Need help removing Xposed and unrooting S7 Active - Samsung Galaxy S7 Active Questions & Answers

I recently successfully rooted an S7 Active with the process outlined in this forum. I installed Xposed framework succesfully as well, but now I need to undo the process safely. From what I understand, SuperSu can be used to unroot, but how can I remove Xposed safely? I am a relative novice so detailed guidance is greatly appreciated, thanks!

You need to follow the procedure outlined in the root guide, minus the part where you flash the engineering boot (unlockg891aboot.tar).
So basically, just download the password protected PI2 firmware that NotSoMiniGun has kindly provided, extract it and use the modified Odin to flash all the individual parts within in their relevant spaces ( BL, AP, CP, CSC) + the PIT file.
This will take you back to stock PI2 and a wiped phone. Then just clean up any remnant files you have on your SD card etc.
Why are you going back to unrooted out of curiosity?

bandario said:
You need to follow the procedure outlined in the root guide, minus the part where you flash the engineering boot (unlockg891aboot.tar).
So basically, just download the password protected PI2 firmware that NotSoMiniGun has kindly provided, extract it and use the modified Odin to flash all the individual parts within in their relevant spaces ( BL, AP, CP, CSC) + the PIT file.
This will take you back to stock PI2 and a wiped phone. Then just clean up any remnant files you have on your SD card etc.
Why are you going back to unrooted out of curiosity?
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Thanks bandario, seems straightforward, I will try this in a few hours. I rooted to give myself a few additional capabilities and hastily installed Xposed framework as well, only to find out some things I needed the device for were disabled when Xposed is installed. Basically, it ended up creating more issues than it helped me with. I would rather just return the device to stock. This is somewhat unfamiliar territory for me though, so I did not want to try anything that would fail to remove Xposed and/or brick the phone. I will be back if I have any issues.

cma1515 said:
Thanks bandario, seems straightforward, I will try this in a few hours. I rooted to give myself a few additional capabilities and hastily installed Xposed framework as well, only to find out some things I needed the device for were disabled when Xposed is installed. Basically, it ended up creating more issues than it helped me with. I would rather just return the device to stock. This is somewhat unfamiliar territory for me though, so I did not want to try anything that would fail to remove Xposed and/or brick the phone. I will be back if I have any issues.
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Anything specific that wouldn't work with xposed apart from snapchat (which must be installed before you install xposed)?
There are workarounds for most lock-outs. My phone doesn't even say 'custom' on the boot screen.

bandario said:
Anything specific that wouldn't work with xposed apart from snapchat (which must be installed before you install xposed)?
There are workarounds for most lock-outs. My phone doesn't even say 'custom' on the boot screen.
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Yes, I figured there were workarounds for most of the issues, but I get in over my head trying to figure things out on my own.
My two main issues were Pokemon Go, which from what I understand cannot pass safetynet with Xposed installed, and my GearFit 2 watch also failed to work with rooted device even after reset. Not sure what the source of that issue is. About to attempt to restore.

cma1515 said:
Yes, I figured there were workarounds for most of the issues, but I get in over my head trying to figure things out on my own.
My two main issues were Pokemon Go, which from what I understand cannot pass safetynet with Xposed installed, and my GearFit 2 watch also failed to work with rooted device even after reset. Not sure what the source of that issue is. About to attempt to restore.
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What custom recovery works best on the S7 active? (Link appreciated!)

cma1515 said:
Yes, I figured there were workarounds for most of the issues, but I get in over my head trying to figure things out on my own.
My two main issues were Pokemon Go, which from what I understand cannot pass safetynet with Xposed installed, and my GearFit 2 watch also failed to work with rooted device even after reset. Not sure what the source of that issue is. About to attempt to restore.
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Firstly, I have a gearfit 2 and a massive amount of xposed modules and it works fine (apart from using a lot of phone battery but that happened before I rooted).
Second, there appears to be 2 solutions for playing pokemon go with xposed and root.
1) http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/09/11/guide-play-pokemon-go-0-37-rooted-android-magisk/
2) HIDE SU and SNORLAX -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69651636&postcount=314
I don't play pokemon so can't comment any further on this one except to say, people have got it working.
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What custom recovery works best on the S7 active? (Link appreciated!)
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None that I know of at this stage.

bandario said:
Firstly, I have a gearfit 2 and a massive amount of xposed modules and it works fine (apart from using a lot of phone battery but that happened before I rooted).
Second, there appears to be 2 solutions for playing pokemon go with xposed and root.
1) http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/09/11/guide-play-pokemon-go-0-37-rooted-android-magisk/
2) HIDE SU and SNORLAX -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69651636&postcount=314
I don't play pokemon so can't comment any further on this one except to say, people have got it working.
None that I know of at this stage.
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Thanks for the help! The GearFit issue is probably just the watch being difficult, I have had problems with it before... I actually found that first link right after we began this discussion but I do not follow it... It asks the user to unroot via supersu, but then "make root systemless" using either custom recovery (which S7 Active does not yet have) or flashing. I will attach directions below, do these steps make logical sense using an Active S7?
""1 Re-flash custom or restore your System or you can uninstall Xposed, modules & everything.
2 Remove root (obviously skip this step if your not rooted) – Simply go into the supersu app and remove from there. (How to unroot Android devices)
3. Now to make Root Systemless,
If you’re using TWRP, use the terminal in advanced settings and type the following: echo “SYSTEMLESS=true” > /data/.supersu –
OR You can use your favourite file explorer and create a file named .supersu at: /data/.supersu and simply write in the following line: SYSTEMLESS=true
4 Flash SuperSU 2.78, which will be flashed in Systemless mode as per the config file we created in the previous step.
5 Flash Systemless Xposed 86.2 (this version does not depend on Magisk, therefore Magisk does not need to be installed at all).
6 Flash SUhide (It hides Root from particular app rather then turning off root globally)"
So far I have successfully removed Xposed via their uninstaller (http://dl-xda.xposed.info/framework/uninstaller/) and have currently left the phone rooted.

Follow steps on this post. Simplest, Easiest and Safest way to UNROOT your S7 Active.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70810443&postcount=561
Cheers!

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[Q] Recent SuperSU Updates - Issues

Figured I would start here in my device thread before trying the SuperSU thread.
Anybody have issues with SuperSU since the last few updates ago?
SuperSU does not even open. Root-dependent apps do not open. Titanium sits there at the initial screen "asking for root rights" until I kill the app. AdAway does not open... just goes right to a black screen until I kill the app. AdAway seems to work though, as my web surfing does not have ads.
I've also tried manually going in and applying the latest update via (philz) recovery.
Would I be safe to roll back to an older version of SuperSU?
Mods... if you're going to gun the thread, please at least point me in the right direction as I did search, but did not find anything related to recent issues on the Note 2 for SuperSU.
TIA for help and suggestions.
Oh yeah its still sitting in the play store. I lost root the last couple updates ago. I had to re flash my rom and start over.
ceabbott2 said:
Oh yeah its still sitting in the play store. I lost root the last couple updates ago. I had to re flash my rom and start over.
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As part of my search, I did see Chainfire mention in his "fix" thread that some apps like wanam can cause issues. Of course, I have xsposed installed, so that could be the issue.
Do you (or did you) also have xsposed installed as well?
I have tried older versions of SU, uninstalling via philz then redownloading from Play - which now tells me the binaries are out of date and can't be done by SU, and I need to re-root.
Think I might try one of the other SuperUser apps "just to see how it works", or if it does.
lennykravitz2004 said:
As part of my search, I did see Chainfire mention in his "fix" thread that some apps like wanam can cause issues. Of course, I have xsposed installed, so that could be the issue.
Do you (or did you) also have xsposed installed as well?
I have tried older versions of SU, uninstalling via philz then redownloading from Play - which now tells me the binaries are out of date and can't be done by SU, and I need to re-root.
Think I might try one of the other SuperUser apps "just to see how it works", or if it does.
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For me, I just reflashed the ROM I was running at the time and that resolved it. Of course seeing that the update was " fixed" I attempted it and lost root again. I then did the same as before, wiped and relashed. I didn't do clean installs either time. Just wiped caches and reflashed. That sucks if you have to re-root. I mean, it's easy and all but it shouldn't have to be done.
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Before attempting any drastic measures (i.e., full wipe and reinstallation of the ROM), try this. This trick usually works for me.
Open your Application Manager, and locate your SuperSU application. Turn it off (i.e., click the "Turn Off" button). It may prompt you that updates are about to be uninstalled; that's ok. Download "BETA-SuperSU-v2.25.zip" and verify the MD5. Reboot into recovery and flash this file. Reboot and re-enable the SuperSU application from the Application Manager (it will be easy to find this time - scroll all the way over to the right, under "Turned Off"). Open SuperSU and it should let you reinstall the binaries.
Recently I've inexplicably lost root a number of times, and the above method has fixed it for me every time.
DJ_Barcode said:
Before attempting any drastic measures (i.e., full wipe and reinstallation of the ROM), try this. This trick usually works for me.
Open your Application Manager, and locate your SuperSU application. Turn it off (i.e., click the "Turn Off" button). It may prompt you that updates are about to be uninstalled; that's ok. Download "BETA-SuperSU-v2.25.zip" and verify the MD5. Reboot into recovery and flash this file. Reboot and re-enable the SuperSU application from the Application Manager (it will be easy to find this time - scroll all the way over to the right, under "Turned Off"). Open SuperSU and it should let you reinstall the binaries.
Recently I've inexplicably lost root a number of times, and the above method has fixed it for me every time.
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Thanks for the try. Did not work though.
Looks like I just need to re-flash the ROM.
My problem was odd. Before I discovered the aforementioned trick, I'd re-root with Chainfire or Kingo. I'd reboot, and my device would be rooted. But those two methods have an additional payload - they flash the stock recovery. So I'd ODIN the Philz Touch recovery back to the device, reboot, and root would be gone. Never figured out what was going on.
Yup. Issues with new version. Only last 2 or three updates.
They seemed to be perfectly fine with cm12 though.
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Thanks for all of the input.
After doing a full wipe, and then re-loading Classic Stock 4.4.2, life is good again! Back to running awesome for a few weeks now.
Having said that, I did want to follow-up and ask others what current version of SuperSU you are on. As of right now, I am still on v2.01 (which is what was packaged with the ROM) and have not updated yet. Only other versions of SuperSU I have zips downloaded for are: 2.25 from post above, 2.36, and 2.37.
Any suggestions or confirmations on which newer/more recent versions will not bork my root status? Or which versions to definitely stay away from trying to use?
Thanks, and I appreciate any help and suggestions!
lennykravitz2004 said:
Thanks for all of the input.
After doing a full wipe, and then re-loading Classic Stock 4.4.2, life is good again! Back to running awesome for a few weeks now.
Having said that, I did want to follow-up and ask others what current version of SuperSU you are on. As of right now, I am still on v2.01 (which is what was packaged with the ROM) and have not updated yet. Only other versions of SuperSU I have zips downloaded for are: 2.25 from post above, 2.36, and 2.37.
Any suggestions or confirmations on which newer/more recent versions will not bork my root status? Or which versions to definitely stay away from trying to use?
Thanks, and I appreciate any help and suggestions!
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The actual issue is not superuser or the updates. The issue is 4.4.2 and the original way we (ROM devs) had to implement superuser.
There are two routes to take to keep from losing root. The easiest for most users is to turn off auto updates and not to update superuser (app or binaries). The second is more difficult for the average user. Do a complete removal of superuser and install the latest.
I suggest the first way for everyone. It is simple and fool proof.
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jlmancuso said:
The actual issue is not superuser or the updates. The issue is 4.4.2 and the original way we (ROM devs) had to implement superuser.
There are two routes to take to keep from losing root. The easiest for most users is to turn off auto updates and not to update superuser (app or binaries). The second is more difficult for the average user. Do a complete removal of superuser and install the latest.
I suggest the first way for everyone. It is simple and fool proof.
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As always, thanks for your response. Your recommendation is what I've been doing, just wanted to follow-up on this and see if there was anything else I needed to consider or change as well.
My main concern was to make sure I was not going to run into any "big" issues (especially security) by staying on current version. Thanks for explaining where the issue really lies on this too. I'm obviously not a dev, however I do want to understand what is exactly going on and responses like yours always provide that type of info. :good: Thank you.
And, FWIW, using "fool proof" to describe a process only makes me more curious (and no, not in that way) about your suggestion. :laugh:
Now I HAVE to find out more about that option... (only after some of the best BBQ in all of the land - Sugarfire BBQ in STL )
jlmancuso said:
The actual issue is not superuser or the updates. The issue is 4.4.2 and the original way we (ROM devs) had to implement superuser.
There are two routes to take to keep from losing root. The easiest for most users is to turn off auto updates and not to update superuser (app or binaries). The second is more difficult for the average user. Do a complete removal of superuser and install the latest.
I suggest the first way for everyone. It is simple and fool proof.
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How do you disable auto update of binary on SuperSU? I keep seeing it in the notification bar, very annoying.

Stock Lollipoop rooted with SuperSU - but it keeps resetting everything I do

see #5 for problem
Hi guys,
so after quite some time with custom Roms I decided to go stock again as somehow I don't need root at all. Well, that's not true. I miss AdAway.
As there is no possibility to root the stock rom, is there ANY AdBlocker that works on Lollipop? AdBlock Plus doesn't (yet).
Why did you say there is no possibility to root the stock rom ?
I'm running Stock ROM, rooted and AdAway running fine.
ckpv5 said:
Why did you say there is no possibility to root the stock rom ?
I'm running Stock ROM, rooted and AdAway running fine.
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How do you root the stock rom? I couldn't find out how.
Can I root without losing my data?
fBx said:
How do you root the stock rom? I couldn't find out how.
Can I root without losing my data?
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Flash twrp recovery and root through the recovery. It'll ask you when you reboot the system if you want to root it
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Huh. Didn't know it was THAT straightforward and I've been flashing my phones for years.
Well. I flashed TWRP and SuperSU 2.46, succeeded. But Adaway and Adfree don't work correctly. They block the ads but only until you reboot, then it's reverted, kinda like with a tethered jailbreak on iPhones.
What am I doing wrong here? Also the block is not like on KitKat - there it was really blocked, really removed, here only the images of the ads are removed but you still see the space they were supposed to be.
I also used a system app removal tool that also didn't work although it shows success. It just removes the installed data like updates.
When I delete apps manually via ES Explorer, they just reappear at the next reboot.
Root Checker says root is fine but it isn't supposed to behave like that and undo my changes.
What's wrong? Do I need another kernel maybe? As I said I went back to stock completely and updatet through to L.
I believe I got whats causing the issue.
After deleting a system app and rebooting, I got a message saying that the phone was restored from an "unnormal behaviour". Does Lollipop bring some kind of system restore point that just automatically restores itself when "weird" things like host file alteration happens? If yes, how do I get rid of that?
This phone has always had system files protected since KitKat. You need a kernel mod to delete system apps.
Don't know why the ad blockers aren't working. Adaway is working fine for me on stock US Dev Edition rooted. You said you are using Adaway and AdFree? Are you actually using both at the same time? maybe they are interfering with each other?
No I meant it happens with both. Only use adaway now. They work but after a reboot the adblock is gone and I need to apply it again. In fact, AdAway says it's deactivated and AdFree says it's already up to date but ads show anyway and I need to install the fix again to get rid of them.
Can you maybe point me to a kernel mod? Would want to get rid of some bloatware.
Maybe I should try installing xposed and see if it's gone after a reboot.
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Can you maybe point me to a kernel mod? Would want to get rid of some bloatware.
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The thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But unfortunately, flar2 hasn't had the time to update for LP. A user posted the kernel module in Post #210, but a subsequent user said it doesn't work. Custom ROMs have write protection disabled, as does Dev Edition stock ROM.
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No I meant it happens with both. Only use adaway now. They work but after a reboot the adblock is gone and I need to apply it again. In fact, AdAway says it's deactivated and AdFree says it's already up to date but ads show anyway and I need to install the fix again to get rid of them.
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Odd, as mentioned, I've used AdAway for quite some time now, and don't have these issues.
Yes, very odd indeed. Well, if I don't get it sorted out somehow I might as well switch to Viper or some other close to stock custom Rom again, or make it Dev like you.
Things are getting worse, in 1 of 2 cases AdAway spits an error at me when trying to apply the fixes and the phone just reboots and undos everything. It's like some protection from rooting or changing anything although I am rooted. I don't understand it. I can't possibly be the only one having problems with root on Stock Lollipop
This is really annoying me. I think I'm better of just installing a custom rom and setting the phone up again, will cost me an hour but at least I'm done with the bugs.
Yup, decided to jump the gun, wipe and install ViperOne and now everything works as I wanted it to. AdAway stays active and working.
fBx said:
Yup, decided to jump the gun, wipe and install ViperOne and now everything works as I wanted it to. AdAway stays active and working.
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Interesting. I wonder if Adaway is dependent on the system write protection being disabled. I wouldn't normally suspect that, and only thinking of it since you mentioned the system write protection issue as well.
On the other hand, its the only difference I can think of between my phone and yours that would matter. I am on stock rooted Dev Edition, which apparently does not have the system write protection enabled by default.
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Interesting. I wonder if Adaway is dependent on the system write protection being disabled. I wouldn't normally suspect that, and only thinking of it since you mentioned the system write protection issue as well.
On the other hand, its the only difference I can think of between my phone and yours that would matter. I am on stock rooted Dev Edition, which apparently does not have the system write protection enabled by default.
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I also assume that's the reason. I've never been on a stock rom since I don't know when, but figured that actually I only wanted AdAway which would normally not require a custom rom per se... but as it didn't really work in the end (and also other root-requiring stuff), I went back to custom again. Well, it's not that it's that difficult to wipe the phone occasionally and set up a clean custom rom to get it back to perfect performance. Gonna go with it.

Dpi on lollipop

Any way to change the Dpi on lollipop without using app settings since xposed does not work for touchwhiz
ROADKING17 said:
Any way to change the Dpi on lollipop without using app settings since xposed does not work for touchwhiz
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Seqrch plays tore there is tons of apps
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ROADKING17 said:
Any way to change the Dpi on lollipop without using app settings since xposed does not work for touchwhiz
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If you are rooted use a file manager with an editor that has root capability (like File Manager HD) and go to /system. Make a backup copy of build.prop and then edit it to change the value of ro.sf.lcd_density from 480 to something lower, like 450, 400, or 360. I tried the latter and it worked. However the appearance of some native apps like phone or camera may become funky. IF you want everything to look normal you will have to install Xposed and do some stuff like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507369
Be careful not to go too low with this value. People usually don't go below 320 because the phone may not reboot afterwards. Below 360 things are not even visible, at least for me.
najoor said:
If you are rooted use a file manager with an editor that has root capability (like File Manager HD) and go to /system. Make a backup copy of build.prop and then edit it to change the value of ro.sf.lcd_density from 480 to something lower, like 450, 400, or 360. I tried the latter and it worked. However the appearance of some native apps like phone or camera may become funky. IF you want everything to look normal you will have to install Xposed and do some stuff like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507369
Be careful not to go too low with this value. People usually don't go below 320 because the phone may not reboot afterwards. Below 360 things are not even visible, at least for me.
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Ok Thanks
ROADKING17 said:
Any way to change the Dpi on lollipop without using app settings since xposed does not work for touchwhiz
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Before you attempt to use the guide that najoor suggested, be sure to backup your ENTIRE ROM and not just the build.prop file. Installing Xposed on many Note 3's and any TW devices for that matter, ends in disaster. Many are left in an infinite bootloop, causing you to need to wipe everything and reinstall your ROM.
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Before you attempt to use the guide that najoor suggested, be sure to backup your ENTIRE ROM and not just the build.prop file. Installing Xposed on many Note 3's and any TW devices for that matter, ends in disaster. Many are left in an infinite bootloop, causing you to need to wipe everything and reinstall your ROM.
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I concur. I personally don't like Xposed anymore. It was fun the first few times I used it and then I realized it tends to be chaotic in the way it changes the system. In general any tool/software that changes things in an irreversible way without the user's explicit knowledge is in my opinion poorly written. I remember that when I had an ATT note 3 on Android 4.3 I rooted it and installed Xposed and some of its modules and was very content with myself. But then when the time came to upgrade to 4.4.2 the phone refused to do so because it saw my system as "altered in an unauthorized way". I unrooted it to no avail. I uninstalled Xposed and all its modules, once before and once after unrooting to no avail. Finally I sat down and started looking at the system files and Xposed had changed so many things without my knowledge that tracing all of them and reversing them took me forever. I had the luxury of using Safestrap back then to do trial and error but since there is no such thing for lollipop, if you don't have a custom recovery and you mess up, you will need to flash the ROM from scratch and lose your data in the process.
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I concur. I personally don't like Xposed anymore. It was fun the first few times I used it and then I realized it tends to be chaotic in the way it changes the system. In general any tool/software that changes things in an irreversible way without the user's explicit knowledge is in my opinion poorly written. I remember that when I had an ATT note 3 on Android 4.3 I rooted it and installed Xposed and some of its modules and was very content with myself. But then when the time came to upgrade to 4.4.2 the phone refused to do so because it saw my system as "altered in an unauthorized way". I unrooted it to no avail. I uninstalled Xposed and all its modules, once before and once after unrooting to no avail. Finally I sat down and started looking at the system files and Xposed had changes so many things without my knowledge that tracing all of them and reversing them took me forever. I had the luxury of using Safestrap back then to do trial and error but since there is no such thing for lollipop, if you don't have a custom recovery and you mess up, you will need to flash the ROM from scratch and lose your data in the process.
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I've never used Xposed and I never will, but I also have the resources and the knowledge to just change the stuff in the framework and SystemUI myself.
If I'm helping anyone upgrade their system, the first thing I ask is if they've installed Xposed or running a ROM that has it pre-installed. If they say yes I recommend them just starting over from scratch with OEM firmware, which is easy to do on any brand phone. You have Odin for Samsung, RSD Lite for Motorola, and fastboot for HTC to achieve this.

Security update with root

So, I'm new to rooting and this is my first Nexus device.
I'm loving it and all the options but now I'm getting a notification to update.
I see all the forums about hooking it up to a computer and using commands to do it all and then rerooting.
I was looking for an easier way.
I bought a Nexus 5 to play with because I liked this one so much and when OTAs came up, it would let me download them and reboot into CWM recovery and ask if I want to flash the ZIP.
This one just boots into TWRP (No CWM for 5x) and does nothing.
I found the update as a zip here:
<https://gist.github.com/jduck/744a6c8a9042e9c792b7>
My question is: can I just download it and use TWRP to flash it or is the sequence of commands on a computer the only way to do it?
Thank you in advance for your help and I apologize for my ignorance.
Gotta start somewhere though, right?
Hi !
I personnaly use NRT from Wugfresh for my Nexus 5x and my Nexus 7 2013, both rooted.
In "model type", select Nexus 5x and your build.
In "Restore/upgrade/downgrade", select "device is on/normal", then click "Flash stock+ unroot".
Select the build you want to install, it can dl and extract it for you, and select "No Wipe Mode" in order to keep your data and apps. (don't try to put your ota file here)
Go through the steps, and in the end, hit "Root" to root again.
I know there are others methods to apply just the OTA with command lines, but I never did it cause I never took the time to learn. I should do it, maybe it's faster with command lines.
Anyway this works, even if it takes a little time, and it is kind of automatic. But I strongly recommend you try both method to find what suits you most. Or wait for someone else to reply so you'll have more points of view !
Have fun with your N5x !
I like the idea of that.
Does it reinstall the superuser app automatically?
If so, which one?
And does it redo custom recovery?
And which one for that?
Sorry for all the questions but I purchased SuperSU and I don't want it to automatically download a different one and have to go through the steps to change a superuser app.
erichjelm said:
I like the idea of that.
Does it reinstall the superuser app automatically?
If so, which one?
And does it redo custom recovery?
And which one for that?
Sorry for all the questions but I purchased SuperSU and I don't want it to automatically download a different one and have to go through the steps to change a superuser app.
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Use chainfires "flashfire" for this process
http://www.xda-developers.com/flashfire-updated-with-android-6-0-and-ota-support/
Darke5tShad0w said:
Use chainfires "flashfire" for this process
http://www.xda-developers.com/flashfire-updated-with-android-6-0-and-ota-support/
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It's not working.
I have Xposed installed.
I unmarked all modules, rebooted, and tried again but to no avail.
Other than Xposed, no mods to the kernel.
erichjelm said:
I have Xposed installed.
I unmarked all modules, rebooted, and tried again but to no avail.
Other than Xposed, no mods to the kernel.
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Are you using flashfire v0.28?
Xposed modifies the system so while you maybe able to get the ota it can prevent you from installing them even with flashfire.
Go to the flashfire thread and see if this is a problem with the app or because or xposed (most likely answer).
Otherwise find the ota threads and see if you can flash it through recovery (not the N version)
Yeah, it's that version of Flashfire.
I have the update zip but I'm afraid to just flash it.
I was hoping that I'd get some more help here.
Not that I don't appreciate your help.
Thank you, by the way.
erichjelm said:
Yeah, it's that version of Flashfire.
I have the update zip but I'm afraid to just flash it.
I was hoping that I'd get some more help here.
Not that I don't appreciate your help.
Thank you, by the way.
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Thats at the end of my ability to help you with this particular problem, I have only owned a Nexus for 2 months and they are completely diff to Samsung plus I run pure nexus rom, you may just have to use a computer.
And I really appreciate it.
I'll just use a computer and do it.
Don't want to risk trying to flash the zip and bricking but I'm still curious.
Just not curious enough.
Haha.
Got it.
In case anyone needs to know for themselves, I wanted to post it here.
http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-t...thout-losing-root-no-computer-needed-0168428/
I used that and it worked.
I didn't flash the Xposed zip and had to later on.
Worth it just to add it to the queue to save the time.
Everything else seems to be working fine thus far.
A few settings are changed (TinyCore was turned off and hidden apps in Smart Launcher 3 were unhidden) but that's nothing big.
erichjelm said:
Got it.
In case anyone needs to know for themselves, I wanted to post it here.
http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-t...thout-losing-root-no-computer-needed-0168428/
I used that and it worked.
I didn't flash the Xposed zip and had to later on.
Worth it just to add it to the queue to save the time.
Everything else seems to be working fine thus far.
A few settings are changed (TinyCore was turned off and hidden apps in Smart Launcher 3 were unhidden) but that's nothing big.
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That is the same manipulation I explained in post 2, but with Flashfire, without using a computer. And full automated, where with nrt you have to factory reset and root later. I'll try it next time ! And yeah, the version of SuperSu is always the latest, and if it is not, it will update via play store (I bought it as well ^^)
Greedybro said:
That is the same manipulation I explained in post 2, but with Flashfire, without using a computer. And full automated, where with nrt you have to factory reset and root later. I'll try it next time ! And yeah, the version of SuperSu is always the latest, and if it is not, it will update via play store (I bought it as well ^^)
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This one didn't unroot. Just uninstalled Xposed. Kept all my data and stuff. Apps stayed signed in even. I was afraid because I heard "factory reset" in yours. Or something to that nature. The only thing I'm having problems with now is Tapatalk told me to check my adblock settings and won't load anything. I'll have to look up what's wrong with it. Other than that, it's doing all right.
You are right and wrong, it unroots but reroots in the process. Same I did when I used nrt. And as i didn't wipe data, apps stayed sign in as Well.
But i tried flashfire on my nexus 7 and I it is way more useful and faster than nrt. I am adopting it !

Questions about running stock rooted ROM / XPosed (Gravity Box) / Substratum

Hi guys,
After months of hesitation, I finally ordered a Pixel 2 XL. Now after a few years of running custom ROMs, I'm thinking of running the stock Google ROM with tweaks. But I haven't done that in a while so I have some questions, after rooting and installing TWRP:
- is it safe to install the latest Xposed framework beta? (bootloop/crashes)
- does Gravity Box work fine (no crash/bootloop)?
- can I apply Substratum themes on rooted stock?
- which kernel would you choose between Flash and ElementalX? I've been using the latter for a long time but curious about Flash.
- how do you handle monthly OTAs? Can they be installed running all of the above?
Thank you! :good:
Ghisy said:
Hi guys,
After months of hesitation, I finally ordered a Pixel 2 XL. Now after a few years of running custom ROMs, I'm thinking of running the stock Google ROM with tweaks. But I haven't done that in a while so I have some questions, after rooting and installing TWRP:
- is it safe to install the latest Xposed framework beta? (bootloop/crashes)
- does Gravity Box work fine (no crash/bootloop)?
- can I apply Substratum themes on rooted stock?
- which kernel would you choose between Flash and ElementalX? I've been using the latter for a long time but curious about Flash.
- how do you handle monthly OTAs? Can they be installed running all of the above?
Thank you! :good:
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Like you, I have always run custom ROMs and this is my first time running stock with tweaks like you mentioned.
1- yes, as far as Xposed goes for me and my device, I've had 0 issues. If there is any lag, just choose the "optimize apps now" option in the Xposed installer.
2 - gravity box works flawlessly for me and gives so many features. I had to support the dev and bought the unlocker!
3 - you can use substratum, but since the March update, you have to reboot after building overlays to see them in the overlay manager.
4 - I've tried almost all kernels available for our device, and I don't know why, maybe it's a placebo, maybe not, but Flash has been the best for me. Virtually no slowdowns in terms of performance, and solid battery life as well.
5 - most people flash the factory images, editing the flash-all file, removing the "-w" to prevent data from being wiped. Me on the other hand, I do the most overkill option which is fastbooting the factory images to both slots, leaving the "-w" intact, and basically starting fresh every month it ends up being a few hour process but I don't mind because I have a bit of OCD and like having a clean slate to start from when new updates release.
Hope this helps!
rickysidhu_ said:
5 - most people flash the factory images, editing the flash-all file, removing the "-w" to prevent data from being wiped. Me on the other hand, I do the most overkill option which is fastbooting the factory images to both slots, leaving the "-w" intact, and basically starting fresh every month it ends up being a few hour process but I don't mind because I have a bit of OCD and like having a clean slate to start from when new updates release.
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Hi,
Thanks for the comprehensive reply, it's appreciated and it does help!
I'm not sure about your last answer about OTAs though. So we have to flash the whole factory image every month? Isn't it possible to sideload the OTA? And what about Magisk and Xposed, do they have to be flashed again every time? I guess Substratum themes have to be compiled again as well? I guess I've been so used to custom ROM and dirty flashing that I got somewhat lazy
Does the unlocker for Gravity Box add more options? Or is it just a way to donate money to the dev?
Thanks again.
Ghisy said:
Hi,
Thanks for the comprehensive reply, it's appreciated and it does help!
I'm not sure about your last answer about OTAs though. So we have to flash the whole factory image every month? Isn't it possible to sideload the OTA? And what about Magisk and Xposed, do they have to be flashed again every time? I guess Substratum themes have to be compiled again as well? I guess I've been so used to custom ROM and dirty flashing that I got somewhat lazy
Does the unlocker for Gravity Box add more options? Or is it just a way to donate money to the dev?
Thanks again.
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Unlocker is to support dev as well as it unlocks the ultimate notification controls which has a trial period
Ota are fine but we all prefer to flash the whole image because it is recommended and hardly comes up with errors
If you install magisk module for xposed then you would only need to re install magisk zip and your previous modules would be still installed
For substratum you need to disable overlays before updating and just re enable them after updating to latest update
Cheers ?
Sent from my Google Pixel 2 XL using XDA Labs
rickysidhu_ said:
Like you, I have always run custom ROMs and this is my first time running stock with tweaks like you mentioned.
1- yes, as far as Xposed goes for me and my device, I've had 0 issues. If there is any lag, just choose the "optimize apps now" option in the Xposed installer.
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Hey,
I can't seem to be able to boot after flashing the xposed zip. My device shows a corrupted system error and boots back to the bootloader.
Is there anything I'm missing here?
Thanks!
Ghisy said:
Hey,
I can't seem to be able to boot after flashing the xposed zip. My device shows a corrupted system error and boots back to the bootloader.
Is there anything I'm missing here?
Thanks!
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Which version of Xposed did you flash? And which version of the Xposed installer did you install?
rickysidhu_ said:
Like you, I have always run custom ROMs and this is my first time running stock with tweaks like you mentioned.
1- yes, as far as Xposed goes for me and my device, I've had 0 issues. If there is any lag, just choose the "optimize apps now" option in the Xposed installer.
2 - gravity box works flawlessly for me and gives so many features. I had to support the dev and bought the unlocker!
3 - you can use substratum, but since the March update, you have to reboot after building overlays to see them in the overlay manager.
4 - I've tried almost all kernels available for our device, and I don't know why, maybe it's a placebo, maybe not, but Flash has been the best for me. Virtually no slowdowns in terms of performance, and solid battery life as well.
5 - most people flash the factory images, editing the flash-all file, removing the "-w" to prevent data from being wiped. Me on the other hand, I do the most overkill option which is fastbooting the factory images to both slots, leaving the "-w" intact, and basically starting fresh every month it ends up being a few hour process but I don't mind because I have a bit of OCD and like having a clean slate to start from when new updates release.
Hope this helps!
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Ditto.
rickysidhu_ said:
Which version of Xposed did you flash? And which version of the Xposed installer did you install?
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I flashed xposed-v90-sdk27-arm64-beta3.zip. But I ended up installing XPosed through Magisk and it actuallly worked.
Are we not supposed to flash the .zip? It's what broke everything. I managed to flash the factory image and got my phone back to normal.
Ghisy said:
I flashed xposed-v90-sdk27-arm64-beta3.zip. But I ended up installing XPosed through Magisk and it actuallly worked.
Are we not supposed to flash the .zip? It's what broke everything. I managed to flash the factory image and got my phone back to normal.
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Glad you got it working.
I downloaded the Xposed APK in the Magisk thread and installed Xposed within the app; after reboot everything seems to work normally for me.
The way you did it is also fine though:good:

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