Dasaita (HotAudio) has been released the new MTCD series of Headunits based on PX5 Platform:
OctaCore A53
2GB RAM
32GB ROM
Android 6.0.1 MM
DSP is integrated
More information and photos on:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...dasaita-hotaudio-android-6-0-1-ready-t3536790
Manufacturers are moving to this platform and this will be the new standard
Do you think Android board replacement will be an option? I don't own a HotAudio unit but a KD, but the core board design might be compatible right?
gunmoule said:
Do you think Android board replacement will be an option? I don't own a HotAudio unit but a KD, but the core board design might be compatible right?
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On the same thread it has been published the Core Splacement video between PX3 RK3188 board to the New PX5....
I think it is possible even you don't have a HotAudio unit.
I think you should keep your MCU from KD in order physical buttons as well any other stuff from canbus could be working
On universal Units ithe replacement could be performed wiothout any issue.
chinglitch said:
Can you provide a link to buy just the board?
I have a Joying MTCD RK3188, I would like to upgrade it.
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I am NOT any representative for HotAudio
So, i guess its my lucky day. This is my current Hot Audio Head Unit
Al Ferro said:
So, i guess its my lucky day. This is my current Hot Audio Head Unit
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I don`t know if update or not....
Improved things:
* More powerful and faster Chip
* 2GB RAM
* 32GB ROM
* DSP
MCU is still the same...and it will limit the android part (BT for example) in the same way as RK3188 or INtel Sofia
I think it worths for RK3188 1GB Ram owners, but I own an Intel Sofia with 2GB Ram
Speed: The intel Sofia is fast enough for me... it can handle the apps without noticing lags (where RK3188 get frozen)
DSP: it could be a good addition to improve the sound (that i consider some kind of flat sound now)
32GB ROm: I own 16GB, but with several USB ports...so, for the apps i installed (it is a car device not a phone) is enough for me.
I could perform the update for testing purposes ....
chinglitch said:
Comparing to MTCD RK3188, it is a clear upgrade.
Comparing to MTCD Intel, not so sure.
Comparing to Joying Intel, might be a downgrade (bluetooth).
I.e., chip is faster than RK3188, clearly.
But compared to Intel? Thing is, synthetic benchmarks are useless when crossing to different CPU architecture. After all, even RK3188 has higher Antutu scores than the Intel chip, yet the Intel is *clearly* much more powerful.
A more direct comparison is Nexus 5x, antutu benchmark score about 85000 (more than twice). Nexus 5x is a HEX core 4xA53+2xA57. I don't think that A57 is *that* much stronger than A53 to bring the score up that much higher. So PX5 is still a VERY weak chip. I think that the Intel is a stronger CPU.
And advertising that it has a DSP is silly. DSP is another way to say "sound card". If it didn't have one, then no sound would come out.
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Why is a downgrade from Joying?
Joying has the same limitations by MCU than MTCDs
On Intel Sofia at least i can connect to Standard ODB2 by just changing the PIC code for pairing on the Bluetooth MTCD app
Bluetooth on MTCD works...but on both units (Joying and INtel) the Calling can't be done by voice commands (google now)....and sometimes if trying i lose my sound due to the MCU has blocked the sound as it was making call (but doing nothing)
The only thing missing with these head units is a decent screen, 10inches with @ least 1080P res. Its jarring looking at my phone then looking at the 1024X600 res. on the head unit.
Hoping they will sell the Board separately.
Anybody successfully replaced the old core board with a PX5 board? Where to buy?
I'm very interested, because my unit is very laggy and slow :-/
DieAbrissbirne said:
Anybody successfully replaced the old core board with a PX5 board? Where to buy?
I'm very interested, because my unit is very laggy and slow :-/
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For now it seems no one is selling the core board only.
Waiting for any news here for the board.
Hopefully we'll have some news in a few months.
why does the resolution look horrible in the pics op?
irinae said:
Waiting for any news here for the board.
Hopefully we'll have some news in a few months.
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I guess you'll hear a lot more after the Chinese New Year holiday winds up and people go back to work.
Is there any update on this? Also I have been looking around and only can find Android TV boxes with this. Now please excuse my stupidity but is it possible to use the board from one of these?
I messeged hotaudio and they told me tha PX5 core board is 150$ but I sont know if its my unit compatible because I have MTCB not MTCD...
i don't think it would be compatible with MTCB.
I am not even sure if it would be 100% compatible with MTCD.. as the power on ---sleep---resume is a bit different than the PX3 HUs...
e.g the new units as far as i know don't turn off.. (someone correct me if my logic is wrong)
Nomader0 said:
i don't think it would be compatible with MTCB.
I am not even sure if it would be 100% compatible with MTCD.. as the power on ---sleep---resume is a bit different than the PX3 HUs...
e.g the new units as far as i know don't turn off.. (someone correct me if my logic is wrong)
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Only can be upgraded from PX· MTCD units (not MTCB or MTCC)
The sleep functionality is written in the ROM and controlled by MCU, so no problem on upgrading from PX3 MTCD
the PX5 Board contains all the Android hardware (EMMC, CPU, GPU, Wireless & RAM). So once changesd you depends on the Rom installed on the new EMMC (which is 6.0 and it does not contain anythinig related to sleep counter)
ikerg said:
Only can be upgraded from PX· MTCD units (not MTCB or MTCC)
The sleep functionality is written in the ROM and controlled by MCU
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this is exactly what i mean.. if you install a PX5 board, then you will have incompatible sleep functionality between the board and the MCU..
you will have an old MCU sleep functionality and you will not be able to control it with the new ROM..
Everybody is waiting i guess for someone to try it
Hello.. I am not sure if i am in the right thread but i have a question.
My HU is MTCD HA V2.44 with RK3188 (RockChip PX3).
Can i update it to a RockChip PX5?
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Hi together,
does anybody now that HU:
http://xtrons.co.uk/pf75aa4a-7-andr...nction-obd2-for-audi-a4-s4-rs4-seat-exeo.html
I'm thinking to buy that one instead of a Joying because it has Android 5.1. Can anyone recommend it? Is this an MTCB one and will Malaysk's-ROM work with that one? Couldn't find any useful information about it so far.
Many thanks!
Seems to be an MTCD version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdKcgOxv39s
as you can see on time 0:28
Not speaking only about Android 5.1... but that HU's specs say:
64-Bit Operating System 64-Bit CPU Processor
so it should have a different hardware and software than the current MTCB (and maybe MTCD) HUs with Rockchip 3066/3188 processors which are 32 bit.
Thanks! So their advertising must be wrong. In the video they cleary say it is an rk3188
What would you say? Is this a standard MTCD as any Joying is currently a MTCB? I really like the design but I don't just want to buy anything thats badly supported later by custom roms.
Well, at least from the screenshot it looks like an MTCD head units, so it shouldn't be an MTCB.
BTW, new products advertised specs of these small Chinese manufacturers must always be taken with a bit of caution and before buying it's advisable to ask them for confirmation...
I'm very disappointed by the speed and usability of my Pumpkin AS0272B. For example, it takes about an hour to install a small handful of app updates that would take all of 1 minute on my Samsung phone on the same internet connection. I also get pauses and stuttering playing music off memory card with any other apps open. 3rd-party maps and Google Maps are unusably slow. I already have the latest firmware from Pumpkin and have reset factory defaults.
I don't think my specific unit have a fault. My suspicion is that they're all like this.
How much better is an Oreo PX5 4GB headunit likely to be?
My previous unit was also a Pumpkin (KGL) PX3, but a 5.1 MTCB unit. It was slow and laggy. Some functions like the browser were unusable. Now I have a Xtrons (GS) PX5 with 2 gb of RAM and original Android 6 updated to Android 8. There is a difference of night and day between PX3 and PX5. The fastest OS I've ever had on such an unit was Android 6. Nevertheless also Android 8 is really fast with 2 gb of RAM and on my HU it has no bugs at all. I think with the future updates it will be such fast as Android 6.
If you can give the PX3 back and buy a PX5 with 4 gb of RAM.
Oberbergler said:
If you can give the PX3 back and buy a PX5 with 4 gb of RAM.
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I doubt it but I might try because this thing is unusable.
Thanks for the reply.
What lead you to buy Xtrons? I want to buy from someone who gives good support and updates. I was thinking Dasaita but I've heard good things about Xtrons too.
Going from a PX3 2GB and 4 cores with Android 7 to a PX5 4GB 8 cores Android 8 and the difference is like night and day. The new PX5 is so much more responsive and snappy. I am running Malaysk ROM on it and it is just a dream. I am very glad I bought the upgraded unit!
bradsm87 said:
I'm very disappointed by the speed and usability of my Pumpkin AS0272B. For example, it takes about an hour to install a small handful of app updates that would take all of 1 minute on my Samsung phone on the same internet connection. I also get pauses and stuttering playing music off memory card with any other apps open. 3rd-party maps and Google Maps are unusably slow. I already have the latest firmware from Pumpkin and have reset factory defaults.
I don't think my specific unit have a fault. My suspicion is that they're all like this.
How much better is an Oreo PX5 4GB headunit likely to be?
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Try @Hal9k_'s Nougat custom ROM, its way faster than stock.
Hey everybody,
I have been unsing a intel sofia MTCD android radio for a while now and I have been rather satisfied with its performance but there some little problems.
I have a stutter when using bluetooth audio via A2DP and sometimes the system is rather laggy and needs its time to load.
Would you say that going from a quadcore sofia cpu with 2gb of RAM to a octacore PX5-CPU with 4gb would be a massive improvement or is it just not worth the money?
There is a MTCD Update I could flash and hope for improvement for the bluetooth but I am just not sure about it...
Thanks for your answers!
Hello everyone.
My 3 years old 7" Joying Sofia 2gb HU died, and I'm looking for a replacement.
The most important things for me:
- fast performance and stability, which means at least 2gb of memory, preferably 4gb.
- good ANDROID AUTO compatibility, either natively, or good support for the app "Android headunit reloaded" which I've been using all the time on my dead joying unit
- Fast wake up time after sleep, I really don't want to wait a minute for having a working unit once I turn on the car.
I was advised to try the units from DASAITA as they seem to be of higher quality than Joying.
The latest units are based on PX6 while the latest Joying ones are using AIrmont SC9853i CPUs
1) Is there much any difference in terms of performance between PX6 and Airmont architecture? They both have 4GB of RAM.
2) Does the DASAITA units have the quick wake up from sleep as the joying units?
3) Is the ZLINK solution provided in these units a good solution for having Android Auto? I've been using "Android Headunit Reloaded|" app and it has been really good.
5) Is the new built-in DSP available only in the latest Joying models?
Any advice will be highly appreciated!!
Thanks in advance
Anyone with experience with joying and dasaita?
Hello everyone, I am Dutch and new on this forum.
I'm in the happy possession of a Peugeot 508 from 2012.
Since the Here navigation leaves a lot to be desired and I would also have some other software in the car, I'm considering buying an Android Head Unit from AliExpress.
There's quite a few offers, so I have some questions. I hope that someone has experience with the systems or can give me advice.
Just some examples that I found: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4001205344015.html and https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005001582465605.html
They all claim to be 'plug and play' and units are available for various brands and types of car.
Are these systems substantially different from newer Android systems in current cars?
I have the idea that all brands offered are all equal internally and that only the interface differs. Is that right?
Can a new Android version be updated easily?
All are available with 4Gb OF RAM, 64Gb ROM, Hexa or Octa Core, PX6 CPU, DSP. Are there any things I need to look out for?
I have an iPhone so I would also like to buy a Carplay dongel. Does this work properly?
Are there any other brands that might fit in this car?
Thanks for the help.
Best regards,
Rob