I pay a flat 130 a month, NO MATTER how many text, web data, etc are used. My company uses an exchange account as well, EVERY email has a 500KB picture or some kind of attachment. 200+ emails a day received. I use a lot of data.
With Sprint getting this phone and LTE sometime this year, it's tough for me to move now.. But I will keep everyones posts in mind.
Thanks again.
I also switched from the Evo 3D, and do not regret it whatsoever.
First of all, I was SO sick of Sprint's 3G service (if you could even call it that), and 4g? I got it almost nowhere. It's night and day going from Sprint to Verizon.
Now the phones themselves are somewhat similar, large screens with good ppi, 5mp decent cameras, kinda ****ty battery life, 1.2ghz dualcore processors, same ram, etc.
The thing about the Nexus is that in almost every one of those specs, it's at least slightly better. Not to mention it's got ICS, the bootloader easily unlocks, and no wait for root after OTAs.
I thought I would hate the side power button, the super plasticky design, and the single-led flash that's all been known to come from Samsung. Honestly, I love the power button on the side, with a screen this large (and even the Evo's screen), it's much easier to push with your thumb instead of the top. The plastic is only on the back really, and feels much tougher and well put together than my 3Vo. And the single LED flash is still plenty bright and works great for pictures.
I thought I would miss 3D, even just a little bit. Not so, I don't miss it. I mean, it was cool at parties, but that was about it. You are going to LOVE how quickly the nexus takes pictures, I feel like I'm walking around with a DSLR that can snap 5 pictures a second, it's awesome!
A tip: if you can buy out an old verizon contract, even if they aren't upgrade eligible, do it just for the unlimited data. Verizon 4G is super easy to eat through your data cap. I almost did this (would have lost my number) but then found the "hack" to get unlimited data, which is still in effect. Also, try to get on a family plan if you can, I switched myself from Sprint and my family from ATT, and I'm now paying almost half of what I did on a single Sprint account, with insurance and no discount! Btw, look to see if there is currently a way to get out of Sprint ETF free, I did it in September when they made a materially adverse change by adding a small $2 fee to everyone's bill, so getting to verizon didn't cost an arm and a leg.
Long story short: Get the Gnex if you can get unlimited data. Otherwise, plan on using WiFi whenever possible, and still get the gnex. I wouldn't advise if you plan on using cloud storage for music, because I use google music a LOT, and it EATS data. Also, but the extended battery, worth every penny.
If you have time to read my weird phone situation:
Unfortunately, I did end up having to use a burner phone for 3 months while I waited and waited for the Gnex to arrive. That was an aggravating 3 months, it was literally the worst POS phone ever. It had a cracked screen, was an extremely damaged and scratched to hell Samsung flip phone I got out of a recycling bin for phones I used to get out of my sprint contract before the last day to get out ETF free without losing my phone number. It had pr0n of the previous owner's wife on it too, crazy stuff. Worst thing was it only held 50 text messages, kept having to erase my old ones.

Queries before buying

Hello Prowd G3 Owners,
How are you all?
I was wondering to buy this beautiful phone, but I thought to ask you owners two things which are bothering me very much.
1. Battery Issues. Presently I use S2 and will be switching to G3, If I am getting better battery backup. i dont know, I have read mixed views about battery from websites, so I wanted your personalized views on battery. My usage = When I dont use, I rarely picks up the phone, just to check text messages. But When I use it, I make sure the usage is heavy(Games mostly, or hours of chatting, minimal browsing though).
So kindly assist in this matter.
2. Will there be any need of ROM changing? Presently I am using CM11 on my s2 as I was fed up with touchwiz(yuck),
Even if your answer is yes, then I still not see any development in this sector as compared to other competitors?
3. If you had the opportunity to choose any other phone, what would that be (with similar g3 specs, you can choose g3 also )?
4. Does Quickcircle case provides impact protection?
5. Does LG causes any hassles if you want to replace your damaged screen under one-time screen replacement scheme?
I thank you in advance,
Neeraj.
kyuubisiddhanth said:
Hello Prowd G3 Owners,
How are you all?
I was wondering to buy this beautiful phone, but I thought to ask you owners two things which are bothering me very much.
1. Battery Issues. Presently I use S2 and will be switching to G3, If I am getting better battery backup. i dont know, I have read mixed views about battery from websites, so I wanted your personalized views on battery. My usage = When I dont use, I rarely picks up the phone, just to check text messages. But When I use it, I make sure the usage is heavy(Games mostly, or hours of chatting, minimal browsing though).
So kindly assist in this matter.
Standby time on the LG G3 is immensely good. As you can see from my signature one of my previous phones was the LG G2 and that was the king of battery life for me, both stand by and regular usage. I've been using the G3 for some time now and the battery life matches the G2 which in itself is impressive considering the higher resolution screen. At first i was a bit disappointed but it took a few days/cycles for it to settle.
For instance, on days i get to work at 10am, usually have 2 email accounts pooling every hour, Google services all auto-syncing (Gmail, Calendar, Drive, Keep, Photos backup, etc), Whatsapp, BBM, Weather every 3 hours, etc, i'm usually still at 90% by 2 pm when i go for break. Kill it quite a bit on break with news reading, games, web etc, and still in the 70's when i knock of at 6pm. Kill it some more on the train ride home and in the low 60's by 7.30pm.
2. Will there be any need of ROM changing? Presently I am using CM11 on my s2 as I was fed up with touchwiz(yuck),
Even if your answer is yes, then I still not see any development in this sector as compared to other competitors?
I've always been of the opinion that the best ROM is always stock rooted, and that's what i run on mine. The stock LG G3 ROM is just fine and runs really good. I freeze whatever bloat i don't care for with Titanium Backup. As luck would have it, bootloader unlock (and hence custom recovery needed to flash custom ROMS, if that's your thing) just became available for the LG G3 device-wide. So have at it when the ROMS start flooding in.
3. If you had the opportunity to choose any other phone, what would that be (with similar g3 specs, you can choose g3 also )?
By far, the Sony Z3 or Z3 Compact. Solid battery life, water proof, great camera, etc. Always wanted Sony Xperia devices but sadly they have a phobia for Sprint as a carrier. Nexus 6 only if it was 5.2 inches or less, Moto X 2014 only if it had a better battery (only 100mAh more than 2013 model, yet bigger 5"+ 1080p screen ) and camera. I have the Moto X 2013 currently as well, impressive, but terrible camera and battery could be better.
4. Does Quickcircle case provides impact protection?
Have the case, but don't use it (got it free, definitely wouldn't have paid for it anyway). Like any other case covering your phone it's something that would save it from scratches and nicks and dings if your phone fell out your hands and was otherwise naked. I personally don't like it and use another case.
5. Does LG causes any hassles if you want to replace your damaged screen under one-time screen replacement scheme?
Not sure/don't know about this specifically.
I thank you in advance,
Neeraj.
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If you can find a good price on it, go for it.
1. I have a similar use case as yours, and I've never had any issues with battery so far. I get through a day pretty easily with screen on times of 5-6 hours which is good enough.
2. Stock ROM with minor root based improvements is quite decent with not much lag. I've used Touchwiz before and I find LG stock UI much better than Touchwiz. Ofcourse, fully functional CM & AOSP would be far better and I plan to switch to it immediately when available. The bootloader has only just been bypassed so ROM dev will kick up soon.
3. HTC One m8 or Nexus 6 (depending on how big it actually feels on hand). But I had that choice with M8 while going for the G3 so that's my take on it.
4. Yes and No. Depends on where the impact occurs. The cutout on front leaves that area of screen damage prone but the back is pretty well covered. A little less than a proper case though since the Quick Circle case essentially replaces the back cover.
5. Not sure about that. Thankfully I've not had to deal with them regarding this & hopefully I won't have to.
Thank you.
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Here prices at online retailers is around 34k after all discounts. That's best in terms of spec/cost ratio.
Also LG India giving free 6 month insurance i guess, circle case and discount on lg g watch worth 10000 INR.
Also can you please post your gaming experience in words, or any performance grudge you hold against g3.
I know no phone is perfect, but I'd like to weigh my options here.
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1. I have a similar use case as yours, and I've never had any issues with battery so far. I get through a day pretty easily with screen on times of 5-6 hours which is good enough.
Please tell me more about your experience of gaming on g3? Is it better, worse, or average. I do plan to use this phone for atleast 4 years, if I buy it. Hence, I hope it does not get outdated. What are your views on this? (Know H/W wise it might be, but still my s2 works like a charm on CM11 and is able to play asphalt 8 flawlessly, though on low settings. )
2. Stock ROM with minor root based improvements is quite decent with not much lag. I've used Touchwiz before and I find LG stock UI much better than Touchwiz. Ofcourse, fully functional CM & AOSP would be far better and I plan to switch to it immediately when available. The bootloader has only just been bypassed so ROM dev will kick up soon.
Ohh Ok..
3. HTC One m8 or Nexus 6 (depending on how big it actually feels on hand). But I had that choice with M8 while going for the G3 so that's my take on it.
N6 is quite costly as compared to other nexus devices. Although, it is for the specs its offering, I personally dont feel that s801 soc will be outdated soon enough. One M8 is big, specially those front speakers, added to its physical area. I personally dont like on-screen buttons, so was less oriented towards m8.
4. Yes and No. Depends on where the impact occurs. The cutout on front leaves that area of screen damage prone but the back is pretty well covered. A little less than a proper case though since the Quick Circle case essentially replaces the back cover.
Thanks for the info.
5. Not sure about that. Thankfully I've not had to deal with them regarding this & hopefully I won't have to.
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As for gaming, no complaints here. Handles anything i've thrown at it, Leo's Fortune, Boxtrolls, Manuganu, Skyforce, to name a few.
kyuubisiddhanth said:
Here prices at online retailers is around 34k after all discounts. That's best in terms of spec/cost ratio.
Also LG India giving free 6 month insurance i guess, circle case and discount on lg g watch worth 10000 INR.
Also can you please post your gaming experience in words, or any performance grudge you hold against g3.
I know no phone is perfect, but I'd like to weigh my options here.
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1. Absolutely no problems with gaming performance wise on the G3. The only issue is that is gets heated up if you're playing a games with the brightness cranked up. Personally, I play games at ~50% brightness which is good enough and doesn't heat up as much.
3. Same here. 801 definitely won't get outdated anytime soon, but since you're picking up a new device at full price and planning to keep it for 4 years I'd suggest you wait a bit to get a feel for the N6 atleast before making a decision. As for the M8, yeah I know where you're coming from. I had to decide between the M8 & the G3 too and I went for the G3 mainly because of the much better design at a larger screen size. Although durability wise the M8 will definitely handle some rough usage better than the G3.
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1. Absolutely no problems with gaming performance wise on the G3. The only issue is that is gets heated up if you're playing a games with the brightness cranked up. Personally, I play games at ~50% brightness which is good enough and doesn't heat up as much.
3. Same here. 801 definitely won't get outdated anytime soon, but since you're picking up a new device at full price and planning to keep it for 4 years I'd suggest you wait a bit to get a feel for the N6 atleast before making a decision. As for the M8, yeah I know where you're coming from. I had to decide between the M8 & the G3 too and I went for the G3 mainly because of the much better design at a larger screen size. Although durability wise the M8 will definitely handle some rough usage better than the G3.
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Yea, I was thinking the same but N6 is approximated to cost ~42K INR. While G3 is ~8k less.
My first bike costed 49k. So I dont want to go beyond 35k for a phone as of now. I hope you understand my conundrum.
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As for gaming, no complaints here. Handles anything i've thrown at it, Leo's Fortune, Boxtrolls, Manuganu, Skyforce, to name a few.
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if4ct0r said:
1. Absolutely no problems with gaming performance wise on the G3. The only issue is that is gets heated up if you're playing a games with the brightness cranked up. Personally, I play games at ~50% brightness which is good enough and doesn't heat up as much.
3. Same here. 801 definitely won't get outdated anytime soon, but since you're picking up a new device at full price and planning to keep it for 4 years I'd suggest you wait a bit to get a feel for the N6 atleast before making a decision. As for the M8, yeah I know where you're coming from. I had to decide between the M8 & the G3 too and I went for the G3 mainly because of the much better design at a larger screen size. Although durability wise the M8 will definitely handle some rough usage better than the G3.
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Is there any real user review of the device as whole. (Not of tech sites) on youtube or blogs??
Thanks for help again.

Would you recommend the Nexus?

I'm thinking of buying one, it's in the price range I'm looking at ($80-$100 on swappa), and it seems like it still has good dev support.
The Nexus is almost 3 years old, those that still have it, are you keeping it because you like it, or just because (don't want to loose your data plan for example).
Thanks
Dan
It's a decent phone and there is still some Dev support. I bought mine about a year ago and have been satisfied. Battery life sucks compared to newer phones signal isn't to great compared to my RAZR. But all in all it having an unlocked BL on Verizon makes it all worth while. I thoroughly enjoy mine and will only move if nexus 6 is unlocked on Verizon.
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I can join my previous speakers. It has a very bad battery, it's lags often in apps and the screen is very worn because of this early AMOLED technologie, BUT if you have only 100€ its one of the better phones. I'm using it right now because my nexus 5 were broken and I really like it because it just works. However if you have $50 more to spend when you should buy the moto g. It has clearly more power and offical support by motorola.
no. this phone is terrible, and i'm currently looking into buying a replacement battery for my S3 since it's been sitting in my drawer and i have no idea where the battery went, plus it's broken
i can probably find some way to fix it on ADB, but if not, i'll just wait until i upgrade then i'll get the oneplus one
seriously this phone sucks, there is nothing to recommend about it
No man dont do it .. phone performance is pretty random, dont know why, sometimes it flies like an S4, sometimes it lagz and freezes like an S1..
I've been very satisfied with my phones performance. But I wouldn't recommend it if you don't like to mess around with kernels, ROMs and settings.
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Maximinus I said:
I've been very satisfied with my phones performance. But I wouldn't recommend it if you don't like to mess around with kernels, ROMs and settings.
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Thanks for all the responses. I actually do like flashing roms. Should've given more info in OP. I currently have a verizon s4 but since a warranty replacement a few months ago i no longer have an unlocked (exploitable) bootloader and am stuck with touchwiz roms and no custom kernels.
Use my phone mostly for web browsing, xda app, Pandora, Google music - no gaming, coupled that with the fact that i can use the $100-$125 difference I'll make after selling the s4, thought this phone might work.
Will have to think about it a bit more.
rrrrrrredbelly said:
Thanks for all the responses. I actually do like flashing roms. Should've given more info in OP. I currently have a verizon s4 but since a warranty replacement a few months ago i no longer have an unlocked (exploitable) bootloader and am stuck with touchwiz roms and no custom kernels.
Use my phone mostly for web browsing, xda app, Pandora, Google music - no gaming, coupled that with the fact that i can use the $100-$125 difference I'll make after selling the s4, thought this phone might work.
Will have to think about it a bit more.
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Well, web browsing has become hard since 4.4.x. To be honest, KitKat is a mess on this phone. I hope new GPU drivers and 3.4 kernel will help.
If I were you I would buy a Moto G.
I'm using Gnex for a half a year. I bought used. So not because of data plan.
For me Gnex can still give what i need for "normal" daily use - sms, browser, messenger, driving assist, news reading, some games ....
So it depends on your need
best regards
It's a beautiful device, but it's definitely not the best. I absolutely love the unobtrusive design of the front -- just plain black. The phone is the exact right size for me, and the volume and power buttons are in exactly the right place; however the bezels are quite large in comparison to newer phones. This makes the structural integrity of the phone better, but it isn't really nice to me. The back of the phone has a comfortable plastic "grippy" feeling that makes it easy to hold, especially with the curved extrusion at the bottom by the speaker grill.
The speaker is awful, as with all Samsung devices. It's a back-facing speaker that's tiny and easy to cover up. Not much of a problem if you use earphones like I do.
It easily lasts me through a school day, though it only lasts about 4 hours streaming video. Its dual core processor is definitely outdated and consumes far more powererformance than any modern phone.
The screen is on-par with the Galaxy S3 screen, which isn't a compliment. It's low-resolution in comparison to new phones (1280x720), it's hot (as in it actually feels hot) and consumes a heck of a lot of battery very quickly. The colour is amazing, vibrant and simply gorgeous... but, within a few months, you get screen burn-in which is especially noticeable in low light -- speaking of which, the screen in low light is far worse than any IPS with a slightly grainy image, though it does retain a good contrast. Its slightly curved display prevents it from scratching anything facing down and, in my opinion, makes it easier to touch things at the top of the screen.
The phone's radio is only GSM (unless you're going for Sprint or Verizon), so if you're wanting LTE, tough luck. It also doesn't have FM or AM radio if you're into that.
The camera's not the best, but it does the job. The flash is often over-bright, and lacks HDR, motion stabilisation and is only 5 Megapixels. Front camera is 720p.
So why buy this phone? If you can get it really cheap, go for it. If not, go for something newer like the Moto X, Moto G, Nexus 5 or the upcoming Nexus 6 for a similar, updated experience.
Just remember, it's truly an Android modder's dream. It's extremely mod-able with a decent sized community. In my opinion, it is still the best phone I have ever used. I find that just the pure feeling and look of the phone is enough to keep me with it. Also, with recent additions to the phone like F2FS, graphics drivers, new kernels, new ROMs etc., the phone is still very usable for just about everything -- even most gaming.
For $100 i would buy it. The moto g is comparable and faster but almost $100 more. But I think your question is already answered
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bought mine for 70 dollars one month ago, definetily worth it.
I would much rather use an s4 with touchwiz than use a galaxy nexus. The gnex is the second worst android phone that I've ever owned.
You really can't compare a three year old phone to a phone that is just over a year old. Of course the s4 will be better but touchwizz yuck it would probably be just as slow as a galaxy nexus.
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Appreciate everyone's response, thanks
It's a good phone when it was released but the battery life is quite short even though I don't have a lot of apps on it. When the battery life is in the red, it usually last around 5 minutes then it shuts down. I think it was better than than iPhone 4 at its time since it was one of the first phone with a larger screen.
I agree with the other posts.
Honestly, I think CM10 runs amazing on the phone and the signal is actually quite good with that version. 4.4.4 doesn't do well on it for the signal...at least for me. I have been trying many ROMs / Kernels and I have the same luck with them all. I only have mine because I bought it for like $80 on ebay and still have the unlimited plan with Verizon so I don't want to upgrade to a new phone unless I pay the big dollars.
Battery life...is crap like everyone else states. I bought three batteries for this phone for that reason and always have it plugged in, which is why I actually have burn in from my apps.
I own GNex for almost 3 years now and here are few things coming into my mind right now:
Terrible camera
Terrible speaker (Very low volume)
Slow as hell
Worn screen
Incredibly short battery life
Also, with such limited memory multitasking is pretty much not existent if you like installing many apps
Honestly, there is not a single day that I don't want to throw my unit against the wall.
Do yourself a favor and stay away from this peace of junk.
N4 would be a much better option http://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked/us
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I'm thinking of buying one, it's in the price range I'm looking at ($80-$100 on swappa), and it seems like it still has good dev support.
The Nexus is almost 3 years old, those that still have it, are you keeping it because you like it, or just because (don't want to loose your data plan for example).
Thanks
Dan
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I'm keeping it because I don't have much money on a new phone and there isn't much on the market that really makes me want to spend anything.
The Galaxy Nexus is a really ****ty phone. If it wasn't a Nexus it would get zero respect from me.
I mean for an old and cheap phone, it's probably the best you can buy at this moment but I'd suggest saving a few more dollars and getting something better.
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N4 would be a much better option http://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked/us
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Thanks but on verizon, looks like that gsm only.

Anyone done the Verizon G-Pad X 8.3 deal with purchase of the LG G4 ??

Verizon is offering the new LG G Pad X at reduced price of $49.99 if you buy a LG G4. For $10/mo add'l to your current plan it can be added and get's full time LTE, 4g and 3G that you share with your phone's data plan. Sound like an amazing deal, but I'm worried this tablet is junk spec wise and will be sluggish and a pain to use for anything other than low bandwith surfing and reading books.
So unfortunately, I can't find any information on this new G Pad X. I think it has a Snap 615 Octa-core, but I read somewhere it only has 1 gig of RAM down from the original G Pad that 2gb of RAM. Has anyone taken advantage of this Vzw special and played with this tablet?
I have the tablet, it's working great so far. Hoping this weekend to try a few things to root it since it is still 5.0. It is a 615 offshore, with 1884 megs ram and 9.33 gigs available storage when clean (16 gig total with system, etc). All this verified in cpu-z. Full size usb port is nice. Battery is great... I'm at 28 h on, one hour screen on time almost all gaming kotor, and at 69%
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I have the tablet, it's working great so far. Hoping this weekend to try a few things to root it since it is still 5.0. It is a 615 offshore, with 1884 megs ram and 9.33 gigs available storage when clean (16 gig total with system, etc). All this verified in cpu-z. Full size usb port is nice. Battery is great... I'm at 28 h on, one hour screen on time almost all gaming kotor, and at 69%
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That's great to hear. I'm guessing it isn't a powerhouse of a tablet but for 50 bucks it's a steal!
Can you let me know if you run into any hiccups with it?
I do a little online gaming with my phone but I'd love to switch over to a 8" tablet!
The only real complaint so far is that the time to rotate the screen seems excessive... But everything else had been butter smooth. A decent replacement for my nexus 7 2013. Wish it had more storage, but with an sd slot and a full size usb, that's not a big deal at all
Yeah I went ahead and got it. And I'm really loving having the LTE service on it instead of just wifi and it's been surprisingly smooth. Also to answer my earlier concern, it does have 2gb of RAM, not 1.
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one hour screen on time almost all gaming kotor, and at 69%
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One hour screen on time and at 69%? That's pretty horrendous for a tablet.
An hour of 3d gaming, and 30 hours almost off the charger. That's way better than my nexus 7 wifi ever did
I haven't been paying close attention to battery life because I knew it had the 4800mAH, although now that I think about it, I did a moderate to heavy use day yesterday with it and had to put it on the car charger around 6pm. I started my day around 9am at 100%. At work today so really won't use it that much, just at lunch. I'll see how it holds up.
In general I really like it coming from an ASUS 10" T100. An 8.3" is a much better size for me as far as handling it. Also it's not quite as pretty as a new galaxy tab screen but it friggin blows my ASUS away. It's also very snappy and gaming and surfing have been basically studderless. I haven't researched it yet, but I wonder if there's any benefit to having a LG G4 and G-Pad.... you would think LG would have some kind of sync option other than just the android standard stuff like email, contacts, messaging, google play.
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I haven't been paying close attention to battery life because I knew it had the 4800mAH, although now that I think about it, I did a moderate to heavy use day yesterday with it and had to put it on the car charger around 6pm. I started my day around 9am at 100%. At work today so really won't use it that much, just at lunch. I'll see how it holds up.
In general I really like it coming from an ASUS 10" T100. An 8.3" is a much better size for me as far as handling it. Also it's not quite as pretty as a new galaxy tab screen but it friggin blows my ASUS away. It's also very snappy and gaming and surfing have been basically studderless. I haven't researched it yet, but I wonder if there's any benefit to having a LG G4 and G-Pad.... you would think LG would have some kind of sync option other than just the android standard stuff like email, contacts, messaging, google play.
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There's the Qpair app, that lets you see/respond to notifications from your phone on the tablet. Worked with my g3 before shipping it back, so not exclusive to g4, but nice still.
Yea I have a LG 7" tablet with a SD 400, Nexus 7 2013, a Winbook with windows, and now the X8.3.
I haven't touched it yet outside of general factory reset and setup since I've been playing with my G4. Work bought it so I can juggle tasks when I travel.
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Yea I have a LG 7" tablet with a SD 400, Nexus 7 2013, a Winbook with windows, and now the X8.3.
I haven't touched it yet outside of general factory reset and setup since I've been playing with my G4. Work bought it so I can juggle tasks when I travel.
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Its rootable btw using the LG rooting COM procedure.
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I walked into my local Verizon store with the hopes of trading in my iPhone 4S for a Droid Turbo 2. I found out that I didn't have to pay anything upfront for the phone I wanted. As I was about to leave the store already over the moon with the Turbo 2 the sales person asked me what I planned to do with the iPhone 4S and I replied "Nothing, I had no plans for it". He then told me that I could trade it in for a FREE tablet and he showed me the LG G Pad X 8.3. I jumped on the offer due to the size and stylus. I have been using it for about a month and I can say that for a free tablet it is pretty good. The screen is vibrant and clear and the speakers sound average. I have ran into what I call "LG Lag" where there are moment when the tablet gets stuck for time and kind of bogs down, sometimes with very little or no apps running. The full size USB port on the top is a nice feature but I thought I would be using it a lot more then I do. The battery life is good for the size of the power pack, giving me sometimes a full day of medium to heavy use. I am happy with this tablet but I find myself using my phone more then the tablet for games and "YouTubing" due to the slight lag I get sometimes. I feel like I can be very productive with this tablet but have yet to really test it as my "laptop replacement".
Conclusion: It's worth what I paid for!
Yea sweet tab.
I think the lag is a LG thing. My G4 was laggy until the recent update from Verizon. Now it screams.
The Tabs dont really get updates as often. So maybe the next update will fix the software. The 615 chip should not be seeing lag. I think they have some rogue background process or something because it randomly does it.
My screen has a very reddish tint to it and pretty bad screen bleed. I almost want to do a warranty swap just to find a better one but it works for what I use it for.
I have a root method up for the X8.3

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